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([2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s83sm14256704ywg.21.2015.12.05.18.15.38 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 05 Dec 2015 18:15:38 -0800 (PST) From: John Aten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 20:15:31 -0600 Message-Id: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 02:15:41 -0000 Hello all, I am completely new to FreeBSD. I recently downloaded the FreeBSD = 10.2-RELEASE virtual machine image for Virtual Box. I am running Virtual = Box 4.3.30 on Mac OSX 10.6.8. (There are newer versions of Virtual Box, = which require a newer version of OSX than I am running, thus I haven't = been able to upgrade) Everything seemed to go well, until I tried to get = a window manager working. I installed the Enlightenment desktop in my = regular user account, but when it starts the mouse and keyboard do not = work. The same happens in whatever basic window manager comes up in the = root account. The X log says that since 'hotplugging' is on, these devices will be = disabled: [ 429.942] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" [ 429.943] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', = 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. [ 429.943] (WW) Disabling Mouse0 [ 432.737] (II) config/devd: adding input device (null) = (/dev/sysmouse) [ 432.737] (II) LoadModule: "mouse" [ 432.738] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so [ 432.742] (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" [ 432.742] (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" [ 432.742] (II) Unloading mouse [ 432.742] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement = mismatch, 0) [ 432.743] (EE) No input driver matching `mouse' [ 432.777] (II) config/devd: adding input device Mouse (/dev/psm0) [ 432.777] (II) LoadModule: "mouse" [ 432.778] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so [ 432.779] (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" [ 432.779] (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" [ 432.779] (II) Unloading mouse [ 432.779] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement = mismatch, 0) [ 432.779] (EE) No input driver matching `mouse' [ 429.942] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" [ 429.943] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 I have found several articles and forum threads that deal with this, and = similar issues, but none of the fixes seem to work, and many involve = other issues that I am not having.=20 I installed the virtualbox guest additions from ports, and from looking = at various sources around the internet, I placed the following in = rc.conf: ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" vboxguest_enable=3D"YES" vboxservice_enable=3D"YES" mouse_enable=3D"YES" hald_enable=3D"YES" dbus_enable=3D"YES" It appears I do not have hald installed; when I run `service hald = start`, I get an error that says hald does not exist. I read somewhere = that hald is deprecated, anyway, so I'm not sure that getting it running = is the answer. Before I read that, though, I did add the suggested = /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy called 90-vboxguest.fdi file recommended = from here: = http://technologytales.com/2014/03/02/installing-freebsd-in-a-virtualbox-v= irtual-machine/ .=20 I don't know if maybe I have a problem with the guest additions install; = I don't see how this would produce the problem, but I do get the = following warnings in /var/log/messages: Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI = device Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not = available or version mismatch Dec 4 22:31:07 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI = device Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not = available or version mismatch Dec 5 06:49:31 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI = device Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not = available or version mismatch Dec 5 07:27:16 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI = device Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not = available or version mismatch Dec 5 07:33:33 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI = device Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not = available or version mismatch Dec 5 18:04:55 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice After installing Enlightenment, I ran X -configure, and also added some = lines to xorg.conf in accordance with suggestions from the internet. My = current xorg.conf (I added both "AutoAddDevices" lines, and the entire = ServerFlags section): Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "glx" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "vboxmouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz", ### : "%" ### [arg]: arg optional Identifier "Card0" Driver "vboxvideo" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection I am pretty sure that this is all that I have altered in the course of = working on this problem, but it is easy to lose track. It seems that I = have to somehow turn 'hotplugging' off, but I have not been able to find = out how to successfully do this, and I have no idea what to do next. I = would very much appreciate any insight on this problem.=20= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 05:18:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76310A41572 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 05:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44781175E for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 05:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tB65IkC4050273 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 5 Dec 2015 22:18:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tB65IkbK050270; Sat, 5 Dec 2015 22:18:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 22:18:46 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: John Aten cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM In-Reply-To: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 05 Dec 2015 22:18:46 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 05:18:55 -0000 On Sat, 5 Dec 2015, John Aten wrote: > After installing Enlightenment, I ran X -configure, Why? The very first thing to try is letting X detect hardware and autoconfig. That means running it without any xorg.conf at all. If that is not enough, entries for only the video driver or mouse are all that is needed. The VM only needs emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. Other VirtualBox stuff is for being a VirtualBox host and not needed in a guest. > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "vboxmouse" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "vboxvideo" > EndSection So again, rename or delete any existing xorg.conf. Then run X. At most, the two entries above being the entire contents of that file should work. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 06:14:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE64A3B444 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 06:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin@restecp.com) Received: from max.restecp.com (max.restecp.com [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d13:e00::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD12712A1 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 06:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin@restecp.com) Received: from max.restecp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by max.restecp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425772C909E; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 06:14:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=restecp.com; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=dkim; bh= 3owLsFKs2ppA+A/6/TEPI9Y9JqeEpC6usoHm45CnhQ0=; b=wTubn+zknHvDLQr4 xmUSW44hq6p23ajpQcL4RRppJLGjej2iyhYsKQc10liNXf1qEOvf21rk9OUJGhzC uI/71jdEYnnPE5d1A7buHIXwcDddabeV/uxFMnhsGOgQ0tlltKqX5yHpyuIh1sxB Yj/iicHy54pC0bXqZP6V2bqJb3q+7AM9YhUnYwu2us1JZsb4s56qgDs1V87uLbg+ 5WTfRMu8nCxRAAaWXdQyYGuAEs4QNOKKngASonUsP5U2xn0cqtV/f9k0SRiNSWRp FBEAjJBXZIqoXCt/NhlKBoeRKj2/X9TqMxspHnAjW8NIx2Tj8j857N4ZMqVP0BrG GUIHhg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=restecp.com; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=dkim; b=gfk1TI ogNbQIy09Hn0EUdoWvYLwo5JBq1TjBGMVJhjZCrQ3e55tsoH5EchZlZnOoYRkAuc i7dDiQY17waEoRtjXfSzoM3EGnglXtGrpt5cUfTjmCNEKjC+MFelv4cNS3NpQ34v 9+ZtSrLbBk6AY2InRHvXdKWAax2TBu4CuPrqCaaEBX/wx3vtJBl2e+lpaWol5K6l Nj3bxrNPn8NH0hNZoIvPfEnpcXOxQxxm/FCLqQAg5SwKQRablvyoW2LhoXzulKmb GQWOtav7pNPz3AN3WG/auRwhN9zQsekX76Se0/dUMH1fT8/eYA1cbPKAM5KT9ukG hmLfFQn8fRu6mztA== Received: from [172.30.42.22] (c58-107-18-62.fitzg4.qld.optusnet.com.au [58.107.18.62]) by max.restecp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05BD92C908E; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 06:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5663D233.3030300@restecp.com> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:14:11 +1000 From: Colin House User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Aten , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM References: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 06:14:41 -0000 On 6/12/2015 12:15 PM, John Aten wrote: > Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch > Dec 5 07:33:33 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice I had the same problem while rebuilding a few test machines today. In my case I'd installed 10.2-RELEASE but then grabbed the 10-STABLE source to build emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions via svn. From there a buildworld & buildkernel (and install, obviously) to bring the system up to 10-STABLE did the trick. -Col From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 17:55:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9DA9A0B0C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:55:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CD971B12 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:55:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a5dWb-0008KI-Vp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 18:55:09 +0100 Received: from 203.184.10.44 ([203.184.10.44]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 18:55:05 +0100 Received: from erwin.pacua by 203.184.10.44 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 18:55:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Erwin Pacua Subject: Re: Doesn't switch back to text mode Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:51:57 +1300 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <20151130220933.GA17228@becker.bs.l> Reply-To: erwin.pacua@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.184.10.44 User-Agent: KNode/4.14.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 17:55:30 -0000 Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, > > on my new notebook I am doing a dual boot installation with > FreeBSD and Linux. I set up Grub2. > > By default, Grub2 starts in graphical mode. But when my > FreeBSD once is in graphical mode, it refuses to switch back > to text mode. Thus, when I should see the startup menu, the > boot messages, and finally the console command line, the > screen stays black with some colored spots on the upper > border, and I am not able to even install X and a login > manager. I still can ssh into the running system and shut it > down. > > As far as I remember, this problem first occured on my old > notebook when I upgraded to either FreeBSD 9 or 10. I was no > longer able to enter the console when once running X (by > Ctrl-Alt-F1). That did not hurt as the Grub I had there used > to stay in text mode and X started properly. > > I solved the problem so far by leaving Grub2 in text mode. > Do I have to swallow this restriction or is there a trick I > am not aware of? > > Thanks in advance. > > Bertram > Hi Bertram, FreeBSD probably a) sets to starts a display manager (KDE, GDM, slim) via rc.conf. X seems not correctly setup yet; b) no xf86- input-{mouse,keyboard,evdev} installed. What you can do is: - boot to single mode - check if there is any xf86-input-* drivers installed - comment out any display manager on rc.conf. - enable ssh, then hook-up a second machine - reboot - reboot to multi-user From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 17:57:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B029F9A0C33 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F5CE1CE1 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id tB6HqFqv039826 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 6 Dec 2015 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id tB6HqF57039825; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00299; Sat, 5 Dec 15 21:00:07 PST Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 21:00:06 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: vsasjason@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: resizing a memstick image, on FreeBSD 8 Message-Id: <5663c0d6.8giker3InrIlK8n+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <566299bf.2z11XFWfUMRFyXGs%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 17:57:10 -0000 Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2015-12-05 10:01 GMT+02:00 Perry Hutchison : > > Having downloaded the 10.2 memstick image, I see that it is > > configured as a 657MB GPT: ... > > After I write this onto a 4GB flash drive, how would I go about > > resizing the GPT and/or protective MBR to reflect the actual size > > of the drive ... > > RTFM: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/disks-growing.html Is it possible to accomplish that on the FreeBSD 8 system that I'm using to set things up for the FreeBSD 10.2 install? While it is the FreeBSD 8 kernel that suggests "recovery": GEOM: da2: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. GEOM: da2: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. the FreeBSD 8 gpart apparently does not understand "recover": # gpart recover da2 gpart: Unknown command: recover. usage: gpart add [-b start] [-s size] -t type [-i index] [-l label] [-f flags] geom gpart bootcode [-b bootcode] [-p partcode] [-i index] [-f flags] geom gpart commit geom gpart create -s scheme [-n entries] [-f flags] provider gpart delete -i index [-f flags] geom gpart destroy [-f flags] geom gpart modify -i index [-l label] [-t type] [-f flags] geom gpart set -a attrib -i index [-f flags] geom gpart show [-lr] [geom ...] gpart undo geom gpart unset -a attrib -i index [-f flags] geom gpart help gpart list [name ...] gpart status [-s] [name ...] gpart load [-v] gpart unload [-v] I didn't find any mention of recovering from a missing or corrupted secondary GPT in either the FreeBSD 8 Handbook or the FreeBSD 8 gpart(8) manpage. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 18:02:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A5F9A0E71 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 18:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6517B10F5 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 18:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so123604881wmw.0 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 10:02:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=oxLM5I2+RYJXyVPKPjVdfD0D9xDn/XddcqgJ/3KdZr4=; b=jU7MPaP/c56Ixn5nUZepG6AuEdAUdck6PZQPFSnqBrcuIm73HB1kowfB02B0wwS75G IC274sHDIZDd/KSpVsNMxb8n5gmdnccz1LXa0Z2Tkcrrj5gy3CPaYjgIJNZ+pe157YWO nWLNiaM1mqlSibo9StOHmpr3rVd1t9tWaPoIxZx/Brbu37fbyEjYHxkS0RwEyXZsYrn+ DawQXicQpUgcH0rni83iGoBJN50MF/2kDUdXIRDQU9puiZ34AUmqjtA6qO7IexSAr13s 82FDLEz0so71toMusr6QBDPs5HxTXM5QM+W9xsX9jWwJk2n8D4I975MgzCDd2kFLEJz2 S50Q== X-Received: by 10.194.2.33 with SMTP id 1mr32922662wjr.150.1449424952064; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 10:02:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5663c0d6.8giker3InrIlK8n+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <566299bf.2z11XFWfUMRFyXGs%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <5663c0d6.8giker3InrIlK8n+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:02:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: resizing a memstick image, on FreeBSD 8 To: Perry Hutchison Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 18:02:34 -0000 2015-12-06 7:00 GMT+02:00 Perry Hutchison : > Is it possible to accomplish that on the FreeBSD 8 system that I'm > using to set things up for the FreeBSD 10.2 install? While it is > the FreeBSD 8 kernel that suggests "recovery": > GEOM: da2: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. > GEOM: da2: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. > > the FreeBSD 8 gpart apparently does not understand "recover": > # gpart recover da2 > gpart: Unknown command: recover. > usage: gpart add [-b start] [-s size] -t type [-i index] [-l label] [-f flags] geom > gpart bootcode [-b bootcode] [-p partcode] [-i index] [-f flags] geom > gpart commit geom > gpart create -s scheme [-n entries] [-f flags] provider > gpart delete -i index [-f flags] geom > gpart destroy [-f flags] geom > gpart modify -i index [-l label] [-t type] [-f flags] geom > gpart set -a attrib -i index [-f flags] geom > gpart show [-lr] [geom ...] > gpart undo geom > gpart unset -a attrib -i index [-f flags] geom > gpart help > gpart list [name ...] > gpart status [-s] [name ...] > gpart load [-v] > gpart unload [-v] > > I didn't find any mention of recovering from a missing or corrupted > secondary GPT in either the FreeBSD 8 Handbook or the FreeBSD 8 > gpart(8) manpage. You can recover GPT after updating to 10. Even if one of the GPT copies corrupted, disk is fully functional. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 19:42:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8600D7394 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AA51A31 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D9ED4290037E for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:42:21 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449430944; bh=wxGwxT8AA4fI9g3ZkaRGDmcheJQaJQ2Wdot/TqVgWfM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=bhI6oWW9fgDq/SLxZ5W8nKle8wy8O/M3DyPq1r0YYSxJp6/7W3jsPE/k6NjUtA+Xx sGkTQRpkpPkJoKiSLqBFhTVf6S9nLUD2XUtko6A0h2MU+u02AiYLyhkpoZhyWkudPA Yr/w5x8I4kAdWDtXW3KGvHvDXfRdnTmSrtMH1+mg= Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:44:01 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OSS in jail Message-ID: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:42:34 -0000 Hi, I would like one of my jails to have the ability to play back sound, but not to record it. As I understand, sound is played back by writing to /dev/dsp and recorded by reading from it. Hence, placing the /dev/dsp device (and /dev/dsp[0-9]* devices) in the jail via devfs.rules is not a solution since the jail superuser can override permissions on these devices and even read from them when they lack read permission. Is there a way to give a device to a jail in read-only mode? If not, is it possible to create a virtual OSS stack and give that to the jail? How would you solve this problem? Also, is it possible to give the jail a mixer device that can only read mixer settings but not alter them? Thanks, Luís From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 19:45:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7417437 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EE8C1B46 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so125443380wmw.0 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 11:45:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x5x+dzB61pKdJpIb043IdOvQ1qv7K5xkyTyHxyEgt60=; b=NMutBz9AXTlEtjCwzVun+wJm7mtEs0w2W29GhBm4n6N838EjlmYoSTDVF19Yi4GvTy 1sHYPUMh16Uo86vMNEz2Q7eCg70Rd4q9rBO2M1WtkXpWVkNYCyWOiieVz6Tfc3+jc8xm 7LJEov5jbBz4SlfVE10AKxTRF9lwRgY2+/orsHdgikgSJL323RDRWxYccHh3cQ5Ioi8Q fMOPYw1dEC1CW933MCXd0JUFs7JFH9TaHhk6gf7jQZXBuLGLCvw768oW1pwWqA/4cUym rjFj2FU2AgoDgL3t1BgpLA5SkAPAN8OHcuD6+Pr2BsfG1qWtYxgNozaiicZYJbzEM1LU u0zA== X-Received: by 10.194.236.228 with SMTP id ux4mr29743594wjc.56.1449431131750; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 11:45:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 11:45:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:45:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OSS in jail To: =?UTF-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_Fernando_Schultz_Xavier_da_Silveira?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:45:33 -0000 2015-12-06 21:44 GMT+02:00 Lu=C3=ADs Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira : > Hi, > > I would like one of my jails to have the ability to play back sound, > but not to record it. As I understand, sound is played back by writing > to /dev/dsp and recorded by reading from it. Hence, placing the /dev/dsp > device (and /dev/dsp[0-9]* devices) in the jail via devfs.rules is not > a solution since the jail superuser can override permissions on these > devices and even read from them when they lack read permission. > > Is there a way to give a device to a jail in read-only mode? How do you want to write sound output to read-only device? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 19:48:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7627374E6 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344431C3F for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0A8D290037E for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:48:18 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449431302; bh=6G3GYzf+5LI9NnTt5C1fWMYjJV++6YqPudfuZJkFu3k=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=SpU18IP5P1WfxZU2a6tKsiTnok6iLQ0Bk1VrNF52A79/7vFciaPVl22NJn5cA+WO9 1G98xVaKcEYdMu29giUkqLm39OJSr517Jwr6/ecGtFoj2h8DS4yD/qR4VQZZ94FfTs t47RXreHPXMDuIV8MrUTyeUeXpKWoVuGKL5JGm54= Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:49:58 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS in jail Message-ID: <20151206194958.GB4044@hpmini> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:48:23 -0000 Sorry, I meant write-only mode. On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:45:12PM +0200, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2015-12-06 21:44 GMT+02:00 Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira > : > > Hi, > > > > I would like one of my jails to have the ability to play back sound, > > but not to record it. As I understand, sound is played back by writing > > to /dev/dsp and recorded by reading from it. Hence, placing the /dev/dsp > > device (and /dev/dsp[0-9]* devices) in the jail via devfs.rules is not > > a solution since the jail superuser can override permissions on these > > devices and even read from them when they lack read permission. > > > > Is there a way to give a device to a jail in read-only mode? > How do you want to write sound output to read-only device? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 19:52:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED87476D6 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FC131EB1 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so117320043wmw.1 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 11:52:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ux8+3oywcDO7adF92W5lL8mks9qLfagV30ZpxJ1oLHM=; b=q6efg3WHxQWAVvE+l7zRj+AQNZTJqGBH/dImNZo7Vn3GZ5G1ySPpaU+tI+REPtJdUd cRr/lJpAqarYM861u03BiS0ttqupDm256jwtXaloVuf5c6udEB2bgqsH6sNcF4Hu4lR4 2xz2jtMJtkwuRSO9Ioq4pv5c+wq4QUQKK91eG7RE6UNI9SBj8igKBLwhXXg1CTAHjyco M/+YyBmFWR5m2OgETAG32J1AhLDQVjxngEbVLyFItW1iGkMvauw/Zz76CT/Wug0kUBAi HIPU9+bmhAbvee/eipdx4evKr6qaFKhQbkQG1OZWCi940M3qerClkzDce/HipLCK8X49 dpOQ== X-Received: by 10.194.2.33 with SMTP id 1mr33330975wjr.150.1449431527675; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 11:52:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 11:51:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151206194958.GB4044@hpmini> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> <20151206194958.GB4044@hpmini> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:51:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OSS in jail To: =?UTF-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_Fernando_Schultz_Xavier_da_Silveira?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:52:10 -0000 2015-12-06 21:49 GMT+02:00 Lu=C3=ADs Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira : > Sorry, I meant write-only mode. If a user has write access, how do you want to prevent him to set permissio= ns? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 19:55:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FFA77C2 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A086C102A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 40D60290037F; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:55:29 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449431732; bh=NoUBP9NG0qzs3yw9U+AdoYG+DJQx9jECViszPHlk7Ig=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=jsS5RDWJdjXWy4bk/hxSL8KwRoKBdcuSpnD3f4Xw+fqeBAk1NAfbgQJFuDhvR9MNa pvYQhp2tqre07gXliuPDc9bR+It9sQXlGU6OcwNCN3tq8v9uswp67ogV7CqrugXytw 5lJTf54o4oL5ZEr32v3qKjwDWNJY4SzVGWtMCJdQ= Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:57:09 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS in jail Message-ID: <20151206195709.GA4100@hpmini> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> <20151206194851.GA4044@hpmini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:55:34 -0000 > Pleas, reply to list instead of users. Sorry. > If a user has write access, how do you want to prevent him to set permissions? This is the precise problem. I need either a stronger form of access control than unix permissions or two separate devices for playback and recording. Or maybe a separate OSS stack, in the spirit of VIMAGE. These options seem unrealistic, but the use case does not seem unreasonable, which is why I pose the question. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 20:19:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647F07BE8 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from cargobay.net (cargobay.net [198.178.123.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4819E19A2 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (97-97-253-103.res.bhn.net [97.97.253.103]) by cargobay.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3127B622; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: OSS in jail From: Jake X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13B143) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 15:09:44 -0500 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_Fernando_Schultz_Xavier_da_Silveira?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4A96B34F-EC69-4036-8D49-73C9B1E662F1@ccsys.com> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> <20151206194958.GB4044@hpmini> To: Anton Sayetsky X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 20:19:32 -0000 > On Dec 6, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: >=20 > 2015-12-06 21:49 GMT+02:00 Lu=C3=ADs Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira > : >> Sorry, I meant write-only mode. > If a user has write access, how do you want to prevent him to set permissi= ons? I think that's what he's asking us, the general community. Maybe not for a s= olution as simple as the standard device nodes and permissions, since he als= o described his use case as the actual goal. Without actually forming a spec= ific plan for u in detail, a setup involving network send/receive and on a s= olution such as what Jack2 (and others) provide comes to mind. That may work= for you Fernando or it may not be low-level enough to fit all your desires.= Perhaps a simpler solution using the append-only file flag would suffice an= d disallowing the jail to change flags is workable. See allow.chflags in man= 8 jail and/or man 5 jail.conf. I believe there's a global setting and a per= jail setting. I'm interested in hearing about what solutions you/we can come up with.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 20:19:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628EE7BFF for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C8EE19AC for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.109] (cm-84.210.87.28.getinternet.no [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED5127FA; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: OSS in jail From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13B143) In-Reply-To: <20151206195709.GA4100@hpmini> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:19:24 +0100 Cc: Anton Sayetsky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <87C55BB9-84B2-43B0-BD7D-2E045753C83C@elde.net> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> <20151206194851.GA4044@hpmini> <20151206195709.GA4100@hpmini> To: =?utf-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_Fernando_Schultz_Xavier_da_Silveira?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 20:19:36 -0000 > On 06 Dec 2015, at 20:57, Lu=C3=ADs Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: >=20 > This is the precise problem. > I need either a stronger form of access control than unix permissions > or two separate devices for playback and recording. > Or maybe a separate OSS stack, in the spirit of VIMAGE. > These options seem unrealistic, but the use case does not seem > unreasonable, which is why I pose the question. Although I haven't tested it for devices, it's likely you can solve this by u= sing MAC, and the "file system firewall"; mac_bsdextended Effectively you can define "firewall rules" for the file system, and thus bl= ock reads from the dsp. Might be a learning curve to get things right though.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 21:35:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C249A0E79 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C821A84 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:35:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BAF7290033B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:35:38 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449437743; bh=DUHfFGOhxsG7/txeb7ceuIo2TV7gtTUXSeQ7gXuZfFw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=CLcUtcitDEGkWuW2UwcLlf5j1fXppgknH5qwetfHEyZcQ64vdNQyGuR97skr/m5dE JDyCodcqRJIxIXmseEWy3z2k0EwCY0L8mgImRaUL9q7sqJwaSzE2S3tR8CEf7nhyZd NduNc3P+94RSXYH5eJZjsGupO1+tfm2yb1pt+4fY= Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:37:19 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS in jail Message-ID: <20151206213719.GB5294@hpmini> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> <20151206194958.GB4044@hpmini> <4A96B34F-EC69-4036-8D49-73C9B1E662F1@ccsys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A96B34F-EC69-4036-8D49-73C9B1E662F1@ccsys.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 21:35:45 -0000 Thank you for your ideas. Indeed, unfortunately a network audio server is too high level a solution. But if it comes to that I guess it is an alternative, so I will look into that. According to my setup here, the devfs filesystem does not support file system flags. Also, in FreeBSD, device nodes only work if they reside on such a filesystem. If I find a solution I will post it here. On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 03:09:44PM -0500, Jake wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > > > > 2015-12-06 21:49 GMT+02:00 Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira > > : > >> Sorry, I meant write-only mode. > > If a user has write access, how do you want to prevent him to set permissions? > > I think that's what he's asking us, the general community. Maybe not for a solution as simple as the standard device nodes and permissions, since he also described his use case as the actual goal. Without actually forming a specific plan for u in detail, a setup involving network send/receive and on a solution such as what Jack2 (and others) provide comes to mind. That may work for you Fernando or it may not be low-level enough to fit all your desires. Perhaps a simpler solution using the append-only file flag would suffice and disallowing the jail to change flags is workable. See allow.chflags in man 8 jail and/or man 5 jail.conf. I believe there's a global setting and a per jail setting. > > I'm interested in hearing about what solutions you/we can come up with. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 21:43:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2B29A0021 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB711D8A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 388222900381; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:43:16 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449438199; bh=tt5UbWAxTAQWE3f6TGRDVGZzsf73psLjlno5IlEBu7Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=SKk+VM6QAKB+cyfkIRRgKaNd0jsobGfF67Ct7DaDjiWUD/49eYdLBtfZdQHf3TP0D 7oob8eB+QGuCxjBN/gL+CrBmPSsDhiqLeAPzWCrbRU7C0fEKFISzSVMec/IlPMWDor 7AOjm7tYOgoX6JAuzE1GDU8uwRtz5teXM7enE588= Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:44:56 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: Terje Elde Cc: Anton Sayetsky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS in jail Message-ID: <20151206214455.GA5435@hpmini> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> <20151206194851.GA4044@hpmini> <20151206195709.GA4100@hpmini> <87C55BB9-84B2-43B0-BD7D-2E045753C83C@elde.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87C55BB9-84B2-43B0-BD7D-2E045753C83C@elde.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 21:43:21 -0000 This is very promising. I will give it a shot. Thanks very much. On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:19:24PM +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > > > On 06 Dec 2015, at 20:57, Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: > > > > This is the precise problem. > > I need either a stronger form of access control than unix permissions > > or two separate devices for playback and recording. > > Or maybe a separate OSS stack, in the spirit of VIMAGE. > > These options seem unrealistic, but the use case does not seem > > unreasonable, which is why I pose the question. > > Although I haven't tested it for devices, it's likely you can solve this by using MAC, and the "file system firewall"; mac_bsdextended > > Effectively you can define "firewall rules" for the file system, and thus block reads from the dsp. > > Might be a learning curve to get things right though. > > Terje > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 23:10:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53659A0319 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yk0-x22e.google.com (mail-yk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEDF411A9 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: by ykba77 with SMTP id a77so176690847ykb.2 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:10:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=zFmIJlma+oQZiBwi2PpD8010pCwjaJmnYgIffkfIejo=; b=uCIZCmsRRs4OUIsaUbTIya2UH6S/nW9cD0sVr6kc/ukN4ptznRN+0ubZg7l5ScjiZ2 sYyg+HNnxylfWFBk68KE1+kZ1y4BDQmE05/UrtqzknLgdVS90dKovPYf7fSZ2kz3hBQ5 cRSY4sJfu88afO6DSgW5MHcZGatZcDwv4aO1Svx84JlLHvAKRC+MxP3hl7Srm9icvgGL rahGWGMhYATFvr2Unft7Z8nV2tO9NkitZT2duN2oSGSsbQS8b4BTc/XwJ3MDKaus8mvd TOzn5HzZmqoh0EJYs5pke1ZyQHTEys7Tg6Vf5kdBrnwu6ZuHqOkiJ2dgMEPhTDeJw86S ybOw== X-Received: by 10.129.27.12 with SMTP id b12mr19634154ywb.140.1449443402630; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316? ([2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e64sm16980949ywb.25.2015.12.06.15.10.00 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:10:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: John Aten In-Reply-To: <5663D233.3030300@restecp.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:09:58 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0C16B8E2-D36E-4626-8156-BA716470E79D@gmail.com> References: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> <5663D233.3030300@restecp.com> To: Colin House X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 23:10:04 -0000 On Dec 6, 2015, at 12:14 AM, Colin House wrote: > On 6/12/2015 12:15 PM, John Aten wrote: >> Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not = available or version mismatch >> Dec 5 07:33:33 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice >=20 > I had the same problem while rebuilding a few test machines today. >=20 > In my case I'd installed 10.2-RELEASE but then grabbed the 10-STABLE = source to build emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions via svn. >=20 > =46rom there a buildworld & buildkernel (and install, obviously) to = bring the system up to 10-STABLE did the trick. I did that exact same thing. I attempted to follow the instructions at = https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/makeworld.html , but ran = into errors when running `make buildkernel`. I didn't manage to get the = errors copied down, but in any case the VM won't boot at all now. I am = just going to download a new image and start over.=20 Thanks for your help! John= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 6 23:34:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188AE9A079A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yk0-x232.google.com (mail-yk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1A861D78 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: by ykdr82 with SMTP id r82so176945211ykd.3 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:34:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=upNiNmLAbWjXBuoOXkUWeD11CFHoBhoTeB/bB+hPrcE=; b=oJoSz7hiLu5zo7HRVU+0pjokxX353cxke2EmvnzkuoNHnH8ilp7+aU3/FxyYvAWzrN YsuJORmznC9LuNGK7iSJr0v2qTTxdfkw3HlfdtbPAvCCFfDINoPmnhnmFp09z/+p52Fb YVa4TZ4LxuDGRAWyfE5DgfLbBdrjZV0WRdsV4mLtokJnEnCJ6QXB4HW6PNo2fZknwJwk Krfp1DylCQQE2xL+tRorR9IcuXnpce4LgeBtsfKBPf8Y4nJbs12qNVpSOZP1+FPogw0E tU8iMEma23DQYCqj6JSzPgLw/Y+eXLL64DUeTOpx/GzHp4CcBciRjSR3Cj886iMUJQdX CmFw== X-Received: by 10.13.218.68 with SMTP id c65mr20708781ywe.315.1449444873062; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316? ([2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q141sm16997550ywg.22.2015.12.06.15.34.31 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:34:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: John Aten In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:34:29 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <26A369F7-EB9E-4BC1-A002-990820F90DB1@gmail.com> References: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> To: Warren Block X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 23:34:34 -0000 On Dec 5, 2015, at 11:18 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 5 Dec 2015, John Aten wrote: >=20 >> After installing Enlightenment, I ran X -configure, >=20 > Why? The very first thing to try is letting X detect hardware and = autoconfig. That means running it without any xorg.conf at all I didn't know that. I was having the problem before I ran X -configure, = and when I was researching it I thought that this was a step I missed. = The keyboard and mouse do not work, though, whether with no xorg.conf, = with the one I previously posted, or with an xorg.conf containing only = the suggested lines: >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Mouse0" >> Driver "vboxmouse" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "Device" >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "vboxvideo" >> EndSection The VM won't boot at all now. I am not sure what happened, but I think = it must have something to do that I synced the wrong version of the = source. I am going to download another vm image and start over. Maybe = that will fix the problem. Thanks for the information. John From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 00:12:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A637344 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yk0-x230.google.com (mail-yk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DFC41A2D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: by ykdr82 with SMTP id r82so177509842ykd.3 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:12:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; bh=RqV9ayMPUcxeXnjP86J/jdVd7pE9rxaZmLGNQ6Bllkk=; b=lXCeeNAdcEhWS72xiuq7ZMBdK5L5rZeF0DuH3ssvHcRRZQ4GuVbLr2XkSVuEPo6WC2 b27LExmrBy36Vj1K2IMJ2uAxtnBNd8B2eqMi3KPkU8xbMpHciqVUTmT3wJLwYyk6tdNF laZPu3JAAPpaEhS9eiSbk0BxgFdYorfhd3yIsUV1SXzhRv/F9avaBPkUgF/FXPgi6Cqr Ijf/7B2ccsTTOUDeTGQJ4T1KrQMmuHhgQsGzwa93Gbcd2Q96/lPsujAskzMGKhMnNaQx SN/4jvF+Soln7re7UTiIUR6LDuKVX6EH5u6yR5WWeSTtC1gBCrJckDLBCUAd5f4fc9ib jFdA== X-Received: by 10.13.196.197 with SMTP id g188mr20419316ywd.209.1449447151410; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316? ([2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t123sm17062142ywg.51.2015.12.06.16.12.29 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:12:30 -0800 (PST) From: John Aten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Virtual Box VM fails to boot FreeBSD installer Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 18:12:28 -0600 Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 00:12:32 -0000 Hello everyone, Another virtualization problem: I tried installing FreeBSD 10.2 STABLE = for Amd64 into a Virtual Box (version 4.3.30 on Mac OSX 10.6.8), and ran = into trouble. I have had the same problem with both dvd and cd images. = The checksums matched, but neither image can boot the installer, giving = this message: /boot/kernel/kernel text=3D0xfc7f48 readin failed elf64_loadimage: read failed can't load file '/boot/kernel/kernel': input/output error Error while including /boot/menu.rc, in the line: menu-display / Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... /boot/kernel/kernel text=3D0xfc7f48 readin failed elf64_loadimage: read failed can't load 'kernel' This is the message given by the CD image; I am pretty sure the DVD gave = the same errors, but I have since deleted the dvd image. I have looked = around online, and haven't been able to find anything on this. I have = tried different settings for the VM, and get the same thing.=20 Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, John= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 00:24:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD79D759B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CD51DA8 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B940E290038E; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 22:24:18 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449447862; bh=HdRUB8oPO0uep6/+p8V7EoUb+hI3LyhqnZqXVqTP9yk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Ig4s7mBbash/3NfyOk+QnmuWib16XqlcovSYVuJDD5M2alS1Cbcv7H2ScPs3/WncT OkAiwXNZ+yWvjztHrubv3kYWjnkCHGEbHnkbOWoeFloFMBC/YStbYjQfjVZdPPDjB3 E7PtFXAJDq4NYTDiql5oXjct/b2rvKkX1doH3KXI= Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 22:25:59 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: Terje Elde Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS in jail Message-ID: <20151207002558.GA7494@hpmini> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> <20151206194851.GA4044@hpmini> <20151206195709.GA4100@hpmini> <87C55BB9-84B2-43B0-BD7D-2E045753C83C@elde.net> <20151206214455.GA5435@hpmini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20151206214455.GA5435@hpmini> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 00:24:24 -0000 Hi, The mac_bsdextended man page directs the user to try the ugidfw utility to add mandatory access control rules. However, the manual page of this utility seems to indicate that the finest granularity of objects described by these rules is the filesystem level. Thus, it does not seem possible to change the access control policy of individual /dev nodes. On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 07:44:56PM -0200, Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: > This is very promising. I will give it a shot. > Thanks very much. > > On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:19:24PM +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > > > > > On 06 Dec 2015, at 20:57, Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: > > > > > > This is the precise problem. > > > I need either a stronger form of access control than unix permissions > > > or two separate devices for playback and recording. > > > Or maybe a separate OSS stack, in the spirit of VIMAGE. > > > These options seem unrealistic, but the use case does not seem > > > unreasonable, which is why I pose the question. > > > > Although I haven't tested it for devices, it's likely you can solve this by using MAC, and the "file system firewall"; mac_bsdextended > > > > Effectively you can define "firewall rules" for the file system, and thus block reads from the dsp. > > > > Might be a learning curve to get things right though. > > > > Terje > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 02:49:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7409B7CEA for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 02:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29A671C7F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 02:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a5lro-0005vw-1X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:49:36 +0100 Received: from 203.184.10.44 ([203.184.10.44]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:49:32 +0100 Received: from erwin.pacua by 203.184.10.44 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:49:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Erwin Pacua Subject: Re: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:49:11 +1300 Lines: 227 Message-ID: References: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> Reply-To: erwin.pacua@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.184.10.44 User-Agent: KNode/4.14.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 02:49:40 -0000 John Aten wrote: > Hello all, > > I am completely new to FreeBSD. I recently downloaded the FreeBSD > 10.2-RELEASE virtual machine image for Virtual Box. I am running Virtual > Box 4.3.30 on Mac OSX 10.6.8. (There are newer versions of Virtual Box, > which require a newer version of OSX than I am running, thus I haven't > been able to upgrade) Everything seemed to go well, until I tried to get a > window manager working. I installed the Enlightenment desktop in my > regular user account, but when it starts the mouse and keyboard do not > work. The same happens in whatever basic window manager comes up in the > root account. > > The X log says that since 'hotplugging' is on, these devices will be > disabled: > > [ 429.942] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > [ 429.943] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' > [ or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. 429.943] (WW) Disabling Mouse0 > [ 432.737] (II) config/devd: adding input device (null) (/dev/sysmouse) > [ 432.737] (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > [ 432.738] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so > [ 432.742] (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 432.742] (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" > [ 432.742] (II) Unloading mouse > [ 432.742] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement > [ mismatch, 0) 432.743] (EE) No input driver matching `mouse' > [ 432.777] (II) config/devd: adding input device Mouse (/dev/psm0) > [ 432.777] (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > [ 432.778] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so > [ 432.779] (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 432.779] (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" > [ 432.779] (II) Unloading mouse > [ 432.779] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement > [ mismatch, 0) 432.779] (EE) No input driver matching `mouse' > [ 429.942] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > [ 429.943] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 > > I have found several articles and forum threads that deal with this, and > similar issues, but none of the fixes seem to work, and many involve other > issues that I am not having. > > I installed the virtualbox guest additions from ports, and from looking at > various sources around the internet, I placed the following in rc.conf: > > ifconfig_em0="DHCP" > > vboxguest_enable="YES" > vboxservice_enable="YES" > > mouse_enable="YES" > > hald_enable="YES" > dbus_enable="YES" > > It appears I do not have hald installed; when I run `service hald start`, > I get an error that says hald does not exist. I read somewhere that hald > is deprecated, anyway, so I'm not sure that getting it running is the > answer. Before I read that, though, I did add the suggested > /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy called 90-vboxguest.fdi file recommended > from here: > http://technologytales.com/2014/03/02/installing-freebsd-in-a-virtualbox-virtual-machine/ > . > > I don't know if maybe I have a problem with the guest additions install; I > don't see how this would produce the problem, but I do get the following > warnings in /var/log/messages: > > Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: > Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard > Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI > device > Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device > Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not > available or version mismatch > Dec 4 22:31:07 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice > Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: > Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard > Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI > device > Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device > Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not > available or version mismatch > Dec 5 06:49:31 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice > Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: > Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard > Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI > device > Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device > Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not > available or version mismatch > Dec 5 07:27:16 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice > Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: > Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard > Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI > device > Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device > Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not > available or version mismatch > Dec 5 07:33:33 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice > Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: > Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard > Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI > device > Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device > Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not > available or version mismatch > Dec 5 18:04:55 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice > > After installing Enlightenment, I ran X -configure, and also added some > lines to xorg.conf in accordance with suggestions from the internet. My > current xorg.conf (I added both "AutoAddDevices" lines, and the entire > ServerFlags section): > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" > EndSection > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "glx" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "vboxmouse" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Monitor Model" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz", > ### : "%" > ### [arg]: arg optional > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "vboxvideo" > BusID "PCI:0:2:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 1 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > > I am pretty sure that this is all that I have altered in the course of > working on this problem, but it is easy to lose track. It seems that I > have to somehow turn 'hotplugging' off, but I have not been able to find > out how to successfully do this, and I have no idea what to do next. I > would very much appreciate any insight on this problem. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" PCBSD is working fine without this line > Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not > available or version mismatch how about reinstalling virtualbox-ose-additions which provides vboxguest. Then unload/reload the module back, or restart? > mouse_enable="YES" it's moused. I don't have that line and mouse under X is working fine, though. output of pkg info | grep 'xf86-input-' would be helpful. Hope it helps. 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([2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u190sm17556829ywd.17.2015.12.06.19.05.58 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:05:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: John Aten In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:05:57 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2607C7BB-43F7-429F-B311-924A797CE185@gmail.com> References: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> To: erwin.pacua@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:06:01 -0000 On Dec 6, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Erwin Pacua wrote: > John Aten wrote: >=20 >> Hello all, >>=20 >> I am completely new to FreeBSD. I recently downloaded the FreeBSD >> 10.2-RELEASE virtual machine image for Virtual Box. I am running = Virtual >> Box 4.3.30 on Mac OSX 10.6.8. (There are newer versions of Virtual = Box, >> which require a newer version of OSX than I am running, thus I = haven't >> been able to upgrade) Everything seemed to go well, until I tried to = get a >> window manager working. I installed the Enlightenment desktop in my >> regular user account, but when it starts the mouse and keyboard do = not >> work. The same happens in whatever basic window manager comes up in = the >> root account. >>=20 >> The X log says that since 'hotplugging' is on, these devices will be >> disabled: >>=20 >> [ 429.942] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" >> [ 429.943] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', = 'mouse' >> [ or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. 429.943] (WW) Disabling Mouse0 >> [ 432.737] (II) config/devd: adding input device (null) = (/dev/sysmouse) >> [ 432.737] (II) LoadModule: "mouse" >> [ 432.738] (II) Loading = /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so >> [ 432.742] (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >> [ 432.742] (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" >> [ 432.742] (II) Unloading mouse >> [ 432.742] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement >> [ mismatch, 0) 432.743] (EE) No input driver matching `mouse' >> [ 432.777] (II) config/devd: adding input device Mouse (/dev/psm0) >> [ 432.777] (II) LoadModule: "mouse" >> [ 432.778] (II) Loading = /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so >> [ 432.779] (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >> [ 432.779] (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" >> [ 432.779] (II) Unloading mouse >> [ 432.779] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement >> [ mismatch, 0) 432.779] (EE) No input driver matching `mouse' >> [ 429.942] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" >> [ 429.943] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 >>=20 >> I have found several articles and forum threads that deal with this, = and >> similar issues, but none of the fixes seem to work, and many involve = other >> issues that I am not having. >>=20 >> I installed the virtualbox guest additions from ports, and from = looking at >> various sources around the internet, I placed the following in = rc.conf: >>=20 >> ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" >>=20 >> vboxguest_enable=3D"YES" >> vboxservice_enable=3D"YES" >>=20 >> mouse_enable=3D"YES" >>=20 >> hald_enable=3D"YES" >> dbus_enable=3D"YES" >>=20 >> It appears I do not have hald installed; when I run `service hald = start`, >> I get an error that says hald does not exist. I read somewhere that = hald >> is deprecated, anyway, so I'm not sure that getting it running is the >> answer. Before I read that, though, I did add the suggested >> /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy called 90-vboxguest.fdi file = recommended >> from here: >> = http://technologytales.com/2014/03/02/installing-freebsd-in-a-virtualbox-v= irtual-machine/ >> . >>=20 >> I don't know if maybe I have a problem with the guest additions = install; I >> don't see how this would produce the problem, but I do get the = following >> warnings in /var/log/messages: >>=20 >> Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: >> Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard >> Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI >> device >> Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device >> Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not >> available or version mismatch >> Dec 4 22:31:07 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice >> Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: >> Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard >> Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI >> device >> Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device >> Dec 5 06:49:29 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not >> available or version mismatch >> Dec 5 06:49:31 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice >> Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: >> Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard >> Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI >> device >> Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device >> Dec 5 07:27:14 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not >> available or version mismatch >> Dec 5 07:27:16 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice >> Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: >> Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard >> Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI >> device >> Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device >> Dec 5 07:33:31 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not >> available or version mismatch >> Dec 5 07:33:33 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice >> Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: >> Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard >> Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI >> device >> Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: ada0: ATA-6 device >> Dec 5 18:04:52 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not >> available or version mismatch >> Dec 5 18:04:55 root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start vboxservice >>=20 >> After installing Enlightenment, I ran X -configure, and also added = some >> lines to xorg.conf in accordance with suggestions from the internet. = My >> current xorg.conf (I added both "AutoAddDevices" lines, and the = entire >> ServerFlags section): >>=20 >> Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "X.org Configured" >> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "ServerFlags" >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "Files" >> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "Module" >> Load "glx" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Keyboard0" >> Driver "kbd" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Mouse0" >> Driver "vboxmouse" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "Monitor" >> Identifier "Monitor0" >> VendorName "Monitor Vendor" >> ModelName "Monitor Model" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "Device" >> ### Available Driver options are:- >> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", >> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz", >> ### : "%" >> ### [arg]: arg optional >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "vboxvideo" >> BusID "PCI:0:2:0" >> EndSection >>=20 >> Section "Screen" >> Identifier "Screen0" >> Device "Card0" >> Monitor "Monitor0" >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 1 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 4 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 8 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 15 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 16 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 24 >> EndSubSection >> EndSection >>=20 >> I am pretty sure that this is all that I have altered in the course = of >> working on this problem, but it is easy to lose track. It seems that = I >> have to somehow turn 'hotplugging' off, but I have not been able to = find >> out how to successfully do this, and I have no idea what to do next. = I >> would very much appreciate any insight on this problem. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >> unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" > PCBSD is working fine without this line >=20 >> Dec 4 22:31:06 kernel: KLD vboxguest.ko: depends on kernel - not >> available or version mismatch > how about reinstalling virtualbox-ose-additions which provides = vboxguest.=20 > Then unload/reload the module back, or restart? >=20 >> mouse_enable=3D"YES" > it's moused. I don't have that line and mouse under X is working fine,=20= > though. >=20 > output of > pkg info | grep 'xf86-input-'=20 > would be helpful. >=20 > Hope it helps. I would love to provide the output of pkg info | grep 'xf86-input-' , = but unfortunately I totally destroyed the vm I was working in. When I = first tried to install guest additions from ports, I got an error that = said the source code was unavailable. When I got the source through SVN, = I messed up and got a different version than the one I was running. I = then installed the guest additions, so it appears that this messed = things up somehow, unless I made some other error. I followed Colin = House's suggestion to buildworld & buildkernel, following the = instructions in the handbook, but somehow messed everything up; after = that the VM wouldn't boot at all, so I decided to just start over.=20 Thanks for the help, in any case; I haven't had a chance to get the new = vm up and running, but if I have the same problem I'll be back! John= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 03:23:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332DC795A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 03:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.everyone.net", Issuer "DigiCert High Assurance CA-3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F6C811CD for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 03:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from pps.filterd (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tB703T8j025663; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:04:38 -0800 X-Eon-Dm: m0087080.ppops.net Received: by m0087080.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4272bd84) id m0087080.564febf7.13ee0eb; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:05:05 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQPOPGJWZM0xlYzcBwIAAAAC,14478618c01b282d005123a0b3d7333c X-Originating-Ip: 66.114.189.132 Message-ID: <5664CD2C.2090207@emailrob.com> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 00:05:00 +0000 From: spellberg_robert Reply-To: emailrob@emailrob.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: release schedule , nines and tens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.15.21, 1.0.33, 0.0.0000 definitions=2015-12-07_01:2015-12-05,2015-12-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1511060000 definitions=main-1512070000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:23:41 -0000 howdy , folks --- i see that the release schedules for 10.3 and 11.0 are available much earlier than usual [ start of beta ] . this is nice . it permits me [ and others ] to plan_ahead , to the extent of the published information . i remembered seeing a notice , a_while back , that the releases would be changed , beginning with the elevens . i went back , earlier today , to re_read this notice , so that i would have its content fresh in my mind , before i posed the following questions [ see -announce , 2015_feb_03_tue , from mr. seaman ] . as i write this , i have it displayed on another screen . now , i can read_between_the_lines as well as anybody [ the support page , with the releases and their eol_dates , is very helpful for guessing ; i have that displayed , also , on that other screen ] . however , i do not like to make assumptions . therefore , given that change is approaching [ and is , now , ten months closer , relative to the notice ] , i come straight_out and ask : a] does anyone know if decisions have been made regarding : 0] is 9.3 to be the last of the nines or is there a plan to release a 9.4 ? 1] is 10.3 to be the last of the tens or is there a plan to release a 10.4 ? b] if so , what are those decisions ? c] if not , is there a known or an estimated date for the making of the above_described decisions ? fwiw , i like to use the highest minor_number , because the dot_zero bugs have been found and fixed . i got a lot of mileage out of 4.11 and 6.4 [ for me , they played like champs ; in fact , the only reason for the retiring of 6.4 was the acquisition of 64_bit hardware ] . i never installed a 5 , because of all of the release_controversy . a 7.4 was replaced quickly [ acroread would not install ] by 8.4 . i am currently running 8.1 , 8.4 , 9.3 and 10.2 [ 10.2 was an emergency install that , probably , will not survive the release of 10.3 ] . the 8.1 should be replaced [ but , it just keeps working ] . the 8.4 is three years newer ; it can wait until the summer . i want to settle on the nines and tens while i watch the elevens and the new policy shake_out . thanks , in advance , for any information . rob From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 05:17:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0D19B71AE for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 05:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5157A1239 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 05:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tB75HYtw025710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:17:35 -0600 Subject: Re: release schedule , nines and tens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5664CD2C.2090207@emailrob.com> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <5665166E.2090108@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:23:04 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5664CD2C.2090207@emailrob.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 05:17:37 -0000 On 12/06/15 18:11, spellberg_robert wrote: > howdy , folks --- > > i see that the release schedules for 10.3 and 11.0 > are available much earlier than usual [ start of beta ] . > this is nice . > it permits me [ and others ] to plan_ahead , > to the extent of the published information . > > i remembered seeing a notice , a_while back , that > the releases would be changed , beginning with the elevens . > i went back , earlier today , to re_read this notice , > so that i would have its content fresh in my mind , > before i posed the following questions > [ see -announce , 2015_feb_03_tue , from mr. seaman ] . > as i write this , i have it displayed on another screen . > > now , i can read_between_the_lines as well as anybody > [ the support page , with the releases and their eol_dates , > is very helpful for guessing ; > i have that displayed , also , on that other screen > ] . > however , i do not like to make assumptions . > therefore , given that change is approaching > [ and is , now , ten months closer , relative to the notice ] , > i come straight_out and ask : > > > > a] does anyone know if decisions have been made regarding : > > 0] is 9.3 to be the last of the nines or > is there a plan to release a 9.4 ? > > 1] is 10.3 to be the last of the tens or > is there a plan to release a 10.4 ? > > b] if so , what are those decisions ? > > c] if not , is there a known or an estimated date for > the making of the above_described decisions ? > > > > fwiw , i like to use the highest minor_number , > because the dot_zero bugs have been found and fixed . > i got a lot of mileage out of 4.11 and 6.4 > [ for me , they played like champs ; > in fact , the only reason for the retiring of 6.4 was > the acquisition of 64_bit hardware > ] . > i never installed a 5 , because of all of the release_controversy . > a 7.4 was replaced quickly [ acroread would not install ] by 8.4 . > i am currently running 8.1 , 8.4 , 9.3 and 10.2 > [ 10.2 was an emergency install that , probably , > will not survive the release of 10.3 > ] . > the 8.1 should be replaced [ but , it just keeps working ] . > the 8.4 is three years newer ; it can wait until the summer . > i want to settle on the nines and tens > while i watch the elevens and the new policy shake_out . > > thanks , in advance , for any information . > > rob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > $0.02 from the cheap seats: I'd love to see a 9.4, maybe 9.5, w/ docker & 64-bit emulation working AOK .... Oc course I might get stuck there ;-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 05:27:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B8E9B73CD for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 05:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x22a.google.com (mail-pf0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95F6015F6 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 05:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by pfnn128 with SMTP id n128so58847496pfn.0 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 21:27:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6nKxTRLTPTZzE34x9sTMw94eAdLUBzaHbWAwEqZhsrQ=; b=vZ/fng96/SZhAhELbLmjAq+8evmd+qUHc9IzfjjysqmTz2uW69YtbT2B0Q305abXZT kd8v7VMOoWrk2fCpSjEwovuYYuQR+VdzoIUAH6tjmRJa86uU8Sz0gDN9pq4vC+ySeYl4 fGmvlbhiJMIN2kDvmMnMzPKn5kaUBZie5s0lvShvTzQDCEWTCbjgeV4xsF1OyD40PAdd fssmJtZSh4RA7cQ8qwH4YIMq4vkPc5b4rqRv6dqwReNPm4JmWNiEEq9oOtzmcxVZs7vp sD447EUvlAcJ84N2us9vJYA7KDDXuD0qhByDUtM61QGG5Oeiscp1Dd89VtOXC16+zo+t 9WJg== X-Received: by 10.98.70.138 with SMTP id o10mr40953940pfi.17.1449466057333; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 21:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.111.129] ([120.29.76.26]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 13sm31442428pfp.68.2015.12.06.21.27.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Dec 2015 21:27:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <566518C9.6010402@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:27:37 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kpneal@pobox.com CC: spellberg_robert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release schedule , nines and tens References: <5664CD2C.2090207@emailrob.com> <20151207041519.GA62555@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20151207041519.GA62555@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 05:27:38 -0000 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 12:05:00AM +0000, spellberg_robert wrote: >> a] does anyone know if decisions have been made regarding : >> >> 0] is 9.3 to be the last of the nines or >> is there a plan to release a 9.4 ? >> >> 1] is 10.3 to be the last of the tens or >> is there a plan to release a 10.4 ? >> >> b] if so , what are those decisions ? >> >> c] if not , is there a known or an estimated date for >> the making of the above_described decisions ? > > There's probably a better place to ask than this list. Try a the stable > list. Worst case use the email address on this page: > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.3R/schedule.html > >> [ 10.2 was an emergency install that , probably , >> will not survive the release of 10.3 >> ] . > > I'm running 10.2 and I'm waiting to see if it survives a month without > crashing. I've got my 9.3-p14 filesystem ready to fall back on if I need > to. The list traffic I've seen regarding 10.2 does make me a little nervous. > It'll probably be fine, but, just in case... > I have been running 10.2 386 since it was first released with 20+ jails without any crashes. Been rock hard for me using jail.conf. I have no plans to go to 10.3, plan to go to 11.0 because the legacy rc.conf method of jail definition is suppose to be removed all together leaving only the new jail.conf method of jail definition which is far more flexible. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 12:40:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BF599A5B8 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B37C129D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.4.17]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQwBS-1Zh3Mh3VbK-00UNhb for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:40:13 +0100 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a5v5Q-000J1V-Se for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:40:12 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:40:12 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X won't start Message-ID: <20151207124012.GA73105@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151203174008.GA98937@becker.bs.l> <20151203222137.GA1111@becker.bs.l> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:iCjppwUmWkRMq3N96271fDT2DMp/aUWFIFfOAuqKNRuFY1nNxza fqAnCeGXcC3ERuRCslzHQko5zYPM0zfoSmovjZJ16Nhkkaex5KrY2cHb7DpSgPxZPllT5Rr 04oSxPy6dZZ55zacGpCURrhidmf8AgwiQc0hg4BneKoAGOs6swmxOBKCQEJeXHVcv/EmYIL 1yx0LM7LJogVkLSuFSNeg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:IQqxmMaKA18=:rEBGDSGJYCWMl3QDLQUD1M ZHNTwnhOGTt41Jn9Xd9mi3Q/LV7cOIJIspz2aqswMwvil9u3jHF8sSY3c+/fVbt+XHfzDJrnD KJf3jrjz3AvJP22Ns5bmohSBd2q3EMQnVly32dgl8ksjTGYWrGTjZzqsfysRRQO7U4O1LzCsE XtsiEXy6sc/GfTDCQxv1PvXqsIpDVQPf8JKWBT/BWSd6lFWkCqYYyMU+bf2OI7RlqlYK0H5Cu v2EyQQqBdklAqCvUqgFy0RsMv7+V090Vzu4hc4eUbaoDXtNtJco+w7tKa6sHxOHG0sD6cAZuN Thj3mlYtqTynfFBmUdlRErnS5AzTNHThWqYrVFuGv7hFfU6OqlAuXKeQYbGJRxPamg/jVmTN0 mSljNiMplmuCiGSZnj8r29u1nsyGXs++/UYMhSj0NUrEj7TeLzwyKpiUjdBDBUk+ISkeHPsjq k3QIhwnI1JeHFyR1IZTUvItWoxwum+wMY4dxFdhNSRAm2ms2JNhFmWxksbICEHUOO0Fg8JV0e DH6kdhvEM5Yd4PkbJqx8cZYFgo/mlEU4gMBRjcll5vbLnzy9/A+WL3E/P+kyDybh/oxav3WiH Cl1dQ2pc5FWRwbyy8tMDNT55gP3Uxr2O+AqZeRtkyo2SjiAEjWOnZvYwf9C/txmMZ4XDDhA8d 9iTzR2PHzVnvAFqUP99DV442DQs72EDwXzR4fDtgZySlM9/R8ZS9FrlDmI9rSZmbtsAI= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:40:23 -0000 On Thursday, 03. Dec 2015, 16:31:05 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > On Thursday, 03. Dec 2015, 13:42:25 -0700, Warren Block wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > > Identifier "Card0" > > > > Driver "intel" > > > > BusID "PCI:0:2:0" > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > # pciconf -lv | grep -A 4 vga > > > > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x803a103c chip=0x16068086 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 > > > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > > > device = 'Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics' > > > > class = display > > > > subclass = VGA > > > > > > > > Looks good, doesn't it? Besides that, Linux on the same > > > > machine uses the "intel" driver successfully. > > > > > > Broadwell is not yet supported by the intel driver version in FreeBSD. > > > At present, vesa must be used. > > > > What does "not yet"/"at present" mean? Is there currently > > work on it? I would not mind to contribute, not least > > because I now own an excellent testing environment. > > I believe broadwell is covered in the 3.8 update. > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/Update%20i915%20GPU%20driver%20to%20Linux%203.8 Doesn't work here. I'll try to continue the discussion on freebsd-x11. Thank you so far. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 13:04:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A763199AAAE for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2821610E3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id tB7D4RNk067567; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 00:04:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 00:04:26 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Lu?s Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS in jail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20151207234938.F52001@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:04:39 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 601, Issue 1, Message: 4 On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:44:01 -0200 Lu?s Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: > I would like one of my jails to have the ability to play back sound, > but not to record it. As I understand, sound is played back by writing > to /dev/dsp and recorded by reading from it. Hence, placing the /dev/dsp > device (and /dev/dsp[0-9]* devices) in the jail via devfs.rules is not > a solution since the jail superuser can override permissions on these > devices and even read from them when they lack read permission. > > Is there a way to give a device to a jail in read-only mode? > If not, is it possible to create a virtual OSS stack and give that to > the jail? > How would you solve this problem? > > Also, is it possible to give the jail a mixer device that can only read > mixer settings but not alter them? > > Thanks, > Lu?s Sorry about charset mapping .. I suggest asking this (interesting) question in either or both of freebsd-jail@freebsd.org and freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org . I'm vaguely wondering if you could use port audio/jack for this, but I've only used that on Linux, and that with ALSA .. but I expect you should find some help from the habitual denizens of those lists. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 13:37:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9297A9A0247 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35795144C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e032aea3; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:37:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id bcb98adb TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:37:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449495444.7860.30.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: release schedule , nines and tens From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 08:37:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <5665166E.2090108@hiwaay.net> References: <5664CD2C.2090207@emailrob.com> <5665166E.2090108@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-yvUQaxDh6xBQuoQD8Djy" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:37:34 -0000 --=-yvUQaxDh6xBQuoQD8Djy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2015-12-06 at 23:23 +0000, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 12/06/15 18:11, spellberg_robert wrote: > > howdy , folks --- > >=20 > > i see that the release schedules for 10.3 and 11.0 > > =C2=A0 are available much earlier than usual [ start of beta ] . > > this is nice . > > it permits me [ and others ] to plan_ahead , > > =C2=A0 to the extent of the published information . > >=20 > > i remembered seeing a notice , a_while back , that > > =C2=A0 the releases would be changed , beginning with the elevens . > > i went back , earlier today , to re_read this notice , > > =C2=A0 so that i would have its content fresh in my mind , > > =C2=A0 before i posed the following questions > > =C2=A0 [ see -announce , 2015_feb_03_tue , from mr. seaman ] . > > as i write this , i have it displayed on another screen . > >=20 > > now , i can read_between_the_lines as well as anybody > > =C2=A0 [ the support page , with the releases and their eol_dates , > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0is very helpful for guessing ; > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0i have that displayed , also , on t= hat other screen > > =C2=A0 ] . > > however , i do not like to make assumptions . > > therefore , given that change is approaching > > =C2=A0 [ and is , now , ten months closer , relative to the notice ] , > > =C2=A0 i come straight_out and ask : > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > a]=C2=A0=C2=A0does anyone know if decisions have been made regarding : > >=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A00]=C2=A0=C2=A0is=C2=A0=C2=A09.3 to = be the last of the nines or > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0is there a plan to release a=C2=A0=C2=A09.4 ? > >=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01]=C2=A0=C2=A0is 10.3 to be the las= t of the=C2=A0=C2=A0tens or > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0is there a plan to release a 10.4 ? > >=20 > > b]=C2=A0=C2=A0if=C2=A0=C2=A0so , what are those decisions ? > >=20 > > c]=C2=A0=C2=A0if not , is there a known or an estimated date for > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the making of the above_described d= ecisions ? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > fwiw , i like to use the highest minor_number , > > =C2=A0 because the dot_zero bugs have been found and fixed . > > i got a lot of mileage out of 4.11 and 6.4 > > =C2=A0 [ for me , they played like champs ; > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0in fact , the only reason for the r= etiring of 6.4 was > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the acquisition of 64_bit hardware > > =C2=A0 ] . > > i never installed a 5 , because of all of the release_controversy . > > a 7.4 was replaced quickly [ acroread would not install ] by 8.4 . > > i am currently running 8.1 , 8.4 , 9.3 and 10.2 > > =C2=A0 [ 10.2 was an emergency install that , probably , > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0will not survive the release of 10.= 3 > > =C2=A0 ] . > > the 8.1 should be replaced [ but , it just keeps working ] . > > the 8.4 is three years newer ; it can wait until the summer . > > i want to settle on the nines and tens > > =C2=A0 while i watch the elevens and the new policy shake_out . > >=20 > > thanks , in advance , for any information . > >=20 > > rob > >=C2=A0 >=20 > $0.02 from the cheap seats: I'd love to see a 9.4, maybe 9.5, w/ > docker=20 > & 64-bit emulation working AOK .... Oc course I might get stuck there > ;-) .... >=20 >=20 At the moment:=C2=A0https://www.freebsd.org/releng/ Shows only plans for 10.3 and 11.0. And if we were going to see a 9.4 I would expect the planning to already be done. And:=C2=A0https://www.freebsd.org/security/ States that the Expected EOL for stable/9, releng/9.3, and releng/10.2 as 2016-12-31. While stable/10 does not yet have an Expected EOL. (10.3 and 11.0 are not yet listed). My impression is that in principle they would have liked to do a 9.4 but are unwilling to extend the life of the 9 branch. 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verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:18:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tB7EIX1F054728; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:18:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:18:33 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: John Aten cc: erwin.pacua@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM In-Reply-To: <2607C7BB-43F7-429F-B311-924A797CE185@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> <2607C7BB-43F7-429F-B311-924A797CE185@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:18:33 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:18:41 -0000 On Sun, 6 Dec 2015, John Aten wrote: > I would love to provide the output of pkg info | grep 'xf86-input-' , > but unfortunately I totally destroyed the vm I was working in. When I > first tried to install guest additions from ports, I got an error that > said the source code was unavailable. When I got the source through > SVN, I messed up and got a different version than the one I was > running. I then installed the guest additions, so it appears that this > messed things up somehow, unless I made some other error. I followed > Colin House's suggestion to buildworld & buildkernel, following the > instructions in the handbook, but somehow messed everything up; after > that the VM wouldn't boot at all, so I decided to just start over. Probably an error with mergemaster. That could be repaired, given time. As far as VirtualBox, yes, the guest additions kernel module needs to be built against the running code. Once that is done, the Handbook section on VirtualBox shows X configuration: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/virtualization-guest-virtualbox-guest-additions.html The Handbook general Xorg configuration section has been rewritten recently: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 14:20:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9119B738E for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.stuffins@ravexdata.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 327581C3D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.stuffins@ravexdata.com) Received: by lbblt2 with SMTP id lt2so64808502lbb.3 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:19:58 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aB3ziTTMvHZZpP5EJFpZcg57V4g6769fmxOrAqQ0mBA=; b=G3AUkeFfSFeUkMvWrlvX+/cIWoWr9HD7cPL4G9BFX+iiPpTQbtSwlG3l0k/MqT7HHN ZhSm+dlxW/ELKb8GjEFKUnaP6nhk7cDbsVVybcm12bFtF8vT9rK7gf3yI4dSHPvEURKU wHwJlwCO9OgJyx1/Y2seoatbWqkRhMmf3I0D1lG2kjk/UDiN0D7HLCD3AlJMxXwVo+Oy p25198qKYJjEGbiazTw/0xiv6fUPxMjc+MdMoD1s75FY0UnAiJQ3/T1IwqM49aCy6B3W OP9W7JPE/FknhEbqwNbJsRadYjTArKkxTlEkdt6nLhMYQ83Y0ok5LS5fLJQivZQYIufT 7RZw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlhDpcqpIpL1r3Ld1obT1pC9dng6OxFTr6ZCSIYiY1uXSgrTVgmdP7MKHTxzKOhxpKPWnoD MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.200.229 with SMTP id jv5mr14431173lbc.23.1449497617208; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.60.162 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 06:13:37 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [104.238.169.152] Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:13:37 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian From: Paul Stuffins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:20:06 -0000 Hi Everybody, Over the last couple of years I have tried many times to dump Debian and move to FreeBSD, but every time I have succumbed to Debian's charms and not stuck with FreeBSD. One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I just need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have never been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and stay with FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? Many Thanks Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 14:21:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B389B7612 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmatalka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FE9D1F2C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmatalka@gmail.com) Received: by wmvv187 with SMTP id v187so168777601wmv.1 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:21:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=8LKFAgMi+4z8z6uXGBbdZ/Qq8d34CpIszmITXGQpCAY=; b=Zc5S/x+RCHgF6BKRvOSrKHBjCS3lM0Yq44MhITfaaSSCWujS+EWift7DCzqUiLVvK3 hytd71+TupckZNMJ/Np6Sn14IUKyvrvaDzIkAbSI+qfyIHZu5bHbasYifxub2xnO9tc5 Y093DfzjC8L48DtSbpnS6HjFegRR2nnmovB/CbblJwhP2bGTMPq3KrgBD6XVPrYRSSiR VjJ5l8hj80yft6j3Mh/jkTpRi5iguAFXb0d+j+m9SRe2Yrul+L3SG+9YsZ0BzYS3jY2Y KPWBWYupRhCO4MolPPKPXvOwqNS70+VonGa4WiuMKW2roFNwy14jxPNHdBQE9//rtwvW uHGQ== X-Received: by 10.194.205.103 with SMTP id lf7mr32682930wjc.147.1449498116785; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (li195-236.members.linode.com. [178.79.139.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id da10sm25392743wjb.22.2015.12.07.06.21.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:21:55 -0800 (PST) From: Malcolm Matalka To: Paul Stuffins Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian References: Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:21:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Paul Stuffins's message of "Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:13:37 +0000") Message-ID: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:21:58 -0000 Paul Stuffins writes: > Hi Everybody, > > Over the last couple of years I have tried many times to dump Debian and > move to FreeBSD, but every time I have succumbed to Debian's charms and not > stuck with FreeBSD. > > One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I just > need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have never > been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. > > As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and stay with > FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of > upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? Use 'pkg' instead. pkg update and pkg upgrade > > Many Thanks > Paul > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 14:23:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF8D9B7831 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EC6A107B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by wmuu63 with SMTP id u63so142520264wmu.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:23:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=CDkOxWfyb9MbX0i+ZzpRmLvKgA9+P3S6xTOqAJFfFUA=; b=EHBV6pxTJPshQMIxFFxN3KxDvDR77eFf5mutiVWopuj0+TpMVkuH7iDelIIHquaADD jvdORDEBKygNmRD3oEx3lPBrAVswo6YgdoSjWPr9sg3QhweLJvqDmu+NddquoxN/LyyW BWtiQFGeJPrX44TpblZZ/pNYs02n9nIjCeXCdFK2+LjGWljLJNCcYISjYUMVESGYqDBx alQiaNXK3it3GTDM57RlPcaQ0hTm+Ar2DdImwV6jW0VP2VEoSo9D4161TTJnddaIW/yR n1THnv/+RRBlo+PsfRrNK8scvAeuQh95cPQ1Dmv66T/5LAQINiSbu9JPneG7rCAtdMn2 /vfg== X-Received: by 10.194.236.228 with SMTP id ux4mr34143482wjc.56.1449498219429; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:23:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 06:23:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:23:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: Malcolm Matalka Cc: Paul Stuffins , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:23:41 -0000 2015-12-07 16:21 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Matalka : > Paul Stuffins writes: > >> Hi Everybody, >> >> Over the last couple of years I have tried many times to dump Debian and >> move to FreeBSD, but every time I have succumbed to Debian's charms and not >> stuck with FreeBSD. >> >> One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I just >> need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have never >> been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. >> >> As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and stay with >> FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of >> upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? > > Use 'pkg' instead. pkg update and pkg upgrade pkg will update _packages_, not ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 14:24:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED78B9B796C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D30F114C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so142521078wmw.1 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:24:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Vmf+TU9WBPB52COEiI6Gj8bspQwv/K0Yx+pZpHUfvdk=; b=l5N82qmJRjSlkGJmS8X51i+bMd8TuUlUdTVgUKD3QhVBzBscgqMSXg9kRFnymPehVk NJ+GUPYm4iyu1srSJNokW6xhu8w3XMlTJmHesX26YXQBeZWJp8xBPsTCUphEznFisxXQ 82P4S/Z34HGnYtWQi8KvEBMNkJrAbFj9cn+ssdiSOMrue8G6n/sEvyTalJLNkHTZd8+k fooO5wq0cDGOK8DFf7X57h9QK5Iis+dWtvF5N+Ft459jqRSl2CwhnRbsBXOqoRamGpJ/ 2OUx9gMUk3MFbIv/ZKWCbTFIICRoqNNTxkw/6R3cqVBxQdypgusbJVde85CK6e7tPFEc vFvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.9.169 with SMTP id a9mr33088609wjb.60.1449498284032; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 06:24:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:24:43 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian From: Adam Vande More To: Paul Stuffins Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:24:46 -0000 On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Paul Stuffins wrote: > One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I just > need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have never > been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports.html -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 14:27:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A769B7BCA for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Received: from riddler.lateapex.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:6969::217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "riddler.lateapex.net", Issuer "riddler.lateapex.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 880F612AE for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (riddler.lateapex.net [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:6969:0:0:0:217]) (authenticated bits=0) by riddler.lateapex.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id tB7ERX1n018608 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:27:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) X-Authentication-Warning: riddler.lateapex.net: Host riddler.lateapex.net [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:6969:0:0:0:217] claimed to be [127.0.0.1] Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jason Van Patten Message-ID: <56659755.50104@lateapex.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:27:33 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=MTA-Peer; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; sender-ip=2001:470:e2f8:6969::217; sender-helo=[127.0.0.1]; X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=SessionId; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; sessionid='5cfc5957af484e7ba68c794b3cfb0ce5'; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:27:36 -0000 On 12/7/15 9:23 AM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2015-12-07 16:21 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Matalka : >> >> Use 'pkg' instead. pkg update and pkg upgrade > pkg will update _packages_, not ports. That's why Malcolm's first statement was: Use 'pkg' *instead*. Which is really the right thing to do in this case. For the vast majority of software used on FreeBSD: the ports tree isn't as necessary. Pkg does the deed. -- Jason Van Patten From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 15:05:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F419A007F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 130561D8E for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from host-4-75.office.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tB7F4wCI063212 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:04:58 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tB7F4wCI063212 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tB7F4wCI063212; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be host-4-75.office.adestra.com Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:03:36 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MbrKR09g29ug9AE9ONUEAt8sTAhfKRntg" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:05:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --MbrKR09g29ug9AE9ONUEAt8sTAhfKRntg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015/12/07 14:23, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2015-12-07 16:21 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Matalka : >> Paul Stuffins writes: >> >>> Hi Everybody, >>> >>> Over the last couple of years I have tried many times to dump Debian = and >>> move to FreeBSD, but every time I have succumbed to Debian's charms a= nd not >>> stuck with FreeBSD. >>> >>> One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I= just >>> need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have= never >>> been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. >>> >>> As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and sta= y with >>> FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of= >>> upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? >> Use 'pkg' instead. pkg update and pkg upgrade > pkg will update _packages_, not ports. =2E.. and a package is what you get by compiling a port. Yes, there is a= difference, but the two things are often conflated and it isn't worth muddying the waters by insisting on exactingly precise terminology from people new to FreeBSD. It is clear enough what they mean -- their aim is to get some software installed or upgraded. To the OP: try using pkg(8). You can use the default FreeBSD repositories pretty simply -- the config comes pre-canned with the system. All you need to do is bootstrap pkg(8), like so: # pkg bootstrap (Yes, you're using a command called 'pkg' to install another command called 'pkg'. Confusing, but if you read pkg(7) it explains the rational= e.) Now you can use pkg(8) to install software: # pkg install nginx which does what you expect -- downloads packages for nginx and everything nginx needs to be able to run and installs them. Unlike Debian, FreeBSD doesn't provide a pre-canned configuration or automatically start up the nginx service: you're expected to write your own nginx.conf and to update /etc/rc.conf to make nginx automatically start on reboots. You can upgrade anything that's out of date by: # pkg upgrade and you can remove a package you no-longer want by: # pkg delete nginx followed by: # pkg autoremove which will delete anything that was installed solely to allow nginx to work, and not also required by any other software you've installed since.= There's a lot more to pkg(8) than that short introduction, but really the install, upgrade and delete actions are enough to get you going. The biggest gotcha you will find with pkg(8) is when you need some software compiled with something other than the default set of port options. In which case, you'll probably want to start compiling that port yourself. But that's a question for another day. Cheers, Matthew --MbrKR09g29ug9AE9ONUEAt8sTAhfKRntg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWZZ/OXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnyc4P/i/8aHHQGOblsGTG+CoiyOBa Oe+LXDOG453D5ZYKmSUGJmnx5pof2znX/HR+0IyNLc5HS3R4ctR2CXi4I7BKVGj7 ZIYRqFt8U/Z0ExITyVwjMJwvXUr2MoLjme3NZudz2MJGAfxBEhK1u9hnHxzvgPrg kyIQOg3Rn1+O6nR3RGu8kAZVzkNm+J9eyDybIxCrcnqyOO+i3tmtGoY8C0owczH+ P71Cby2v4W1Jhz8CkaN10/7Xh32s9ark6Lw16YEs/VkhulJAWPnq9OJx/Ookl7pQ Jlj4owptX3vIS0c/8eVmMplNDGSu7Tn36c2QfN7cb5vN7eN8GwEyifRpAcF7MEBz axqicG35wnlkVIno+QgI31MEm94DsWSbtYAObUILeNwLlLGemXgna6wGONygIngx QyCk16zTE9fwLMSrq5eR12zxuPcTEZP1moFc8AA0qhNfOV9/LOgSIWl1gRWFF1Jg 7EqPg7St3A4QzIOHsTV9Vnh8LRXtQvtnScNkGHTR8tWoEZW+1pzaa1zJD7aSnaNz 9vznR2dEnIOsQ61zgBoUiBJDZzHlSgVZBGdrZUYl0i9r/GB8RyJ8iOenk1MgcsYq N7kKCYYuIq9Vh4mt51hVWiR+KVZ5s5cvdB2TtNmbyLqLdapdZZ4FDumRCFlp1Iyx 5fOc6VCuSkUFLkXAyPH9 =U8gc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MbrKR09g29ug9AE9ONUEAt8sTAhfKRntg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 15:09:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF4A9A0499 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FC3D1F27 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tB7F9pmn005840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:09:52 -0600 Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <5665A13F.4070105@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:15:21 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:09:54 -0000 On 12/07/15 08:28, Malcolm Matalka wrote: > Paul Stuffins writes: > >> Hi Everybody, >> >> Over the last couple of years I have tried many times to dump Debian and >> move to FreeBSD, but every time I have succumbed to Debian's charms and not >> stuck with FreeBSD. >> >> One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I just >> need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have never >> been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. >> >> As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and stay with >> FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of >> upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? > Use 'pkg' instead. pkg update and pkg upgrade > >> Many Thanks >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I hereby 2nd the motion on pkg, love it, use it almost exclusively (need libflash port, *nothing* else due to licensing issues). YMMV & all that rot, but give it a try. Usually *much* faster than recompiling everything from scratch, probably will work AOK unless you need/want some machine-specific optimizations. [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:15:16am] 716 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:15:16am] 716 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 15:10:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB16C9A055E for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 794061FE8; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so154856816wme.1; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:10:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=wtrW7GdV8LAKnQBG+w4z1+pcpGeud2Magtygbg6hNuk=; b=LOS5vMzkoAd7uYo0OIC5KUFEC0gDBpzS9bLMcB0rv6x3/vLOmd5CpdBn+jmlZHsvYK a0CpW6u8KiGItPn5bGsLSx/WFNBNm1Tv+PMjytxSrsnfRLmY9o6d5F8hgKZHSrWDg1Kq 7mKwSEsNiXk4Pw+g1BmUrvpdsbmDfFYDhsNiMmKu0pEvoew0bI49cKnrcS6AM1bsnW+U q9SBIL4+1dRgBcXdeek4hZ7nCBKTOTRmTnjkCpbCTNs0TVvwMrJ6xbSPQ8TICLPBsZyI gSp1H5GWZLQEA3XSWZkqJL/1iTDkKcK4Pll3ZFXSf500vlpipv5w2wcbW/qUE63yOkeS eC4Q== X-Received: by 10.28.226.86 with SMTP id z83mr23073707wmg.77.1449501020982; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:10:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:10:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:10:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:10:22 -0000 2015-12-07 17:03 GMT+02:00 Matthew Seaman : > ... and a package is what you get by compiling a port. Yes, there is a > difference, but the two things are often conflated and it isn't worth > muddying the waters by insisting on exactingly precise terminology from > people new to FreeBSD. It is clear enough what they mean -- their aim > is to get some software installed or upgraded. But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I agree, pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. 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I agree, > pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. I have not set up the system yet, so there is no worry about mixing ports and packages from the off. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 15:40:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8C99B942C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.stuffins@ravexdata.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7CE3177A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.stuffins@ravexdata.com) Received: by wmuu63 with SMTP id u63so145667283wmu.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:40:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ravexdata-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QqLSiorlAfhTGcXOfpHxdwDd3SURow56e11ts/686bY=; b=vnfTHMunPGSCLy5R01XcmTjHwf3DIYI9k5xnC1w2opBCP8+g0lKG8XZVf2WLx9NBdU t2Uxb4PnxqybA0rfg6rXUmo2FnXC+oPIAfrtsEO5IawFptF8Ij6K1jGwSgfm6OSIaURM 8ma8JohEs+LQRFBKJbDeYS3EH6Gly20GIaKG4SGcYIBW4P29I9zfHdJGcSh48uN53Sjc 5+sB+7FvNOlLK16D69rd2I7OE0BdvUP6O8tIa8fIGeyBigPbhEZ+JPZE0rtpJyIVL4TG Y3iwfvVazkZOAVVRRCnuY193ybOnQWtKxEZxkE/tq69Nb3sTW2F5RX5Hw6aF4QA+DGN7 TSdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QqLSiorlAfhTGcXOfpHxdwDd3SURow56e11ts/686bY=; b=YJtY++KBHxDbOSKBaswKUQYjZ1Fob3BWuAtdB15CbnmEBF3Ao00/8pGmiiP+9xalkp b5UIYi9H02+WTBbUwQ3lgL53R9xM3qos/jEgemDX7Cws22UtSSAZXELtH//K9xLAOFnW OzFeC2oN+7RBPLUxAokcWs8uVtGjshFe1DxfJBJHBHTAUQyO7pmjiH+alIJ3tAufFwRB VVwQ65e6G3WrEqkmbStH9WA6POVBZ/4QHdaWYfH/SyPycuIWUN7sxfuUJXu5hInbruSY 8z4eK2v6eqOTTKdNzqYYYkv+2wgR5mu9EncftQOsNkW/VwcofNsNsazuWU6nsKscLUyR 5aqA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl0iIvuzbHn5doRlvplRdsle7WgUBwZ6kCjoXHMTHAmU+zw19dd9FUHNEbygoSyW0SfNlAu X-Received: by 10.194.78.212 with SMTP id d20mr36658701wjx.70.1449502827453; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.34.1.6] ([104.238.169.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s11sm17307035wmb.14.2015.12.07.07.40.26 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:40:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> From: Paul Stuffins Message-ID: <5665A867.2090707@ravexdata.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:40:23 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:40:29 -0000 On 07/12/2015 15:03, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2015/12/07 14:23, Anton Sayetsky wrote: >> 2015-12-07 16:21 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Matalka : >>> Paul Stuffins writes: >>> >>>> Hi Everybody, >>>> >>>> Over the last couple of years I have tried many times to dump Debian and >>>> move to FreeBSD, but every time I have succumbed to Debian's charms and not >>>> stuck with FreeBSD. >>>> >>>> One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I just >>>> need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have never >>>> been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. >>>> >>>> As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and stay with >>>> FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of >>>> upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? >>> Use 'pkg' instead. pkg update and pkg upgrade >> pkg will update _packages_, not ports. > ... and a package is what you get by compiling a port. Yes, there is a > difference, but the two things are often conflated and it isn't worth > muddying the waters by insisting on exactingly precise terminology from > people new to FreeBSD. It is clear enough what they mean -- their aim > is to get some software installed or upgraded. > > To the OP: try using pkg(8). You can use the default FreeBSD > repositories pretty simply -- the config comes pre-canned with the > system. All you need to do is bootstrap pkg(8), like so: > > # pkg bootstrap > > (Yes, you're using a command called 'pkg' to install another command > called 'pkg'. Confusing, but if you read pkg(7) it explains the rationale.) > > Now you can use pkg(8) to install software: > > # pkg install nginx > > which does what you expect -- downloads packages for nginx and > everything nginx needs to be able to run and installs them. Unlike > Debian, FreeBSD doesn't provide a pre-canned configuration or > automatically start up the nginx service: you're expected to write your > own nginx.conf and to update /etc/rc.conf to make nginx automatically > start on reboots. > > You can upgrade anything that's out of date by: > > # pkg upgrade > > and you can remove a package you no-longer want by: > > # pkg delete nginx > > followed by: > > # pkg autoremove > > which will delete anything that was installed solely to allow nginx to > work, and not also required by any other software you've installed since. > > There's a lot more to pkg(8) than that short introduction, but really > the install, upgrade and delete actions are enough to get you going. > > The biggest gotcha you will find with pkg(8) is when you need some > software compiled with something other than the default set of port > options. In which case, you'll probably want to start compiling that > port yourself. But that's a question for another day. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > Hi Matthew, Thanks for the explanation, I will have a look at using pkg. Thanks Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 15:44:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDD99B996B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC2D1B10 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0664533C27; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:35:43 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 10:35:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Anton Sayetsky's message of "Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:10:00 +0200") Message-ID: <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:44:06 -0000 Anton Sayetsky writes: > 2015-12-07 17:03 GMT+02:00 Matthew Seaman : >> ... and a package is what you get by compiling a port. Yes, there is a >> difference, but the two things are often conflated and it isn't worth >> muddying the waters by insisting on exactingly precise terminology from >> people new to FreeBSD. It is clear enough what they mean -- their aim >> is to get some software installed or upgraded. > But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I agree, > pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 15:49:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A436A9B9DD0 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 445C31CA8 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by wmuu63 with SMTP id u63so146027971wmu.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:49:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=i1yTGDTRHQKHJnNWbAaFHdSs/YqZ6g2aUbfv4+KT1gg=; b=aOfCHuc2wKC5NrUsKXFypSsYQbtHoKktq+RgSJRnGyA2LjApfmAZMaJnA2/ZsW0Yfk 3fPCr2rEkmDDFWHM32Gtu7C2LSVWc1VnPdsbrqeLf1USl1CDGdB8jwqRJ6JY1rpvczx+ Zp/0/Mn7Zm1HgsN3mMn2dL8E5kbw1PczVr/bN2+tGDsw612OiNM/6+MNzDk1Czt6tF8N FfbJDa90zVOo97HIML6tFUAxw3whTsMlWBJv8N/2LyJFOtTqyiUGqnDsY1ijpYCl+isz ogOxohKTYzFvaGL6b77tnkZD0KToAAakiOU1dM/clBGwr2uO2dwZSNz2zOQ747txj1ps /NoA== X-Received: by 10.28.32.22 with SMTP id g22mr20854804wmg.43.1449503361838; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:49:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:49:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:49:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:49:23 -0000 2015-12-07 17:35 GMT+02:00 Lowell Gilbert : > That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. It it not true. Try to buid emulators/virtualbox-ose without QT4 option on a server and then run pkg upgrade ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 15:54:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41AC9B73ED for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86931105D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so155878996wmw.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:54:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YIog7HRPwHh52YbltPqjBIT8/z2WKMyz5Vi3AdsQQlM=; b=v7Qy5seI2A2p21hTms5dVzmqf1+z5nebZIaxAPOKfvinjTqZeUrEXbErnv4PBCTSPX +AwUqK3sOmaHdbSC5hOw0VHErk5J7EG6SRV17uzUAi4LsHbFn7uLH6DTV2fNkxCTYwdc TtkWCimgCcG4Lq00z3zuyM0mzkVSBnQVEJVLdm576onKuSHJ4ztUG/93olEHfHcpG0FH 3VTSWOU6Qq9AwqnpqW6LfA88ZBtPZ9ZEcDMPxmNXQDKnlg7m0v0AZUZX033BZJYzzlqq 1KbYrw4C3L00+uvyu2ssCn8mUHX2xsxvrBaFe5Wf3JbQOoD6SbjjrhmESq3qMm4knu1w PvKA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.9.169 with SMTP id a9mr33560122wjb.60.1449503657876; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:54:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:54:17 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian From: Adam Vande More To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:54:20 -0000 On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2015-12-07 17:35 GMT+02:00 Lowell Gilbert > : > > That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. > > It it not true. Yes it is. > Try to buid emulators/virtualbox-ose without QT4 > option on a server and then run pkg upgrade ;-) > If you have found a bug please file it. Ports and pkg's should co-exist peacefully with the understanding mixing the two requires more administration. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 15:59:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821749B7851 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 210B01246 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so156077495wmw.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:59:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=GadryAdZpwBVb/tIBDmxcTwmC14gHjyI0idVO3puAj8=; b=dBx52X5LeVd27hPKQSdkOeCkf03JlsWy9B9Y1yxfXY5owUt4NYTUW7olux0mcBn2tT GIHoeSFQyWENsjnGOBQpZTnuNQc22vCImgUfWuWDo5mpwEyJ1vRh7FUbRaMJxSe4XsH5 go9kAVt7gjse+FMmHm2xsQ8bRMVG8XliCJ1ZdlI+zm9HncXaimf6ZDmHlGgdxRKAIdyZ CIo67WNQFjMRH7dl3/fghpVL3ljuNWiauIxYtoC3osZUTzqwXuwoJr+qUMIabsb4hOpo 3NqmQWHDDuD7SQx4jmZMSE9ql6v6QrAF22+BTFTUKgXWiavD6Zw5O294bJ6G+MBkQwgK t5zQ== X-Received: by 10.194.174.201 with SMTP id bu9mr23819518wjc.81.1449503949405; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:59:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:58:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:58:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: Adam Vande More Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:59:11 -0000 2015-12-07 17:54 GMT+02:00 Adam Vande More : > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: >> >> 2015-12-07 17:35 GMT+02:00 Lowell Gilbert >> : >> > That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. > > >> >> It it not true. > > > Yes it is. Again - no, I don't agree. And this will be a big issue until pkg repos will contain packages with all possible options combinations. > >> >> Try to buid emulators/virtualbox-ose without QT4 >> option on a server and then run pkg upgrade ;-) > > > If you have found a bug please file it. Ports and pkg's should co-exist > peacefully with the understanding mixing the two requires more > administration. There are no any bugs, you'll just get a bunch of crapware on a server, like qt4-gui. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:01:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05F39B7C56 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B08214E3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from host-4-75.office.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tB7G11Vn064364 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:01:01 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tB7G11Vn064364 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tB7G11Vn064364; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be host-4-75.office.adestra.com Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5665AD3D.2020207@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:01:01 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PvuCx36VN5NExePWqCapL97CCJKFODcoW" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:01:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --PvuCx36VN5NExePWqCapL97CCJKFODcoW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015/12/07 15:49, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2015-12-07 17:35 GMT+02:00 Lowell Gilbert > : >> > That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. > It it not true. Try to buid emulators/virtualbox-ose without QT4 > option on a server and then run pkg upgrade ;-) Using a mixture of portmaster and pre-compiled packages is hard to get right. Mostly because of lack of love for portmaster(8) and adapting it to understand how things work in a pkg(8) universe. Mixing packages built in your own poudriere with the default package repos is easier, but still has some rough spots. This is something that is known to be a weak point, and a lot of the trouble is due to the 'baked in' dependencies on specific package versions we have at the moment. There is code to work with alternate packages or ranges of versions in pkg(8), but it's a huge change to the ports to introduce something like that, so they are taking it slowly and carefully. Cheers, Matthew --PvuCx36VN5NExePWqCapL97CCJKFODcoW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWZa09XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnxVgQAIzCWkP5Yyz5WAbONNuTbMVi TP4gfleb8s58fCTWdXU/ffGI9knjc1bRZQEUQE+uHWSf0+IEZCBkps5bwV2zfSE7 hJkk28Ib7pODMw8XB0t2AQVJbFNrM5Y39XrZTks0oXTiEdIFPMIGX3PTUH7ztVHB PYNaeauSbOPo1VoXGgcxQb34YnWK76lWUUQpUxsXIOzMFlP1Gos638mdbGme8F/Y dSZdPncGMobFYEigpFyk3nWVrA4Dex4WmTR3WnjCieFYcaoV7KqIJOKkZ74IBEmD aTqmG07zNvoPmf5kwHVcziCQHxOHS87c714VQ65pT1jfwXDvo0zEcWnzyB9qMXxO /xKhVHqeDUqUrT9Rd7wym/3MnOQg9RYbpFVu8ZeFW9ptqpMmE0LxajWV1j0UXCS7 mXyJZjE8/j1WjgDoLo/septoF11ENlxs4dRYtmlnFESW8ZIzunyYmzjNWkcOcC4A FMZeRL+rNVQbfugZQj5Jgaf5gR1y4fRSaLvyyv5wicTfM6WRRc6WEGYFudL8DcIO p6FtNAJCQFcntpFlHgmILmP0x0oDZEZQCnT9XD5jfEbx7blMd/UKP39jGNEf5Dv6 0aiEhbqJH0GIRx0SozWISD07Xi46pPiJ952DVUXwS4MKE81vF4g485UhMKVdJfev 8wmxZyZ6gjhvIDenSGXE =dZme -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PvuCx36VN5NExePWqCapL97CCJKFODcoW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:05:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CE29A0339 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7EC1A37 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from sas1.nber.org (sas1.nber.org [198.71.6.89]) by mail2.nber.org (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id tB7FsKiA024490 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:54:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:54:18 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian In-Reply-To: <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (LRH 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, disabled by settings X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: not scanned X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2015/12/07 11:24:07 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.721, bases: 2015/12/07 01:27:00 #6698250 X-KLMS-AntiVirus-Status: Clean, skipped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:05:38 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2015, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I agree, >> pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. > > That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. What does the warning mean? That once I have installed a single package I can never use ports? So if I want a port, and already have packages, I have to uninstall all of the packages first and can never in the future install any package? That seems extreme. Or is there a less restrictive interpretation that is more correct? daniel feenberg NBER From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:10:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBD09A099E for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B487514B7 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:10:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a5yMT-000DYc-Aj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:10:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:09:59 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Message-Id: <20151207160959.4b2fc514cf0ef30bc1e1ee51@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:10:22 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:58:50 +0200 Anton Sayetsky wrote: > Again - no, I don't agree. And this will be a big issue until pkg > repos will contain packages with all possible options combinations. That is clearly impossibly to achieve, I doubt even the NSA can afford that much storage and processing power. > >> Try to buid emulators/virtualbox-ose without QT4 > >> option on a server and then run pkg upgrade ;-) Did you first use pkg lock to protect your carefully built variants from the upgrade ? -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:12:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD20E9A0E1F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59C111A38 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from host-4-75.office.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tB7GCo4U064606 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:51 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tB7GCo4U064606 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tB7GCo4U064606; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be host-4-75.office.adestra.com Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5665AFFB.9070407@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:43 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2pkQBVAcM9t2fJcqCvsnAsl1qToLcOvrx" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:12:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2pkQBVAcM9t2fJcqCvsnAsl1qToLcOvrx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015/12/07 15:54, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > What does the warning mean? That once I have installed a single package= > I can never use ports? So if I want a port, and already have packages, = I > have to uninstall all of the packages first and can never in the future= > install any package? That seems extreme. Or is there a less restrictive= > interpretation that is more correct? Usually the reason for mixing ports and packages is because you want something compiled with non-default options. The difficulty arises when you find that despite all your best intentions, you end up with the default package anyhow, or you end up installing all the dependencies for the default package and not the ones for your customized version, or you end up installing a lot of build dependency things you didn't really want. And then when you go to upgrade, it breaks all over again in similar but not exactly the same way= s. It's loss of control which is the problem. You may be lucky in that it 'just works' with your customizations, or it may become a nightmare of dependency hell from which all right-thinking sysadmins would run away, screaming. Cheers, Matthew --2pkQBVAcM9t2fJcqCvsnAsl1qToLcOvrx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWZbACXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnNkwQAIQBN6r3FIGFrGzU50HYTLAJ m4LS0JETCRvIVTFFKLBLEq2QzjJGe4a1mhi6rIf+P0XruuYpOr0uarBbmAEu10fM 9WQpQuoKoaX7f19YKi7Qr7nVl7XXu10DeydYHNWoIvSQ3glLdSMzV8pVdC56dW+k faWNGUB/ffVFFhDccP6PWpCMHe6UvacNMR8QBReh6SLJecxzwcgUH+HYiWe15rwI ZZgrHFLnmZAz0M1txJeSlwbU01oBJCHg+yCHXTmiK6FfXDxV13S/rsj/jZnoExCX 7cwkZTesOFUqEKGmhGfXxsPfyNh2WETUvsCLn/OmLRn6l8QIgonUJywfbX6a14H1 MXiTOu67Y9/0KbB8HvG2OzQw4jPSj2QTr9rYuDuUFjZDoh7i6RTXzC0xONAvDMIq rHDsqsi4WHfd7USTcIn5ElqBFuLcua2SYZy0W//nXxdv9NY0lSIzcuE73kkd/0ZX doGERTL5GP05hp4Gvkp/f7t8i7NlJvAQWQvOYq3LqzZKDH84HEdoxPNf3nOOWW1l NcMCla3CCh/12s40OsvZqrXYOVpmM4uf4ZxzuUbNuk39YA/PFXJm35xHvnI9nH7U PBsR9MnWxIBiP+vC4ryr5EZurRSZZI9y1Un+ZMRTYoEZiO5wwIgZ743S+u1SA5X/ SPc8b/g2f39T4w+Ki00R =+1qN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2pkQBVAcM9t2fJcqCvsnAsl1qToLcOvrx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:13:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887FF9A0F1A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 399761B07 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c8a2912a; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:13:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 13f3987d TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:13:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449504826.1126.13.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Daniel Feenberg , Lowell Gilbert Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:13:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:13:50 -0000 On Mon, 2015-12-07 at 10:54 -0500, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Dec 2015, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > > > But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I > > > agree, > > > pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. > > > > That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. > > What does the warning mean? That once I have installed a single > package I > can never use ports? So if I want a port, and already have packages, > I > have to uninstall all of the packages first and can never in the > future > install any package? That seems extreme. Or is there a less > restrictive > interpretation that is more correct? > > daniel feenberg > NBER You can use them together, but you have to pay attention to make sure that ports have options that are compatible with the options used to create packages. Conversely you need to make sure that pkg doesn't update a port with custom options back to a new package with the default ones. Further it is important that the ports tree and the one that packages are built off of stay in sync. It can be done (with pkg lock, and the quartery ports branch), but it tends to be fragile. For mixing in more than a handful of ports, using poudriere (a personal repo builder) is usually better choice (esp. if you have multiple systems). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:16:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C149B91E6 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15DC91C96 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tB7GGO1L003761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:16:25 -0600 Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <5665B0D8.5050300@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:21:54 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:16:27 -0000 On 12/07/15 10:00, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 Dec 2015, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>> But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I agree, >>> pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. >> >> That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. > > What does the warning mean? That once I have installed a single > package I can never use ports? So if I want a port, and already have > packages, I have to uninstall all of the packages first and can never > in the future install any package? That seems extreme. Or is there a > less restrictive interpretation that is more correct? > > daniel feenberg > NBER > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > My 1st hand experience has been that the last one wins. If you install a port, then do a pkg upgrade on that port/pkg *& a newer pkg exists*, it will overwrite your handiwork using ports, Same thing other way, AFAIK. In my case, I use portmaster to maintain libflash support for browsers, & there is no pkg available due to licensing issues, so I am OK. But you can wind up w/ unexpected results, mostly 'last one wins' overwrites if you aren't paying attention to what you are doing. Go w/ pkg & use ports when necessary or needed for machine-specific optimizations (for example). $0.02, no more, no less .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:18:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87AC9B9417 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markhamb@corp.ssimicro.com) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74CE71D86 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markhamb@corp.ssimicro.com) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id tB7Fu3cX002092 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:56:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: OSS in jail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> From: markham breitbach Message-ID: <5665ACA7.80104@corp.ssimicro.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:58:31 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:18:08 -0000 This is not a technical problem, and any technical solution will turn into a giant Rube-Goldberg contraption that will ultimately fail. Why are you giving out superuser permissions if you wish to restrict the activities of your users? The right answer to this is to not give out superuser permission. -Markham On 2015-12-06 12:44 PM, Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: > Hi, > > I would like one of my jails to have the ability to play back sound, > but not to record it. As I understand, sound is played back by writing > to /dev/dsp and recorded by reading from it. Hence, placing the /dev/dsp > device (and /dev/dsp[0-9]* devices) in the jail via devfs.rules is not > a solution since the jail superuser can override permissions on these > devices and even read from them when they lack read permission. > > Is there a way to give a device to a jail in read-only mode? > If not, is it possible to create a virtual OSS stack and give that to > the jail? > How would you solve this problem? > > Also, is it possible to give the jail a mixer device that can only read > mixer settings but not alter them? > > Thanks, > Luís > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:27:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8149B9D79 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 709B01324 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2c671750; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 4d7b1194 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:26:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449505618.1126.19.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: OSS in jail From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: markham breitbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:26:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <5665ACA7.80104@corp.ssimicro.com> References: <20151206194401.GA3860@hpmini> <5665ACA7.80104@corp.ssimicro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:27:02 -0000 On Mon, 2015-12-07 at 08:58 -0700, markham breitbach wrote: > > This is not a technical problem, and any technical solution will turn > into a giant Rube-Goldberg contraption that will ultimately fail. Semantics. It is possible to solve some policy problems with technological solutions, jails themselves are proof of this. > > Why are you giving out superuser permissions if you wish to restrict > the > activities of your users? > > The right answer to this is to not give out superuser permission. It is entirely possible to parsel out superuser permissions, sudo, jail, and capsicum are all ways to give out slivers of superuser permissions. The problem is *hard* not *impossible*. > > -Markham > > On 2015-12-06 12:44 PM, Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like one of my jails to have the ability to play back > > sound, > > but not to record it. As I understand, sound is played back by > > writing > > to /dev/dsp and recorded by reading from it. Hence, placing the > > /dev/dsp > > device (and /dev/dsp[0-9]* devices) in the jail via devfs.rules is > > not > > a solution since the jail superuser can override permissions on > > these > > devices and even read from them when they lack read permission. > > > > Is there a way to give a device to a jail in read-only mode? > > If not, is it possible to create a virtual OSS stack and give that > > to > > the jail? > > How would you solve this problem? > > > > Also, is it possible to give the jail a mixer device that can only > > read > > mixer settings but not alter them? > > > > Thanks, > > Luís > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@fre > > ebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb > sd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:41:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131679C1907 for ; 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BLUPR03MB1492; 24:le0dHMzRWdTfVcZUOpwMjKhtP8vsqSs+TiT3pjn92bxeF0kZ3/8fZ0CzL/U+BvC4ur/f94dodDRZjLmwQiWLgq/7l1m44um0PKZzZjLaqoI= SpamDiagnosticOutput: 1:23 SpamDiagnosticMetadata: NSPM X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2015 16:40:55.6238 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR03MB1492 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:41:05 -0000 On 2015.12.07 09:54, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 Dec 2015, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>> But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I agree, >>> pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. >> >> That's gradually become a much smaller issue than it used to be. > > What does the warning mean? That once I have installed a single package I > can never use ports? So if I want a port, and already have packages, I > have to uninstall all of the packages first and can never in the future > install any package? That seems extreme. Or is there a less restrictive > interpretation that is more correct? It has to do with mixing trees. Everything is packages, and packages come from ports. If you get packages from the official repo, and then download the ports tree and build and install your own, some packages won't play nice with each other because they aren't from the same point in time (your copy of the tree is a little bit newer than the one used by the official repo at the time). pkg will detect most issues, but it can't generally fix them. It is possible to be in sync with the official repo, but doing so is more complicated and requires more hands-on attention. Trying to use the official repo and then mix in a few of your own here and there is almost always more effort and trouble than it's worth. Ultimately, you have 3 options: 1. Use the official repo. This is the simplest and easiest. You never have to compile anything or know how ports works and upgrades are easy. This also scales to many machines easily. The downside is that you have limited flexibility - no custom options and you can't change the default versions for things such as Python, Perl, PHP, Apache, et al.. You also don't get updates as soon as they're committed, but the time between updates is only about a few days. 2. Use ports tools directly (or a wrapper such as Portmaster) and compile packages yourself. This is a little more work, but you get custom options for your packages (and you can have your own custom modifications to the ports tree). You can have new versions of packages within minutes of the changes being committed to the tree (depending on how long it takes to compile). However, you will have to compile everything and sharing these packages is crude and possibly a bit error-prone because your environment is not 100% clean. This doesn't scale well unless you build your own tooling to make it so. Otherwise, you will have to compile everything you want on each individual machine, and you will have to do some scripting to make your custom options consistent across them. 3. Use Poudriere. This is essentially tooling to make #2 scale well. Once you have packages built, it creates a repo, making them very easy to share. On your other machines, you point them to your own repo instead of the official one. They will all have the custom options and modifications you want, but you compile once on one machine. Poudriere builds every package in a clean environment using jails to help keep things consistent and less complicated when there are issues. I recommend #1 unless you have a compelling reason not to ("oh no, 100MB of disk space is used up by a package I don't use" isn't one). If you really need custom options (because you need something to get work done), then I recommend #3. In any case, pick one and do that. If you want to switch from one approach to another, reinstall all packages using the new approach. As Matthew alluded to, things are being worked on to make options 2 and 3 less necessary for most people, but there is still much work to be done in ports and in pkg, and it will take a while to get it all done right. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:50:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058DD9B71F3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761C01365 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:50:12 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a5yzM-000Dhq-Nw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:50:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:50:10 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Message-Id: <20151207165010.448a646c78be7d75acaf9f5d@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <5665AFFB.9070407@FreeBSD.org> References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <5665AFFB.9070407@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:50:28 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:43 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2015/12/07 15:54, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > What does the warning mean? That once I have installed a single package > > I can never use ports? So if I want a port, and already have packages, I > > have to uninstall all of the packages first and can never in the future > > install any package? That seems extreme. Or is there a less restrictive > > interpretation that is more correct? > > Usually the reason for mixing ports and packages is because you want > something compiled with non-default options. > > The difficulty arises when you find that despite all your best > intentions, you end up with the default package anyhow, or you end up > installing all the dependencies for the default package and not the ones > for your customized version, or you end up installing a lot of build > dependency things you didn't really want. And then when you go to > upgrade, it breaks all over again in similar but not exactly the same > ways. pkg lock and make missing are your friends. First step after deciding a port is a must is to go into the port and make config to set things up the way you want. Then run make missing and pkg add as much as possible (this to avoid excessive compiling). Finally pkg lock everything you had to build because you changed it. > It's loss of control which is the problem. You may be lucky in that it > 'just works' with your customizations, or it may become a nightmare of > dependency hell from which all right-thinking sysadmins would run away, > screaming. You do need to keep the ports and packages you use in reasonably close sync - ideally use the ports tree the packages are built from. So when you upgrade packages also upgrade the ports tree and rebuild the ports. There is a script called sync-ports which pulls the right ports tree - although the version I have doesn't handle 10.2. The only time life gets nasty is if you have to customise a dependency and something else can't live with that customisation. I've not hit that yet, so far all my needed customisations have been on high level packages. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 17:21:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8989C1031 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7BD129A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AACA22900155; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:20:58 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449508862; bh=YAYgfXCqIt8h8QOPFZRXZwMhelBCK/8vKnhsNTFMoPA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Csnhq72wWOn1hrhiV6bcZohkDj3QEFJfhZ8EII8W+SzzyFscOn2w7JEpGHFGBH7h+ Bu1HH1NSy+tM6dz67/4n/he5onYsub0CaY+s7IX5iPtP6qvVYmYiNKJOtZtbFRqfPi H/2SFO5SJhbxQ892kUa65stAtvOQHskfyf6W2K7Y= Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:22:39 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: Ian Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS in jail Message-ID: <20151207172239.GC873@hpmini> References: <20151207234938.F52001@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151207234938.F52001@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:21:04 -0000 Thanks for the suggestion. I will post it in those lists. On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 12:04:26AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 601, Issue 1, Message: 4 > On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:44:01 -0200 > Lu?s Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: > > > I would like one of my jails to have the ability to play back sound, > > but not to record it. As I understand, sound is played back by writing > > to /dev/dsp and recorded by reading from it. Hence, placing the /dev/dsp > > device (and /dev/dsp[0-9]* devices) in the jail via devfs.rules is not > > a solution since the jail superuser can override permissions on these > > devices and even read from them when they lack read permission. > > > > Is there a way to give a device to a jail in read-only mode? > > If not, is it possible to create a virtual OSS stack and give that to > > the jail? > > How would you solve this problem? > > > > Also, is it possible to give the jail a mixer device that can only read > > mixer settings but not alter them? > > > > Thanks, > > Lu?s > > Sorry about charset mapping .. > > I suggest asking this (interesting) question in either or both of > freebsd-jail@freebsd.org and freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org . > > I'm vaguely wondering if you could use port audio/jack for this, but > I've only used that on Linux, and that with ALSA .. but I expect you > should find some help from the habitual denizens of those lists. > > cheers, Ian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 19:11:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A4C9C1EA2 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EC17105F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tB7JBS1u046877 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:11:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tB7JBSuo046874; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:11:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:11:28 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Stephen Cook cc: Paul Stuffins , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian In-Reply-To: <5665A42C.8090500@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <5665A42C.8090500@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:11:28 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:11:31 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2015, Stephen Cook wrote: > On 12/7/2015 9:13 AM, Paul Stuffins wrote: > >> One of my main frustrations is upgrading installed ports, on Debian I just >> need to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", but I have never >> been able to work out how to upgrade installed ports. > > > portmaster -a Only after reading the newest entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING and doing those first. Always, always read that first. Here is a complete overview of updating ports: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 19:18:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45B59D26EB for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pallav_bose@yahoo.com) Received: from nm44-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm44-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.215]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE1161A40 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pallav_bose@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1449515758; bh=JCLFujSz/dPoX1R03eSkXOR7z6keHuFndH2bFReQQ8s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=nhtBgTzSs74HjT5u5EKNd6upl/L7Of/hJti9AR6dehwGpAxKwwt18z+8PQeMhViauNm0dXupDBWhPAu60jJh6IE33Ty1i4h9im9sUr6CTyoT9IgVxDRd4LXYCuIk/sr8K2vFf5y3wofXYiGBCpvH3t08i7i5pZbMUw3RA1W8ad8mFbtvsk9ht7IZDNfanT3hVmwnrA1yFtUyCieH3fGamOkmoBbCYuBhBdXa3LvgEjmNQpF16gCDq49VdZKgB+6xO71QXYQ27bB0Zkk1CopIiEXOZoESaMuth3RtBZZ+JPmCw9brimaIDaIKbIrz75E6g4E5KY2jVVPqtqVa1fEZjA== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm44.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 19:15:58 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.59] by nm44.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 19:12:57 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.193] by tm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 19:12:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 19:12:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 260623.80430.bm@omp1001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: Fe5_VqMVM1m_lNPCpw5ig8erHdW3yZ20Oj4InjK1TmVu9FyswL3jkH9ysP7raQl f1WN2Vjbd3mJcXXJ7zDu3H26Lm8q8wKhFVVI3aBpLbKHHxCefu4vQOmPjHtTvdeWpZ6rORRHvEWG X29sBnGmvWQ9CWiS4cySZOfthdPa.Bica5onhhXpMvs5iJdfyd8Rer43AFq3XVNaB2q0fISGgywD IGvI9ck6BNRuQ7rldUurT669BrWM51NY4E0FJ1Taik99CnvkLJXN_Cwnz1lO701xSyO8MGAsx0SO 3TZ9uOISaG6oAZj3bt.tK6omfSkzZokLj9pk8pzCQIkLYDT2UPFLoHMnFi80Bdxbe0C_TfCkoCtP c.jqXgFZLccK74ThptYd_3CtBui3KAyBmfLpOxL7CLXY3cmIxeN7hMLgAJEIGUFXhF8KIFSg41XM r4qkQpGUd5PbbwliyhqluJdCl_7eADD6RWD3kRgMqFcyQYb0Zk1HbzUQVoc8mU5qYFBnijD61JMQ Y9FMWhB3LLVev5x2CMjlTPA-- Received: by 216.39.60.209; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:12:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:12:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Pallav Bose Reply-To: Pallav Bose To: Polytropon Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <1898250304.15775171.1449515575563.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20151205012052.77256a47.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20151205012052.77256a47.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: Meaning behind target ID in the output of camcontrol and MegaCli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:18:40 -0000 Thank you for replying, Polytropon. Given that my setup has exactly one LUN= per target, the mapping from MegaCli to camcontrol - [adapter,slot,target = ID] =3D> [adapter,target ID,device name] is accurate? And device enumeratio= n is stored in the RAID controllers' firmware?=C2=A0Regards,Pallav=20 On Friday, December 4, 2015 4:20 PM, Polytropon wrot= e: =20 On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 22:29:28 +0000 (UTC), Pallav Bose via freebsd-questions= wrote: > My understanding is that the target ID links a disk in a particular > slot on a particular adapter to its device name. This can be gathered > from the MegaCli configuration output above and the camcontrol output > below. MegaCli gives us the 3-tuple [adapter,slot,target ID] and > camcontrol gives us the 3-tuple [adapter,target ID,device name]. So, > I now know what device name does a physical disk (configured as a > RAID 0) in a particular slot on a particular adapter map to. The numbering B:T:L (or B:T:U) is typical regarding how SCSI enumerates devices. B is the bus number, T the target number (the device on that bus), and L is the LUN (logical unit number) depending on the device, which can have more than one "unit" (slot, drive, whatever). In ye olden times one SCSI bus could have up to 8 devices, numbered 0 - 6, and 7 being the controller itself. The number of a device ("target") usually was configured via jumpers on that device. Today, ATA and SATA, as well as other mass storage means, have adopted CAM ("SCSI language"), so some terminology is still being used. But device enumeration isn't coded in hardware anymore. Modern SCSI BIOSs typically do that in firmware. See this for example: % camcontrol devlist =C2=A0 =C2=A0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass= 0,cd0) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 at scbus3 target 0 lu= n 0 (da0,pass1) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 at scbus3 target 0 lun 1 = (da1,pass2) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 at scbus3 target 0 lu= n 2 (da2,pass3) As you can see, there are a bus 0 and bus 3, each with only one device, but target 3:0 has three LUNs. In your case, it's a lot easier: > # camcontrol devlist > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2,da2) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (pass3,da3) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass4,da4) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 (pass5,da5) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass6,da6) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 7 lun 0 (pass7,da7) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 8 lun 0 (pass8,da8) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 9 lun 0 (pass9,da9) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 10 lun 0 (pass10,da10) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 11 lun 0 (pass11,da11) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 12 lun 0 (pass12,da12) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 13 lun 0 (pass13,da13) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 at scbus0 target 14 lun 0 (pass14,da14) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass15,da15) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 at scbus2 target 1 lun 0 (pass16,da16) > =C2=A0=C2=A0 at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (da= 17,pass17) Bus 0 with 15 targets, each with one LUN, and bus 2 with two of them. They represent two "SCSI adapters", each one representing a disk as a _single_ target (with one LUN). It could have been a different setup, for example, one target per four disks with LUNs 0 - 3... --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 19:21:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB849D2BF5 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.senn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x229.google.com (mail-qk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 587BB1FBE for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.senn@gmail.com) Received: by qkdb5 with SMTP id b5so37614320qkd.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:21:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IXucdrNkaOaKzJs4p4Wla5xJanQLkWxBAHDFM6cvEDY=; b=p9qgdVZud+GYST60t+uBmFauwQz6p9+F60gGkQU8ysrWmjOQc+qiJ8E0H1WV8lED6S GMlahkoiIuEoS9bItoecVsoxyoOMeFcgGNsQbZKbo3LstNtoZjHYk6ScUM2mkoaD9q9u Su+rqJ88ADSstnzaY91UhuWoIjHxceYpWLq+GsdF3GtejlvlIo/D3a0uKH8/mhF1Hz/8 5p0ftCXLWPLFpp9f7glXwJ0sFq2Otz8kvU61P2tY8hXOWU3sSi/HNxdofchhc6C8FN2P j3n/v1AksOiR/16nfDfCOHmfcfXoBCIQMWRHSjUpIhCcQWIPDddkEktD277tDoCO2mpM sc7g== X-Received: by 10.129.153.148 with SMTP id q142mr23065194ywg.260.1449516076203; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] ([206.251.219.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i204sm19805912ywb.9.2015.12.07.11.21.15 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:21:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <5665A68C.40007@ravexdata.com> From: Will Senn Message-ID: <5665DC2A.4070801@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:21:14 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5665A68C.40007@ravexdata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:21:17 -0000 On 12/7/15 9:32 AM, Paul Stuffins wrote: >> But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I agree, >> pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. > I have not set up the system yet, so there is no worry about mixing > ports and packages from the off. As a fellow Debian user turned FreeBSD user, I just use pkg unless I need something exotic. In my view, pkg serves the same basic function and it's even simpler to use than apt-get (hard to believe, I know). I have to admit that both Debian's flavor of Linux and FreeBSD are similar in terms capability and of being rock solid, but I truly appreciate FreeBSD's approach to documentation and community over Debian's. This combined with an operating system that is more coherent that most of the Linuxes out there, even Debian (a significant userland is part of the OS as opposed to separately packaged) has made the experience of switching a very positive one, but not a painless one (printing, in particular was challenging). -will From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 21:13:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9F99C110A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BEDE18BC for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MdFwl-1Zoei93sId-00IVfJ for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:13:54 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:13:53 +0100 Message-ID: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:zWsxkl95Vzq6UvqOXoXMDDItxZtF/XUcWssmSvt1sm5SmvtFX1T 0XX+iK9piiyBUzjNPdbLvTTbZ/ioDN+UlszWIk0WT+rPm/gD8tpYJtOIYKKjq+0wi9hs+md f3hCQOVzmYuCsqQtUkI45grwBmfWCiqH6hpz9s/48HDVMB3Nq9dbhwHvBU8nvdShXspjenD GRic2pZBzY05oTHYapRPQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:vrImZ1eVIKQ=:y1ooPaoW2306RZ762qIKlc oz9Shp/N8NCDUhtxdKeRd/xLF2w52pPX/7xeK+yPBRN1E13rx0LIVkVbOsUU61Kxk83iu9NKu EyjTjXvVGRRV1cCoJSJuvSZkFTytCNOsbgJl/w+FTNLtTCcIWEfhqxR5eOFd7ohV+ECEAXuJU 86/ctkBt+kQn6DHIGUt/O26DBa9PwnAIJaDYMEwUHy05G19AVioiYwGCcbtATZXCw/XVFEXfn YsEIvR+i1cu5+bNpWQ+mI9rNIuanC9WMZJYax0KnORAs8Gb2cTQm4pVmVDcET9NadixCFLIOW RdtePqDG+0fSN6M2uWl2CrUvVrbM+0FeVAvCbO0mq9nUQxGrYB4QK4nruB7M7mSW+bcj/u5/y c4LrvPxoE0X287LJ/q3C2c+ebfJdghUEWZbsT3xr2UkHZ7nmvK2FkBWj7LMmqn8ixUVXBEHU/ ZYMHUpxvVeNHeeVXh2HPF30v9dmgAVnHX07TfaQDOK7ZehuIk8g1Mqty+zeXE5AaYcfdXq5L2 mOVsB3ioQGPlMRZNG33E5huPsQ34Lc4I7XLJ+PyjsVi4pz2A2D7UhjAGdHIPWwaNG+++Q8AIz g+Z7OEFKEvW6JkP8DwAQpiMOg9DIDy09BhvYyJeEUf/TMUHaQDcUrXoWkswDXS6dIOsl4AJSk C58GZMDXP/4FPahH6jUsGW6aFktqLd/EFAaGOBXOvsghZ4oUJTkFyxNyOI/WXGKKooWNLg16B Q2KH5wURSJZYzEKcOd3QKVQUyV/NcRuDuz6dOgkbP2wbvSJQwE43Juf0G41WIY30WncAuMd22 dBVitpm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:13:58 -0000 Hi, what command-line tool could you recommend if you were in the need to synchronize a complete directory hierarchy from your local system to a remote server via SFTP? In the past, I was always able to use tools like cpdup or rsync for this kind of job, but this time SFTP is the only game in town. :-( I actually had a hard time finding anything useful. The only thing that came up so far is https://www.csync.org, which compiles fine on FreeBSD and does exactly what I need. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to exist a port yet. There's net/csync2, but that's completely unrelated to www.csync.org. So before I go and create a new port for csync, is there anything similar already available in the ports? Thanks. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 22:13:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED789C1AD1 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9EC01199 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.109] (cm-84.210.87.28.getinternet.no [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7437F8B6; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13B143) In-Reply-To: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:13:34 +0100 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> To: Patrick Hess X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:13:46 -0000 > On 07 Dec 2015, at 22:13, Patrick Hess wrote: >=20 > So before I go and create a new port for csync, is there anything > similar already available in the ports? What about combining things? You could mount the sftp locally (sshfs, fuse?), and then use rsync as if wi= th two local dirs? (If that will be efficient depends a lot on your workload) Terje= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 22:19:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE599D3038 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-1.ln-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com [105.28.96.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46B991382 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=Mark-Tinkas-MacBook.local) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id NZ0DK6-0001M1-CQ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:09:42 +0200 Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: Stephen Cook , Paul Stuffins , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5665A42C.8090500@gmail.com> From: Mark Tinka Message-ID: <566603A6.50504@seacom.mu> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 00:09:42 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/42.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5665A42C.8090500@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:19:39 -0000 On 7/Dec/15 17:22, Stephen Cook wrote: > > portmaster -a I go "portmaster -ad", to save space. Mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 22:24:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1F59D3468 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from melson.r@att.net) Received: from nm20-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.113]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39C9617FC for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from melson.r@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1449526961; bh=n6un0+UYn8e+1qJPyM/LAxhz94LFnwNmD019fKkzheE=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=HQSiDUffvmXvMSk31ZLPrQYoeTXlN9Gh5hCM/AL5wXVmNkrZS/FGOoPVwEcop1ZXivx+p+MpeAjPEgRDaCipr90a6X3GQgKOdXDv8mDr/CfPvETAJzwbyX68SeCfXuJt5sDt5jaL+2ILMlKFcM4yDyz2kZiXHiO7Og8HvezyNsw= Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 22:22:41 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.96] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 22:22:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 22:22:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 82681.62241.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: _a2Y5vYVM1l75BVSyOnium8D6EJIpLry3Hc9z92kQoXimqj 3ZtYSbQwb9Q.3WpH1lBEhV4UH999NAvqhUAKZ2jxICcgiSweTo6DHwVi2uMm L_89DCJnP2ljjvhQ1gdvcRtO96QK3x5e.IhFHOBovpu.xrY1AoGssA0T_PhJ eLo5fJHk.a2siHz2AGk.oHuyGO31I8gOP75fXIVG271MsEoZmyzk_nfn84oE KkZa.8R22Pl4C7jQDKPeEacbGTmpLito3MyGgA9ZFXSlmxXDifKZ5bs3qttI 0FJys101ttMjbcU7vclmhGPecsEp4iABxgVIFqx_PJIMhk2fL_4hHDQ0hTTy h7bjSukLLMC5XNbia8Yt7SmsDaY0qf7ObHqpfRCxrzrqxI6EQ2ecMXNRCVlc chuSrYooOinXFoseSslrQHJ8N9tWskbUnnyn2wFxfBM6cDdObuUSXiS4dJeB 69g1azHBvlyzJWsBoGIkz_zeUmUtNkJdLYIhhJCIWA0CTuS5dw51H7NX.mS3 wMZKnihsiLtrjYMNyiIZ8W6.tdKfVpb2jCSdQ X-Yahoo-SMTP: RxdRp8mswBB83n3KB2.GK3x99mG1E13BNZ7H80Q- To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Bob Melson Subject: Compiling Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird fails Organization: Dept. of Paleocomputing, Whatsamatta U. Message-ID: <566606AF.30109@att.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:22:39 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:24:24 -0000 System: FreeBSD strider.homeunix.net 9.3-STABLE FreeBSD 9.3-STABLE #37 r290542: Sun Nov 8 13:27:53 MST 2015 root@strider.homeunix.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STRIDER amd64 Failure message: (Firefox; others fail similarly) /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-42.0/config/recurse.mk:32: recipe for target 'compile' failed gmake[3]: *** [compile] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-42.0/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3' /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-42.0/config/rules.mk:549: recipe for target 'default' failed gmake[2]: *** [default] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-42.0/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3' /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-42.0/client.mk:401: recipe for target 'realbuild' failed gmake[1]: *** [realbuild] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-42.0' /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/firefox-42.0/client.mk:171: recipe for target 'build' failed gmake: *** [build] Error 2 ===> Compilation failed unexpectedly. Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=yes and rebuild before reporting the failure to the maintainer. *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox. *** [stage] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox. From /usr/ports/UPDATING: 20151006: AFFECTS: users of www/firefox, www/seamonkey AUTHOR: gecko@FreeBSD.org Firefox since 41.0 and SeaMonkey since 2.38 require databases/sqlite3 port built with DBSTAT option enabled (default). Re-run "make config" if the port(s) fail to build as described in ports/200853. Over the past several months (at least 6), each time there's been an update to Firefox/Seamonkey/Thunderbird, my compiles have failed, always with a message similar to the above and in each of the three mozilla "products". The above information applies to Firefox, but the other two also fail to compile, with similar messages. I've looked at ports/200853 and have to admit that I *really* don't understand what I must do beyond compiling/installing sqlite3 with the DBSTAT option enabled. Granted, I've eventually - within several days of each upgrade's appearance - been able to pull down the appropriate package(s). Still, I prefer to roll my own. So, can anybody please ease my frustration - and end my cluelessness! - at these repeated failures by providing a suitable clue that would allow me to once again be able to compile these applications? Thanks, Bob Melson -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande Microsolutions | El Paso, TX -- The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch and do nothing. Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 23:04:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B40E9B97F6 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romapera15@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x22c.google.com (mail-lf0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EE211ECA for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romapera15@gmail.com) Received: by lfs39 with SMTP id 39so1445620lfs.3 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:04:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ChnhtF/JlZJck66ptXOrKoCE32S9W0WNRq97cx0I37M=; b=lSMQrKk5YTjmI+EzjJhac2kUEVR7nAKHvjBwpl6cia2fIhX0gLoU3X3wLPgKm4KAyI YNmrpD0XGs1DcgourqQj5KcPiGKEXnBmxZNyGn4Mg8C+M6lIzpQy+F4UUj+rYpRF1u8k TC7fTFmaRvS3fNCIK1Z/qtjlHNdChjx4Q/wbwA9vmSoieb0lB/tKJdy8G5KaW0OdUUB3 aLb8zOvBy4wFNsIU557icx00ofw5Pvzt5Z6MSZxrZhIOJX2asWV6R4P/PlQwvCkOZYhh Cm1A2D/obvOyynWLDmaw3EDHpibC5d9Y1J9LfIHeT3o4B74wbtwGGfPxfixs6dO1Hcbw YLHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.141.70 with SMTP id p67mr14578994lfd.151.1449529457239; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.89.17 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:04:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:04:17 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD! From: =?UTF-8?Q?fran=C3=A7ai_s?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:04:21 -0000 Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD. I used differents nicks, for example, Jorge Luis Carvalho Santos, fran=C3= =A7ais, waretrue... I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I do not want to talk about the topics that I should not have posted in freebsd-questions, freebsd-hackers, freebsd-doc, freebsd-drives... I decided prevent substantial harm to important relationships that probably I will have in future with other developers. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 23:08:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D109B9CDB for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BB05121E for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MIu7d-1a8Ynv2fYv-002VHb for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:08:38 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:08:37 +0100 Message-ID: <3931169.O6iNsM7Ae5@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0suUfgHFleInu8fwcDXUDyRQZx+nJA+mJwOa9ioWLSQWPTTIPQ3 gMUhz11H5tufN92W2S+tA8yWA3AbP9qu2sYhQ8S8YJpStlQde7iMJ6HE08GSVeLDkmEh/WN x9MEnQAt1wl9jvNbM721nIxMzPqHU2gzhe7paJHUokwb3R7fbhQIDegNMq3g9SIzXnCOPoo +Bn9GQpeLw5S+OGsfQCJg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:PqlOZgf3P24=:2/7WzOlvc/ayYtMRj+fejq IZODAmdRDIP/KaLxXls4WYRy51v0MrkGCx47qsf9Tw/Jgo6y9AUGotzCU3X+eUagVWhEtowLl OWLILgBRgc9YLTzB4DIZQj3TzNiCkY4Ej9v3/d0vilGnh/BSx3V4LYLloGSf8vTBTBAeJ6ESN rGQkAPUC8g95hnhBXgADPMM2KN1fXnWq56QXvglkkxYLzDyhWVKe4HnPa+qR9H6o2Yn/JpDVh 1icQKyL4zvvCCLNjpIUW6RErkulN3ZBJvpDu2gbzyPobKuEyaYAVRMgZn+XIPmhfhPNrimSJI ikKeBVVvDqyg8MM8pco+O+ZsfT1Eu+ndMMAp2D/G04Mgwu0vQlF1wnlj+oeyKE5RHpcfQOVWT wkKLmw/VK50VSuKBWNaBn8rBd2FcBVSzKgLnkF0b6ljB6VTpP/AOcbCR57OnAjNvGmfWeOx2H p1P9YNaMYdXOXPmYmqfbKi9lDIjJeHdWALN1ga5Pz+CFXMIi9FCPTOO3LpcISRm9KCJqFQp9K II0SmtF1iU5gBbE5gklVH+S/AoblOxWY8BpooICX3YVfFH/IflnWex4m/iHsqovbPKyUvOHfF 52ym0QXubp9ZatLpzmoQgSQsWnmywMe9eEismMJHjvkrqA+P8Iv3Ibs5GXQ5ppJZSzzSsjzdM w9O3+ueIFEcUvr+438d/jY2tUn/vkGC+rw94DS6qqcSciyR2ZQ4RHBfpIA6iCQlE9bXMaLVa3 8KN60wSEUjjTkfppHCRr2SaJ0WVOHooKTkmF76fTgkhEj26XD5+GLL/tx8MoquuS82+p92sKA I1Vh8D2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:08:41 -0000 Terje Elde wrote: > You could mount the sftp locally (sshfs, fuse?), and then use rsync as if with two local dirs? Thanks, that's definitely an interesting option that didn't come to my mind. > (If that will be efficient depends a lot on your workload) Based on my previous experience with FUSE a couple of years ago, I'm actually more concerned about the reliability of this solution. In my case I'm looking at some 1800 files, for a total of 3.4 GB, of which about 300 MB will change weekly. Is this a workload FUSE could be trusted with nowadays or am I likely to run into issues in the long term? Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 23:17:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56CC9D33CB for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AF4117FA for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tB7NGwnJ032397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:17:00 -0600 Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD! 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Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <5666136A.3070903@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:22:28 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:17:07 -0000 On 12/07/15 17:10, françai s wrote: > Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD. > > I used differents nicks, for example, Jorge Luis Carvalho Santos, français, > waretrue... > > I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I > do not want to talk about the topics that I should not have posted in > freebsd-questions, freebsd-hackers, freebsd-doc, freebsd-drives... > > I decided prevent substantial harm to important relationships that probably > I will have in future with other developers. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Good luck w/ that ;-) .... -- William A. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 23:19:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F559D36AE for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3529A1A58 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so160524828wmw.1 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:19:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=TXlh4BNaMm+iOAbz3/ZwuVSJu8x/MwEWKtfFAdX2tfw=; b=TfyC5OoW60uXaSSAuzIIKBQrvtecaAdDQfiS/aVSQ8FGNjHCr/7xqxfyf8fS9o4YSq aoIC5WFgbHVfi/PiAT082btvmyZVXqcdO7Rs1t84M8eA/VU4U8YyxUr6NTpTZsO5LIJZ 34C/q/zcD7zGv5+s808AVg18GJ8G5KndfohKbXF30E+jrqQ+XnVOAuKmJXGc5zCO1epU j/RiddR/dnTLAjANT+SifT1KH+KaSZLLzmxbJrDgYs3z2PUdCFxcoFzC1VuHIOOxrhOR qJnfo1ykVvQtkizkv/fEUntxbcpXF8qpbmvLEz4fY8+lenhaBgFdvuLf9uQGQuCobPDX rdhg== X-Received: by 10.194.174.201 with SMTP id bu9mr344658wjc.81.1449530392745; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:19:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:19:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:19:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP To: Patrick Hess Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:19:54 -0000 2015-12-07 23:13 GMT+02:00 Patrick Hess : > Hi, > > what command-line tool could you recommend if you were in the need > to synchronize a complete directory hierarchy from your local system > to a remote server via SFTP? In the past, I was always able to use > tools like cpdup or rsync for this kind of job, but this time SFTP > is the only game in town. :-( > > I actually had a hard time finding anything useful. The only thing > that came up so far is https://www.csync.org, which compiles fine on > FreeBSD and does exactly what I need. Unfortunately, there doesn't > seem to exist a port yet. There's net/csync2, but that's completely > unrelated to www.csync.org. > > So before I go and create a new port for csync, is there anything > similar already available in the ports? Do you have a shell or only SFTP access? rsync supports SSH natively. 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[63.231.131.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c5sm155229igg.14.2015.12.07.12.49.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:49:13 -0800 (PST) References: From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Paul Stuffins Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:49:11 -0600 Message-ID: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:20:27 -0000 Paul Stuffins writes: > Hi Everybody, > As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and stay with > FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of > upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? Right, so since this kinda derailed quickly, I'll try to answer this clearly and comprehensively. I moved from Arch Linux to FreeBSD myself just over a year ago, so I'll try to iron some things out for you, since it took me some time to sort all this out myself and I sympathize. The package package manager isn't drastically different from pacman or dpkg/apt, so you should find understanding it pretty easy. Just read the man pages and the relevant section of the Handbook for the basics. Beyond that, though, there are some characteristics of the packages and repository that need to be understood. First, in almost every case a single port is built into a single package with a fairly sane set of default options. Even in cases where multiple versions of an application exist--such as Emacs--there is a corresponding port with a different set of options. So if you're lucky, you'll be able to use packages for everything you need. If there's any application built without an option you want, you'll have to build it from the ports tree. This raises some caveats. For one thing, while packages are built and the repository updated several times a week (up from just two or three times a week when I first started--great work, folks), as of now it's not a continuous process. This means the ports tree (which works by a rolling-release model) is always a few hours to a couple days ahead of what you'll find in the repository, raising the possibility of dependency conflicts if you mix ports with precompiled packages. For another, if you try upgrading your binary packages using `pkg update && pkg upgrade`, pkg(8) will also replace your personally compiled ports with the most recent default versions found in the package repository. There are two ways to avoid these issues. If you just have, say, two or three ports to manage, you can use pkg-lock(8) to prevent pkg(8) from messing with your ports. You can then upgrade your packages as usual, and then use ports-mgmt/portmaster or ports-mgmt/portupgrade to upgrade your ports afterward. This can be a little tedious, as (a) you'd need to use Subversion to synchronize your local ports tree to the revision used to build the most recent set of packages, which must be done manually; and (b) you would need to use `pkg unlock` on your custom package before upgrading them (but *after* upgrading your vanilla packages), and then run `pkg lock` on them again after upgrading. So it would require building some new habits. There are a couple sripts I've seen that are supposed to synchronize your ports to the package repo automatically, but last I checked they hadn't been updated for 10.2 and did not work for -STABLE or -CURRENT. If you have more than a few ports to build, or don't mind waiting a few months between package upgrades (you are a Debian user, after all), you can just use the quarterly repository and ports tree, which are always kept in sync and updated every three months. As of FreeBSD 10.2 the quarterly package repository is used by default on new installs, and fetching the quarterly ports tree with Subversion is easy enough (it's in the same SVN repo as the main ports tree). So this is definitely the easier way to go if you want to mix ports with packages. Of course, if you have lots of ports you want to customize, you might just skip packages entirely and stick with ports. In that case, ports-mgmt/portmaster seems to be the semi-official way of handling things. You'd just run `portmaster -a` to upgrade all installed ports. If there are any new options available in a new version of the port, portmaster will prompt you to check your options interactively before continuing. You could also use ports-mgmt/poudriere to build custom packages into a locak repository; it's the same build system used for the official package repository. Setting it up the first time takes a little work, but it would allow you to build from either the rolling or quarterly ports tree as you see fit, and updating is just a matter of fetching the latest commit of whichever ports tree you're tracking and running the build command. I use it myself, and love it. Poudriere is quicker and more efficient than Portmaster on machines with plenty of RAM and multi-core CPUs. Since the ports system and package manager are tied to each other, once a port is installed you can perform any actions you see fit on it using pkg(8). It's all the same at that point. And as was already mentioned, always make sure to read /usr/ports/UPDATING (or run `pkg updating`) before proceeding to see announcements about any special measures that need to be taken. Hope this all helps a bit. -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 23:43:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1079C1CA1 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8BF2182A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LhSfM-1ab2TB1K1g-00mZSB for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:43:29 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:43:28 +0100 Message-ID: <5263162.JaugYyUJYb@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:vGxTT5xSi9UIQMlpAqkcibNwq+Ly7m1NPX1/SGwLWRj1jMty1zC Oz1+R8OcEr9biMweeDbHWoJHoIFQEEof/leTY35jIVmTwSpLeKUVgJjJFL8yYv3X32R53tG RjfoHh7PCKfA8QlKZkVLGX60W6/QCKByLtI7f8zWAUcBepoSrwr0d6azRJPust8qBUIWIsz 787GP9So/Fqt3IyOZ+Zng== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:jxbCQq9MGvE=:8l3DA4drutUG6Kj/RaXlzZ h4u+fmKg0qU6Xq79STB8rk2ZJSy51mAEMT/f2YwS/C134vrb75CWtc//1HeU4DkTRRn2XU+Ud oCHKw3tqsJq17D9UEiEuVMCv98X9JD3dRaao4RlWC1P4ve1p3u/XWAPgBuntWpn0z+ObF/U6o ZWVbzo9Sv4oSGOG/s51BrzdwdCVqAQvrj6p2z7q2WeP/IXO8tU5xHB0Q1Z4ls3NIekWlN6K9t NCXglon1+isyUMXgJw9zzF3MPe/lIHjdhWTL6aa+Vp/OmDcfHyJ+SBDnhAqInGEtWLLmqIMTx STuhMxhtM5sTQeCKZuY9ZdyKcknjeXe4piS+WjYiBZ+/N+AyNc/d3+XFE0KTzMOqNUfeIzOHf 60bwvnRljccJq9xT5WuMUB7pa3PsISbmyiNPilYoMDWgLFGAVtaJA37lCFAJcxZCer6XAz5h0 VQ3GUUN6FXQLS5zqBJR6auhtbBbI8k12Du96HZGlF5KGHbCzaewXPZd9rW0ZJNiT1Bs2mwo/t dt2f/jqtPJSgnEIm6UmvgFbQiEf2AwEbKck/Ckj9ta+XfQVZT2Ue6hLbJoPCYGunA6fKhaUFp muKUccgZZdxksKGv40R8ms6kT2W2py5uslIvOP5rEmk/31tRqxBykq1rLmlEg49UN/gx23YaE 2sOMN6WHPAg0T/P/J1NrKWvs6gXLGubfCMzezIKmhOpv5acKgUVBTDWHpf0X/he+Ep98UOTGm PBMwcLBHZoCCMkBF28rarIw12ECJXHO+h6bJVlxdH4W7tN9IB35f0Iww8jtQNh4w+MDiiiEzI HHtLTYP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:43:32 -0000 Anton Sayetsky wrote: > Do you have a shell or only SFTP access? rsync supports SSH natively. Nope, no shell access, only SFTP, so rsync is not an option. Just came across LFTP, http://lftp.yar.ru. According to the feature list, it has support for SFTP and also comes with a "built-in mirror and reverse mirror" option. And, even better, it's already in the ports as ftp/lftp. Seems worth investigating, but that'll have to wait till tomorrow. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 23:54:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076309D3602 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB3C51E32 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tB7NsslZ019489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:54:56 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: static libs for libGL, libGLU, libGLw Message-ID: <56661C4E.9000105@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 18:00:24 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:54:58 -0000 I am trying to build a statically linked version of some inhouse code, see below from the festivities: ar xv /home/wam/V8/Cnx/test/junk/cart/unstaggered/bfc/pre/../lib/R4/opteron/libmaiPre.a Main.o x - Main.o g++5 -o /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static -static -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -Wl,-s,--allow-multiple-definition,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc5 Main.o -L/h ome/wam/V8/Cnx/test/junk/cart/unstaggered/bfc/pre/../lib/R4/opteron -L/home/wam/lib/R4 -L/usr/lib64/openmotif -Wl,--start-group -lmaiPre -lPre -lPrecxx -lutils -lftn dmp -lftnO2pre -lftnO2 -lBC_Phi -license -Wl,--end-group -lMemIO -lMotif -lStdHash -lmpi -ltet -lgomp -lMrm -lXm -lXt -lGL -lGLU -lGLw -lX11 -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lm -Bst atic -lgfortran && \rm -f Main.o /usr/local/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL /usr/local/bin/ld: cannot find -lGLU /usr/local/bin/ld: cannot find -lGLw collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status 1 error *** [/usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static] Error code 1 (continuing) `usual' not remade because of errors. I have shared objects for the libraries mentioned, but no static libraries (libGL.a, etc.). Are these available in another package ? If not, is there a way to tell the linker to link everything statically *except* those 3 libraries ? If not, other suggestions :-) ? TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 23:58:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F679D3A6A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B3901F97 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 23:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5345481e; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 18:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 2c2727c2 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 18:58:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449532706.6801.2.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Patrick Hess , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:58:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3931169.O6iNsM7Ae5@desk8.phess.net> References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <3931169.O6iNsM7Ae5@desk8.phess.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:58:33 -0000 On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 00:08 +0100, Patrick Hess wrote: > Terje Elde wrote: > > You could mount the sftp locally (sshfs, fuse?), and then use rsync > > as if with two local dirs? > > Thanks, that's definitely an interesting option that didn't come > to my mind. > > > (If that will be efficient depends a lot on your workload) > > Based on my previous experience with FUSE a couple of years ago, > I'm actually more concerned about the reliability of this solution. > In my case I'm looking at some 1800 files, for a total of 3.4 GB, > of which about 300 MB will change weekly. Is this a workload FUSE > could be trusted with nowadays or am I likely to run into issues > in the long term? I havn't used it on a FreeBSD rig, but I use sshfs regularly on my Linux rigs and it has been reliable and surprisingly performant. I don't know how similar/different the Linux and FreeBSD fuse implementations are so, YMMV. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 01:12:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CE49D3C11 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22c.google.com (mail-qk0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 064BA1C2B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: by qkht125 with SMTP id t125so7681153qkh.3 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:12:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Y2KN2/NFpfre2fRNQvVh4ky2QFYzdpdVDOYvzz6mhhE=; b=AH6yBuGnbgG2qzM2teakyhkqh3KESf6RhOiPFy57xpUgCbOch9CNVbd5ZyrCmyBKZJ NN3aYa4lpB0w9PTtrAt7/jW0c6o01GKx2oWgo3hdSfOZ5omtEbfD1TYjbFxb4lD7N4Tx 0KIM5BQrh5KtdFASUvf59EQ2g6KF22kjOPtCwIPeG3qCg1xuZLFge7b1D8PMmUsHDly/ nvBso3x7NK0K1zbnOlGRWQ5pjeVNLKd9FE8R2Vlp1FcUeqvGvvu56NvsmqppkM5eBxVh SmhSh35hiI3WbXt9/Xc1ReQ3k8wtlyKvQ+s75TugtG7kwBkASBafP6WxxWkORhxE9JNE +nyg== X-Received: by 10.129.76.205 with SMTP id z196mr489204ywa.56.1449537147963; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316? ([2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l23sm604524ywb.26.2015.12.07.17.12.26 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:12:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: John Aten In-Reply-To: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:12:24 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> To: Brandon J. Wandersee X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 01:12:29 -0000 On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >=20 > Paul Stuffins writes: >=20 >> Hi Everybody, >> As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and = stay with >> FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of >> upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? >=20 >=20 > Right, so since this kinda derailed quickly, I'll try to answer this > clearly and comprehensively. I moved from Arch Linux to FreeBSD myself > just over a year ago, so I'll try to iron some things out for you, = since > it took me some time to sort all this out myself and I sympathize. >=20 > The package package manager isn't drastically different from pacman or > dpkg/apt, so you should find understanding it pretty easy. Just read = the > man pages and the relevant section of the Handbook for the > basics. Beyond that, though, there are some characteristics of the > packages and repository that need to be understood. First, in almost > every case a single port is built into a single package with a fairly > sane set of default options. Even in cases where multiple versions of = an > application exist--such as Emacs--there is a corresponding port with a > different set of options. So if you're lucky, you'll be able to use > packages for everything you need. If there's any application built > without an option you want, you'll have to build it from the ports = tree. >=20 > This raises some caveats. For one thing, while packages are built and > the repository updated several times a week (up from just two or three > times a week when I first started--great work, folks), as of now it's > not a continuous process. This means the ports tree (which works by a > rolling-release model) is always a few hours to a couple days ahead of > what you'll find in the repository, raising the possibility of > dependency conflicts if you mix ports with precompiled packages. For > another, if you try upgrading your binary packages using `pkg update = && > pkg upgrade`, pkg(8) will also replace your personally compiled ports > with the most recent default versions found in the package repository. >=20 > There are two ways to avoid these issues. If you just have, say, two = or > three ports to manage, you can use pkg-lock(8) to prevent pkg(8) from > messing with your ports. You can then upgrade your packages as usual, > and then use ports-mgmt/portmaster or ports-mgmt/portupgrade to = upgrade > your ports afterward. This can be a little tedious, as (a) you'd need = to > use Subversion to synchronize your local ports tree to the revision = used > to build the most recent set of packages, which must be done manually; > and (b) you would need to use `pkg unlock` on your custom package = before > upgrading them (but *after* upgrading your vanilla packages), and then > run `pkg lock` on them again after upgrading. So it would require > building some new habits. There are a couple sripts I've seen that are > supposed to synchronize your ports to the package repo automatically, > but last I checked they hadn't been updated for 10.2 and did not work > for -STABLE or -CURRENT. >=20 > If you have more than a few ports to build, or don't mind waiting a = few > months between package upgrades (you are a Debian user, after all), = you > can just use the quarterly repository and ports tree, which are always > kept in sync and updated every three months. As of FreeBSD 10.2 the > quarterly package repository is used by default on new installs, and > fetching the quarterly ports tree with Subversion is easy enough (it's > in the same SVN repo as the main ports tree). So this is definitely = the > easier way to go if you want to mix ports with packages. >=20 > Of course, if you have lots of ports you want to customize, you might > just skip packages entirely and stick with ports. In that case, > ports-mgmt/portmaster seems to be the semi-official way of handling > things. You'd just run `portmaster -a` to upgrade all installed > ports. If there are any new options available in a new version of the > port, portmaster will prompt you to check your options interactively > before continuing. >=20 > You could also use ports-mgmt/poudriere to build custom packages into = a > locak repository; it's the same build system used for the official > package repository. Setting it up the first time takes a little work, > but it would allow you to build from either the rolling or quarterly > ports tree as you see fit, and updating is just a matter of fetching = the > latest commit of whichever ports tree you're tracking and running the > build command. I use it myself, and love it. Poudriere is quicker and > more efficient than Portmaster on machines with plenty of RAM and > multi-core CPUs. >=20 > Since the ports system and package manager are tied to each other, = once > a port is installed you can perform any actions you see fit on it = using > pkg(8). It's all the same at that point. And as was already mentioned, > always make sure to read /usr/ports/UPDATING (or run `pkg updating`) > before proceeding to see announcements about any special measures that > need to be taken. Hope this all helps a bit. I am coming from Debian also, and I was initially intimidated by ports. = I still am, but I the more I think about it, the more I favor the idea = of ports over packages. One source of confusion is the all the options = one is faced with when installing from ports; I don't know exactly where = to look for documentation on what would be better/worse to select and = why. Is this a matter of checking with the documentation of the program = to be installed? Or is there FreeBSD specific information on this = somewhere?= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 01:16:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BC29D304D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x231.google.com (mail-qk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A780B1F4C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: by qkht125 with SMTP id t125so7814160qkh.3 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:16:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=idFB5MY4wjZFmx6WXt3qkbSgfDywtXG0vf7SONEcICA=; b=N1L9jccBYMnV6KCFq/WxJ3yUgNuh482W8Kd0fzpFQ4Sg+w7SZv2/h7qlN6+n7B1YV6 RgXJnrRpbSjQ1UItQ8NNrhheZ5e6uo4TUWTemMoxAkyLe5k/mQq8mmj+hm+3ZnQPows9 pgsn0izajL0gOlw2ul5ohAYfcukVxhqZowuJ9TN8k8AgE5fq5BQTyhznvma+oHbQmPSp 3wr8BnygHJpQr9F23n/TNwfq/Hp5qVJSMl1JRYIe0lfJI9aVwDe2rWCC/jDnyaR4pWSy P+EuRPrHIN4SZsdPMFDoBQz3dYvZ4LTpniVITTrA9dBC5lWGwXHfXd8ftIjA6YCUalTK O9kg== X-Received: by 10.129.154.86 with SMTP id r83mr463126ywg.149.1449537415898; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316? ([2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v23sm613009ywa.30.2015.12.07.17.16.54 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:16:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Mouse & Keyboard not working in Virtual Box VM Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: John Aten In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:16:52 -0600 Cc: erwin.pacua@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <14211C2C-773E-4F81-B56A-718944B9890B@gmail.com> References: <010EFC12-FD25-4A04-B042-9B0C95478C03@gmail.com> <2607C7BB-43F7-429F-B311-924A797CE185@gmail.com> To: Warren Block X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 01:16:57 -0000 On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 6 Dec 2015, John Aten wrote: >=20 >> I would love to provide the output of pkg info | grep 'xf86-input-' , = but unfortunately I totally destroyed the vm I was working in. When I = first tried to install guest additions from ports, I got an error that = said the source code was unavailable. When I got the source through SVN, = I messed up and got a different version than the one I was running. I = then installed the guest additions, so it appears that this messed = things up somehow, unless I made some other error. I followed Colin = House's suggestion to buildworld & buildkernel, following the = instructions in the handbook, but somehow messed everything up; after = that the VM wouldn't boot at all, so I decided to just start over. >=20 > Probably an error with mergemaster. That could be repaired, given = time. >=20 > As far as VirtualBox, yes, the guest additions kernel module needs to = be built against the running code. Once that is done, the Handbook = section on VirtualBox shows X configuration: > = https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/virtualization-= guest-virtualbox-guest-additions.htm These are the instructions I followed.=20 > The Handbook general Xorg configuration section has been rewritten = recently: > = https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html I did miss this one; I'll take a look at it when I get to setting up X = on my new vm. Thanks for the info and links. 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[97.124.177.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9sm557787obt.23.2015.12.07.19.33.35 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:33:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:33:33 -0700 From: Sergey Manucharian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: linux in bhyve issue Message-ID: <20151208033333.GB68332@dendrobates.araler.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 03:33:37 -0000 Bhyve is really a cool thing! I installed Debian in bhyve, it worked fine with default systemd init system. I've switched to openrc and now I do not get the console prompt, it's output simply stops at "starting dbus" or so. Everything else works fine, I can login via ssh, i.e. this issue does not bother me much. However it would be good to understand possible reasons. It might be not bhyve related thing though. Maybe somebody can shed light on it? 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Message-ID: <20151208045111.29b39503@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20151208034106.GA13159@becker.bs.l> References: <20151208034106.GA13159@becker.bs.l> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0-13-g4ff162b (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 03:54:01 -0000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 04:17:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4FB9D33A8 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 04:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AFDA1F36 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 04:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by wmuu63 with SMTP id u63so165939363wmu.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:17:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8au13DA6q/eocC5dtT2CQYf0DSHbscTZDY695smoGY4=; b=o67CfHwd2Y+f7Si1pPucoodILkGZDSOAsaA7YHkWqksdP1FmJYTXnv5gHHbvwzEfKC RON/z/MXegKa2exjxFUmrfYZi0HACYDUwLBEdKkIjbULNakPAYn05YjREotdrNTVs7eD 7erXIj4fhs4Bt+xKCjJHBrmaBmjfnEKPrYdPz3pltCPKQIwwTE6nHWKkY87kExerh0l2 tio+g5kr0ifTk9AjlFVqUp8HMwanVQBFao9mC7/J8ZVJH+1GIr/Hibih50uOe5VejZjV XJNR0LFRH+KQLUndMRIqd/ORpFo+rzJe5NFXbmDEJnGVYWNayYTuuMUHQXGHrKiyincT vdTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.105.23 with SMTP id e23mr26041904wmc.80.1449548231710; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:17:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151208033333.GB68332@dendrobates.araler.com> References: <20151208033333.GB68332@dendrobates.araler.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:17:11 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: linux in bhyve issue From: Adam Vande More To: Sergey Manucharian Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 04:17:14 -0000 On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > Bhyve is really a cool thing! I installed Debian in bhyve, it worked fine > with default systemd init system. I've switched to openrc and now I do > not get the console prompt, it's output simply stops at "starting dbus" > or so. > Why do you think this is related to bhyve? Sounds more like a Debian issue. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 05:02:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6965D9C1EF2 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sm@ara-ler.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x229.google.com (mail-oi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 382941C5F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sm@ara-ler.com) Received: by oies6 with SMTP id s6so4649291oie.1 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:02:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ara-ler-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=L39UXmdi7fHf2lWiOGgY+WshKqXPQQxb1xVn6zUIOO4=; b=YKWbNy9gbjiQ/cvcjS0jq4C3NlfKbW7GRR7gYH4yvHsuBV9//p8XNxiubqeJ/PMROD pLjPbdp3NPL0EmWH6fbK0fMpQsnJSJtprp04ZSvB+MdPeaUFFRscs0J2w9Fu/KOhfQSz x7yfQV2pHiUZ1lP8p55Yec0U79bKmwg+OGC34A88J0mWf46lkUi8/XgTqUQTKqqkxGLb gTH/DJcGZt+inn1evBBi+83BS8fuHJWYQ1RU2iit5gqJzUZsSN9gdJ5+HI6BxGpqiV+w bdX1n3lwmaI/jc8kuTE458m4aBeGFnRBHx9v1na1Bk/4kzxzn5W9Z9e9PLQWPKPbT7Xs jXqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=L39UXmdi7fHf2lWiOGgY+WshKqXPQQxb1xVn6zUIOO4=; b=BatX1b4EP0R6kPMKd979vhDde68FvC+3H7IGaq6OYOu6728Ih37k/2MJFZOBP4Neoo zNlhXd+NbR9L8OGXwmaIRP8C0t+fTMBiK0ViC/ns4rFgAe/ETkFHVnXJl3ca3CtZYwI9 NX53JerXWGTMOrJu3TdtL4VmFxQzh5mgXFGnM7lI5mEFmFkonL5BmOQGQJ7gL5Z3sDyb KCvI/YsECkTum+laI9VIkIQuZtMJ9bg+QugjzupZuVvpFLBam8n2r4BYhyDmqku2B1Sn tfBPH/7qYmorlT43NGoitq8lSiryttBavuLVoPMXtWxmGVQ//ph1RPbNvSwvZvXcKiDL zYjw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmTslrhtK1m/v1VWABlNipKtY2CzwlSe5GswYay5fkODF/GNsbTejf+H0QriVpVLSm/n3jHSDg3vluByy+V9elGwH70EQ== X-Received: by 10.202.184.138 with SMTP id i132mr1043270oif.62.1449550971369; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from dendrobates.araler.com (97-124-177-136.hlrn.qwest.net. [97.124.177.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q4sm699094oew.6.2015.12.07.21.02.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:02:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:02:48 -0700 From: Sergey Manucharian To: FreeBSD Questions , Adam Vande More Subject: Re: linux in bhyve issue Message-ID: <20151208050248.GC68332@dendrobates.araler.com> References: <20151208033333.GB68332@dendrobates.araler.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 05:02:52 -0000 Excerpts from Adam Vande More's message from Mon 07-Dec-15 22:17: > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > > > Bhyve is really a cool thing! I installed Debian in bhyve, it worked fine > > with default systemd init system. I've switched to openrc and now I do > > not get the console prompt, it's output simply stops at "starting dbus" > > or so. > > Why do you think this is related to bhyve? Sounds more like a Debian issue. Well, you're right, it's more logical that it's Debian (or OpenRC) issue, however I have a similar configuration installed in a physical computer, and it works fine. I'll need to investigate it deeper. Thanks, Sergey From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 05:05:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11399D3127 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x229.google.com (mail-vk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9285D1D8E for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by vkay187 with SMTP id y187so5347467vka.3 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:05:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nXn/l2w8bdrr/lBJMFrmsBNYOp9ybYukUXBa4dVocgY=; b=JuadDcpg89N6GhYgPgEKg64NR+3mwXyzJ1o00M1sHQAtHDzCurB4CwkjWQRWLCDo+i Nq1nFRIHYqMEXKyNiWbhWziA3U4eoN+ldhDpztbOnJzDjYCf+dmyzEn/4PL2Ik/Bal7y 6ymr1bJWD6Kv3Ud964vaSdKT8TLd03V6iVjTyY5Tdtx6LIH03GQlrp/6CRrNvXrCo4HX U1j8R/ChnrvR4kU99wiErcFxlawfQvqZP8qqtP9lUXEkYm/s9dzzNs3G12jDnadwN2WE 3x/wNDeUz329drbxtazINkWM5XoHLWTtuI5gftAW6hYsasu2GQRid63ZkYMQhnTHj7Ht mX5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.33.75 with SMTP id h72mr1604535vkh.21.1449551103429; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:05:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.96.197 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:05:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:05:03 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian From: jungle Boogie To: John Aten Cc: "Brandon J. Wandersee" , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 05:05:04 -0000 On 7 December 2015 at 17:12, John Aten wr= ote: > One source of confusion is the all the options one is faced with when ins= talling from ports; I don't know exactly where to look for documentation on= what would be better/worse to select and why. Is this a matter of checking= with the documentation of the program to be installed? The options are specific to the port you're installing. It would be best to consult the documentation to what you're installing to find out what you can configure. To find out what you can configure, check out freshports.org Here's an example: http://www.freshports.org/databases/sqlite3 Look for Configuration Options. --=20 ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 05:07:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D13D9D32F5 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3B0C1E7A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id tB857Z73000600; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:07:35 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:07:35 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: fran?ai s cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20151208154804.N52001@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 05:07:41 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3, Message: 12 On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:04:17 -0200 fran?ai s wrote: > Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD. > > I used differents nicks, for example, Jorge Luis Carvalho Santos, fran?ais, > waretrue... > > I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I > do not want to talk about the topics that I should not have posted in > freebsd-questions, freebsd-hackers, freebsd-doc, freebsd-drives... > > I decided prevent substantial harm to important relationships that probably > I will have in future with other developers. Our old mate Omar Khayym probably put it most eloquently: "The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it." Ralf's a runner-up with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect but William's the clear winner for succinctness: "Good luck with that!" cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 05:25:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9949D3219 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E78721AB6 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE5413D159; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:25:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tB85P8ok002137; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:25:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:25:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Message-Id: <20151208062508.31ae2ec2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 05:25:18 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:10:00 +0200, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2015-12-07 17:03 GMT+02:00 Matthew Seaman : > > ... and a package is what you get by compiling a port. Yes, there is a > > difference, but the two things are often conflated and it isn't worth > > muddying the waters by insisting on exactingly precise terminology from > > people new to FreeBSD. It is clear enough what they mean -- their aim > > is to get some software installed or upgraded. > But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I agree, > pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. That's not a big deal anymore. If you use the default options for building a port (like those from which the package would be generated), no precautions are needed. If you use different options, for only _few_ ports, use "pkg lock" and "pkg unlock". If you need to compile many ports and still want to use packages, check out "poudriere". Ports and packages can co-exist happily. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 06:05:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B899D30A0 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com (mail-vk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 692AE1D26 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: by vkca188 with SMTP id a188so6084691vkc.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:05:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hqba3cKjLqpS9VkJ8WVn36UEH+8VAmt5jKKyTlOBzzA=; b=K7HD+h8MBx+bdJsjF9ISQBocvQIQor8+Y8uuHMeNDTTagMKxzWrmPtMatoBOOUP1Px tUjtz5IizOef/OqUZ23omDkcAm+VS4L64ak4wUL0WKpJbpkLpp304kjCXhBMqbXtqyCJ pF+zTV4EF6peDzG8+6ssUEFLeMmNl6dwiIGfmAFiYc008JiEvXT1CkJT6vL+t7W2Gmyn YDP5+WQfWIoOSukB55POJrEvDCOue9DlwVfh23z94bGVvaJTsN07TZVJ6lUf7aKPl7TI +v6uH9cuN8zPHfKWpII2/tBTbQsdyGy3kZmANRQsx3fK0HDD00nz7cRfrDC83GMVKbHl /M2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.169.21 with SMTP id s21mr1868598vke.62.1449554712083; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.85.141 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:05:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151208062508.31ae2ec2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <20151208062508.31ae2ec2.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:05:11 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian From: Waitman Gobble To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 06:05:13 -0000 On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:10:00 +0200, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > > 2015-12-07 17:03 GMT+02:00 Matthew Seaman : > > > ... and a package is what you get by compiling a port. Yes, there is a > > > difference, but the two things are often conflated and it isn't worth > > > muddying the waters by insisting on exactingly precise terminology from > > > people new to FreeBSD. It is clear enough what they mean -- their aim > > > is to get some software installed or upgraded. > > But we should warn then about not mixing ports & packages. I agree, > > pkg is a good choice [when pkg only]. > > That's not a big deal anymore. If you use the default options > for building a port (like those from which the package would > be generated), no precautions are needed. If you use different > options, for only _few_ ports, use "pkg lock" and "pkg unlock". > If you need to compile many ports and still want to use packages, > check out "poudriere". Ports and packages can co-exist happily. :-) > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The machines I use mostly run FreeBSD-CURRENT or Debian unstable on a mainline Linux system. If you are not so interested in matters regarding license, then the biggest difference you will see is that ports/packages are installed in /usr/local, while the BSD system is in /usr. It's possible to delete /usr/local and start fresh, without botching your system. So we have a system of user software mostly isolated from operating system. Sometimes it's easier to start fresh, especially if you have a system which has not been updated in several months, which can cause seemingly chicken-and-egg kinds of problems. Most software configurations are in your home directory, so it's pretty easy to rebuild and not lose any settings. A Debian system is not configured in such a way, everything is co-mingled, co-related, co-linked (in /usr). Your /usr/local will be completely empty, unless you compile something and intentionally install it there. Additionally, in my opinion, a FreeBSD system is much more 'hackable'. If you take a look at the source code of the kernel and FreeBSD system, it's very well documented, easy to change and fiddle with to suit your needs. and recompile. There have been times when ports and packages were out of sync, the port version might be newer than the available package, and this reason is essentially why it could be problematic to mix ports and packages. In the past this has caused some issues and inconvenience, however in recent years it seems packages are typically in sync with ports tree. -- Waitman Gobble Los Altos California USA 650-900-8557 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 08:26:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383FA9B9321 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 08:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC07317C4 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 08:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so171407042wmw.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:26:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VBa/g/P14zIH7U55CfgjDSSTkEhnXciy4DS6IXOv+ew=; b=xQOF3zgM5FbR8IrF1f8cSwJ9hnMFHOpCXSQT5frc8V1Ebn+mGGgvERHmBohcGB7f4V M6iG2EduTpfttRZEmTO2fAay2S/SLvuE1mq58XzsLeqNxULb2ZxVLIOMpKfLjUgOThMU KNuLTL5oaVCcdj7TG+Zf0mAKyxSeMGzlKwJx3UuUGJnRiG80oMDMOQ9Paz7MoyyjWR/y 7OdWPx8uJaxY7IIFG8B/9oqhwjz5BRqQ+dgr8AjfnoNG01MTcb3vwUz634ciWCJNJg4S wZ8xhAgyRWElfGDD6mVOFwjQ8t4msS+z+2gmvxDcN6ieLg3zgeKTtTERbipO6AdUvt3j 2Baw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.104.132 with SMTP id d126mr1595347wmc.30.1449563192143; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.181.213 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 00:26:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1449532706.6801.2.camel@michaeleichorn.com> References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <3931169.O6iNsM7Ae5@desk8.phess.net> <1449532706.6801.2.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 08:26:32 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP From: krad To: "Michael B. Eichorn" Cc: Patrick Hess , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:26:34 -0000 Me to in conjunction with autofs. The system I was using it on had very regular file updates and the remote system was a windows box, so a recipe for things to go wrong. The main issue I had was the fuse/sshfs cache would often get out of sync with the remote server. Forcibly unmounting the filesystem after the batch run sorted this as well as a bit of script locking. Since then all has been good. This was linux based though. On 7 December 2015 at 23:58, Michael B. Eichorn wrote: > On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 00:08 +0100, Patrick Hess wrote: > > Terje Elde wrote: > > > You could mount the sftp locally (sshfs, fuse?), and then use rsync > > > as if with two local dirs? > > > > Thanks, that's definitely an interesting option that didn't come > > to my mind. > > > > > (If that will be efficient depends a lot on your workload) > > > > Based on my previous experience with FUSE a couple of years ago, > > I'm actually more concerned about the reliability of this solution. > > In my case I'm looking at some 1800 files, for a total of 3.4 GB, > > of which about 300 MB will change weekly. Is this a workload FUSE > > could be trusted with nowadays or am I likely to run into issues > > in the long term? > > I havn't used it on a FreeBSD rig, but I use sshfs regularly on my > Linux rigs and it has been reliable and surprisingly performant. I > don't know how similar/different the Linux and FreeBSD fuse > implementations are so, YMMV. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 10:50:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03439D37AD for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f196.google.com (mail-ig0-f196.google.com [209.85.213.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB060198C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by igcgq6 with SMTP id gq6so1875574igc.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 02:50:43 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=references:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=DtYdmUcIydT/I5whasMi4KHyaptmmB4B7xAwiE0Entg=; b=GX4iEpk/8OuU2vhf8H/6V3aYYJBIfPrcekSoSaqeg7qKKs13Xcep/xg43vGC9e5JZ2 /izjjN7ZXqnqsAP0U/OlRRZ4rjCK4hJM1F8LaA4An9o6xupSAGnxqf0l7afQ8OSnJOft VCDEWOfIHbvjSuuIX6jQONzaIUXCxVzZieB6616BCs6gdU0ldMRFI1pGE8SiBGdAzl/Y NqBl3sUutLKVnHHjC+eH7B0esmIt54ZSyTWBAxw2sLuGStwtITbO7RYuioUuUNmpKyxD czsS5VxruL4nWT+Nv43weCfXGUtjY7ZGy2pVGt7HPjTwS7DD1qupOKfY+IJEvCixeIa+ HvZg== X-Received: by 10.50.137.99 with SMTP id qh3mr19099182igb.27.1449556724750; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-131-191.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.131.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 26sm953528iod.9.2015.12.07.22.38.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:38:43 -0800 (PST) References: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: John Aten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:38:42 -0600 Message-ID: <86lh951m31.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 10:50:45 -0000 John Aten writes: > I am coming from Debian also, and I was initially intimidated by > ports. I still am, but I the more I think about it, the more I favor > the idea of ports over packages. One source of confusion is the all > the options one is faced with when installing from ports; I don't know > exactly where to look for documentation on what would be better/worse > to select and why. Is this a matter of checking with the documentation > of the program to be installed? Or is there FreeBSD specific > information on this somewhere? It might be worthwhile check the application documentation, but the port options are presented as an interactive checklist for each port, with each option briefly described. If it seems overwhelming at first, just know that while quite a few ports have some esoteric options, many build-time options are for features or functionality you would use directly, like choosing which codecs a music player should support or whether an application should include a GUI. Generally, the first time I build a port I exclude what I know I don't need, include what I do, and leave anything I don't understand alone. -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 12:39:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571669B7026 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x229.google.com (mail-qk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 168BD1310 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from welcome.to.eye.o.rama@gmail.com) Received: by qkdp187 with SMTP id p187so26355024qkd.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 04:39:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Gc1mYIgYY01IEdPRddbkR+OTukDf4JyNJWVbs0bl1XQ=; b=SxlcbztR5Yh5makupEWk/aGvDrZ0NiaZPHmYo387bPsBKUwebf3DBhvuzqIXWScqm+ SzMrvf+TAWfuHr5Svl0dUp1MVvlbnJI8iUeQuUXU4IyOOblwA9tVCjLruv/A5MEsAOe9 +YqaCw75a2c+NYfHokkIyVByiX6sfGyKsUpXeim2gOlRudSURKDmGHXMpgLoGqlamqpe MqzYao4wZrQRay3YR6jG4rlO0tc6BUti0Vg2Z1GZC1spqRRvE1rJkFiq4/luwoTpJnI+ w1cjBpiuYPIDdZdKU+FgKnejWnFfdXzFudtlfYqc88N1AKRyX1UaNkX36wELWMULGLZW 9hBg== X-Received: by 10.13.197.198 with SMTP id h189mr1685667ywd.254.1449578362208; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 04:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316? ([2602:30a:2c86:1740:3615:9eff:fe1f:8316]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v23sm2035331ywa.30.2015.12.08.04.39.21 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 04:39:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: John Aten In-Reply-To: <86lh951m31.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:39:09 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86lh951m31.fsf@WorkBox.Home> To: Brandon J. Wandersee X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:39:23 -0000 On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:38 AM, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > John Aten writes: > >> I am coming from Debian also, and I was initially intimidated by >> ports. I still am, but I the more I think about it, the more I favor >> the idea of ports over packages. One source of confusion is the all >> the options one is faced with when installing from ports; I don't know >> exactly where to look for documentation on what would be better/worse >> to select and why. Is this a matter of checking with the documentation >> of the program to be installed? Or is there FreeBSD specific >> information on this somewhere? > > It might be worthwhile check the application documentation, but the port > options are presented as an interactive checklist for each port, with > each option briefly described. If it seems overwhelming at first, just > know that while quite a few ports have some esoteric options, many > build-time options are for features or functionality you would use > directly, like choosing which codecs a music player should support or > whether an application should include a GUI. Generally, the first time I > build a port I exclude what I know I don't need, include what I do, and > leave anything I don't understand alone. That's pretty much what I have been doing; sounds intuitive. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 13:24:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5F89D446F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 13:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 581531A0B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 13:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 780D73D2AE; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 14:23:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tB8DNwhD002098; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 14:23:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 14:23:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Waitman Gobble Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Message-Id: <20151208142358.ab0a91b1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <20151208062508.31ae2ec2.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 13:24:03 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:05:11 -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: > The machines I use mostly run FreeBSD-CURRENT or Debian unstable on a > mainline Linux system. If you are not so interested in matters regarding > license, then the biggest difference you will see is that ports/packages > are installed in /usr/local, while the BSD system is in /usr. While /usr/local is the default location for installed ports ("3rd party software"), it's possible to configure certain ports to overwrite base programs ("OS software") or put stuff in locations other than /usr/local. For example, bash has the option of being /bin/bash instead of /usr/local/bin/bash; CUPS also can install its binaries into system locations. > It's possible > to delete /usr/local and start fresh, without botching your system. So we > have a system of user software mostly isolated from operating system. That's correct - a big advantage so even a totally messed up ports build won't stop you from booting a working OS. > Sometimes it's easier to start fresh, especially if you have a system which > has not been updated in several months, which can cause seemingly > chicken-and-egg kinds of problems. Updating major versions (like, 9.3 -> 10.2) tend to be easier that way. > Most software configurations are in your > home directory, so it's pretty easy to rebuild and not lose any settings. That is true for user programs. System programs have configuration files in /usr/local/etc which is worth backing up. However, it might be possible that configuration file syntax or content changes, so re-instantiating those files 1:1 probably won't work for every case. > A Debian system is not configured in such a way, everything is co-mingled, > co-related, co-linked (in /usr). Your /usr/local will be completely empty, > unless you compile something and intentionally install it there. Linux doesn't have that strict understanding of "the OS" and "3rd party software" and the intended barrier between them. Even what _could_ be considered "the OS" is different among the many distributions. The maintainers decide what belongs to their base system, and it can be different in regards of the package manager or even the default scripting shell. Here everything can be considered a package (or "a port", as they are basically the same in FreeBSD termonology), and even the kernel can be seen as a package. So when an upgrade fails, you might be left with a system that won't even boot anymore... > Additionally, in my opinion, a FreeBSD system is much more 'hackable'. If > you take a look at the source code of the kernel and FreeBSD system, it's > very well documented, easy to change and fiddle with to suit your needs. > and recompile. As a developer, allow me to mention the excellent documentation found in the manpages: system programs, kernel interfaces, library calls, configuration files, procedures - nearly everything you find can be prefixed with "man" - and you'll get lots of valuable information. Even many ported applications follow this approach, like "man opera", "man mplayer" or "man xmms" and even "man xzgv" - but don't try "man firefox". :-) The sources of the OS are also very tidy and well written. For many tweaking needs, you don't even need to deal with them: There are switches in /etc/src.conf (see "man src.conf") which allow you to automate many things. > There have been times when ports and packages were out of sync, the port > version might be newer than the available package, and this reason is > essentially why it could be problematic to mix ports and packages. In the > past this has caused some issues and inconvenience, however in recent years > it seems packages are typically in sync with ports tree. The packages you install via pkg and the content of a ports tree updated with portsnap are pretty in sync. If you check out a ports tree which is more recent, this problem might occur, but you usually don't mix ports and packages without the required precautions ("pkg (un)lock" or "poudriere"). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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From: Alejandro Imass To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 13:46:51 -0000 On Monday, 7 December 2015, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > On Monday, 07. Dec 2015, 21:04:17 -0200, fran=C3=A7ai s wrote: > > Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD= . > > Did the Microsoft paperclick assistant tell you to ask for that? > > That's good! --=20 Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 14:57:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646EA9D4E03 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 14:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x234.google.com (mail-vk0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2484A1372 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 14:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: by vkbs1 with SMTP id s1so14542004vkb.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 06:57:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=npzREHcCpthWapmORL//H8cm7qIBJCOIfjbuorwSqGA=; b=WyJJrkZydZN9ZcqPOggHLUnCm7tjIlw2e6hqEgSEE2cJW00RLCO1C3kENsbBF0t/Wf dfh9ypdlg57VMX0jMoeOpfC/HKYLA5cmlWIHnNx4bgb4JdVFfvbY+u5C286eIDWnu/xp LBfLBFtqRtGsHh4yce2Bhozo0hunlQh6MUdlgz9WuOb7O9qjpja52Ks98JmGiu6CCsxK XbcFtATpWAM27nD9O3vAZmbKis6MsU/csH4ZgnKULdIq+hSaPTQDFZq+FVpPdbdFK7K1 xIxf7TfLV45F032N1Ax3a4xW5GBcAWeojqnxfzOoRGJs626OrX1WYutWD9xOy+pxF9Ds BBJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.140.199 with SMTP id o190mr3335307vkd.63.1449586625895; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 06:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.85.141 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:57:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151208003907.GC51195@neutralgood.org> References: <20151208003907.GC51195@neutralgood.org> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:57:05 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD! From: Waitman Gobble To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 14:57:07 -0000 On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:39 PM, wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 09:04:17PM -0200, fran=C3=A7ai s wrote: > > Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD= . > > That's really not how it works. Once something is posted to the 'net > you will never, ever stop it. > > There are plenty of places that archive these lists that are not associat= ed > with The FreeBSD Project. It's basically impossible to do what you are > asking. > > > I used differents nicks, for example, Jorge Luis Carvalho Santos, > fran=C3=A7ais, > > waretrue... > > > > I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and= I > > do not want to talk about the topics that I should not have posted in > > freebsd-questions, freebsd-hackers, freebsd-doc, freebsd-drives... > > > > I decided prevent substantial harm to important relationships that > probably > > I will have in future with other developers. > > With so many people growing up publically on the 'net I expect (ok, I hop= e) > that norms will change such that what people did years ago will not matte= r. > Everyone changes over time, and everyone will need to accept that the way > they looked and acted, say, ten years ago has only marginal bearing on th= e > way the look and act today. > True, but there is perhaps a legal issue? (IANAL) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten I work in the world of bikini models, and it happens quite often that even though a girl will sign a legal contract for distribution, some years later decide they want to become a kindergarten teacher, or politician, as example, and demand all their images deleted. Although it's likely they would not have any legal option to impose deletion, it's generally not worth the fight - the images are years old anyhow and not used to sell product. So we comply with the request, just to be nice. I take the stance that images appearing on other sites outside of my control are a "NMP" (not my problem) kind of issue, they'll have to contact Google, etc on their own= . Waitman Gobble Los Altos California USA 650-900-8557 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 15:12:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB709B9E2A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@ravexdata.com) Received: from mail-wm0-f46.google.com (mail-wm0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 943EB10AF for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@ravexdata.com) Received: by wmuu63 with SMTP id u63so184811809wmu.0 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:12:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=snXq9Yx7EuT+rP6y6MRo8BVlJNMh5gDZN7ltmtP3D2g=; b=efRHD3uXEAFbrXFWDbkj1/SAZjAfgOWfl9YWNhexAHvQ2xvcmQXiRABmlFs/E/cY+2 kNIh4iTb/7JfYRcgka9HsNASUFMSk2+TFivT1r4l0D3Wqc5b1i12Xrw49gKxtgN3oNsQ SFd55HOKSjkh8E+zlkQ9WC2lERkB6gxNb+aQqPWwg+hnzs4sDOSjHhNN99QHrEUKEzBy oOfO30sPGzDM/T3ZgRH3mVtm3MQecAkQjPHAwJhAvtyJKpj8HieELc19cCKLIUNayBqe t1EXBL+1EOfoGC+iuyWxcAcz9Dx4jZ9GqJmO3/iP7x5EMJy7+6IesyI85UzUebLOit1b ifqw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnF0TyhE0pN3sX/2mL0bOxEbR0P2LGFiGBLUlstAwWqk4UrWN3ftPQuVWCQI1OWgPDpDxNBoMHTM57z1dUALDql500k7g== X-Received: by 10.28.126.215 with SMTP id z206mr28798629wmc.71.1449587113178; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.31.1.6] ([104.238.169.132]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z13sm3329829wjr.47.2015.12.08.07.05.11 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:05:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian References: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Paul Stuffins Message-ID: <5666F1A3.6020905@ravexdata.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 15:05:07 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:12:35 -0000 On 07/12/2015 20:49, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > Paul Stuffins writes: > >> Hi Everybody, >> As 2016 is fast approaching I want to finally move to FreeBSD and stay with >> FreeBSD, so my question is, what is the best or most efficient way of >> upgrading all ports on a FreeBSD machine? > > Right, so since this kinda derailed quickly, I'll try to answer this > clearly and comprehensively. I moved from Arch Linux to FreeBSD myself > just over a year ago, so I'll try to iron some things out for you, since > it took me some time to sort all this out myself and I sympathize. > > The package package manager isn't drastically different from pacman or > dpkg/apt, so you should find understanding it pretty easy. Just read the > man pages and the relevant section of the Handbook for the > basics. Beyond that, though, there are some characteristics of the > packages and repository that need to be understood. First, in almost > every case a single port is built into a single package with a fairly > sane set of default options. Even in cases where multiple versions of an > application exist--such as Emacs--there is a corresponding port with a > different set of options. So if you're lucky, you'll be able to use > packages for everything you need. If there's any application built > without an option you want, you'll have to build it from the ports tree. > > This raises some caveats. For one thing, while packages are built and > the repository updated several times a week (up from just two or three > times a week when I first started--great work, folks), as of now it's > not a continuous process. This means the ports tree (which works by a > rolling-release model) is always a few hours to a couple days ahead of > what you'll find in the repository, raising the possibility of > dependency conflicts if you mix ports with precompiled packages. For > another, if you try upgrading your binary packages using `pkg update && > pkg upgrade`, pkg(8) will also replace your personally compiled ports > with the most recent default versions found in the package repository. > > There are two ways to avoid these issues. If you just have, say, two or > three ports to manage, you can use pkg-lock(8) to prevent pkg(8) from > messing with your ports. You can then upgrade your packages as usual, > and then use ports-mgmt/portmaster or ports-mgmt/portupgrade to upgrade > your ports afterward. This can be a little tedious, as (a) you'd need to > use Subversion to synchronize your local ports tree to the revision used > to build the most recent set of packages, which must be done manually; > and (b) you would need to use `pkg unlock` on your custom package before > upgrading them (but *after* upgrading your vanilla packages), and then > run `pkg lock` on them again after upgrading. So it would require > building some new habits. There are a couple sripts I've seen that are > supposed to synchronize your ports to the package repo automatically, > but last I checked they hadn't been updated for 10.2 and did not work > for -STABLE or -CURRENT. > > If you have more than a few ports to build, or don't mind waiting a few > months between package upgrades (you are a Debian user, after all), you > can just use the quarterly repository and ports tree, which are always > kept in sync and updated every three months. As of FreeBSD 10.2 the > quarterly package repository is used by default on new installs, and > fetching the quarterly ports tree with Subversion is easy enough (it's > in the same SVN repo as the main ports tree). So this is definitely the > easier way to go if you want to mix ports with packages. > > Of course, if you have lots of ports you want to customize, you might > just skip packages entirely and stick with ports. In that case, > ports-mgmt/portmaster seems to be the semi-official way of handling > things. You'd just run `portmaster -a` to upgrade all installed > ports. If there are any new options available in a new version of the > port, portmaster will prompt you to check your options interactively > before continuing. > > You could also use ports-mgmt/poudriere to build custom packages into a > locak repository; it's the same build system used for the official > package repository. Setting it up the first time takes a little work, > but it would allow you to build from either the rolling or quarterly > ports tree as you see fit, and updating is just a matter of fetching the > latest commit of whichever ports tree you're tracking and running the > build command. I use it myself, and love it. Poudriere is quicker and > more efficient than Portmaster on machines with plenty of RAM and > multi-core CPUs. > > Since the ports system and package manager are tied to each other, once > a port is installed you can perform any actions you see fit on it using > pkg(8). It's all the same at that point. And as was already mentioned, > always make sure to read /usr/ports/UPDATING (or run `pkg updating`) > before proceeding to see announcements about any special measures that > need to be taken. Hope this all helps a bit. > Hi Brandon, Thanks for your detailed answer. For the moment I have decided I will use pkg, as I only have a few things that need to be installed on this one system. Many Thanks Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 15:29:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EF69D3B4D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 15:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from b2bqsv11.mx.upcmail.net (b2bqsv11.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CDE1C38 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 15:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from edge11.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.81]) by b2bfep14.mx.upcmail.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.18 201-2260-151-151-20140610) with ESMTP id <20151208152438.YDJE6878.b2bfep14-int.chello.at@edge11.upcmail.net> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:24:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([85.126.97.210]) by edge11.upcmail.net with edge id r3QY1r01e4YLlkt0B3QbAh; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:24:38 +0100 X-SourceIP: 85.126.97.210 From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:24:42 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20100827.1168748) References: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5666F1A3.6020905@ravexdata.com> In-Reply-To: <5666F1A3.6020905@ravexdata.com> X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201512081624.42766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:29:20 -0000 Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 schrieb Paul Stuffins: > [...] > > Thanks for your detailed answer. For the moment I have decided I will > use pkg, as I only have a few things that need to be installed on this > one system. > > Many Thanks > Paul Hi Paul! What do you use as email client? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 17:07:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2CB9D4CED for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@ravexdata.com) Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com (mail-wm0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4ACE15CB for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@ravexdata.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so38134448wmw.0 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 09:07:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sSQ1JSIfMR9p/WU21IiPIDWBRurvPsnMwl9oFNsNMso=; b=mPmsXpvrPE4jkd9J37+U2fbMvY9PWcQduwHCiuUqgDDb9i2BZV1+HxvdSEZ3obdLfH iDoz+j1aCA9tXunpfK8b0JLIKcflgEm+ks2yMucrdFJNYxNWCsgX1uKpWJas7eVLk+oN QQ8ausjGglDDh/ug1YImlkF38Cnmt0V//vKZcrBY/4MEOAWyd/a9oBsbRu1Yin2MrkmS 1O1tCAiMkiqddA2998Z3cKs4ka6/AiUGxa3ry1WYbcAP6yxgnY/yR6cmQKrGQZ4Pin25 8IW3Z4wwb9AKVMsEk6ocq5y5XF4YkSATvMDz9tyA9JUpRCwzoMTPxUI4UsWHQWiISlfz 9OgA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlKmflTB0/pZirZSsFTsKrOPeafIYcguEI9Se87F9IJAftTxLEZBB5MTJIpPiT6mMacvHY2/TVeDIoVpHSb/ziJhSrsTA== X-Received: by 10.194.114.34 with SMTP id jd2mr711168wjb.12.1449594434042; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 09:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.30.1.18] ([104.238.169.132]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n127sm22190219wmf.12.2015.12.08.09.07.13 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 09:07:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86io4a6l2w.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5666F1A3.6020905@ravexdata.com> <201512081624.42766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> From: Paul Stuffins Message-ID: <56670E3D.1050001@ravexdata.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:07:09 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201512081624.42766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:07:22 -0000 On 08/12/2015 15:24, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 schrieb Paul Stuffins: >> [...] >> >> Thanks for your detailed answer. For the moment I have decided I will >> use pkg, as I only have a few things that need to be installed on this >> one system. >> >> Many Thanks >> Paul > Hi Paul! > > What do you use as email client? > > Nik Hi Nik, My emails are managed by Google Apps, but I also use Thunderbird. Why? Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 18:09:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71429D36D2 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 917111119 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from [24.134.33.72] (helo=workstation) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1a6MHH-0000X4-Bl; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:42:15 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Patrick Hess" Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <5263162.JaugYyUJYb@desk8.phess.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:42:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5263162.JaugYyUJYb@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.7/21141/Tue Dec 8 14:35:26 2015) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:09:24 -0000 Am .12.2015, 00:43 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Hess : > Anton Sayetsky wrote: >> Do you have a shell or only SFTP access? rsync supports SSH natively. > > Nope, no shell access, only SFTP, so rsync is not an option. > > Just came across LFTP, http://lftp.yar.ru. According to the feature list, > it has support for SFTP and also comes with a "built-in mirror and > reverse > mirror" option. And, even better, it's already in the ports as ftp/lftp. > Seems worth investigating, but that'll have to wait till tomorrow. lftp is used a lot here to mirror directories via sftp. Would recommend. You can script your transfer jobs nicely ( like, "cd somewhere || exit 1" ). Check out the fine-tuning available with "set -a". Regards, Michael > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 18:44:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497AE9D4251 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from b2bfep15.mx.upcmail.net (b2bfep15.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92196158D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from edge11.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.81]) by b2bfep12.mx.upcmail.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.18 201-2260-151-151-20140610) with ESMTP id <20151208184325.DCSP29633.b2bfep12-int.chello.at@edge11.upcmail.net> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:43:25 +0100 Received: from t60.lan ([85.126.97.210]) by edge11.upcmail.net with edge id r6jR1r00b4YLlkt0B6jRRN; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 19:43:25 +0100 X-SourceIP: 85.126.97.210 From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:43:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20100827.1168748) References: <201512081624.42766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <56670E3D.1050001@ravexdata.com> In-Reply-To: <56670E3D.1050001@ravexdata.com> X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:44:26 -0000 Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 schrieb Paul Stuffins: > On 08/12/2015 15:24, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 schrieb Paul Stuffins: > >> [...] > >> > >> Thanks for your detailed answer. For the moment I have decided I will > >> use pkg, as I only have a few things that need to be installed on this > >> one system. > >> > >> Many Thanks > >> Paul > > Hi Paul! > > > > What do you use as email client? > > > > Nik > Hi Nik, > > My emails are managed by Google Apps, but I also use Thunderbird. Why? > > Paul Hi Paul! I'm looking for a maildir capable GUI mailclient for FreeBSD. My transition from Debian to FreeBSD is stuck in the middle for a year as I still have to use Devuan+TDE for my office work, not at least because of kmail. I know, KDE comes with a kind of kmail, but that does not fit the bill (akonadi + nepomik ... *shudder*). Nik > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 19:46:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBFE9D41EE for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@ravexdata.com) Received: from mail-wm0-f47.google.com (mail-wm0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C74D8158D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@ravexdata.com) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so228009677wme.0 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 11:46:26 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MBaQPMznKpNAZ0Ji9IGnmePEzWktj49ag/3/FYJkpKg=; b=O6jjXjbbxuSuqFy8edyVBSl8n/SO4kXBmlpmSyE+5eq0bkWVRhjV1yZ6HNrVJmMUaN NikOpblGkVneyiQdlwXhl0HF9aQofX+80/xONi3JmDLqonIom9G3Wfe5fpZW1LIJfe7Q Euk+I7V43EBhuWWaJ7NN471zUyzXi2QSrodAgJ6cBtZvfCo3ga9aVRHBased6SPoU8gq wWF754yq3Pq0nPqjOqlOdASN2W7n6waczTbhFj84kcRlLauGqJPnAmCikiZDf8xxJ4hA p8BXGPWnLfI4INeNQvbr9aThofnZ/BPopLBKeh11jW+sSTr7JsNXRq1Xq1FJGjCUw2/s GIvg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl5cVkojXOAT60soZDCqEhqyqg2a5f6nWal5b54bK3Aq+x6G9bg8tqUJCXQXuSKDu7EaiDoJetG0ai2NiOHYRhbg2dMBg== X-Received: by 10.28.224.7 with SMTP id x7mr27882182wmg.17.1449603986637; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 11:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.32.1.6] ([104.238.169.25]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t133sm4766667wmf.24.2015.12.08.11.46.25 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 11:46:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201512081624.42766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <56670E3D.1050001@ravexdata.com> <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> From: Paul Stuffins Message-ID: <5667338D.8010100@ravexdata.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:46:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 19:46:34 -0000 [...] > Hi Paul! > > I'm looking for a maildir capable GUI mailclient for FreeBSD. My transition from Debian to FreeBSD is stuck in the middle for a year as I still have to use Devuan+TDE for my office work, not at least because of kmail. I know, KDE comes with a kind of kmail, but that does not fit the bill (akonadi + nepomik ... *shudder*). > > Nik Sorry, I can't help you there. I use Windows on the desktop and will be moving to FreeBSD on my servers. Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 20:02:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58C19D4F67 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.stuffins@ravexdata.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A43D12D9 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.stuffins@ravexdata.com) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so228575501wme.0 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:02:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ravexdata-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fTrnbbUdSsIgyjPcppTBYO4rOoawWJDQf7xjsncRpso=; b=15JKirxzx99cN5Zl36iLvHlG4DNnJfXUngfKslYeRS3oxU0003pfsEp5oAve9k54ez BAmPs6zwc3P5ZT7ga6/ydURHHo1rs+lIKE1vjQIbI2hQu9cX4e2uj8XEbVg/K2RCT+5Z qMdSQCqC3iE4II+LirPHO0DOu8PfpJCjQiKGw/y12MsvSFBAwZkuj4CShknHMDy6AU/K UYGyQsdHMv4eZCpcGQoDqH6V/Nqt+kbkSfGjbNk9h9ztCnAfCoCVNFkKIrQ1nrRotDyD RD8D1JQbAlvi2syoHVfEV4orM/hIeOhTOGGaZ2AhRlpjp2WoALdWUa/LwVrVnuQ3y8Uf 9ZHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fTrnbbUdSsIgyjPcppTBYO4rOoawWJDQf7xjsncRpso=; b=aT6QPQpYYx2oo37li0Wqtjof7kzU8cKyg2vmyWrZWkeMhD/SJWPpROO+wRircvpCeZ 4GymM7zS+2c1FgnzS8scHiSSlFW90Br2TZkbGvX/gikxsnAu4E6pxwR+uxBVZSqGCBmp 6o1ME5TBecC7pwLvoKj+OAqrTqsrWHdrTd6Fs56iFJlCbwtdEgwT+2cOvc9aUxKHIkvg unqHOoPdpxJJgB9qkfjy2DX8Ax/ctLm1uiH4v+BXzaEnVB+YVXC9ie0k4NgaJVJDKwti ivvZ6A9z3Rbra9rWeC5aRu7E8sRp2HkkU9vlATYpDcaKkAy+zqA6cgU7Dmz21pFzEvxw YA8w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmzfwFZVE+HgXcnD2ocTsm7UsADM5s9OqHJuA7Sy42CXiPtaufUYLFNsamJIu6BQj1ZzNAYQmS1jipQpfTdfMgBERVcjw== X-Received: by 10.194.116.40 with SMTP id jt8mr1641999wjb.57.1449604924265; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.32.1.6] ([104.238.169.25]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jj3sm4357520wjb.13.2015.12.08.12.02.02 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:02:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151208003907.GC51195@neutralgood.org> From: Paul Stuffins Message-ID: <56673737.6020207@ravexdata.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:01:59 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:02:06 -0000 On 08/12/2015 14:57, Waitman Gobble wrote: > True, but there is perhaps a legal issue? (IANAL) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten That only counts for people that are normally resident in the EU, and "removed" links will not show up on searches made on CCTLD's for Google within the EU, but it will show up on Google.com inside the EU, and on EU CCTLD's outside the EU. It will also show something at the bottom of the page saying that links have been removed, much like removals made under the DMCA have. Along with that, it is up to Google if you can be forgotten. Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 20:03:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20449D3054 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8920D1520 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [80.187.99.87] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1a6OTa-0007pI-Kj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:03:06 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r285885-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id tB8K34Qa002210 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:03:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id tB8K33aC002208 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:03:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:03:03 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: remove all installed packages Message-ID: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r285885 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 80.187.99.87 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:03:15 -0000 Hello, Is it enough to remove all installed packages, just doing # rm -f /usr/local/* # rm -f /var/db/pkg/* Anything else? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, 🌐 http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 20:21:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA03A9D42E3 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com (mail-lb0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 674F11836 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: by lbbcs9 with SMTP id cs9so17784796lbb.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:21:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brianwhalen-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bIN2gBNo1sGbXbcCWcGm5eJm4GndxI86ze9LpwASMk0=; b=p9NxwaWkJ6BYBWahCfUN8e59PrexjaBssU7Kn4uZfJTm+qHSQIeg/7cTcta4yX003/ DiAN4uVELEZ40nNYvr2YS4LtqGCG/4w1x1i3xe5NFkFmOuZ2cVZujw1ApfU+z2uHdqoH HIP6SG8TLSdxk5+8spwIW0ir7cDf3DdYl4aJIlN3Seb9JeYwUnFVuN++MpGI5//EvAys 0OrLKxeMnwfMaZ3VDE0S8Ggbv6ZoAMHg6nnYlnqEZMYzMqwrWYWX+fjP32FMq2qjt0rO QBz//XYp+/2VTvSBdlJTqvflleR84xSxViNPF5uFD5OUUOxx7OdN4L/YTW20bwwOq+J5 xYBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bIN2gBNo1sGbXbcCWcGm5eJm4GndxI86ze9LpwASMk0=; b=NLmC05eiKa8IW2zjTGOsE0pn5NXFcjD9Fwx3PdHlKizYukdI4atnPP3sWqEHHFUVmZ l3NSQM5DaxDWID1fD1C5TWOgjNYnUEQG3zvKtWEIsW/BL24gpMAIbIIiP0KhRGREyEuX eZN2QabeUp0yNdLIkh3ad9Ni8h1ZRgQNzvKKIJiDuAlQe0d9vk4ZhZXglWMuTZMcFZ8L JrZuk05I5nnWS9lv2x2yJpG7UNEZDzh4CbZd7/8u3p1Hl8IGeKRJ/c42OZ5doVCCcq8f 2fnsL6z1BAIC+PCLWMM3A9QzNacnabby4nqTtXNf+8SsbCPPS2dQeEt3hA87UcSGdKwl uNwg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkbFGqM60onkoB2QmBXjvYq67P4zfDJgE4mBC4gG+T1HNFx9nTc6/45TBvCuXTOwAyysCz4T31x+5Hl5kpdaxW0viRNag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.157.133 with SMTP id wm5mr749149lbb.65.1449606114216; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.205.143 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:21:54 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2602:304:cfce:c590:7c90:4234:efb1:41c9] Received: by 10.25.205.143 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:21:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> References: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:21:54 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: remove all installed packages From: "Brian W." To: FreeBSD Mailing List , Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:21:56 -0000 That /usr/local rm is gross overkill. If you have the old pkg system an ls of /var/db/pkg with the results sent to pkg_del would work. Brian On Dec 8, 2015 12:03 PM, "Matthias Apitz" wrote: > > Hello, > > Is it enough to remove all installed packages, just doing > > # rm -f /usr/local/* > # rm -f /var/db/pkg/* > > Anything else? > > Thanks > > matthias > > -- > Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, =F0=9F=8C=90 http://www.unixa= rea.de/ =E2=98=8E > +49-176-38902045 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 20:25:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E09B9D457A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2A4A1ABC for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so195724891wmw.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:25:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kdTLgLPbKn5on12ILZq2X7zg8nId+GJj+RLImDvVK6k=; b=HPV4jtj9fWlcJL7MXDgAfG3BcKrjZxq8f54TABavhcLGP/nXtfVn1hxl9rxBczGjQv 4hwJyvLnnVs2POXNgTF5I1JXguiE+WpqXIDYk8DZAc11BlC8aBzW6NLyFdTBIf1t6lNF 7a8mcEJabYf1v1dohBUDe01+Jhu3ZkbsxVUd7CazegP7WU9xUPkG8w0c0YXB9o2YNSEw xdCvUlOksGDZpmjbtup8s0SZRZ7o5UNd2ItrGpEryWGJO5gRetbhJWsLdYY4kATur66N kF2wdN56diMzBH3lx05ZKF+8iXwgE5po9UNwW5pvG9XSSm+FUsr3HzT/+2m6mIYKPs3o jr/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.240.67 with SMTP id vy3mr1599249wjc.168.1449606355147; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:25:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> References: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 14:25:55 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: remove all installed packages From: Adam Vande More To: Matthias Apitz , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:25:57 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > Is it enough to remove all installed packages, just doing > > # rm -f /usr/local/* > # rm -f /var/db/pkg/* > > Anything else? > Much depends on what is exactly installed but in general that looks like a pretty terrible idea. If you're willing to going that far, just recreate the whole system. Otherwise pkg delete -a -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 20:29:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AD19D4858 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AB3A1C62 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [80.187.99.87] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1a6Osx-0005F1-RZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:29:20 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r285885-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id tB8KTHkt002339 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:29:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id tB8KTH2J002338 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:29:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:29:17 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove all installed packages Message-ID: <20151208202917.GA2269@c720-r285885-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r285885 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 80.187.99.87 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:29:22 -0000 El día Tuesday, December 08, 2015 a las 12:21:54PM -0800, Brian W. escribió: > That /usr/local rm is gross overkill. If you have the old pkg system an ls > of /var/db/pkg with the results sent to pkg_del would work. Sorry, I was asking to remove completely all ports installed with pkg(8), and this in a fast way w/o going through all dependencies; just to prepare for a complete fresh installation. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, 🌐 http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 20:45:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29279D5341 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lb0-x22c.google.com (mail-lb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 389BA19A8 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: by lbbcs9 with SMTP id cs9so18097212lbb.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:45:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brianwhalen-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SnnRCI1UEBfbsb9iVl8V/o5CGYPjZTCgJlKAKRfSV9E=; b=bK2j93dB7U/nsKWkbrueZf+vgobECTJghzm8MaNZEIbgEC1WpgpbPAXtN6RkRhqIhh wgaL+Te4v7veKrIkXC2U4GPkuHAFVX+S3cYBG5tA38CDPir36srehj3ZlIXBII+gPljs JeoujVjAbl59RlOsW6Z8Bf5btl3UgGumRMgDEM1kkmPChXxkSYiIiHvbLcL6JMHJFCXJ z1teURPCqm3eKffuh/A04RTewiSvvOGUczo6B7R25SGD26/nFJpc7/14Rv1KvhoID2YI xZJZDDVDW45mCKoUEgelskdvpPdD9POxJemztNaykkv9a1JCmFf2/zMd1A597DMuQS8k JUpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SnnRCI1UEBfbsb9iVl8V/o5CGYPjZTCgJlKAKRfSV9E=; b=VYKoAEPm+N8CB49h8+m/h13IiChkCpbbyBreg4AjFXZG/vDkvGytTQj4oRf23D4dzG /1KMerm7HIVxmS35/y7KwTtA/vA6opnJE2Iy+k+9T4mx4MM9nt7ztV9Zm8EAT5FkokOr OzyL9bErJFCkYaR+RpFNcYrfxbRNbhV08akN5o/TWvDzK76N3vgO718BoWCFh89XgG9x ESkx2c1ApgARYjeSizG3iczH/Y2XubFu+UQfgWdnGGiUHUC9hIhVkQIwlC0ZzV2bAxst Ag0eCq1O4K0Z3JbCz5g1HL0o7465tbzzIfQkDn1QLZK5LyQlK+FgBX4D6A+EtOzzQ28j ID0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlzRruFmo3xqYifiMpPmdTpVsiWX3ndr388fZU/oIyshsc61Kro9PlLipkZC23VNjV2w47hQKToBj/tjAXcsH/WTnsgoQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.16.196 with SMTP id i4mr150571lbd.107.1449607500262; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.205.143 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:45:00 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2600:1012:b143:f6f8:9155:3b70:6e5d:b8e8] Received: by 10.25.205.143 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:45:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151208202917.GA2269@c720-r285885-amd64> References: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> <20151208202917.GA2269@c720-r285885-amd64> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:45:00 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: remove all installed packages From: "Brian W." To: FreeBSD Mailing List , Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:45:02 -0000 Do a cd to /var/db/pkg and then pkg_del * should work if it is the old pkg system. On Dec 8, 2015 12:29 PM, "Matthias Apitz" wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Tuesday, December 08, 2015 a las 12:21:54PM -0800, Brian W. > escribi=C3=B3: > > > That /usr/local rm is gross overkill. If you have the old pkg system an > ls > > of /var/db/pkg with the results sent to pkg_del would work. > > Sorry, I was asking to remove completely all ports installed with > pkg(8), and this in a fast way w/o going through all dependencies; just > to prepare for a complete fresh installation. > > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, =F0=9F=8C=90 http://www.unixa= rea.de/ =E2=98=8E > +49-176-38902045 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 20:52:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37A09D58E6 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8873010F9 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [80.187.99.87] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1a6PFI-00077i-Rj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:52:25 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r285885-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id tB8KqIRr002567 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:52:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id tB8KqHHb002566 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:52:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:52:16 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: remove all installed packages Message-ID: <20151208205216.GA2555@c720-r285885-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> <20151208202917.GA2269@c720-r285885-amd64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r285885 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 80.187.99.87 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:52:27 -0000 El día Tuesday, December 08, 2015 a las 12:45:00PM -0800, Brian W. escribió: > Do a cd to /var/db/pkg and then pkg_del * should work if it is the old pkg > system. What about reading before top posting: > On Dec 8, 2015 12:29 PM, "Matthias Apitz" wrote: > > > Sorry, I was asking to remove completely all ports installed with > > pkg(8), and this in a fast way w/o going through all dependencies; just > > to prepare for a complete fresh installation. > > -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, 🌐 http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 21:01:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD179D5E9F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from b2bfep12.mx.upcmail.net (b2bfep12.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C117415E1 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from edge11.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.81]) by b2bfep12.mx.upcmail.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.18 201-2260-151-151-20140610) with ESMTP id <20151208210112.ERPL29633.b2bfep12-int.chello.at@edge11.upcmail.net> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 22:01:12 +0100 Received: from t60.lan ([85.126.97.210]) by edge11.upcmail.net with edge id r90A1r02c4YLlkt0B90AhP; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 22:00:12 +0100 X-SourceIP: 85.126.97.210 From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 22:00:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20100827.1168748) References: <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <20151208200619.GA2050@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20151208200619.GA2050@archlinux> X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201512082200.21230.dr.klepp@gmx.at> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:01:15 -0000 Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 schrieb Dutch Ingraham: > > I'm looking for a maildir capable GUI mailclient for FreeBSD. My > transition from Debian to FreeBSD is stuck in the middle for a year as I > still have to use Devuan+TDE for my office work, not at least because of > kmail. I know, KDE comes with a kind of kmail, but that does not fit the > bill (akonadi + nepomik ... *shudder*). > > > > Nik > > Doesn't Thunderbird fit the bill? [1] > > [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir > Sorry to say, no. Thundebirds maildir relies on index files. If e.g. fetchmail + procmail place mails in Mail/inbox/cur, these mails will not show up in Thunderbird till the index is rebuilt. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 21:36:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37489D393C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BEE91D3D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 74bfb186; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 815b302a TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:36:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449610571.6801.47.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:36:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <201512082200.21230.dr.klepp@gmx.at> References: <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <20151208200619.GA2050@archlinux> <201512082200.21230.dr.klepp@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:36:20 -0000 On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 22:00 +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 schrieb Dutch Ingraham: > > > I'm looking for a maildir capable GUI mailclient for FreeBSD. My > > transition from Debian to FreeBSD is stuck in the middle for a year > > as I > > still have to use Devuan+TDE for my office work, not at least > > because of > > kmail. I know, KDE comes with a kind of kmail, but that does not > > fit the > > bill (akonadi + nepomik ... *shudder*). > > > > > > Nik > > > > Doesn't Thunderbird fit the bill? [1] > > > > [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir > > > > > Sorry to say, no. Thundebirds maildir relies on index files. If e.g. > fetchmail + procmail place mails in Mail/inbox/cur, these mails will > not show up in Thunderbird till the index is rebuilt. > > Nik > > Procmail is no longer being maintained (The last release was 2001-09). As it is causing you problems, I would recommend trying to swap it out. There are other MDAs availble (maildrop, dovecot, ...) that might work better with a modern gui. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 21:55:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC229A0A5D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA5A915DD for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.109] (unknown [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 156C89AB; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in mailing lists of FreeBSD! From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) In-Reply-To: <56673737.6020207@ravexdata.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 22:55:15 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <141E1D40-E631-43E1-A2CF-752A08CC352A@elde.net> References: <20151208003907.GC51195@neutralgood.org> <56673737.6020207@ravexdata.com> To: Paul Stuffins X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:55:30 -0000 > On 08 Dec 2015, at 21:01, Paul Stuffins wrot= e: >=20 > It will also show something at the bottom of the page saying that links ha= ve been removed, much like removals made under the DMCA have. Along with tha= t, it is up to Google if you can be forgotten. Clearly getting off topic here, but I figure it's worth correcting this one.= =20 As I understand it, that's how it used to work. Now there's such a text show= n for anything that looks like a name, no matter if anything has been remove= d or not.=20 That is, if you search for someone, and see the text, it does not imply cove= rup of a shady past. ;-) Terje= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 23:09:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EF29D3D55 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 23:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0FA01E1E for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 23:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so49770753wme.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:09:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5EUuzTnWUBY2Meq0t9Ai2G98hyYEpfAHaucaC6QwJZM=; b=u99Zm3yenbxIThJGFQKppGSztUURQk7rT/x1eYMgHqcK3U4QStf/8TuxE0mPcTP95W gWxAygARLoBPHTU7bEKNoN6t5PHK3RKtupEJD1nDxBg7uWDtt2zACoE9c1YD+c6Cq9OP 4vhYerEYYCuBwsgfl400TJKnGU3XFtZpE1A6sadj27ZyPd/+CTE+l9tC19nLIeeVJHGw wpsQFK6ktfNPlktYQG+ocFWH0/4nmB/Cvq6o2K1BGohZfAlwqBplJrUrt2GTy8muuHah JiBN5+IQkNq2j0yW6ChZLF42vL+n4BCxseU5C1hG+aPl/uFNeuKOprs9BRo6iksa9s9i v0AQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.130.7 with SMTP id e7mr29826008wmd.68.1449616142181; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.51.102 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 15:09:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:09:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 10 and Bhyve with an intel CPU From: David Mehler To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 23:09:04 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to get Bhyve going on a FreeBSD 10 system 64 bit. When I try to load the vmm module I get an error 6. I've consulted with my vm provider support and they say the following: run on Intel=E2=80=99s latest high-end Ivy Bridge E5-2680 v2 processors. > If it's an Intel CPU does it support the Extended Page Tables "EPT" feat= ure? My understanding is that this architecture does support that features and I'm not aware of any restrictions we have in place to prevent use of that feature. Any thoughts? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 23:45:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58709D57FE for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 23:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BAF01F2F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 23:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by wmvv187 with SMTP id v187so236519084wmv.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:45:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/NTxq9f4ZOmJPF3AHO//Yg+6+QQqB5bDWMZOEINMkPU=; b=Ns8dyOfWlpZWCoMKM4ZNRBfiC4WiIsnRxALOL9J30SdArO5NaAPK8189Lyl6TIG+g0 XH5yBZrt11ZBr4pOb8f6nOeR3Ju6PNcODKGOCgMFE87ngiNHWqVasyvBthwFmkaeVBqc VxC3MtYRT67Og6xg2hmlSSVD6dOzBtPxw/tuFPCqMKcQw0Ki2LzazS/tQSnI7rjVTllS /YO/0g2mA20Hd9f/ClWcbvFVS/IQmDSZyuW95G72BxjicFUiiDgT9r4QeRx8BzmOu7s2 eVLE+QpJW3FJ41cL2IliFAFJgIRbHcnh9ki12zNpddK/L3JE+vHZOr2af1vNgEQ7gZTv UVoA== X-Received: by 10.28.47.212 with SMTP id v203mr7194469wmv.37.1449618315782; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:45:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([94.0.150.31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m11sm5503291wma.5.2015.12.08.15.45.14 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:45:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 23:45:13 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Message-ID: <20151208234513.13ac2027@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> References: <201512081624.42766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <56670E3D.1050001@ravexdata.com> <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 23:45:18 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:43:35 +0100 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > I'm looking for a maildir capable GUI mailclient for FreeBSD. An alternative is to access the folders via IMAP. Courier and Dovecot support maildir. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 00:13:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737649D4E84 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B232D1E40 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MUCTO-1ZfP4Y1JL8-00R43h for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:13:24 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:13:22 +0100 Message-ID: <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <5263162.JaugYyUJYb@desk8.phess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:13rk5liHigeJepBj5IuxEYxxKdASMe+Tu+tSWp3PRSNUM5XL63y ansTrEdbzgvsrM8hxLUXmYUl+LeThEPR3kuXcwc9A8rgRuMPSNZNsXPk52Ew69wKTZYnYs1 vVOX5+tRR6rv+hm1Sbpyb/VErRXRR7jyWws1hxvhLWeObFU9G3qZiNb+AzIpJwjCYAHImbl YVau0C0Rl9Xne5c+Btr0w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mc1ZVHXfuZ0=:9L7/qrtUymSl7ld7Zt5bHS cHDzbJGqctvV7IyIkvH7KrXaDBSg0mY5KfbcshmHtWGib2vUOJVbiWqYl4500O8/zy394uFY7 W7Nypigs8KdE4j0wW707vnes/R1pe91aBw4m5uGj+pfBiN3elQkoZ+hDq5DbacHCL2/3sTt/n LNY2et7cWROTn0n3vLEke+31JWZF3R8GeZf6L+nQn9ynUUu2Bm54QD7EvMs/mMQyxcFULaf2m A8gdbFZ1BWQOyhuWepcNdaxfP2Z4jZmjx88/PXtfcWmgwqIN0SIz16Ot3uXRmchTbsDyvnbnq PS9+Eal9D5GY/fztlGmC4rImYpLDnGWuU2EYYG2Bf1AR03DZhB+aO6g73gKweC58GZKOLxS0v 0SkmXx/NHL2iBkKg2DlOTT0UqijY6uCFCxQDsPeS4oazZ6V7/GGrPSYkMAH4yN3cQ95Ntz9y0 apLdySDXaczNVO41720xxbsyRHhxdX9rxtflFEWeApBStrDeyJzMQ0d+Hhn9waYl8/g/J54j1 x7RxRXp3ohD29vYJJlbCQXsLSxEE75xHQidEmyA8FYCxyWoBr5e88WTsZfIF0zppNhwllRC5U OBOgQ9/ycFZPp6v2ex1vKXpr8mZgP0UDn9/VXHU7RM0wEDCEDZ2M8yzUJ0drejkphRbX9AC7s qaUIys2gSWzOo0cCtvQ04vlsFA8gQlHdiIH92Z7v/q/uujoZQcEodlrJmHGPYw/DvjOR60b20 1iROvGrs1vhnOE8cg2i3CVgnh0bpIPfK8umoXgGG+7xgnRlj61JLrph2+2FaAlnkdLMKOf4/c D31CmwJ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:13:33 -0000 Michael Ross wrote: > Am .12.2015, 00:43 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Hess : > > Just came across LFTP, http://lftp.yar.ru. According to the feature list, > > it has support for SFTP and also comes with a "built-in mirror and > > reverse mirror" option. > > lftp is used a lot here to mirror directories via sftp. Would recommend. Tried it today, works like a charm. In comparison to csync, I noticed that the initial directory traversal in particular is a lot faster with LFTP. And since there's still a big question mark behind sshfs regarding its stability on FreeBSD, I'll just settle for LFTP and call it a day. > Check out the fine-tuning available with "set -a". Wow, that's a lot of stuff to mess up... Maybe some other day. So far, the defaults seem to work just fine for me. Patrick PS: Here's the quick'n'dirty Expect script I hacked together, in case someone has a use for it. _______________________________________________________________________ expect -c ' set timeout -1; spawn lftp -u '"$SFTP_USERNAME"' sftp://'"$SFTP_SERVER"'; expect "Passwor\[dt\]:"; send "'"$SFTP_PASSWORD"'\r"; expect "lftp *> "; send "mirror -v --reverse --dereference --delete --overwrite --exclude-glob *.swp '"$LOCAL_DIR"' '"$REMOTE_DIR"'\r" expect "lftp *> "; send "quit\r"; expect eof; ' _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 00:37:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AB19D42C3; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFDD81878; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.local (localhost [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tB90PpYP020540 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:25:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.dweimer.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id tB90PpkN020539; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:25:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.dweimer.local: www set sender to dweimer@dweimer.net using -f To: Patrick Hess Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP X-PHP-Script: www.dweimer.net/webmail/index.php for 192.168.5.1, 192.168.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:25:51 -0600 From: dweimer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <5263162.JaugYyUJYb@desk8.phess.net> <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> Message-ID: <44daceeebc9b2997663a88e485b83df9@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:37:16 -0000 On 2015-12-08 6:13 pm, Patrick Hess wrote: > Michael Ross wrote: >> Am .12.2015, 00:43 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Hess : >> > Just came across LFTP, http://lftp.yar.ru. According to the feature list, >> > it has support for SFTP and also comes with a "built-in mirror and >> > reverse mirror" option. >> >> lftp is used a lot here to mirror directories via sftp. Would >> recommend. > > Tried it today, works like a charm. In comparison to csync, I noticed > that the initial directory traversal in particular is a lot faster > with LFTP. And since there's still a big question mark behind sshfs > regarding its stability on FreeBSD, I'll just settle for LFTP and > call it a day. > >> Check out the fine-tuning available with "set -a". > > Wow, that's a lot of stuff to mess up... Maybe some other day. > So far, the defaults seem to work just fine for me. > > Patrick > > PS: Here's the quick'n'dirty Expect script I hacked together, > in case someone has a use for it. > _______________________________________________________________________ > > expect -c ' > set timeout -1; > > spawn lftp -u '"$SFTP_USERNAME"' sftp://'"$SFTP_SERVER"'; > > expect "Passwor\[dt\]:"; > send "'"$SFTP_PASSWORD"'\r"; > > expect "lftp *> "; > send "mirror -v --reverse --dereference --delete --overwrite > --exclude-glob *.swp '"$LOCAL_DIR"' '"$REMOTE_DIR"'\r" > > expect "lftp *> "; > send "quit\r"; > > expect eof; > ' > _______________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I am not familiar with lftp, so it may not have support for it, but if it were me doing this, I would look into using public/private OpenSSH key pairs instead of sending the password with the expect script. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 00:50:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923759D4DE5 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@cisjournal.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824B51EB6 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@cisjournal.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 80F1F9D4DE4; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682599D4DE3 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@cisjournal.org) Received: from dmail-031.servers.eqx.misp.co.uk (dmail-031.servers.eqx.misp.co.uk [185.52.24.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AD841EB5 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@cisjournal.org) Received: from [39.41.191.54] (helo=user-PC) by dmail-031.servers.eqx.misp.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1a6Sor-0005mT-5N for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:41:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Editor Scientific Journals" To: "questions@freebsd.org" Reply-To: info@cisjournal.org Date: 9 Dec 2015 05:42:35 +0500 Subject: Publication in Scientific Journals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:50:55 -0000 Dear Scientists and Colleagues, It is our pleasure to invite you to send= your valuable contributions in the following Journals: JETCIS (Journal= of Emerging Trends in Computing and Information Sciences) Vol. 6 No. 11;= JST (Journal of Science and Technology) Vol. 5 No. 11; Manuscripts can= be uploaded through online system (by browsing the Journal URL) or in an= electronic form (.pdf or .doc) to: editor.scjournal@gmail.com; Sincerely= Yours, Managing Editor Journal of Science and Technology From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 00:56:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5AE9D52EC for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 767E71145 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from [24.134.33.72] (helo=workstation) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1a6T3V-0006Z0-0a; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:56:29 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Patrick Hess" Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <5263162.JaugYyUJYb@desk8.phess.net> <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:56:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.7/21143/Tue Dec 8 22:35:26 2015) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:56:32 -0000 Am .12.2015, 01:13 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Hess : > Michael Ross wrote: >> Am .12.2015, 00:43 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Hess : >> > Just came across LFTP, http://lftp.yar.ru. According to the feature >> list, >> > it has support for SFTP and also comes with a "built-in mirror and >> > reverse mirror" option. >> >> lftp is used a lot here to mirror directories via sftp. Would recommend. > > Tried it today, works like a charm. In comparison to csync, I noticed > that the initial directory traversal in particular is a lot faster > with LFTP. And since there's still a big question mark behind sshfs > regarding its stability on FreeBSD, I'll just settle for LFTP and > call it a day. > >> Check out the fine-tuning available with "set -a". > > Wow, that's a lot of stuff to mess up... Maybe some other day. > So far, the defaults seem to work just fine for me. > > Patrick > > PS: Here's the quick'n'dirty Expect script I hacked together, > in case someone has a use for it. > _______________________________________________________________________ > > expect -c ' > set timeout -1; > > spawn lftp -u '"$SFTP_USERNAME"' sftp://'"$SFTP_SERVER"'; > > expect "Passwor\[dt\]:"; > send "'"$SFTP_PASSWORD"'\r"; > > expect "lftp *> "; > send "mirror -v --reverse --dereference --delete --overwrite > --exclude-glob *.swp '"$LOCAL_DIR"' '"$REMOTE_DIR"'\r" > > expect "lftp *> "; > send "quit\r"; > > expect eof; > ' > _______________________________________________________________________ You can put it in a file #!/usr/local/bin/lftp open sftp://user:pass@host mirror -v --reverse --dereference ... and run it either per lftp -f your-file or chmod +x it and go ./your-file As for settings, I'd take a look at least at the settings for net:, you can grep for those set -a | grep net Specifically: net:max-retries 1000 net:reconnect-interval-base 30 net:reconnect-interval-max 600 net:reconnect-interval-multiplier 1.5 means, e. g. for an unreachable server, lftp will try reconnecting every interval*multiplier seconds, until the delay has reached interval-max seconds, and *repeat this max-retries times*. That gives you about a week before the script actually exits. Regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 01:06:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1339D59D2; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 051A41616; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from [24.134.33.72] (helo=workstation) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1a6TD2-0007Ik-UA; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 02:06:20 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Patrick Hess" , dweimer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <5263162.JaugYyUJYb@desk8.phess.net> <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> <44daceeebc9b2997663a88e485b83df9@dweimer.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 02:06:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <44daceeebc9b2997663a88e485b83df9@dweimer.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.7/21143/Tue Dec 8 22:35:26 2015) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:06:23 -0000 Am .12.2015, 01:25 Uhr, schrieb dweimer : > On 2015-12-08 6:13 pm, Patrick Hess wrote: >> Michael Ross wrote: >>> Am .12.2015, 00:43 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Hess : >>> > Just came across LFTP, http://lftp.yar.ru. According to the feature >>> list, >>> > it has support for SFTP and also comes with a "built-in mirror and >>> > reverse mirror" option. >>> lftp is used a lot here to mirror directories via sftp. Would >>> recommend. >> Tried it today, works like a charm. In comparison to csync, I noticed >> that the initial directory traversal in particular is a lot faster >> with LFTP. And since there's still a big question mark behind sshfs >> regarding its stability on FreeBSD, I'll just settle for LFTP and >> call it a day. >> >>> Check out the fine-tuning available with "set -a". >> Wow, that's a lot of stuff to mess up... Maybe some other day. >> So far, the defaults seem to work just fine for me. >> Patrick >> PS: Here's the quick'n'dirty Expect script I hacked together, >> in case someone has a use for it. >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> expect -c ' >> set timeout -1; >> spawn lftp -u '"$SFTP_USERNAME"' sftp://'"$SFTP_SERVER"'; >> expect "Passwor\[dt\]:"; >> send "'"$SFTP_PASSWORD"'\r"; >> expect "lftp *> "; >> send "mirror -v --reverse --dereference --delete --overwrite >> --exclude-glob *.swp '"$LOCAL_DIR"' '"$REMOTE_DIR"'\r" >> expect "lftp *> "; >> send "quit\r"; >> expect eof; >> ' >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I am not familiar with lftp, so it may not have support for it, but if > it were me doing this, I would look into using public/private OpenSSH > key pairs instead of sending the password with the expect script. > lftp just calls out to the system ssh binary, so you can do that via sftp:connect-program "ssh -a -x -i yourprivatekeyfile" Courtesy of http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11577090/lftp-with-key-passphrase Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 01:07:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C10C9D5B11 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C885417E2 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lkzph-1aeQXK3GQH-00ajbs for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 02:07:43 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 02:07:42 +0100 Message-ID: <8139725.Ur2OEuu1Yn@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <44daceeebc9b2997663a88e485b83df9@dweimer.net> References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> <44daceeebc9b2997663a88e485b83df9@dweimer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:71/jNSPuUnI5B+YM5DNXslsRQAZ/JUpZK0YP/dEById+HO63qM1 7/mrVRpnwJgmboCVM+e0RKFbKRQonTyjYPwAZmlL0z/N+g8EjQk4nUfo0zGugM12VrrR9cJ znmZ7EmJ/fK0U3Ah85DZkl7nZlErKK44kPDZvasw4MBCSS4daoAxgREE+jI4H4xV347pJn/ r11i7jEzW6FPouju9VC7g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:1aTAodBAvFA=:uiq+0pnbD0hof7BulttvN5 51FV7n208mUBYjA9w12MKSLKw1vimXHZxG9w/ovyXDmS9JMAGhCZU5IGoRpohp0Aiks/ECd04 r5KT4lqzEK8gg3ECgNJX9f323pBVjGvnel3kaTWo9oeFGsQZ/hoZ8jwnVcyh+Dy5rNTbvaqmR 2VZ8aWZfLWXsFfj9c8rPHrOii/BT4n7TQ/PasDzjHgm+PKO/d4WevvBwT1EgU4fnMynkFw4ym G9eTifW4RWmmqjcfExumBV8OPKbb4KJXyLByDQ7kSwiT8Kw5jEs467wE91ZAOKDr1lieq9z7Y 0EjXSKxPi3IODFJSRinHiXpjWK91BO/ZjTjwxUG1VUd/ZCxvty/fDSGs/Nq/dJ+lgLdHHSeE4 9wxuoJWVwltoaNbxTyKKz+4QPDdflef1YpIpHkJAEVO48D0VqJDCyU8LOAFUwFYaU12xi6DPt wS16Q68dFtn/p76tq+alXWKCaEXTR8zj5ou38Fljdi+lC/L+Tm0Y0Ed+EAjlDYlEGvcqtpvv8 uT0qdsoSKr6MMxoQwUXagzZlLKeOd9dqZfRUGWmsHeyFlZ9RSf3Ri8aLN/9QowL1OR4a87tQA IpGG8fn43m/RYiMxo+NBTzo2EwkAmYeckXBXy6cMI1c1AjeyQVHZpHkL7M5Kcir8EzAVPOe1u IalENwbNHhfyctYc/V3tVMpDM8SSpOVazOhzFkVqL+CFfvr5NRNAZRrm5DIn1Aky5XpbdqvuW iU5LA+/UP5IX361vMG/MQPt2+HzuAnqIm8YxTh60ufoOcAQ7URI9/8Biw6PambX4hsrRPJLIv uHezgUn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:07:46 -0000 dweimer wrote: > I am not familiar with lftp, so it may not have support for it, but if > it were me doing this, I would look into using public/private OpenSSH > key pairs instead of sending the password with the expect script. I'd prefer to take that route, too. Well, actually, I'd rather use cpdup over SSH with public keys in the first place. Unfortunately, with this server, I really can't do *anything* on the remote side, and password authentication is the only option I've been given. But good thing you mentioned that. The Expect script will of course leak the password out to the process table. That's not an issue in my case; if it was, I'd definitely set security.bsd.see_other_uids=0. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 01:08:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EC89D5B85 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x241.google.com (mail-ig0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED5F618AE for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by igbgg5 with SMTP id gg5so3932131igb.2 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:08:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LuidX3BMRFN/bv2WtYze8mSvqT+5e22VNnkMW/6S1uA=; b=GADharG4eUlFEjCoeFm5xdcPx3z7TelvP8afH3K0Q5qypLEhTZWG0cQwNaePMXd+wO GC7kHUTxhGPq4GgSV/cEseSRkNOvKE2HD3HpXJYgvUkp6Hk4JAFyLNFLsWvMHNenJCAy WPzn0vi8MeWBYwyybKH6PhzfIAi5W97eH+6Ollw3TVF9O00/cZV+ypDlWS//bvOonZbA r9IL7n2AJZ/gBZKd4BnrKDFA2LDrswOlFAASMjYA8iE0uMI+a1WtTUyD73l8aSDsfwvX fPBTv3ZS54GK4JldZaQOB/cjcMshHK4Nn7IFJSYLE4MaEKeLzqyae77PElIuBxtZ42sp EWOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.147.105 with SMTP id tj9mr6493711igb.71.1449623301162; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.1.136 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:08:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:08:21 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP From: Kurt Buff To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:08:22 -0000 Apologies for coming late to this... I see there's been a substantial amount of discussion regarding this, and you seem to have a satisfactory resolution. However, for the sake of completeness, there is a utility in the ports tree called unison which seems to fit your exact requirements. It works with SSH, and comes with or without GUI. Kurt On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Patrick Hess wrote: > Hi, > > what command-line tool could you recommend if you were in the need > to synchronize a complete directory hierarchy from your local system > to a remote server via SFTP? In the past, I was always able to use > tools like cpdup or rsync for this kind of job, but this time SFTP > is the only game in town. :-( > > I actually had a hard time finding anything useful. The only thing > that came up so far is https://www.csync.org, which compiles fine on > FreeBSD and does exactly what I need. Unfortunately, there doesn't > seem to exist a port yet. There's net/csync2, but that's completely > unrelated to www.csync.org. > > So before I go and create a new port for csync, is there anything > similar already available in the ports? > > Thanks. > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 01:32:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5FB9D3198 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3462517E5 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00D983D149; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 02:32:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tB91Woa2002101; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 02:32:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 02:32:50 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian Message-Id: <20151209023250.d17fff14.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> References: <201512081624.42766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <56670E3D.1050001@ravexdata.com> <201512081943.35997.dr.klepp@gmx.at> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:32:55 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:43:35 +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 schrieb Paul Stuffins: > > On 08/12/2015 15:24, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 schrieb Paul Stuffins: > > >> [...] > > >> > > >> Thanks for your detailed answer. For the moment I have decided I will > > >> use pkg, as I only have a few things that need to be installed on this > > >> one system. > > >> > > >> Many Thanks > > >> Paul > > > Hi Paul! > > > > > > What do you use as email client? > > > > > > Nik > > Hi Nik, > > > > My emails are managed by Google Apps, but I also use Thunderbird. Why? > > > > Paul > > Hi Paul! > > I'm looking for a maildir capable GUI mailclient for FreeBSD. > My transition from Debian to FreeBSD is stuck in the middle > for a year as I still have to use Devuan+TDE for my office work, > not at least because of kmail. I know, KDE comes with a kind of > kmail, but that does not fit the bill (akonadi + nepomik ... *shudder*). If I remember correctly, Sylpheed-Claws (the successor of Sylpheed which uses MH) has a plugin supporting MailDir. Pine and Alpine probably support it was well, even though they are TUI MUAs. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 01:41:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2299D39FB for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 117321AC9 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 471d2c54; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 38018047 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:41:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449625304.7860.38.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Kurt Buff , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:41:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-z6y7tRJONiLLDTCvVJIn" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:41:50 -0000 --=-z6y7tRJONiLLDTCvVJIn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 17:08 -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: > Apologies for coming late to this... >=20 > I see there's been a substantial amount of discussion regarding this, > and you seem to have a satisfactory resolution. >=20 > However, for the sake of completeness, there is a utility in the > ports > tree called unison which seems to fit your exact requirements. It > works with SSH, and comes with or without GUI. >=20 > Kurt Unison will not work for the OP as it requires that it be installed on both sides of the connection. 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bh=Zo67p5DVYTbSIDySzRn3IFYIehxd0CVZh4ErshbkGyQ=; b=LZaeOiayRFC2PWklaodfuXfxrWqIGH0JOfTECEDMIQB6JewVT6Af9xnGqXcUFxiR1l LlnYS701jUBovLF8LgsHR12bQUht8gp9eJOGcU1Uwm4pto0QHvpgBC1BbqN4gG3+a6Fe Lpy9QLMvy82jzmC8qp/HG0pZOwhty9zN2Vvd7mGQXFwytXy60yBYFdlL9TNM+wTMAt05 FuO/sibf4ZlMf04oHYm+uF/LL+XaCFspiY0pj9zhhEIvy+zO7TZnzEmbsn45sE0Y4sft T4YwHk62XU3zaMqRkf7HTnTAyd4Gx1mqXZaPrsrccegLq6Za2sOR/zxguKbLeaDZZk+H IwIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.112.168 with SMTP id ir8mr6822679igb.30.1449630105726; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 19:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.1.136 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:01:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1449625304.7860.38.camel@michaeleichorn.com> References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <1449625304.7860.38.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:01:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP From: Kurt Buff To: "Michael B. Eichorn" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 03:01:46 -0000 So I'm not only late, I didn't read it all the way through. I need to concentrate on work when at work, I guess. Kurt On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Michael B. Eichorn wrote: > On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 17:08 -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: >> Apologies for coming late to this... >> >> I see there's been a substantial amount of discussion regarding this, >> and you seem to have a satisfactory resolution. >> >> However, for the sake of completeness, there is a utility in the >> ports >> tree called unison which seems to fit your exact requirements. It >> works with SSH, and comes with or without GUI. >> >> Kurt > > Unison will not work for the OP as it requires that it be installed on > both sides of the connection. The OP has sftp only access, not a full > shell account. 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[97.124.177.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wh4sm2687949obc.10.2015.12.08.19.11.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 19:11:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:11:40 -0700 From: Sergey Manucharian To: David Mehler Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 and Bhyve with an intel CPU Message-ID: <20151209031140.GE68332@dendrobates.araler.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 03:11:44 -0000 Excerpts from David Mehler's message from Tue 08-Dec-15 18:09: > I'm trying to get Bhyve going on a FreeBSD 10 system 64 bit. When I > try to load the vmm module I get an error 6. I've consulted with my vm > provider support and they say the following: > > run on Intel’s latest high-end Ivy Bridge E5-2680 v2 processors. > > > If it's an Intel CPU does it support the Extended Page Tables "EPT" feature? > > My understanding is that this architecture does support that features > and I'm not aware of any restrictions we have in place to prevent use > of that feature. Are you trying to use nested VMs? There are some limitations descibed at: https://wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve Cheers, Sergey From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 04:12:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467949D5F5C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 04:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp10.server.rpi.edu (smtp10.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "canit.localdomain", Issuer "canit.localdomain" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E63531782 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 04:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp-auth2.server.rpi.edu (route.canit.rpi.edu [128.113.2.232]) by smtp10.server.rpi.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id tB944cOV012112 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 8 Dec 2015 23:04:38 -0500 Received: from smtp-auth2.server.rpi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-auth2.server.rpi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D16180DD; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 23:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead-qc124.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.124.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: drosih) by smtp-auth2.server.rpi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABDE61800C; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 23:04:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Garance A Drosehn" To: "Matthias Apitz" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove all installed packages Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 23:04:51 -0500 Message-ID: <81ADFEB6-0A6A-4AEA-813C-227BED22629A@rpi.edu> In-Reply-To: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> References: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.2r5130) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outgoing, @@RPTN) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 10.10] X-CanIt-Incident-Id: 03PPg4Clq X-CanIt-Geo: ip=128.113.124.17; country=US; region=New York; city=Troy; latitude=42.7495; longitude=-73.5951; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.7495,-73.5951&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.230 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 04:12:54 -0000 On 8 Dec 2015, at 15:03, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > Is it enough to remove all installed packages, just doing > > # rm -f /usr/local/* > # rm -f /var/db/pkg/* > > Anything else? I've done this from time-to-time to rebuild and modernize all of my ports, and to also make sure that I have removed all old cruft. The process I do has more steps than what you are planning to do, but that is basically what I do. There are a few risks in doing it the way you have there. You may end up removing some binaries that you will wish you had if something does go wrong. At the very least, I recommend that you save a copy of everything in /usr/local/etc in /usr/BAK-local/etc in case you'll need some configuration file that you don't realize you will need. And if you have enough space, also save /usr/local/bin in /usr/BAK-local/bin. After you have everything rebuilt then you won't care about the copies, but they might come in very useful if something goes haywire. I'd also suggest that you do the removing in one session, and then start a brand new login session before you start to build (or otherwise install) the first port that you want. That way you'll know the new session is not depending on anything which is in the older version of /usr/local. If you have a lot of available space which you could use to create some new partitions, then I could tell you the longer process which I go through. I also get rid of everything at once (instead of asking pkg to deinstall each package), but I do it in a way where I don't have to commit to the newly rebuilt /usr/local until I'm pretty sure that everything in it is working, and that I haven't lost anything. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosih@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 05:32:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5323D9D46C0 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 05:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sm@ara-ler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x244.google.com (mail-ob0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20C01137F for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 05:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sm@ara-ler.com) Received: by obrk9 with SMTP id k9so2463529obr.0 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:32:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ara-ler-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=/mwNlISgW/OFKmOPQ/gxP9Ale1+FqICDnXOV2HhgiUI=; b=itZ1TW4HjgI766vh2i2jXUIjMk5RaNM1BfSHH2qllYd3H3D19XHbekLXTZOfvsWCe/ MHNDlISf9jBuzZ0fH5OqU5Q70R8YwbpkhaIpm5QbrJM/Agjs0XdnqDeWe6bIT/gwpnBt ZPMS1YU32h8MBpElzcWFYAJkiAnAi1nQTTBj8WDcAl47yEtzWGm2llhE1amFk9WKTSP7 nLVm8tGZY8pS11WE2lmxo7WG7Tao1D1g09sUf0OPj2lAGH6dxiDHirLVEt94dVA64R5k 1aYog06L0xllFqKo8pwvfOc9S9nHHDhGjZXBJsh0/QsS6ebb81W2IvyWuYQDBfBVoSQS tL0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=/mwNlISgW/OFKmOPQ/gxP9Ale1+FqICDnXOV2HhgiUI=; b=WFOL7fZU32oE8msY+1xCHuwAfI3zPEzn289cxXaycwqsWyX7Xi1eMvya5jKHpeEtqX n8pq5PHuI6+6kOWsqksYskNNYFTofh4eqq+ehsJhaNWeZ3gaTjwQf4I9znGpqk+5DLh7 DNjAcy6R0Qt1VnQd8+HBr5zGZrnfUxL6/Wr2LvquB8VarN2MX2w4POah9NEZhNgxQIPY sqcNZh2mRJLlCQ5FrK3H53Q7kAJSXpEudazVnPYgIzhEM2Bl98yKf9PqC3kaPQJEtkJb X/7Zm8URXRUEwyNUsRbrA8u2KBVFc2p6dYDoS+wAODMJN+e8E/OjqwXm2tIMeBVje3hs arQw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlXumIu+0E+FjNvdkMbPLYW07AyPzG6R8m0xC84S6U280VPASyjiPBFgd/3dCX/Sp1OvX0Q5ZkJPUmYgTKxG5f4Ev6a6A== X-Received: by 10.60.95.67 with SMTP id di3mr2787797oeb.5.1449639170993; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dendrobates.araler.com (97-124-177-136.hlrn.qwest.net. [97.124.177.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l188sm2923374oia.14.2015.12.08.21.32.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:32:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 22:32:48 -0700 From: Sergey Manucharian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, David Mehler Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 and Bhyve with an intel CPU Message-ID: <20151209053248.GG68332@dendrobates.araler.com> References: <20151209031140.GE68332@dendrobates.araler.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 05:32:52 -0000 Excerpts from David Mehler's message from Wed 09-Dec-15 00:14: > > Yes, my FreeBSD system is on a vm, and I'm wanting it to host vms of it's own. At [0]: Q: Can I run multiple bhyve hosts under VMware nested VT-x EPT? A: Yes, but you must enable [1] it: look for the GUI or vhv.allow or vhv.enable options At [1]: Virtualized HV is available for virtual hardware version 8 VMs on hosts that support Intel VT-x and EPT or AMD-V and RVI, but it cannot be selected through the user interface. To enable virtualized HV, edit the outer guest's configuration file by hand and add the following line: vhv.enable = TRUE If you read [0] further, there are answers about Linux KVM, VirtualBox and Hyper-V. The latter two does not support VT-x EPT. You may want to ask the VM hosting people about their implementation and configuration. 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[96.241.237.72]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f7sm3278268qhf.7.2015.12.08.23.13.05 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 23:13:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: support group name required for assurance server To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2a7339adfd484c2a995885aaf7c066af@BLRKECMBX37.ad.infosys.com> From: zep Message-ID: <5667D480.6020109@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 02:13:04 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2a7339adfd484c2a995885aaf7c066af@BLRKECMBX37.ad.infosys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 07:13:08 -0000 On 12/09/2015 12:52 AM, TELSTRA_TT_CSOM_BOD wrote: > Hi Team, > Could you please let us know the ITAM support group name/contact for server 'assurance.tcxf.in.telstra.com.au'. 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Or just to ignore? Thanks matthias =3D=3D=3D=3D>> Building x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme build started at Tue Dec 8 22:11:09 CET 2015 port directory: /usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme building for: FreeBSD freebsd-head-ports-20151208-job-04 11.0-CURRENT FreeB= SD 11.0-CURRENT r276659 amd64 maintained by: gnome@FreeBSD.org Makefile ident: $FreeBSD: head/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/Makefile = 393607 2015-08-05 19:13:24Z kwm $ Poudriere version: 3.1.1 Host OSVERSION: 1100052 Jail OSVERSION: 1100052 ---Begin Environment--- OSVERSION=3D1100052 UNAME_v=3DFreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r276659 UNAME_r=3D11.0-CURRENT BLOCKSIZE=3DK MAIL=3D/var/mail/root STATUS=3D1 SAVED_TERM=3Dxterm MASTERMNT=3D/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/freebsd-head-ports-20151208/ref FORCE_PACKAGE=3Dyes PATH=3D/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/= bin:/root/bin POUDRIERE_BUILD_TYPE=3Dbulk PKGNAME=3Dadwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1 OLDPWD=3D/ PWD=3D/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/freebsd-head-ports-20151208/ref/.p/pool MASTERNAME=3Dfreebsd-head-ports-20151208 USER=3Droot HOME=3D/root POUDRIERE_VERSION=3D3.1.1 LOCALBASE=3D/usr/local PACKAGE_BUILDING=3Dyes ---End Environment--- ---Begin OPTIONS List--- ---End OPTIONS List--- --CONFIGURE_ARGS-- --prefix=3D/usr/local ${_LATE_CONFIGURE_ARGS} --End CONFIGURE_ARGS-- --CONFIGURE_ENV-- ac_cv_path_GTK_ENCODE_SYMBOLIC_SVG=3D"false" MAKE=3Dgmake PKG_CONFIG=3Dpkgc= onf XDG_DATA_HOME=3D/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work = XDG_CONFIG_HOME=3D/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work HO= ME=3D/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work TMPDIR=3D"/tmp" = SHELL=3D/bin/sh CONFIG_SHELL=3D/bin/sh CONFIG_SITE=3D/usr/ports/Templates/c= onfig.site lt_cv_sys_max_cmd_len=3D262144 --End CONFIGURE_ENV-- --MAKE_ENV-- XDG_DATA_HOME=3D/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work XDG_= CONFIG_HOME=3D/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work HOME= =3D/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work TMPDIR=3D"/tmp" NO= _PIE=3Dyes SHELL=3D/bin/sh NO_LINT=3DYES PREFIX=3D/usr/local LOCALBASE=3D/= usr/local LIBDIR=3D"/usr/lib" CC=3D"clang" CFLAGS=3D"-O2 -pipe -fstack-p= rotector -fno-strict-aliasing" CPP=3D"clang-cpp" CPPFLAGS=3D"" LDFLAGS=3D= " -fstack-protector" LIBS=3D"" CXX=3D"clang++" CXXFLAGS=3D"-O2 -pipe -fsta= ck-protector -fno-strict-aliasing " MANPREFIX=3D"/usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_P= ROGRAM=3D"install -s -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_LIB=3D"install -s -m 444" BSD_= INSTALL_SCRIPT=3D"install -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_DATA=3D"install -m 0644" = BSD_INSTALL_MAN=3D"install -m 444" --End MAKE_ENV-- --PLIST_SUB-- OSREL=3D11.0 PREFIX=3D%D LOCALBASE=3D/usr/local RESETPREFIX=3D/usr/local PORTDOCS=3D"" PORTEXAMPLES=3D"" LIB32DIR=3Dlib GTK2_VERSION=3D"2.10.0" GTK3_VERSION=3D"3.0.0" DOCSDIR=3D"share/doc/adwaita-icon-theme" EXAMPLESDIR=3D"share/examples/adwaita-icon-theme" DATADIR=3D"share/adwaita-icon-theme" WWWDIR=3D"www/adwaita-icon-theme" ETCDIR=3D"etc/adwaita-icon-theme" --End PLIST_SUB-- --SUB_LIST-- PREFIX=3D/usr/local LOCALBASE=3D/usr/local DATADIR=3D/usr/local/share/adwaita-icon-theme DOCSDIR=3D/usr/local/share/doc/adwaita-icon-theme EXAMPLESDIR=3D/usr/local/share/examples/adwaita-icon-theme WWWDIR=3D/usr/local/www/adwaita-icon-theme ETCDIR=3D/usr/local/etc/adwaita-icon-theme --End SUB_LIST-- ---Begin make.conf--- USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS=3Dyes BATCH=3Dyes WRKDIRPREFIX=3D/wrkdirs PORTSDIR=3D/usr/ports PACKAGES=3D/packages DISTDIR=3D/distfiles #### /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/freebsd-head-make.conf #### WITH_PKGNG=3Dyes # Only required for versions before 10.0 CC=3Dclang # Highly recommended over GCC, CXX=3Dclang++ # but only needed for 8.X and 9.X CPP=3Dclang-cpp # since it's the default in 10.0 MASTER_SITE_BACKUP?=3D \ http://ftp2.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR/} # # from aurora: # # WITHOUT_PKGNG=3Dyes # WITH_NEW_XORG=3Dyes WITHOUT_HAL=3Dyes # CFLAGS=3D"" # # NO_IGNORE=3Dyes # From: Chris Rees # CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org # Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:19:24 +0100 # better is: DISABLE_LICENSES=3Dyes # # # added 20130612 guru # CPUTYPE?=3Dpentium3 SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=3D-I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=3D-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=3D-lsasl2 # # not used until now: # FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=3D-p4 -T 10 # OPTIONS_UNSET=3D DEBUG HELP STATIC GNUTLS DOCS EXAMPLES IPV6 \ # MANPAGES PTH IDN LIBIDN NLS DBUS SOUND ALSA PULSEAUDIO \ # DOCBOOK CUPS TESTS HTMLDOCS BONJOUR GSSAPI APIDOCS # ### MAVEN_OPTS=3D'-Xmx1024m -XX:MaxPermSize=3D512m' ### JAVA_OPTS=3D'-Xms512m -Xmx1024m' # # muttprint # print_muttprint_SET=3DCUPS # how to set PAPERSIZE=3Da4 ??? DISABLE_MAKE_JOBS=3Dpoudriere ---End make.conf--- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D> adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/p= kg - not found =3D=3D=3D> Installing existing package /packages/All/pkg-1.6.2.txz [freebsd-head-ports-20151208-job-04] Installing pkg-1.6.2... [freebsd-head-ports-20151208-job-04] Extracting pkg-1.6.2: .......... done Message from pkg-1.6.2: If you are upgrading from the old package format, first run: # pkg2ng =3D=3D=3D> adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/p= kg - found =3D=3D=3D> Returning to build of adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D> adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1.tar.xz doesn't seem to exist in /portdistf= iles/gnome3. =2E.. installing tk.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local//locale/tk/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing tr.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local//locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing ug.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local//locale/ug/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing uk.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local//locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing uz.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local//locale/uz/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing uz@cyrillic.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/stage/usr/local//locale/uz@cyrillic/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme= =2Emo installing vi.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local//locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing wa.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local//locale/wa/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing xh.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local//locale/xh/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing zh_CN.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/wo= rk/stage/usr/local//locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing zh_HK.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/wo= rk/stage/usr/local//locale/zh_HK/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo installing zh_TW.gmo as /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/wo= rk/stage/usr/local//locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/po' Making install in src gmake[2]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src' Making install in fullcolor gmake[3]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/fullcolor' gmake[4]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/fullcolor' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for 'install-exec-am'. for size in 8x8 16x16 22x22 24x24 32x32 48x48 256x256; do \ echo -e "Going to copy files for $size"; \ for file in `cd ../../Adwaita/$size && find . -name "*.png"`; do \ context=3D"`dirname $file`"; \ /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage= /usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/$size/$context; \ /bin/sh /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/adwaita-ico= n-theme-3.16.2.1/install-sh -c -m 644 ../../Adwaita/$size/$file /wrkdirs/us= r/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adwa= ita/$size/$file; \ done; \ done; Going to copy files for 8x8 Going to copy files for 16x16 Going to copy files for 22x22 Going to copy files for 24x24 Going to copy files for 32x32 Going to copy files for 48x48 Going to copy files for 256x256 gmake[4]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/fullcolor' gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/fullcolor' Making install in symbolic gmake[3]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/symbolic' gmake[4]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/symbolic' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for 'install-exec-am'. for size in ; do \ for file in `cd ../../Adwaita/$size; find . -name "*.png"`; do \ context=3D"`dirname $file`"; \ /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage= /usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/$size/$context; \ /bin/sh /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/adwaita-ico= n-theme-3.16.2.1/install-sh -c -m 644 ../../Adwaita/$size/$file /wrkdirs/us= r/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adwa= ita/$size/$file; \ done; \ done for file in `cd ../../Adwaita/scalable; find . -name "*.svg"`; do \ context=3D"`dirname $file`"; \ /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/= usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/scalable/$context; \ /bin/sh /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/adwaita-icon= -theme-3.16.2.1/install-sh -c -m 644 ../../Adwaita/scalable/$file /wrkdirs/= usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Ad= waita/scalable/$file; \ for size in ; do \ /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage= /usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/$size/$context; \ false ../../Adwaita/scalable/$file $size -o /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes= /adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/$size/$context= ; \ done \ done gmake[4]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/symbolic' gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/symbolic' Making install in spinner gmake[3]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/spinner' gmake[4]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/spinner' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for 'install-exec-am'. size=3D'scalable-up-to-32' for file in `cd ../../Adwaita/$size; find . -name "*.png"`; do \ context=3D"`dirname $file`"; \ /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/= stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/$size/$context; \ /bin/sh /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/adwait= a-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/install-sh -c -m 644 ../../Adwaita/$size/$file /wrkdi= rs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons= /Adwaita/$size/$file; \ done; \ for file in `cd ../../Adwaita/scalable-up-to-32; find . -name "*.svg"`; do \ context=3D"`dirname $file`"; \ /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/= usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/scalable-up-to-32/$context; \ /bin/sh /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/adwaita-icon= -theme-3.16.2.1/install-sh -c -m 644 ../../Adwaita/scalable-up-to-32/$file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share= /icons/Adwaita/scalable-up-to-32/$file; \ done gmake[4]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/spinner' gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src/spinner' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src' gmake[4]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for 'install-exec-am'. gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for 'install-data-am'. gmake[4]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src' gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src' gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/src' gmake[2]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for 'install-exec-am'. /bin/mkdir -p '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage= /usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/cursors' install -m 0644 ./Adwaita/cursors/zoom-in ./Adwaita/cursors/xterm ./Adwai= ta/cursors/crosshair ./Adwaita/cursors/fd_double_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/wa= tch ./Adwaita/cursors/9d800788f1b08800ae810202380a0822 ./Adwaita/cursors/to= p_left_corner ./Adwaita/cursors/dnd-none ./Adwaita/cursors/sb_up_arrow ./Ad= waita/cursors/right_side ./Adwaita/cursors/left_side ./Adwaita/cursors/3085= a0e285430894940527032f8b26df ./Adwaita/cursors/cross ./Adwaita/cursors/help= ./Adwaita/cursors/top_left_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/hand ./Adwaita/cursors/= left_tee ./Adwaita/cursors/top_right_corner ./Adwaita/cursors/left_ptr_help= ./Adwaita/cursors/draped_box ./Adwaita/cursors/diamond_cross ./Adwaita/cur= sors/3ecb610c1bf2410f44200f48c40d3599 ./Adwaita/cursors/bottom_side ./Adwai= ta/cursors/top_side ./Adwaita/cursors/right_ptr ./Adwaita/cursors/e29285e63= 4086352946a0e7090d73106 ./Adwaita/cursors/ll_angle ./Adwaita/cursors/zoom-o= ut ./Adwaita/cursors/v_double_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/bottom_right_corner .= /Adwaita/cursors/circle ./Adwaita/cursors/hand1 ./Adwaita/cursors/bottom_te= e ./Adwaita/cursors/640fb0e74195791501fd1ed57b41487f ./Adwaita/cursors/14fe= f782d02440884392942c11205230 ./Adwaita/cursors/dnd-ask ./Adwaita/cursors/mo= ve ./Adwaita/cursors/crossed_circle ./Adwaita/cursors/sb_v_double_arrow ./A= dwaita/cursors/target '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/wor= k/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/cursors' install -m 0644 ./Adwaita/cursors/double_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/icon ./A= dwaita/cursors/dotbox ./Adwaita/cursors/dot_box_mask ./Adwaita/cursors/sb_d= own_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/tcross ./Adwaita/cursors/4498f0e0c1937ffe01fd06= f973665830 ./Adwaita/cursors/dnd-move ./Adwaita/cursors/left_ptr ./Adwaita/= cursors/03b6e0fcb3499374a867c041f52298f0 ./Adwaita/cursors/cross_reverse ./= Adwaita/cursors/bd_double_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/vertical-text ./Adwaita/c= ursors/5c6cd98b3f3ebcb1f9c7f1c204630408 ./Adwaita/cursors/sb_right_arrow ./= Adwaita/cursors/bottom_left_corner ./Adwaita/cursors/9081237383d90e509aa00f= 00170e968f ./Adwaita/cursors/2870a09082c103050810ffdffffe0204 ./Adwaita/cur= sors/grab ./Adwaita/cursors/arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/08e8e1c95fe2fc01f976f1e= 063a24ccd ./Adwaita/cursors/plus ./Adwaita/cursors/draft_small ./Adwaita/cu= rsors/lr_angle ./Adwaita/cursors/left_ptr_watch ./Adwaita/cursors/pointer-m= ove ./Adwaita/cursors/draft_large ./Adwaita/cursors/pencil ./Adwaita/cursor= s/question_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/fcf1c3c7cd4491d801f1e1c78f100000 ./Adwai= ta/cursors/sb_h_double_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/dnd-copy ./Adwaita/cursors/t= op_tee ./Adwaita/cursors/028006030e0e7ebffc7f7070c0600140 ./Adwaita/cursors= /fleur ./Adwaita/cursors/copy ./Adwaita/cursors/ul_angle ./Adwaita/cursors/= X_cursor ./Adwaita/cursors/link ./Adwaita/cursors/sb_left_arrow '/wrkdirs/u= sr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adw= aita/cursors' install -m 0644 ./Adwaita/cursors/dnd-link ./Adwaita/cursors/all-scroll .= /Adwaita/cursors/hand2 ./Adwaita/cursors/grabbing ./Adwaita/cursors/h_doubl= e_arrow ./Adwaita/cursors/right_tee ./Adwaita/cursors/6407b0e94181790501fd1= e167b474872 ./Adwaita/cursors/ur_angle ./Adwaita/cursors/1081e37283d9000080= 0003c07f3ef6bf ./Adwaita/cursors/d9ce0ab605698f320427677b458ad60b ./Adwaita= /cursors/c7088f0f3e6c8088236ef8e1e3e70000 ./Adwaita/cursors/pirate ./Adwait= a/cursors/00008160000006810000408080010102 '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/a= dwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/cursors' gmake -C po uninstall gmake[4]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/po' linguas=3D"af am an ar as ast az be be@latin bg bn bn_IN br bs ca ca@valenc= ia crh cs csb cy da de dz el en_CA en_GB en@shaw eo es et eu fa fi fr fur f= y ga gd gl gu he hi hr hu id is it ja ka kk km kn ko ku li lt lv mai mg mk = ml mn mr ms nb nds ne nhn nl nn oc or pa pl ps pt pt_BR ro ru rw si sk sl s= q sr sr@latin sv ta te tg th tk tr ug uk uz uz@cyrillic vi wa xh zh_CN zh_H= K zh_TW "; \ for lang in $linguas; do \ rm -f /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/loc= al//locale/$lang/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo; \ rm -f /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/loc= al//locale/$lang/LC_MESSAGES/adwaita-icon-theme.mo.m; \ done gmake[4]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1/po' if [ -h /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/loc= al/share/icons/Adwaita ]; then \ rm -f /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/loca= l/share/icons/Adwaita; \ fi if [ -d /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/loc= al/share/icons/Adwaita ]; then \ touch /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/loca= l/share/icons/Adwaita; \ fi /bin/mkdir -p '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage= /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig' install -m 0644 adwaita-icon-theme.pc '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwa= ita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig' /bin/mkdir -p '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage= /usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita' install -m 0644 index.theme '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-t= heme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita' gmake install-data-hook gmake[4]: Entering directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-th= eme/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1' if test -z "/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme/work/stage" &&= test -n "/usr/local/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache" ; then \ /usr/local/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache -q /wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwa= ita-icon-theme/work/stage/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita; \ fi gmake[4]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1' gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1' gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1' gmake[1]: Leaving directory '/wrkdirs/usr/ports/x11-themes/adwaita-icon-the= me/work/adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1' =3D=3D=3D=3D> Compressing man pages (compress-man) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D> Building package for adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D>> Cleaning up wrkdir =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1 Build failed: clean_pool build of x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme ended at Tue Dec 8 22:19:10 CET 2015 build time: 00:08:01 !!! build failure encountered !!! --=20 Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, =F0=9F=8C=90 http://www.unixare= a.de/ =E2=98=8E +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 07:50:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4922E9D4DEC for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 07:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 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(envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:50:21 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove all installed packages Message-ID: <20151209075021.GA1746@c720-r285885-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64> <20151208202917.GA2269@c720-r285885-amd64> <20151208232227.GA65909@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20151208232227.GA65909@neutralgood.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r285885 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.9.43 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 07:50:27 -0000 El día Tuesday, December 08, 2015 a las 06:22:27PM -0500, kpneal@pobox.com escribió: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:29:17PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El día Tuesday, December 08, 2015 a las 12:21:54PM -0800, Brian W. escribió: > > > > > That /usr/local rm is gross overkill. If you have the old pkg system an ls > > > of /var/db/pkg with the results sent to pkg_del would work. > > > > Sorry, I was asking to remove completely all ports installed with > > pkg(8), and this in a fast way w/o going through all dependencies; just > > to prepare for a complete fresh installation. > > It also deletes any customized configuration files in "/usr/local/etc". > > If you must go this route then make a point of not accidentally deleting > something you'll have wanted to keep. I maintain a list of all modified or added files below /usr/local, and based on this backups of them; thanks for all hints, yours and others; matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, 🌐 http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 08:03:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7BC9D5A3C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F4021724 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tB983akH060883 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:03:36 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tB983akH060883 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tB983akH060883; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: poudriere error on clean-up To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151209074129.GA1676@c720-r285885-amd64> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5667E057.9030409@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:03:35 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151209074129.GA1676@c720-r285885-amd64> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BP0KDGtvelGNEecpRCojEMb1trOe1ahPt" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 08:03:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BP0KDGtvelGNEecpRCojEMb1trOe1ahPt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/12/2015 07:41, Matthias Apitz wrote: > =3D=3D=3D=3D>> Cleaning up wrkdir > =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for adwaita-icon-theme-3.16.2.1 > Build failed: clean_pool > build of x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme ended at Tue Dec 8 22:19:10 CET= 2015 > build time: 00:08:01 > !!! build failure encountered !!! This indicates a problem with the port. Files are left behind changing the contents of the build jail even after the work areas have been cleaned up. Or permissions / ownership has been changed outside the build areas. Which means the port is writing in places it shouldn't. If you're feeling keen, you could work out exactly what is getting changed and maybe even how to fix that. The poudriere testport options that leave the build jail running and open an interactive session within it are your friends here. Report your findings in a PR and they should get applied to the ports eventually. 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From: =?UTF-8?Q?fran=C3=A7ai_s?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 12:46:53 -0000 I forgot to talk about the following: Exist administrator and moderator of FreeBSD Forums that is enrolled in freebsd-questions mailing list? If yes and if the administrators and moderators of FreeBSD Forums that are enrolled in freebsd-questions mailing list that are reading this message, please erase all messages that I should not have posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums. If no, I ask to someone to that ask to the administrators and moderators of FreeBSD Forums to that read and answer this message. I used differents nicks also in FreeBSD Forums, for example: decret: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/thundercache-for-dynamic-content.44122/ apple: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/documentation-translation-help.44595/ http://archive-org.com/page/3491382/2014-01-08/http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=42856 assembler: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/the-bsdstats-project-failed.46746/ It's possible to do what I are asking, in other words, erase all messages that I should not have posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 12:54:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE3B9D5D30 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 12:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky1252@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT004-OMC4S44.hotmail.com (snt004-omc4s44.hotmail.com [65.54.51.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48BC8186E for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 12:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky1252@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT146-W44 ([65.55.90.201]) by SNT004-OMC4S44.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 9 Dec 2015 04:53:01 -0800 X-TMN: [l1vF1er7/FIX8hJmkrCmHwSirv+B2tXU] X-Originating-Email: [ricky1252@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Ricky G CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: remove all installed packages Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 07:53:01 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20151208200303.GA2194@c720-r285885-amd64>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2015 12:53:01.0585 (UTC) FILETIME=[89943810:01D13280] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 12:54:08 -0000 I think your looking for pkg remove `pkg query %o` = From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 13:14:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409999D4E25; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 13:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0599A1305; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 13:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from [80.67.16.130] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a6eZ3-0001et-1u; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:13:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:13:46 +0100 From: Markus Hoenicka To: =?UTF-8?Q?fran=C3=A7ai_s?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 13:14:51 -0000 At 2015-12-09 13:46, françai s was heard to say: > I forgot to talk about the following: > > Exist administrator and moderator of FreeBSD Forums that is enrolled in > freebsd-questions mailing list? > > If yes and if the administrators and moderators of FreeBSD Forums that > are > enrolled in freebsd-questions mailing list that are reading this > message, > please erase all messages that I should not have posted in FreeBSD > Forums > that are written in FreeBSD Forums. > > If no, I ask to someone to that ask to the administrators and > moderators of > FreeBSD Forums to that read and answer this message. > > I used differents nicks also in FreeBSD Forums, for example: > > decret: > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/thundercache-for-dynamic-content.44122/ > > apple: > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/documentation-translation-help.44595/ > > http://archive-org.com/page/3491382/2014-01-08/http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=42856 > > assembler: > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/the-bsdstats-project-failed.46746/ > > > It's possible to do what I are asking, in other words, erase all > messages > that I should not have posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in > FreeBSD > Forums? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Along these lines, why don't you compile an overview of all your nicks and of all individual messages that you ever sent and post it right here? I mean, you're actively pointing future employers to the stuff you're embarrassed about and you probably won't stop anytime soon before realizing that this makes matters even worse. A few additional ideas: mail address phone number pictures of yourself social security no. Just be creative. Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 14:16:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4399D5D7D for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm3-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm3-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85C1A1A35 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1449670466; bh=nNrdmH0xw+fzU4enJVSEvSEViCHSVVA3kFjDgkaFXUU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=bhzzhia0u4+pT2dA/WaOZUELmNf2jAo/ZLFpX2/yKly5dfAD1q3VU+I+Y//urJEE7ytiWlyTDBAiYZjzbzLLKI8u+ErcQPa2UmREHrAcF5g/51KUE4WDsLtwQU5067WD7ltX2hQ3VyxMm3LyQ9JfraW3yX0qYTghQBgYuR+aJAOFaJJw6pJZzdbT7kJ87+02AilgPhvIRfrNN0ptlkjjurciZcedooaeucLypCZALBnMye9qXZ5mbe7CK3hw0l/2KnX9ue0tS9ppivyrofCCYWijvT+b3FkoDLqa6+GwAPya/Yj2KS+51Sm4IOTQ/okz7CryEMpbGMykWel9XwZU6w== Received: from [212.82.98.60] by nm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 14:14:26 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.70] by tm13.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 14:14:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 14:14:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 855291.85716.bm@smtp107.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: lesZB74VM1lOJIIp9LPN_dJ7rl.UNVqziHGdFmJjf4oeQGO ioxRUnRb511W4_3qgipPcf5zqHGLJ41O4vcr0q9VPu6c4vhp.v.ZA1vxi.Fo aYnpJQ5xAe6AetaI33YCPcRdkTnu4PB6nBFuqwb9_gkZBNQJxftKev6FHHzv G0kDR7Fjhx3DuBRjT41CdRyGyDJNd4f.gVc2rfk2KbxuySUKPWc4hTxBOL_V 4WkczlRhoXtjRZrGZXGfoYOBV7ehfZRya5JP4A8mmnKGtjJWuJvT0vdwkAtH 0ocvkm_KER2Fdjz6Cj2tWnhidgJ4wWwj.B9XB15wakUA9A2SFSiWeKNciofy bsWFIFlm0ABIUScbs9hAXUzDnQIK4GOQ.S1byw9nkWpOMBWdOcxy8ozBQ8EU oWjZpHHpuoxYO806QcCmlRWZrZxflu0NSUgqmiuekN.06DkiaSAufT4_TDYl 0npFboYodgOYChL9y57km7G0R090rGv2fI9d6rrAx2TmzJ_Tcx.GbsqETlsQ glEuRcRf7MlDBoqyPTpf8oCZHejB1FZc- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:14:25 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! Message-ID: <20151209151425.62039e4e@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0-13-g4ff162b (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:16:54 -0000 On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:13:46 +0100, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >Along these lines, why don't you compile an overview of all your nicks >and of all individual messages that you ever sent and post it right >here? I mean, you're actively pointing future employers to the stuff >you're embarrassed about and you probably won't stop anytime soon >before realizing that this makes matters even worse. A few additional >ideas: > >mail address >phone number >pictures of yourself >social security no. > >Just be creative. :D On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:07:35 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: >Ralf's a runner-up with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect > >but William's the clear winner for succinctness: "Good luck with that!" My favourite is: On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 04:41:06 +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: >Did the Microsoft paperclick assistant tell you to ask for that? The best help for the OP would be to read the Streisand Wiki. If I search for evil messages in the Internet I wrote ten years ago, I usually find evil messages I wrote 10 days ago and not a single message I wrote that long ago. However, I'm not the only one with the name Ralf Mardorf, so if I would stop using my old email addresses, telephone numbers, etc. I could claim that all those mails are from another person with the same name. Usually forums and mailing lists provide easy to find information how to contact admins and moderators, but even if an admin or moderator would be willing to delete a thread, this doesn't help very much, so perhaps William is the clear winner regarding good advices, but it requires some thinking to understand it as an advice. Perhaps everybody of us who replied to the OP's thread fall for something intended by the OP. Could somebody please delete my replies to this thread? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 14:26:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF05E9D44F7 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AAC9106C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1449671068; bh=BLe9JO2zFWTzWtF9ljrwdEo507SacSYBz62UM7pIGk0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=sFNgvTC+eKntB8bHBeXmfHwNWfwWJjDImlcQ9UARQqdcPFaLmhqOB21TW5VHAy+lSm2c1GXyJfwW0HjQRsieQjCQqxqylIwO6WMryC24X4/fWHHKkOC9PkysL/7n6LIRNvWptV+23Qs4abCfx+8VXRurfhep1isjhQp9Y49iu1tAsz3oQpFmKdvcMWd58enEXLcn/1OcMFjcZqzwKMod1wxwyU9HYgbyoKtDbyqTYMnwTJvnFBp/SmdRenuk9ohfchQqSVVg9SbUNSCZUsBA4KvAsmdLSeMuf5sXdm6bJYPdR6lOPr4T+J2nCtNp7ZcGGhcmlJhttrsAR6ARM9TiQw== Received: from [212.82.98.60] by nm22.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 14:24:28 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.71] by tm13.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 14:24:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 14:24:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 323349.8605.bm@smtp108.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 6I4RUUIVM1nUQkykCQJpm.T6DX3RE5AcQVdBbmgLzASmMD5 aktv3WLxcXL5Y0Isr0mNbwhMYIRhplRxbuApRh47ll9CSxzYIhNzYc.oKFMb BGxnccb.8bBw7NL0zk0NDlfDt1JqTqY5r7fSFvtiwZVNybXl9nyjkZdlNffc Ck5.MIBDPxiFaKYhRqw3oE5.OAgdAqms_u.Blqu7xm3ecTHgzauIxzJym15R fIEuWf4NE7uSkC4S7larLhnEdpiwTo7DTwP_ILyX1cwE.DIUq8FDxYGyzUt5 bBfv9wGlZk95lPnfFeHTeIFucYiKG3fhtjD_I5UpDsuKod8993BL13XPR6js Pw9XOWPndvlZXstuKOxXO2ZW7V7nToYX05neTL3vEPCLye7pSx08RDf_Cw.R LcM3bPydHpiFsXjrIxWAc41tBWoazw_gR.cs1qph_E0NetbvX8x7Dg02b8Ub Sc2MN4AGNnQGzqmjcdH_PkhcAaVhXuCT3Y40SWaW3POuc0Yel_6b.ehoMpXf s07QtO7gv8w4n85dp0a25VFLV_EcQAa5F_uhck7x7CxIOI1MJAVLDLKQYzAf mzSI- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:24:27 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! Message-ID: <20151209152427.2b0a8b01@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0-13-g4ff162b (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:26:12 -0000 PS: http://www.ebay.com/bhp/neuralyzer From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 14:41:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6255B9D56CC for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27EC71AEA for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [93.104.9.43] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1a6fw4-0006GS-AX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 15:41:40 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r285885-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id tB9Efc9N003498 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:41:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id tB9EfcMc003497 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:41:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:41:37 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! Message-ID: <20151209144137.GA3398@c720-r285885-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151209152427.2b0a8b01@archlinux.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20151209152427.2b0a8b01@archlinux.localdomain> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r285885 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.9.43 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:41:46 -0000 Can you please move all this to some other mailing list! This is a technical one for FreeBSD. Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, 🌐 http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 15:24:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C97B9D460E for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14EC31F50 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21B263CF65; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tB9FOkFk002018; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:24:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:24:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?fran=E7ai?= s Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! Message-Id: <20151209162446.3a698988.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 15:24:57 -0000 On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:46:51 -0200, fran=E7ai s wrote: > I forgot to talk about the following: >=20 > Exist administrator and moderator of FreeBSD Forums that is enrolled in > freebsd-questions mailing list? That's possible, but you should send your request directly to the responsible person, instead of assuming or hoping they are "reading along" on a different medium. > It's possible to do what I are asking, in other words, erase all messages > that I should not have posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeB= SD > Forums? As others have replied more or less politely, what you're asking for _might_ be possible, but it is futile. Let's assume a mailing list administrator or a forum moderator actually deletes all your posts. What about their copies in mailing list archives and web caches that are not under the control of said administrators? What about messages that users of the lists or the forum have saved locally? You have no way to delete them. Nobody has. And you can't even get evidence about location and responsibility for every _copy_ of your messages, wherever they may reside... Maybe it sounds harsh, but I don't mean to be insulting: What has been posted cannot be unposted. DEAL WITH IT. Also keep in mind that the Internet never forgets (except the really interesting and important stuff maybe). :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 15:54:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A08F9D5D81 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F10CE1225 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([95.88.166.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LgIWi-1acmA00ew8-00nfsU for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 16:54:16 +0100 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 16:54:15 +0100 Message-ID: <5475394.tzi9gdkkBP@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p24; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:1W9PW+c0oPGS7xYA1l7eFKdDMN0X1Hspn+VroTE59xKD6kHuzmh lTzKH/qyO4jAFRuj5oTMDx7Io0wIO7Wij/Z4FoRm3wlDklutY9a4y9+6yOwMf1GuQOueSEt gAqZAz50zkKX1WwwB5FSSfBuMX5qqNVRnQrSABFgYpqskUQR520HmdiGT9AQV7m1LicppEB x0k8TYBAjcH02MVUgfLVQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:KYlnI5QX5i4=:G8IXv9qWzt43MqX36wT7tS nC5s/69l62SkA1wD0KxHeZ0AJdsIqd/Xn6L3q/prwAS9B6Ye5XiJiIBzMP2VFm5++K1Nswxz6 gwjVytk5K/8yIPQVFQcukALy2Ke7yJswA2iDHuHTHEeKymwY6qlmDm6vftX2RtldMrdTUcmHq qwNkJm5tH+NWUewrOiEFCpC3l9hHcM22UAXLuzsqh4Rie2IlKpNgt6SgERaODQBu9ajw/59oY 87d20ZgiMcJlbvPQSBqvLhf/x9Bx9qvxWio6CYBFzmQocZVSnfal/yBUInfuU4rEdRR8AFdfh qwqb0YdH1giWX9ytAc8Nbg0AssoSSUwLKx1UUY97kxA22h0oEZQN8B2Yed+M/W1sv34c3+3yC fs02OeOR46/3rGcoOjv67VDGBKOQokEtHHmkN6yVMBc6qlLvQxotp1uR/WOz2mQ4vfjrTVe3G eVRB96E1oKSdCrEiYjrHGtN1Vd3SQz53DTTj5pP5j7IUM/73YK9dQicrm2t1U8/JKVuNwKYOt Kv1w7LrNeJtVyWdehndHZJGi7eUBtsrOmuM1qJD1JnZP8897zEFY6XWm5ooHWES1zHlrYrCl/ jXpZKjFGedJ0fKvo9GVInNpkF3T+9Pwvd7GsjvATWcCxZKVYURTiwTy1K2x1tQlGRjNrIORAR DsSIYWRI30UnISBOEQ+GdgJtx+Cr5xvlXxcEZ1zg/llBG7t1q2qVAH7b8x1vJ7rTytb9ytLdl EO/Axc0PFR7t2v/DSsbYaPh6pFk5W3RDBHxr779VaOMEoQBx1gCuRr/7WLABtld+tSEI8f190 vIXcjls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 15:54:24 -0000 Michael Ross wrote: > You can put it in a file > > #!/usr/local/bin/lftp > open sftp://user:pass@host > mirror -v --reverse --dereference ... Is there an easy way to pass parameters to that file? I'd like to be able to pass in different source and target directories to the mirror command. Meanwhile, I figured out how one is supposed to use the -c option correctly: lftp -c "connect sftp://$SFTP_USERNAME:$SFTP_PASSWORD@$SFTP_SERVER && \ mirror -v --reverse --dereference --delete --overwrite \ --exclude-glob *.swp $LOCAL_DIR $REMOTE_DIR; \ quit" That's at least not as messy as the Expect script. > That gives you about a week before the script actually exits. The way I see it, that gives the server about a week to finally get its stuff together. ;-) Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 16:25:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4979D4508 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0062F10BA for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tB9GPBUV025973 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:25:12 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: More static link questions To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Message-ID: <566855E7.9050603@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:30:41 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 16:25:14 -0000 I am still having issues statically linking some inhouse code. I (tried to) (re)arrange the linker args in my Makefile to link what can be statically-linked statically & the rest dynamically, see below. . . . chmod: /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static: No such file or directory *** [/usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static] Error code 1 (ignored) ar xv /home/wam/V8/Cnx/test/junk/cart/unstaggered/bfc/pre/../lib/R4/opteron/libmaiPre.a Main.o x - Main.o gcc5 -o /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static -Wl,-s,--allow-multiple-definition,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc5 Main.o -L/home/wam/V8/Cnx/test/junk/cart/unstaggered /bfc/pre/../lib/R4/opteron -L/home/wam/lib/R4 -L/usr/lib64/openmotif -Wl,--start-group -lmaiPre -lPre -lPrecxx -lutils -lftndmp -lftnO2pre -lftnO2 -lBC_Phi -license -Wl,--end-group -lMemIO -lMotif -lStdHash -lmpi -ltet -lgomp -lMrm -lXm -lXt -lGL -lGLU -lGLw -lX11 -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lm -static-libgcc -lstdc++ -static-libstdc++ -Bs tatic -lgfortran -static-libgfortran && \rm -f Main.o chmod -fv go+rx,a-w /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static Done with /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static. . . . From the compile box: [wam@devbox, pre, 10:05:02am] 4226 % uname -a FreeBSD devbox 9.3-RELEASE-p30 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p30 #0: Mon Nov 2 10:11:50 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [wam@devbox, pre, 10:05:05am] 4227 % However, when I copy the statically linked executables over to another FreeBSD 9.3R box (this one, as it happens) & try to run it, I get the following: [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:51:46am] 906 % ll -tr LIST /usr/local/bin/[B,P]* /usr/local/bin/*WAM* /usr/local/bin/*et*en* ; ps -Taux ; uname -a ; /sbin/hwclock -r ; date lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20 Aug 27 2014 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST@ -> PreBFCGL.TEST.static lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 23 Aug 27 2014 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST.R8@ -> PreBFCGL.TEST.static.R8 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15071 Mar 18 2015 /usr/local/bin/POST* -rw------- 1 wam users 437 Jul 11 23:13 LIST -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 11197960 Aug 7 05:40 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.SSE4.1.TEST.static* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 11211944 Aug 7 05:40 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.SSE4.1.TEST.static.R8* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 420 Aug 20 13:15 /usr/local/bin/rarian-sk-get-extended-content-list* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 400 Aug 20 13:15 /usr/local/bin/rarian-sk-get-content-list* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 35 Aug 20 13:15 /usr/local/bin/scrollkeeper-get-extended-content-list@ -> rarian-sk-get-extended-content-list lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 Aug 20 13:15 /usr/local/bin/scrollkeeper-get-content-list@ -> rarian-sk-get-content-list -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2299 Oct 10 22:20 /usr/local/bin/pamstretch-gen* -r-x------ 1 wam wheel 4140184 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/BFC.opteron.TEST.static.R8* -r-x------ 1 wam wheel 4038096 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/BFC.opteron.TEST.static.R4* -r-x------ 1 wam wheel 4033688 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/BFC.bdver1.TEST.static.R8* -r-x------ 1 wam wheel 4047376 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/BFC.bdver1.TEST.static.R4* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 30 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST.static.R8@ -> PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static.R8 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST.static@ -> PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 6472832 Dec 9 09:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static.R8* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 6500736 Dec 9 09:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 6574464 Dec 9 09:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.barcelona.TEST.static* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 6518848 Dec 9 09:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.barcelona.TEST.static.R8* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 6422688 Dec 9 09:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static.R8* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 6488448 Dec 9 09:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static* USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND wam 73608 0.0 0.0 16304 2168 32 R+ 10:03AM 0:00.00 ps -Taux wam 81998 0.0 0.1 91408 20712 32 S 1Nov15 0:45.31 xterm -sl 5000 -maximized -rv wam 95269 0.0 0.0 18616 4288 32 Ss 12Oct15 0:02.51 tcsh FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 /sbin/hwclock: Command not found. Wed Dec 9 10:03:28 MCST 2015 [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:03:28am] 907 % PreBFCGL.TEST /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version GLIBCXX_3.4.11 required by /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST not found [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:03:30am] 908 % PreBFCGL.TEST.static /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version GLIBCXX_3.4.11 required by /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST.static not found [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:03:55am] 909 % PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version GLIBCXX_3.4.11 required by /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static not found [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:04:05am] 910 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:06:43am] 911 % I found that I needed both the '-lstdc++ -static-libstdc++' in the link line or the C++ stuff didn't get linked in (i.e., '-static-libstdc++' alone doesn't link). The man page for gcc5 carefully mentions using 'g++' to link C++ code, while mentioning GCC for other static-linker options, is that my problem here ? If not, any clues what is :-) ? TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 16:51:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D316B9D59EB for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B8931115 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tB9Gpqvr019929 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:51:54 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: ongoing link issues Message-ID: <56685C28.9020009@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:57:22 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 16:51:55 -0000 I am still trying to statically link my inhouse code. I switched to using g++5 in the link line: . . . chmod: /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static: No such file or directory *** [/usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static] Error code 1 (ignored) ar xv /home/wam/V8/Cnx/test/junk/cart/unstaggered/bfc/pre/../lib/R4/opteron/libmaiPre.a Main.o x - Main.o g++5 -o /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static -Wl,-s,--allow-multiple-definition,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc5 Main.o -L/home/wam/V8/Cnx/test/junk/cart/unstaggered /bfc/pre/../lib/R4/opteron -L/home/wam/lib/R4 -L/usr/lib64/openmotif -Wl,--start-group -lmaiPre -lPre -lPrecxx -lutils -lftndmp -lftnO2pre -lftnO2 -lBC_Phi -license -Wl,--end-group -lMemIO -lMotif -lStdHash -lmpi -ltet -lgomp -lMrm -lXm -lXt -lGL -lGLU -lGLw -lX11 -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lm -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -Bstatic -lg fortran -static-libgfortran && \rm -f Main.o chmod -fv go+rx,a-w /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static Done with /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static. . . . Compile-box specifics: [wam@devbox, pre, 10:55:11am] 4252 % uname -a FreeBSD devbox 9.3-RELEASE-p30 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p30 #0: Mon Nov 2 10:11:50 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [wam@devbox, pre, 10:55:23am] 4253 % Now I see:[wam@kabini1, ~, 10:48:52am] 916 % ll -tr LIST /usr/local/bin/[B,P]* /usr/local/bin/*WAM* /usr/local/bin/*et*en* ; ps -Taux ; uname -a ; /sbin/hwclock -r ; date lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20 Aug 27 2014 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST@ -> PreBFCGL.TEST.static lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 23 Aug 27 2014 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST.R8@ -> PreBFCGL.TEST.static.R8 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15071 Mar 18 2015 /usr/local/bin/POST* -rw------- 1 wam users 437 Jul 11 23:13 LIST -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 11197960 Aug 7 05:40 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.SSE4.1.TEST.static* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 11211944 Aug 7 05:40 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.SSE4.1.TEST.static.R8* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 420 Aug 20 13:15 /usr/local/bin/rarian-sk-get-extended-content-list* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 400 Aug 20 13:15 /usr/local/bin/rarian-sk-get-content-list* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 35 Aug 20 13:15 /usr/local/bin/scrollkeeper-get-extended-content-list@ -> rarian-sk-get-extended-content-list lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 Aug 20 13:15 /usr/local/bin/scrollkeeper-get-content-list@ -> rarian-sk-get-content-list -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2299 Oct 10 22:20 /usr/local/bin/pamstretch-gen* -r-x------ 1 wam wheel 4140184 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/BFC.opteron.TEST.static.R8* -r-x------ 1 wam wheel 4038096 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/BFC.opteron.TEST.static.R4* -r-x------ 1 wam wheel 4033688 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/BFC.bdver1.TEST.static.R8* -r-x------ 1 wam wheel 4047376 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/BFC.bdver1.TEST.static.R4* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 30 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST.static.R8@ -> PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static.R8 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27 Dec 7 07:39 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.TEST.static@ -> PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 7694632 Dec 9 10:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 7670440 Dec 9 10:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.opteron.TEST.static.R8* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 7765384 Dec 9 10:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.barcelona.TEST.static* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 7715496 Dec 9 10:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.barcelona.TEST.static.R8* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 7679592 Dec 9 10:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static* -r-xr-xr-x 1 wam wheel 7617416 Dec 9 10:50 /usr/local/bin/PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static.R8* USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND wam 76840 0.0 0.0 16304 2168 32 R+ 10:51AM 0:00.01 ps -Taux wam 81998 0.0 0.1 91408 20712 32 I 1Nov15 0:45.31 xterm -sl 5000 -maximized -rv wam 95269 0.0 0.0 18616 4288 32 Ss 12Oct15 0:02.54 tcsh FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 /sbin/hwclock: Command not found. Wed Dec 9 10:51:48 MCST 2015 [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:51:48am] 917 % PreBFCGL.TEST /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version GCC_4.6.0 required by /usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgfortran.so.3 not found [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:51:52am] 918 % PreBFCGL.TEST.static /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version GCC_4.6.0 required by /usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgfortran.so.3 not found [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:52:02am] 919 % PreBFCGL.bdver1.TEST.static /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version GCC_4.6.0 required by /usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgfortran.so.3 not found [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:52:04am] 920 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [wam@kabini1, ~, 10:52:07am] 921 % I'm sure it's pilot error, but I (think I) have iterated all combinations of (-static)-libgcc, (-static)-libstdc++ (-static)libgfortran & nothing seems to work .... *Any* clues appreciated :-/ .... TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 20:14:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E619D5A7A for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8BF1E88 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:42741] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 78/61-30442-CE988665; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:07:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a6l12-0001vO-Go for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 15:07:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151209162446.3a698988.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <566889EC.6090206@columbus.rr.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:07:08 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151209162446.3a698988.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:14:34 -0000 On 12/09/15 10:24, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:46:51 -0200, franai s wrote: >> I forgot to talk about the following: >> >> Exist administrator and moderator of FreeBSD Forums that is enrolled in >> freebsd-questions mailing list? > > That's possible, but you should send your request directly to > the responsible person, instead of assuming or hoping they are > "reading along" on a different medium. He is the "responsible person" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 20:17:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDDC9D5CCF for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18B7C1FF0 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tB9KHupa029806 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:17:57 -0600 Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151209162446.3a698988.freebsd@edvax.de> <566889EC.6090206@columbus.rr.com> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <56688C74.407@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:23:26 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566889EC.6090206@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:17:58 -0000 On 12/09/15 14:13, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 12/09/15 10:24, Polytropon wrote: >> On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:46:51 -0200, franai s wrote: >>> I forgot to talk about the following: >>> >>> Exist administrator and moderator of FreeBSD Forums that is enrolled in >>> freebsd-questions mailing list? >> >> That's possible, but you should send your request directly to >> the responsible person, instead of assuming or hoping they are >> "reading along" on a different medium. > > He is the "responsible person" *Boooooyah* !!!! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 20:48:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366FA9D50D6 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 025F11D54 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from [24.134.33.72] (helo=workstation) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1a6let-000520-An; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 21:48:19 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Patrick Hess" Subject: Re: Synchronizing directory hierarchies via SFTP References: <13761006.QDN0LtKzYl@desk8.phess.net> <24246596.8z5VK3yfqz@desk8.phess.net> <5475394.tzi9gdkkBP@desk8.phess.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 21:48:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5475394.tzi9gdkkBP@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.7/21146/Wed Dec 9 18:35:32 2015) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:48:28 -0000 Am .12.2015, 16:54 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Hess : > Michael Ross wrote: >> You can put it in a file >> >> #!/usr/local/bin/lftp #!/usr/local/bin/lftp -f Note the -f parameter, forgot that in the other post >> open sftp://user:pass@host >> mirror -v --reverse --dereference ... > > Is there an easy way to pass parameters to that file? > I'd like to be able to pass in different source and > target directories to the mirror command. > None that I know of. I use template files and do the parameter substitution with other tools. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 00:16:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4979D66E5 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCF1F1730 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=hrjRBb6lT/n7S61umgLmTRQ8zQ1EpXEinwADHHEirIM=; b=rA72aIOLmO2lmdszLBmg0miBSl vcc04WgTwJnFBeV70EeXPdBBAXWgaD39ucByxurRYTAScRIpqvj2rgERT6JP5iik79Z1sFPM36Vxw dRdo40t7niS0UTukudaGj7UxN3mVoXCkCHWXippU4VhXTOfjTk7N2isNtTuATZJ8CzWA=; Received: from [39.252.127.239] (port=33704 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a6ncz-000DN8-IU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 15:54:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 06:54:22 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! Message-ID: <20151210065422.6dcd9994@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:16:55 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:13:46 +0100 Markus Hoenicka wrote: > At 2015-12-09 13:46, fran=C3=A7ai s was heard to say: > > I forgot to talk about the following: >=20 > mail address > phone number > pictures of yourself and his desk, his fridge and his girl friends ... Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 05:12:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BC09D5FEB for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2114B1EE0 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id tBA560MQ037103 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 9 Dec 2015 21:06:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id tBA55xZk037097; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 21:05:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03079; Sun, 6 Dec 15 20:24:33 PST Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 20:24:31 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: vsasjason@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resizing a memstick image, on FreeBSD 8 Message-Id: <566509ff.g544Lh1bPOtUUjOv%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <566299bf.2z11XFWfUMRFyXGs%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <5663c0d6.8giker3InrIlK8n+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:12:40 -0000 Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2015-12-06 7:00 GMT+02:00 Perry Hutchison : > > Is it possible to accomplish that on the FreeBSD 8 system that I'm > > using to set things up for the FreeBSD 10.2 install? While it is > > the FreeBSD 8 kernel that suggests "recovery": > > GEOM: da2: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. > > GEOM: da2: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. > > > > the FreeBSD 8 gpart apparently does not understand "recover": > > # gpart recover da2 > > gpart: Unknown command: recover. ... > > I didn't find any mention of recovering from a missing or corrupted > > secondary GPT in either the FreeBSD 8 Handbook or the FreeBSD 8 > > gpart(8) manpage. > > You can recover GPT after updating to 10. Even if one of the GPT > copies corrupted, disk is fully functional. That depends how one defines "full" functionality. In this case, without resizing, it is not possible to create an additional partition so as to utilize the ~3GB of unused space on the "disk", e.g. for packages that one intends to install before having the network up and running. I suppose it would be possible to self-recover it (while running the live FS from it) -- the geom foot-shooting flag might need to be set -- but it does seem odd that the FreeBSD 8 kernel suggests "recovery" and yet the recovery mechanism is not easily found in the FreeBSD 8 documentation (if such a mechanism even exists). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 08:36:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940789D4F36 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 08:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@scatterlings.org) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67B161877 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 08:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@scatterlings.org) Received: by igcto18 with SMTP id to18so10404401igc.0 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:36:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scatterlings-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=jUlb8YW/pnkbZuGLGol+ggN6D+RxKWQz6N+4SGUEyxI=; b=KUANBBFSXYFPRvoSC2rkZpMo7miMSvcfBi5Ng48xR/HQfDkaWxVvd8ukLHijH1GINZ G8cZ40tMaJJlq+B1lTFia0xFKrajCluIYOLvQljgVs1JUlsYAUJK8vcgX2VBu8HHEoW4 rvaV5/TSW0WtMqA/j3HtOxLVENlhGAQXe0ky5XNOiEo5yKOT9WPfSKDpaUVOHAZyuIFf A+CGqC552SCOlXOjP/Fk8Zc28Le3qSdOsA0xxo9HxokdoorGNAySkwp97fSUNbLYv9oj YPmW4PCxCYo1TdgMSoFrYlit1zSw6l+fS3wCQ0lNb4Rwlkm+IqmWY3L8YK2kDmGJkApe EBNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jUlb8YW/pnkbZuGLGol+ggN6D+RxKWQz6N+4SGUEyxI=; b=DYT5LWyy2GPGE3hHbT2j6ZQQ08ePPdnJ/YDq2dDis20EZ/T/jVFDChQXKHhcm4juHF c8biBQ3frYQo4eIS1rtHDDWBidQiMWtNwRpfO3nX0bjSPwJF//QPFBvxgk7Y3nQbiWQ1 lBLRB3e8WJ877srSYOEwFUTwyZcnPyjk1ktGl36v6v1LTkSQcnDw6bU+5kHSXjNMwcrr gjmA8CT1mO5/TFX9QF0F76IDtV2T8J3Q0dnaVODQpw+7OnhY0YdMQ7U/FKzDtf/zD9Cp H2N5OGV3Zz/O5fr/ZnHAcmTFOdBT5eoJxg4SnqG93vGKQ1KGYZJzSqPfbwYG4pr5LoAL mTxg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlpHR+cPzViGQHwwHrgqjYJ4S1Ymgq84z8yjbn/wakGVd4UVp/kYeeWZHhVRbCDLKpuVs7qy27y79VHEKhBTZ/IKtpFhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.25.199 with SMTP id 190mr9828229ioz.37.1449736583634; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.174.146 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.174.146 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:36:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:36:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! From: Jonathan McKeown To: =?UTF-8?Q?fran=C3=A7ai_s?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 08:36:24 -0000 Oh, I remember you! For years you used sock-puppet accounts to post anti-FreeBSD messages and links to FreeBSD mailing lists - at one stage I kill filed *@outlook.com to avoid your messages. I'm glad you've changed your mind and I wish you luck in building a reputation. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 09:20:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DE99D62AF; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3D681F09; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id c201so22911594wme.0; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:20:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kDLflrP2DGYCOAKYh6KF9olgRBB9gtavhK2LPd/6dnM=; b=FS8kT8l0F7qiYeCrL6TTdGOKzEI2LMK50+b2fe014aqiHAlmyATiLOV4Ay8e3u9DSu 2oWiwsemC+kkwK40z06ob4HGjdGAbIC/nFjY+uVEwPgshbMIAsAHlFCgxcIo02r192UQ p+Kaswb4/n4e2J1pWOgPNciGhOGt0QEXc/lF3EHNqiAeZOHzbKFDEzzsxpFbiMpCqvM/ bOtJjprDJvQb1+wNumItE92Rxv+rEtFZ/uwAtS4wKF4HihGJvxe9f53dGTmJbCiDt+4H SVQfidSabwTySxXJodb+tBy7oNa7KsWujjZqI0vZJbESNCSjW8AJqj8BM4qUev4zoXxo 72Gg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.100.84 with SMTP id y81mr17918428wmb.48.1449739213238; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.181.213 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:20:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:20:13 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: ZFSROOT UEFI boot From: krad To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:20:15 -0000 Hi, I need to get one of my machines converted over from bios GPT zfsroot boot to efi. I know you can boot freebsd under EFI with a ufs kernel but this isnt the route i want. There are patches under test for EFI zfs root. However when I read the thread it was unclear which version of these patches were needed and where to get them. Does anyone know where they are, if there are any prebuilt zfsloader etc binaries, or if the patches have made it to head yet? Also does anyone have any pointers or good experience with grub efi and zfs on root? I'm considering this option as it would make booting into specific boot environments easier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 12:41:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547629D7F96 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E39761070 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@multiplay.co.uk) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id u63so22141800wmu.0 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 04:41:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=multiplay-co-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=KIBOdA4iANz+WGYnw1xeYPdMIIXj/+IPuMKGgdGZtZo=; b=lJjFhOxJGnkFboqwgR2r4pT3Zes8MPFTQp8P0hcrZVh1jwglaN86fEhX9syo8NJdLz IBSYYEPu7SvXTLBVv9L9Xfo6jap6wWzOARZDwmZ/17M0ZJMbjpOYc0IzWYbe1/jM/zrV fXI2luYJNnkLTyXFxGsdjUc2rtMHib7+vFldk09RvHczcsAtoqEYJnmOjBff6CEKkKCI vsx6mHczcJQ8MpTpoPPLGCmB9mRfVAGAj6GlMMjv9RJBoRUPqfszSRxiw2tIKlgUrFCl xW9oS2gkfueSW86kB/hF8HT+5mCcSzYNbhY+Fc1wWQ/5uEJ+cdSB2NZyvyCCnotpJXv4 g+Rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=KIBOdA4iANz+WGYnw1xeYPdMIIXj/+IPuMKGgdGZtZo=; b=cAl/Gs7f2AvdI3BTt3onTvALzeG91yMaw7AdJdaFJb1INlHt79UVE1/Ez9u83tjsPS +HXte59UXkvuKZQsiffCVkNcnL1ozVLk69xEp6HlM6BLeZ41WU+XKJQrTXBjH4AgidbR /7/8tH8yHCFcBSLX95jGI3jawjc7WT28IujRlap6Xws9c902zq2kaVWULldWOys7A730 FqIq5n6OsfObn51DHE6ybl6Y4geysuu2u8HNrjykcfREYfTCK7dYZcVbiDZHywJAGGy8 SuS1nZa61bLPPPt3hN6g5qtIFKPEtAJaMagoNdWfhu95CTzeRdj2q7rLC4nMv1F1dLSd wcYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkUhOpS3B3MlqfH2EiVqYSzzCy8GEvcmYTfb+bjTppKb1AgcR3d9V3uSbbjXG2rQR3933Q8HJF7Fx/FtGlHxjYu2wDulFwDwHK98TUjcd470A2M9Tw= X-Received: by 10.194.243.6 with SMTP id wu6mr12397354wjc.14.1449751276791; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 04:41:16 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Hartland Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:41:15 +0000 Message-ID: <8991747525093115430@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: ZFSROOT UEFI boot To: krad Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:41:19 -0000 Ive literally just got this working on 10.2 after working on the code posted on the review which you can find here: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D4104 If you're happy running current then the patch file I linked in my comment should apply cleanly and just work. If you want 10.x then there's quite a bit more needed. As I said I do have this working so can post patches when I'm back in the office. Either way once applied a standard efi install just works. Essentially create efi partition and use gpart to install the efi bootcode and away you go. I've just used this with a custom mfsbsd iso to perform and 10.2-RELEASE ZFS boot install on some Intel nvme disks setup as raidz2, which only support efi boot. On 10 Dec 2015, at 12:18, krad wrote: Hi, I need to get one of my machines converted over from bios GPT zfsroot boot to efi. I know you can boot freebsd under EFI with a ufs kernel but this isnt the route i want. There are patches under test for EFI zfs root. However when I read the thread it was unclear which version of these patches were needed and where to get them. Does anyone know where they are, if there are any prebuilt zfsloader etc binaries, or if the patches have made it to head yet? Also does anyone have any pointers or good experience with grub efi and zfs on root? I'm considering this option as it would make booting into specific boot environments easier _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 14:49:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA369D7E3C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 14:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfi@tf.uni-kiel.de) Received: from mhost.tf.uni-kiel.de (mhost.tf.uni-kiel.de [134.245.247.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E7BA1159 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 14:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfi@tf.uni-kiel.de) Received: from amavis.tf.uni-kiel.de (unknown [192.168.247.79]) by mhost.tf.uni-kiel.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBD813A5D50; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:40:17 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tf.uni-kiel.de Received: from mhost.tf.uni-kiel.de ([134.245.247.71]) by amavis.tf.uni-kiel.de (amavis.tf.uni-kiel.de [192.168.247.79]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id M5CkB0komJRM; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:40:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from fanty-a.tf.uni-kiel.de (fanty.tf.uni-kiel.de [134.245.247.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mhost.tf.uni-kiel.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45A6813A5D4C; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:40:08 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mfi@localhost) by fanty-a.tf.uni-kiel.de (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id tBAEe8fw022009; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:40:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mfi) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:40:08 +0100 From: Michael Firnau To: Aleksandr Miroslav Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best practice for locking down private jail? Message-ID: <20151210144007.GA23555@fanty-a.tf.uni-kiel.de> References: <20151203073923.17dae0c41a2b5e29a5b3a3dd@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 14:49:31 -0000 On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 06:45:16PM -0800, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > I would set up two jails - one as the upload jail the other the web > > server and use a cron job on the host to move verified mp3 files > > Excellent advice, I will do just that. I think the cron job isn't needed. Create a directory outside the jails and mount it as nullfs and 'rw' into the upload jail and 'ro' into the web server jail. We do this on a zfs basis. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 15:02:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB6F9D6825 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F92F19F4 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:02:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1a72jj-000Ir4-0o; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:02:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:02:24 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Michael Firnau Cc: Aleksandr Miroslav , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best practice for locking down private jail? Message-Id: <20151210150224.18d842126bf67bb0b07dcdf6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20151210144007.GA23555@fanty-a.tf.uni-kiel.de> References: <20151203073923.17dae0c41a2b5e29a5b3a3dd@sohara.org> <20151210144007.GA23555@fanty-a.tf.uni-kiel.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:02:53 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:40:08 +0100 Michael Firnau wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 06:45:16PM -0800, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith > > wrote: > > > I would set up two jails - one as the upload jail the other the web > > > server and use a cron job on the host to move verified mp3 files > > > > Excellent advice, I will do just that. > > I think the cron job isn't needed. Create a directory outside the jails > and mount it as nullfs and 'rw' into the upload jail and 'ro' into the > web server jail. We do this on a zfs basis. 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From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: gcc5-devel question Message-ID: <5669A8BB.3030602@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:36:21 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:31:00 -0000 I just did a 'pkg upgrade -y' when I noticed upgraded LibGL available. I was hoping it might include static versions of libGL/GLU/GLw, but no such luck. However, pkg did reinstall gcc5-devel-5.2.1.s20151124 due to changed options. I cd'ed to /usr/ports/lang/gcc5-devel & poked around a bit. I saw no files or directories dated today, the latest was dated Dec 02, the last time I upgraded & did a 'make install'. I did a find in /usr/ports & /usr/ports/lang/gcc5-devel was all there was. Did the compiler indeed get reinstalled ? If so, where :-) ? Also, when I did a 'make showconfig', it showed graphite support ready to go (*yippeeee*, kudos), but no executable that I could locate on short notice. Do I still need to compile it up, or is there an executable ready to go somewhere not-so-obvious to me :-) ? When I last compiled it up last week, I did a 'make install FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=1' which overwrote /usr/local/bin/gcc5 (not a huge issue, but still ....), how do I tell it to install the executable under a different name ? BTW, I am *NOT* particularly familiar w/ the 'GNU way', so pardon me if this is a bit noobish :-/ .... TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 16:56:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593DA9D5C6D; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B297173E; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBAGujYr030608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:56:46 -0600 Subject: Re: gcc5-devel question To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! , FreeBSD toolchain mailing list !!!! References: <5669A8BB.3030602@hiwaay.net> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <5669AECD.8020604@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:02:15 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5669A8BB.3030602@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:56:48 -0000 On 12/10/15 10:35, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I just did a 'pkg upgrade -y' when I noticed upgraded LibGL available. > I was hoping it might include static versions of libGL/GLU/GLw, but no > such luck. However, pkg did reinstall gcc5-devel-5.2.1.s20151124 due > to changed options. I cd'ed to /usr/ports/lang/gcc5-devel & poked > around a bit. I saw no files or directories dated today, the latest > was dated Dec 02, the last time I upgraded & did a 'make install'. I > did a find in /usr/ports & /usr/ports/lang/gcc5-devel was all there > was. Did the compiler indeed get reinstalled ? If so, where :-) ? > > Also, when I did a 'make showconfig', it showed graphite support ready > to go (*yippeeee*, kudos), but no executable that I could locate on > short notice. Do I still need to compile it up, or is there an > executable ready to go somewhere not-so-obvious to me :-) ? > > When I last compiled it up last week, I did a 'make install > FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=1' which overwrote /usr/local/bin/gcc5 (not a huge > issue, but still ....), how do I tell it to install the executable > under a different name ? BTW, I am *NOT* particularly familiar w/ the > 'GNU way', so pardon me if this is a bit noobish :-/ .... TIA & have a > good one. > > A bit more info, sorry for the omissions: [wam@devbox, utils, 11:00:55am] 4458 % ( lltr /usr/local/bin/*gcc* ) -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 643768 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc48* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 24880 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-ranlib48* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 24880 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-nm48* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 24920 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-ar48* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 643768 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-4.8.5* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 643768 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/gcc48* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 24880 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/gcc-ranlib48* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 24880 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/gcc-nm48* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 24920 Nov 30 21:34 /usr/local/bin/gcc-ar48* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20 Nov 30 21:35 /usr/local/bin/gcc@ -> /usr/local/bin/gcc48 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 25704 Nov 30 21:55 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-ranlib* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 25704 Nov 30 21:55 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-nm* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 25736 Nov 30 21:55 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-ar* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 742608 Nov 30 21:55 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-5.2.0* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 742608 Nov 30 21:55 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 895144 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc5* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25912 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-ranlib5* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25912 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-nm5* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25944 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-ar5* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 895144 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-5.2.1* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 895144 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/gcc5* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25912 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/gcc-ranlib5* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25912 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/gcc-nm5* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25944 Dec 9 02:05 /usr/local/bin/gcc-ar5* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 846360 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc49* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25464 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-ranlib49* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25464 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-nm49* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25464 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-ar49* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 846360 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-4.9.4* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 846360 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/gcc49* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25464 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/gcc-ranlib49* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25464 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/gcc-nm49* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 25464 Dec 9 05:58 /usr/local/bin/gcc-ar49* [wam@devbox, utils, 11:01:02am] 4459 % diff /usr/local/bin/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.3-gcc-5.2.1 /usr/local/bin/gcc5 [wam@devbox, utils, 11:01:18am] 4460 % uname -a FreeBSD devbox 9.3-RELEASE-p30 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p30 #0: Mon Nov 2 10:11:50 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [wam@devbox, utils, 11:02:04am] 4461 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 18:28:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71029D782E for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from relay-b02.edpnet.be (relay-b02.edpnet.be [212.71.1.222]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87E5B1639 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1449772101-0a7b8d539783a6f0001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan (77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [77.109.103.53]) by relay-b02.edpnet.be with ESMTP id aLSkNeoEVxPGaTAU (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:28:23 +0100 (CET) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: jcigar@ulb.ac.be X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[77.109.103.53] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 77.109.103.53 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:28:21 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CARP demotion counter Message-ID: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: CARP demotion counter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Df9iGvjWRAzg/a8v" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Barracuda-Connect: 77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[77.109.103.53] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1449772102 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.222:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 694 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-Malware-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.25143 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:28:34 -0000 --Df9iGvjWRAzg/a8v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm busy to setup a redundant router/firewall with two Soekris 6501, PF, CARP and PFSync. I wondered if it was normal that the CARP demotion counter (net.inet.carp.demotion) is greater than 0 at boot? I'm asking this because it seems that the MASTER never returns from a BACKUP state, and it seems that's because the demotion counter is greater than 0 on both boxes (480) .. Any idea .. ? Thanks, Julien --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --Df9iGvjWRAzg/a8v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJWacRCAAoJEAi2KiTKQR5pulkP/1JIB0qjkTNmQQTovLiUznFA eRpNbMOricQ6+BVJUAqlAskyW4Sp/mJdmwnla+xEehXypbyaMTULtSMLtZPx3sh5 BfFVZEY7UfinGg3RCsClbvHBKJPLQ9CMW32RBXuKn/3zP1FSbFw8VT9V5glL0bAq 0x2TDkfUpmhIBtl4eiMCQ3tOLIGrokhiRNY8BrA8dBnqoYluCl5vl0hF2LUUsLfl rU85p7ChfeorqTmqmyrbsjWfYVQx81VSsNAe7ct4ZaUtYVtLTZnIhZ1iuOrirfWB bWt+phyrgoiInp1QtOLyVICzwa4huVVjzPzP1CflMPV8Zmrjd0OYkgY3uH+lrqsm eO1S08w5SmWMcdCV9Q74VXyXP4uhXbP6miE+sSkRiSibn7jk8qDyUE+OEhBC/7ld BWUo829BI05UYgt/coFssTHzaIsqlPtTmuM5YMnaK3h8amsEi3gTI0eHUT2ZEqJm B5HutlmkjBwvyrVNLw+bHjUmE3eQvmRuqG3yM/g+OrgS/bkCMbpCbZyudSNZ1y8K kX//nvRm20ehLQBgyG2ZBXNmKQWm52vW68i94Tp38rGnhLJuPAqgfy24NOvZ2Oy7 GEG9kT4rraT+fC8nhJm80eQfglV4xXdycKv1n8zXHCKHgKd3UJRohbEj8pUL+CLu cwytTiKO2j0SV73AkxIn =54Ad -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Df9iGvjWRAzg/a8v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 19:07:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F469D5C3F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mail.blih.net (mail.blih.net [212.83.177.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.blih.net", Issuer "mail.blih.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 041141363 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mail.blih.net (mail.blih.net [212.83.177.182]) by mail.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 182488aa for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:00:48 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=bidouilliste.com; h= mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:references:message-id; s=mail; bh=7mKU6f4TE mJW+CtP4qdW453oekQ=; b=s5T+tbdg9w1VEw1gcsxinNtY2NfnsW4tRFWVR0Z6t AV7W9TcQE3VwrJv9adU1zbHpf4g+74mJnC0+HinSV8Aeye+VWVT9bxwoDeOebbb+ j/t6aheyZg0qbsURow9LWr2gXQwYyNiKHmdzGhjv2qBW3p4Ig6xjxhhxCw5HEQJi LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=bidouilliste.com; h= mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:references:message-id; q=dns; s=mail; b=nnw 1VE2gMTL7STegcLTQ2fCxiLamR9rwLaxLseoGw4y1a7b/s5ce3QaK4bLMyDxL0Nx AHYDIpzdIjDTUUzVPs1evFiDfIMSlH8YQJwBBb4qBRybNItqmdLh+6yQlSbrXsXB SXeOD6+W5149f7ilz+01HBvOwfOohvfvzUzEvGvI= Received: from webmail.megadrive.org (www1.blih.net [212.83.177.180]) by mail.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b4cfa58a for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:00:48 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:00:48 +0100 From: Emmanuel Vadot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP demotion counter Organization: Bidouilliste In-Reply-To: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> References: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> Message-ID: X-Sender: manu@bidouilliste.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:07:32 -0000 On 2015-12-10 19:28, Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, > > I'm busy to setup a redundant router/firewall with two Soekris 6501, > PF, > CARP and PFSync. > > I wondered if it was normal that the CARP demotion counter > (net.inet.carp.demotion) is greater than 0 at boot? > > I'm asking this because it seems that the MASTER never returns from a > BACKUP state, and it seems that's because the demotion counter is > greater than 0 on both boxes (480) .. > > Any idea .. ? > > Thanks, > Julien You need net.inet.carp.preempt=1 for MASTER returning to MASTER after a BACKUP state. Otherwise as long as another machine have the carp ip, it will stay to BACKUP. -- Emmanuel Vadot From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 19:28:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8409D6C8C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9B7A1CF5 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.109] (cm-84.210.87.28.getinternet.no [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D90A0B1F; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: CARP demotion counter From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:27:56 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> To: Emmanuel Vadot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:28:09 -0000 > On 10 Dec 2015, at 20:00, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: >=20 > You need net.inet.carp.preempt=3D1 for MASTER returning to MASTER after a B= ACKUP state. If all things are otherwise equal, I've come to favor having redundant equip= ment not be designated master/slave, but rather "router 1" and "router 2" et= c, where possible.=20 It reduced "oh, the other is just backup"-impulses, promotes caring equally f= or either box, and reduces the idea of failover and fallback being separate t= hings.=20 Also removes "we need to fail back to the master" as a thing to do after a f= ailover, while the equality makes it easier to do changes as a matter of rou= tine.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 19:34:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF32C9D71A2 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6760B1079 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so39124250wme.1 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=q1N4IWpph0Ut9MAlZakB0PM0XuEPzKpCb/ORfn00n+0=; b=BDci41zzuYKXjWyl2JiisXUsEH0hu/3J3tJpjHelIl0IXBjb9UUTsgd8d1/YLrqH1y NcXoK2zLVV3iuJ347vA2uf54zKCcvRHvhw2f914sCAtKVTFNb3YOJhVJn0E/IpbazLzJ /R7J/RtbqPBRZXssQbKwnjm5Fbg2D6+iwXku+YTb3Q+RsK1QuUFPVRoqdBQqIQOo09/H Qf+m/ICRCzXijvDJemG2UrgEb1hcPH8xJKMAWgC09EAPWeDflu/bnSML2jCGc7NwfaWo 1zThDqUyzYFuW6ENKrLqpHo/YtQYBccXUykrfjkZb1DjkvBbOxbZl+JTXGvKz3JyO9lJ CR4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.148.133 with SMTP id w127mr853383wmd.92.1449776038772; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.86.87 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151210150224.18d842126bf67bb0b07dcdf6@sohara.org> References: <20151203073923.17dae0c41a2b5e29a5b3a3dd@sohara.org> <20151210144007.GA23555@fanty-a.tf.uni-kiel.de> <20151210150224.18d842126bf67bb0b07dcdf6@sohara.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:33:58 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best practice for locking down private jail? From: Aleksandr Miroslav To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:34:00 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > I think the cron job isn't needed. Create a directory outside the jails > > and mount it as nullfs and 'rw' into the upload jail and 'ro' into the > > web server jail. We do this on a zfs basis. > > That works of course, but loses the opportunity to verify the files > before putting them online. Exactly. The situation I'm trying to avoid is where someone compromises the key and credentials of the uploader and is able to accesses the "upload" jail. If I sanitize the files before copying them to the "web" jail, just about the only thing they will be able to do is put up audio files of the form lecture-001.mp3, lecture-002.mp3, and so one. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 19:40:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EF19D762F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from relay-b02.edpnet.be (relay-b02.edpnet.be [212.71.1.222]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4364A14A4 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1449776438-0a7b8d53978497c0001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan (77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [77.109.103.53]) by relay-b02.edpnet.be with ESMTP id 2Gbp9Ds4ZPfamkrl (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:40:40 +0100 (CET) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: jcigar@ulb.ac.be X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[77.109.103.53] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 77.109.103.53 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:40:38 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Emmanuel Vadot Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP demotion counter Message-ID: <20151210194038.GN13477@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: CARP demotion counter References: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qngN6uuxP6gxHZuU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Barracuda-Connect: 77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[77.109.103.53] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1449776438 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.222:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 2083 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-Malware-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.25144 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:40:43 -0000 --qngN6uuxP6gxHZuU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 08:00:48PM +0100, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On 2015-12-10 19:28, Julien Cigar wrote: > > Hello, > >=20 > > I'm busy to setup a redundant router/firewall with two Soekris 6501,=20 > > PF, > > CARP and PFSync. > >=20 > > I wondered if it was normal that the CARP demotion counter > > (net.inet.carp.demotion) is greater than 0 at boot? > >=20 > > I'm asking this because it seems that the MASTER never returns from a > > BACKUP state, and it seems that's because the demotion counter is > > greater than 0 on both boxes (480) .. > >=20 > > Any idea .. ? > >=20 > > Thanks, > > Julien >=20 > You need net.inet.carp.preempt=3D1 for MASTER returning to MASTER after= a=20 > BACKUP state. > Otherwise as long as another machine have the carp ip, it will stay to= =20 > BACKUP. Both machines have net.inet.carp.preempt=3D1 To sum up, with "A" the original MASTER, "B" the BACKUP: - At first boot net.inet.carp.demotion is > 0 on A and B (which is not expected) - A is in MASTER state and B is in BACKUP state (which is expected) - If I unplug the cable from A, the state changes from BACKUP -> MASTER on B (which is expected) - When I re-plug the cable in A, the state remains the same (A is in BACKUP and B is in MASTER, which is *not* expexted) - As soon as set net.inet.carp.demotion to "0" the states change as expected (A in MASTER and B in BACKUP) Is it normal and expected that the demotion counter is > 0 at first=20 boot? Could this be related to the order of the interfaces? Thanks! Julien >=20 > --=20 > Emmanuel Vadot > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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Built gcc4.6 out of the ports/lang area, but see the sam= e issue using /usr/bin/cc (clang 3.4.1). in /usr/include/rpc/clnt.h the following snippet: /* * If a creation fails, the following allows the user to figure out why. */ struct rpc_createerr { enum clnt_stat cf_stat; struct rpc_err cf_error; /* userful when cf_stat =3D=3D RPC_PMAPFA= ILURE */ }; __BEGIN_DECLS extern struct rpc_createerr *__rpc_createeer(void); __END_DECLS #define rpc_createerr (*(__rpc_createeerr())) Note that the #define becomes active once the file is included, and in my s= ource code I have multiple struct rpc_createerr *ce; declarations. Both cc and gcc cite this as an error, though for different = reasons. gcc complains that a '(' is found where a '{' is expected. The cc error message is 'error: declaration of anyonymous struct must be a = definition'. My other ports - Linux, AIX, Solaris, Mac OSX, do not have the #define in /= usr/include/rpc/clnt.h. The HP-UX does, but it is encapsulated within a #ifdef _REENTRANT / #endif = block. Is this an actual error, or is there something on FreeBSD that I need to do= that is different than the other platforms? Thanks in advance, jerry Jerry Heyman | Principal Software Engineer | Software is the difference EMC Data Domain | between hardware and reality Jerrold.Heyman@emc.com / 919.597.7812 | From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 19:55:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5001A9D6343 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 155BA1D70; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.109] (cm-84.210.87.28.getinternet.no [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 87FFAB25; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: best practice for locking down private jail? From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) In-Reply-To: <565FFBDF.40907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:55:52 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20151203083926.72ad74db.freebsd@edvax.de> <565FFBDF.40907@FreeBSD.org> To: Matthew Seaman X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:55:58 -0000 > On 03 Dec 2015, at 09:22, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > Keys *and* a password doesn't offer any additional security over just > keys alone. Actually, that's not true.=20 It's a fairly common thought, since both are key+password, but there's a ver= y real difference; online vs. offline.=20 If you have an encrypted ssh private key, you can try to brute-force the pas= sword as much as you'd like, in the comfort of your own home.=20 The password on the server though, would have to be tried against the server= , leaving logs, possibly getting your IP firewalled, and alerting admin.=20 This is also where it gets interesting; if you check key before password, so= meone uses the key but fails at the password a mere 3 times, you could revok= e the key, and lock up the user.=20 That's what I'd call a pretty significant boost in security.=20 (Granted, the last part of that would perhaps require some scripting) And your point isn't completely without merit. For a lot of cases it doesn't= matter; if the key is compromised because someone got access to the system w= hile in use (as opposed to say, theft, DHS etc), there's a good chance the a= ttacker could keylog the passphrase, at which point most of this would be mo= ot.=20 To sum up; for some attackers/scenarios, it can boost security significantly= , for others it hardly matters. For most, it's probably better to just go wi= th keys, or take another step up and look at 2FA, or moving SSH keys to hard= ware (smartcard, yubikey...) I'm not suggesting everyone run out and set passwords, not adopt anything I m= ention here, my point is just that there's a difference between encrypted ke= y and key+password, and the difference can be leveraged for gain where appro= priate.=20 Oh, and final note; there's some possible fun to be had here if anyone is in= a scripting mood, such as setting up a system to revoke SSH-keys to ALL mac= hines, if key works but password fails on ANY, if key is successfully used f= rom a non-whitelisted IP, and so on. Later SSHs have some CA-infrastructure,= ink. ability to distribute revocation-lists. That opens up to being able to= keep revocation ready at hand, and distributing only after its needed.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 20:39:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D469D6743 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from relay-b01.edpnet.be (relay-b01.edpnet.be [212.71.1.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FB28151A for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1449778884-0a7ff530d4855750001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan (77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [77.109.103.53]) by relay-b01.edpnet.be with ESMTP id D5bPvrYkSlu0j8zL (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:21:25 +0100 (CET) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: jcigar@ulb.ac.be X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[77.109.103.53] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 77.109.103.53 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:21:24 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Terje Elde Cc: Emmanuel Vadot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP demotion counter Message-ID: <20151210202124.GO13477@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: CARP demotion counter References: <20151210182821.GM13477@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sAMF9MHkXj43A5i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Barracuda-Connect: 77.109.103.53.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[77.109.103.53] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1449778884 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.221:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 1645 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-Malware-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.25145 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:39:12 -0000 --sAMF9MHkXj43A5i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 08:27:56PM +0100, Terje Elde wrote: >=20 > > On 10 Dec 2015, at 20:00, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > >=20 > > You need net.inet.carp.preempt=3D1 for MASTER returning to MASTER after= a BACKUP state. >=20 > If all things are otherwise equal, I've come to favor having redundant eq= uipment not be designated master/slave, but rather "router 1" and "router 2= " etc, where possible.=20 >=20 > It reduced "oh, the other is just backup"-impulses, promotes caring equal= ly for either box, and reduces the idea of failover and fallback being sepa= rate things.=20 >=20 > Also removes "we need to fail back to the master" as a thing to do after = a failover, while the equality makes it easier to do changes as a matter of= routine.=20 You're right, fundamentally I don't have any problem which box is the MASTER or the BACKUP as long as the CARP failover is done properly (which is the case).=20 It's just that I would like to understand why the demotion counter is=20 greater than 0 at boot and why the MASTER doesn't return when the cable is re-plugged (which is the expected behavior I think) :) >=20 > Terje >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --sAMF9MHkXj43A5i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJWad69AAoJEAi2KiTKQR5p/8gQAKVGfinxIz+X8wpJ1Cgoxa4X okY1ZnpydRP1RYBXlC8toyKyDg5nQtjvMISl2UaB+RPaxCJsB/6F+S/tf19IBuwF z7Q/NcRDygW0KoYqrmhNWaciPNfKa5k+E4TD9sWrAFdBwGn6hftJo9JuWslSjNox 8+rslGV2tbZZJbgDD+f2hsAK1m29rf4bpHOFv7DEUJYFzR58hl/Ce3UwDemn3kH4 zHqy0NpRksXUcOnQJffXAo3zSiD1CRcSbwkRVkk8Wqtd2z0MzlgJxb9ERdEvwdBi bFzcePOiinKxa4FMMU3Jeu0IHv66PDBb3fXaV1WcCrzGKuSAT6+0JxHgX5ghKWLL ShOc3r1zxm3678H7zNKT2n+kqC5+V6TQLM3ziyzzscfxzmgWiBo4uJ3E62SpE9nM fVSLLBS7k6LGjYoNLIVORbuCSg8HUNdBoOfIXidqx9DiV2A+H/nZQ8kfNx+lh7Uf TD1KFXSbmvQf9xPM4aZuERIsoBgLMEQtQRZC9sby2jI9pE8UcFnHl2jvg1fDOUXG OV5iHxAxwbCtRSX+lapsNXXBtv0ioGGWJrYi08XwinqMq4WFNS+kGbS7lR1vNg7A a3Ro9fS4MTtO0u4Ajrz8xxUJw1Flslq5l9SONybDaQnDHBsnf1XCKIiqV/DNV/QD 1A1BUmNArq2R5+moaEf4 =wwqp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sAMF9MHkXj43A5i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 21:22:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784889D6C9A for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (n4rky-1-pt.tunnel.tserv29.fmt1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:66:119::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63A34102C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id D982D59792CE; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:22:02 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:22:02 -0800 Message-ID: <20151210132202.Horde.L-UfLdFlWeCANimy0-JWSdg@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Want to reinstall, preserving existing configuration User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_B9DOtWrJ3QhTUbwDFtOm7RJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:22:10 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_B9DOtWrJ3QhTUbwDFtOm7RJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, This is about my old notebook. It has 3GB of memory, which is pretty=20=20 marginal=20for ZFS. Adding more memory is not an option (I wish it were,=20= =20 but=20ASUS solders the memory onto the board with these systems). At the time, the only way I could find to install FreeBSD on it was=20=20 with=20PC-BSD, which I think insists on using ZFS. I've since cleaned=20=20 off=20most of the PC-BSD cruft and, really, there's nothing terribly=20=20 wrong=20with the system. In fact, it's the success story that makes=20=20 FreeBSD=20my preferred operating system. But there are a couple problems which are inclining me to reinstall.=20=20 First,=20the system is slow and I think ZFS isn't helping me. Second, I=20= =20 can't=20for the life of me figure out how to get through a portion of=20=20 the=20make world step where the newly rebuilt base system is supposed to=20= =20 be=20installed in single-user mode--I've been having to boot all the way=20= =20 and=20do that installation on a fully live system (yes, that's worked).=20= =20 ZFS=20isn't helping me here either (I don't have this problem on UFS=20=20 systems). Because=20there's nothing else terribly wrong, I'd basically like to=20=20 preserve=20the existing configuration. That includes ports and the build=20= =20 options.=20Has anyone come up with a neat procedure for doing this? Thanks! --=20 David=20Benfell --=_B9DOtWrJ3QhTUbwDFtOm7RJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJWaez6AAoJEOoml8Ul4D7WOagP/i4+rBilQ/V+gJnpfjKL+28d 9tva6dXvgt8NA688QooTopQhDGgYfBmFuLb87E/xMzyMeM1YKGWEL6YzDJsvQ6WO 6FGzladrrWoif1Lk5nfnxPVlWz2qFi4QV3A1Vw2WtN5t8GLRp7qBYCa52QMeAv7y wT86dOVD6bFZJPAjvEDXbfXWI1GDiD7ZLZGokybQQPl70x1HeHieoqDwuYisdR1U 5hli89bcRQMNRV9xx3RX1oN7+R3iCerdtPicQUJQUgttdNMjR4Y2O0H7Vo6PFKDQ n5eNVWn1fePnd/dbT031IXFxKQX/kKZy5mvgQUv+fB8pDiJIB2s19leqWtPhkm7u VHNkZcU7fckF0n83IZpRieBzABDHKGQ0uwymZXQhp6NAtfeCGanPQlSTjjdxgo+9 SQHvzOCEZZdG3vya8cGkDF1krNkFVr39NZ5z0sLhgYp0x57c82suDKdCFob0RCoP PMcKLuHzmUcWrO7KD896CwXbI95PkRDIQyUZQppxt3oqNUlewHiYnzy2h6zc56Xs m3bRrGg6PDHKAi9eKHQVEWI2Tv5d1fQ9E/67dl5pifZj8teNo3fDGnwpc0ZUlZn5 0PfcK028r7h/5DJARtv4qrnNkUwNb4EMQM9bH0IVQ/wZr+iZVDCVuVrcwAAhCEr0 HfMw5ysYLSvjcYeUhaUA =+VhF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_B9DOtWrJ3QhTUbwDFtOm7RJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 22:07:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3279D70F7 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-in7.apple.com (mail-out7.apple.com [17.151.62.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB7EC1FBF for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay2.apple.com (relay2.apple.com [17.128.113.67]) by mail-in7.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id DD.C3.27014.9B7F9665; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 14:07:53 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11973e16-f793c6d000006986-92-5669f7b9be5a Received: from [17.149.226.23] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.226.23]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay2.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id BB.59.03545.8B7F9665; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 14:07:52 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: Want to reinstall, preserving existing configuration From: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: <20151210132202.Horde.L-UfLdFlWeCANimy0-JWSdg@mail.parts-unknown.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 14:07:52 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD - Message-Id: <8D80BCFB-74EF-447F-8850-88544668BDCA@mac.com> References: <20151210132202.Horde.L-UfLdFlWeCANimy0-JWSdg@mail.parts-unknown.org> To: David Benfell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FDorLvze2aYwZ+bjBats/6yWLz8uonF gcljxqf5LB7Xu6YwBTBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGXc74sraBOqeH5pClsD4z3+LkZODgkBE4lF x1YzQthiEhfurWfrYuTiEBLYyyix/+BBVpiildeaWCASU5kkzq26zgySYBZIkLi97zBYEa+A nsSJVbvBbGEBR4lXc/uYuhg5ONgE1CQmTOQBMTkFgiRu/vMGqWARUJWYd+MwI8QUXYmmG28Z IaZYSby68oEVpFxIIFDi0FkLkLAIUMmWVYfYIa6Rldi3YQHYmRICHWwSN1cdZp3AKDgLyUGz kBwEEdeWWLbwNfMsoLHMAjoSkxcyogpD2B/PH2FawMi2ilEoNzEzRzczz1wvsaAgJ1UvOT93 EyMo1Kfbie1gfLjK6hCjAAejEg/vC+nMMCHWxLLiytxDjNIcLErivLZPgUIC6YklqdmpqQWp RfFFpTmpxYcYmTg4pRoY5949n/Ll4vu8D68/m/6Ufv7G9W7l/Bm/jmyVbZK6pxRb8nJhYuOE iV5s14SFH/I/5NY2ZLv0lP3DQdHQe3dPt/C+4fzJarq44ftc86TSZ7+MZpvzTXU+y3VuwbLf 8TsSdgeKJT0LjNPjbN32TrPl99xv+64a9os6Xtw8ybz6UIP2vKbLxmGZz5RYijMSDbWYi4oT Ad3pHxZWAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPWRuO6O75lhBjs2Wlu0zvrLYvHy6yYW ByaPGZ/ms3hc75rCFMAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJVxvy+uoE2o4vmlKWwNjPf4uxg5OSQETCRW XmtigbDFJC7cW8/WxcjFISQwlUni3KrrzCAJZoEEidv7DrOC2LwCehInVu0Gs4UFHCVeze1j 6mLk4GATUJOYMJEHxOQUCJK4+c8bpIJFQFVi3o3DjBBTdCWabrxlhJhiJfHqygdWkHIhgUCJ Q2ctQMIiQCVbVh1ih7hGVmLfhgVsExj5ZiG5YRaSGyDi2hLLFr5mngU0iVlAR2LyQkZUYQj7 4/kjTAsY2VYxChSl5iRWGuklFhTkpOol5+duYgSFZkOh8w7GY8usDjEKcDAq8fC+kM4ME2JN LCuuzD3EKMHBrCTCK/8eKMSbklhZlVqUH19UmpNafIhRmoNFSZz3dFx6mJBAemJJanZqakFq EUyWiYNTqoHR6Aa/h8vuR2/TFmd+iS/sjHN+23rmg+LjaUVbtpvX8U26u0Bvb13L/DeTLEy/ sAnnJ18NXT1b7Q//hrMxbfPrCwubd+ws/HjocfK3tbq+f80W2l3pZ2w/cO2i0U77G3qfHj+q eBkp7Hp2Yeyb57a1btfCHNfs5qm5dSVvmmPzmwNz/WRXbFReqcRSnJFoqMVcVJwIAPAyHRxJ AgAA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:07:55 -0000 On Dec 10, 2015, at 1:22 PM, David Benfell = wrote: [ ... ] > Because there's nothing else terribly wrong, I'd basically like to = preserve the existing configuration. That includes ports and the build = options. Has anyone come up with a neat procedure for doing this? Certainly: take a backup. (If you knew your backups were working, you wouldn't worry about this = sort of problem again.) Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 00:17:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF259D54E9 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta005.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B9DD13AA for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44CB18D0F5 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:10:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3842218CF8F for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:10:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.254.7] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:10:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: "The number of dudes who touched my leg at 'professional' drinks" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Steve Burton Message-ID: <566A1464.5000705@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:10:12 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-MDF-HostID: 18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:17:23 -0000 On 10/12/2015 15:02, 0s&1s Reads wrote: > 0s&1s' new titles and conversation > > View this email in your browser (http://us3.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=3fdaf407cd&e=815066ea78) > > http://0s-1s.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=67d65c3a9b&e=815066ea78 > > > ** Now on The Art of Commerce: Fershleiser talks industry sexism, her braintrust, self-fulfilling reading cycles & more > ------------------------------------------------------------ > http://0s-1s.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=68926b1433&e=815066ea78 > > AL: It seems (to me at least), that there are two narratives about women writers and they are (somewhat) contradictory. 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Andy, watching him sleep, has an intriguing idea for a piece of art that he thinks will allow John to get paid for what he does best. > > Using the story of Andy Warhol and John Giorno and their film Sleep as a starting point, The Sleepworker reads like a Warhol film on fast-forward. > > As always—spread the good words (below). > > http://0s-1s.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=0a801c5a51&e=815066ea78 Share (http://0s-1s.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=0450f6983a&e=815066ea78) > http://0s-1s.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=f958f5246e&e=815066ea78 http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbJhE6j Tweet (http://0s-1s.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=2fc2dba263&e=815066ea78 http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbJhE6j) > http://us3.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=3fdaf407cd&e=815066ea78 Forward (http://us3.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=3fdaf407cd&e=815066ea78) > > ============================================================ > ** unsubscribe from this list (http://0s-1s.us3.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=816e895f40&e=815066ea78&c=3fdaf407cd) > ** update subscription preferences (http://0s-1s.us3.list-manage.com/profile?u=b13909becbf6e1906015962fa&id=816e895f40&e=815066ea78) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" well... that certainly violated my personal POLA. Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 01:04:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F599D7E7E for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 01:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (n4rky-1-pt.tunnel.tserv29.fmt1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:66:119::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3D141EF2 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 01:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id AD01059792CE; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:04:35 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:04:35 -0800 Message-ID: <20151210170435.Horde.Nx90DIB75H8kiNGSzfgBXol@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: Charles Swiger Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: Want to reinstall, preserving existing configuration References: <20151210132202.Horde.L-UfLdFlWeCANimy0-JWSdg@mail.parts-unknown.org> <8D80BCFB-74EF-447F-8850-88544668BDCA@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <8D80BCFB-74EF-447F-8850-88544668BDCA@mac.com> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_oTHZWyZ4FCU5P_0udx69a6j"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 01:04:36 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_oTHZWyZ4FCU5P_0udx69a6j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Charles Swiger : > On Dec 10, 2015, at 1:22 PM, David Benfell wr= ote: > [ ... ] >> Because there's nothing else terribly wrong, I'd basically like to=20=20 >>=20preserve the existing configuration. That includes ports and the=20=20 >>=20build options. Has anyone come up with a neat procedure for doing=20= =20 >>=20this? > > Certainly: take a backup. To me, this leaves some very important questions unanswered. First, won't there be some differences in the configuration for UFS=20=20 versus=20ZFS? Second, who has a sane backup method for a 500 GB disk that will put=20=20 all=20the boot stuff in all the right places on a restore? Particularly=20= =20 when=20the bootloader is a different bootloader for UEFI on UFS than=20=20 Grub=20for ZFS? --=20 David=20Benfell --=_oTHZWyZ4FCU5P_0udx69a6j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJWaiEjAAoJEOoml8Ul4D7Wkg0P/2K0/vkqAv2MoBunjaNOf9pS WVbZTMqw+0NfxkG646PscoyvgDDYEWkUXer6TPBscbpA+F6E2uSWuyliUmatvOpr u6MHgO1TF8MppzoAE2Mm0Bl46y6JO14fZlCT3N7kWyqTGDIZN8hPUsx2MQVpRbvT FfWgV7g23pRQp3+f72NP7NxIVJJj4UYmH0qfRVCgRSWGfiqx/dFyHFXMtgL980Cf NFvkGI89yIqnRB2JlLji/NBvyAapzMC3vHgx24h6+mrHjymYXvX7IzilYJgxx3gh bBESgjbi1j7sr68zWxrKCqwUQXtQYWMf0gaRzbEcPjbqsebqdpISlzM75iCaau+V q4qFYVc95z6en63wsaskPrLFb5iNAv3p1eDJZQQIhkas8Sam8H0RdqTnuEIdvU2K yNuePq7WlDRmGBz4lAjrV9okPeDhc4rT3R7gNZHF1GKPNve2AXasqh/YpZwBzLJT 7xjdfkK3wnlqduKP0shGZFg+WSQJjYpB6RA6PxHzy7naXlrJpr3knLNsKOBx8Sc7 222cSQdW0WvHqYtl5G+U2l2Uj/5rtIHpiBj9MSAlDOMGyj9BeFRROi9wSAUvMxg+ F+CsehQAdtZXeqbGMP8NwGI76g5oC2Xp7QvyHeKozXsRzhEt7VwsyIgu2EN0lTn+ STwhO7/WMthLYdtUjlp3 =+jDQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_oTHZWyZ4FCU5P_0udx69a6j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 02:15:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF659D7736 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 02:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Received: from riddler.lateapex.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:6969::217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "riddler.lateapex.net", Issuer "riddler.lateapex.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AB37174A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 02:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Received: from deadshot.private.lateapex.net (deadshot.private.lateapex.net [192.168.10.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by riddler.lateapex.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id tBB2FjqM084512 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:15:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Subject: Re: "The number of dudes who touched my leg at 'professional' drinks" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <566A1464.5000705@sliderule.demon.co.uk> From: Jason Van Patten Message-ID: <566A31D0.10808@lateapex.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:15:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566A1464.5000705@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=MTA-Peer; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; sender-ip=192.168.10.4; sender-helo=deadshot.private.lateapex.net; X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=SessionId; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; sessionid='015ccc96a3694b31cb00b8d1a22b1a96'; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 02:15:49 -0000 On 12/10/15 7:10 PM, Steve Burton wrote: > well... that certainly violated my personal POLA. How about not quoting the entire thing and/or not replying to the obvious spam? -- Jason Van Patten From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 05:06:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F7E9D778F for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53D04112A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ed03a39e; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id b76ccfb8 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:05:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449810353.30424.42.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Want to reinstall, preserving existing configuration From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: David Benfell , Charles Swiger Cc: FreeBSD - Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:05:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20151210170435.Horde.Nx90DIB75H8kiNGSzfgBXol@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20151210132202.Horde.L-UfLdFlWeCANimy0-JWSdg@mail.parts-unknown.org> <8D80BCFB-74EF-447F-8850-88544668BDCA@mac.com> <20151210170435.Horde.Nx90DIB75H8kiNGSzfgBXol@mail.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:06:03 -0000 On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 17:04 -0800, David Benfell wrote: > Quoting Charles Swiger : > > > On Dec 10, 2015, at 1:22 PM, David Benfell > rg> wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > Because there's nothing else terribly wrong, I'd basically like > > > to   > > > preserve the existing configuration. That includes ports and > > > the   > > > build options. Has anyone come up with a neat procedure for > > > doing   > > > this? > > > > Certainly: take a backup. > > To me, this leaves some very important questions unanswered. > > First, won't there be some differences in the configuration for UFS   > versus ZFS? > > Second, who has a sane backup method for a 500 GB disk that will > put   > all the boot stuff in all the right places on a restore? > Particularly   > when the bootloader is a different bootloader for UEFI on UFS than   > Grub for ZFS? I think he was refering to a non-block form of backup like rsync or tarsnap. Because of FreeBSD's base/ports separation you can pretty much snag /var, /etc, /usr/local, and /usr/home and drop them on a fresh base and it should work fine. You would probably want to tweak rc.conf to remove zfs_enable and make sure you transfer and changes you may need in login.conf and loader.conf, but that is pretty much it. (List: did I miss a directory here? It is late at night for me) Since you mentioned port options you might want to grab /usr/ports too. I am not so sure of this, List: please chime in here. If you are looking for a comprehensive guide there are probably some blog posts about using tarsnap or aws for backups, most people using them are paying for space and transfer so they try to keep things tight and rarely backup base. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 05:21:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4156A9D62DD for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D42AF1A81 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:21:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 98298e11; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 31b55dc9 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:21:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449811260.30424.50.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: and rpc_createerr From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: "Heyman, Jerrold" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:21:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9CDA60925D09954CA4BAD0284E2DFC43024EDE@MX204CL01.corp.emc.com> References: <9CDA60925D09954CA4BAD0284E2DFC43024EDE@MX204CL01.corp.emc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:21:20 -0000 On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 19:49 +0000, Heyman, Jerrold wrote: > I've just installed FreeBSD 10.2 in order to determine the > portability of my companies code.  Built gcc4.6 out of the ports/lang > area, but see the same issue using /usr/bin/cc (clang 3.4.1). > > in /usr/include/rpc/clnt.h the following snippet: > > /* >  * If a creation fails, the following allows the user to figure out > why. >  */ > struct rpc_createerr { >         enum clnt_stat cf_stat; >         struct rpc_err cf_error;  /* userful when cf_stat == > RPC_PMAPFAILURE */ > }; > > __BEGIN_DECLS > extern struct rpc_createerr    *__rpc_createeer(void); > __END_DECLS > #define rpc_createerr          (*(__rpc_createeerr())) > > Note that the #define becomes active once the file is included, and > in my source code I have multiple > >    struct rpc_createerr *ce; > > declarations.  Both cc and gcc cite this as an error, though for > different reasons. > > gcc complains that a '(' is found where a '{' is expected. > The cc error message is 'error: declaration of anyonymous struct must > be a definition'. > > My other ports - Linux, AIX, Solaris, Mac OSX, do not have the > #define in /usr/include/rpc/clnt.h. > The HP-UX does, but it is encapsulated within a #ifdef _REENTRANT / > #endif block. > > Is this an actual error, or is there something on FreeBSD that I need > to do that is different than the other platforms? > > Thanks in advance, > > jerry > > Jerry Heyman                           | > Principal Software Engineer            |    Software is the > difference > EMC Data Domain                        |    between hardware and > reality > Jerrold.Heyman@emc.com / 919.597.7812  | The freebsd-questions hasn't been very good at answering these kind of questions of late, you might have better luck on a more technical list like freebsd-hackers. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 05:32:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7246C9D715F for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 244BA1867 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 1027d545; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 2c80914d TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:32:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449811964.30424.61.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: best practice for locking down private jail? From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Aleksandr Miroslav , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:32:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <20151203073923.17dae0c41a2b5e29a5b3a3dd@sohara.org> <20151210144007.GA23555@fanty-a.tf.uni-kiel.de> <20151210150224.18d842126bf67bb0b07dcdf6@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:32:49 -0000 On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 11:33 -0800, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith > wrote: > > > I think the cron job isn't needed. Create a directory outside the > > > jails > > > and mount it as nullfs and 'rw' into the upload jail and 'ro' > > > into the > > > web server jail. We do this on a zfs basis. > > > > That works of course, but loses the opportunity to verify the files > > before putting them online. > > Exactly. The situation I'm trying to avoid is where someone > compromises the key > and credentials of the uploader and is able to accesses the "upload" > jail. If I sanitize > the files before copying them to the "web" jail, just about the only > thing they will be > able to do is put up audio files of the form lecture-001.mp3, > lecture-002.mp3, and so one. Although if you want to be really paranoid have the cron script spin up another jail to do the validations in and run an IDS against the jail afterwards to make sure there were no tar/libmagic/whatever exploits in the uploaded file. After all, if you really don't trust it don't run it on the jailhost either. I am sure we get get this really complicated if the whole list piles on. [Read this whole thing as me being a smart-aleck, what you have done already is better than most sysadmins would bother with, I just couldn't resist.] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 06:04:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230589D77A7 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 06:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8BA4195C; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 06:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id eddc62e6; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 01:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 2ac19b35 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 01:04:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449813845.30424.81.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: best practice for locking down private jail? From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Terje Elde , Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 01:04:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <20151203083926.72ad74db.freebsd@edvax.de> <565FFBDF.40907@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 06:04:10 -0000 On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 20:55 +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > > On 03 Dec 2015, at 09:22, Matthew Seaman > > wrote: > > > > Keys *and* a password doesn't offer any additional security over > > just > > keys alone. > > Actually, that's not true. > > It's a fairly common thought, since both are key+password, but > there's a very real difference; online vs. offline. > > If you have an encrypted ssh private key, you can try to brute-force > the password as much as you'd like, in the comfort of your own home. > > The password on the server though, would have to be tried against the > server, leaving logs, possibly getting your IP firewalled, and > alerting admin. > > This is also where it gets interesting; if you check key before > password, someone uses the key but fails at the password a mere 3 > times, you could revoke the key, and lock up the user. > > That's what I'd call a pretty significant boost in security. > > (Granted, the last part of that would perhaps require some scripting) > > And your point isn't completely without merit. For a lot of cases it > doesn't matter; if the key is compromised because someone got access > to the system while in use (as opposed to say, theft, DHS etc), > there's a good chance the attacker could keylog the passphrase, at > which point most of this would be moot. > > To sum up; for some attackers/scenarios, it can boost security > significantly, for others it hardly matters. For most, it's probably > better to just go with keys, or take another step up and look at 2FA, > or moving SSH keys to hardware (smartcard, yubikey...) > > I'm not suggesting everyone run out and set passwords, not adopt > anything I mention here, my point is just that there's a difference > between encrypted key and key+password, and the difference can be > leveraged for gain where appropriate. > > > Oh, and final note; there's some possible fun to be had here if > anyone is in a scripting mood, such as setting up a system to revoke > SSH-keys to ALL machines, if key works but password fails on ANY, if > key is successfully used from a non-whitelisted IP, and so on. Later > SSHs have some CA-infrastructure, ink. ability to distribute > revocation-lists. That opens up to being able to keep revocation > ready at hand, and distributing only after its needed. > > Terje +1 I mostly concur. I like the point about alterting alot. I don't think that the keys are so weak that offline cracking is really that worrysome though. The key encryption method (AES-128-CBC) is beyond the abilties of non-nationstates to attack, and even then it is still deemed very unlikely. Oh and if you are really concerned about password replays, there is opie. Or even key + password + opie + 2FA, or even key + 1 of the others. SSH is fancy! I think most of the talk about key + password has been from the perspective of if a sysadmin needs to do both. If you can trust yourself to protect your keys you probably don't need to add password. But for the less-security minded users both is better, if only because it is hard to enforce encrypted keys. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 07:27:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115D89D6CC5 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 07:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFBF519E3; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 07:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.109] (unknown [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DFDB6B6C; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 07:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: best practice for locking down private jail? From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) In-Reply-To: <1449813845.30424.81.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 08:27:45 +0100 Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20151203083926.72ad74db.freebsd@edvax.de> <565FFBDF.40907@FreeBSD.org> <1449813845.30424.81.camel@michaeleichorn.com> To: "Michael B. Eichorn" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 07:27:59 -0000 > On 11 Dec 2015, at 07:04, Michael B. Eichorn wrot= e: >=20 > I don't think that the keys are so weak that offline cracking is really > that worrysome though. The key encryption method (AES-128-CBC) is > beyond the abilties of non-nationstates to attack, and even then it is > still deemed very unlikely. True for the encryption algorithm, but people don't break algorithms, they b= reak keys, and that's a very different situation.=20 Say for example that your password is "f", the attacker tries to guess it st= arting from "a" and moving on from there. With offline checking, he'd have y= our password in no time. With online checking - and a limit of three attempt= s - he'd actually fail completely, despite the horribly bad password.=20 > Oh and if you are really concerned about password replays, there is > opie. Or even key + password + opie + 2FA, or even key + 1 of the > others. SSH is fancy! There's also a patch for OpenSSH to support FIDO U2F floating around.=20 > I think most of the talk about key + password has been from the > perspective of if a sysadmin needs to do both. If you can trust > yourself to protect your keys you probably don't need to add password. > But for the less-security minded users both is better, if only because > it is hard to enforce encrypted keys. Yeah, there's definitively a need for finding the right tradeoff, and what t= hat is depends a lot on the situation.=20 There's probably also little point in going entirely overboard; if your mach= ine is completely compromised, an attacker would gain access to your logged i= n sessions, no matter how well you authenticate the session setup.=20 While on the topic of ssh, there's an argument to be made for being careful w= ith users ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. If an attacker gains temporary access to a= system, it's often too easy to turn that into permanent access by slipping i= n a key of his own.=20 There's a lot of ways to protect against that, such as having sshd look for k= eys only in a place the users can't write, or running nightly checks and mai= ling users about changes.=20 (First has issue with users loosing access to revoke keys, second has a dela= y and only gives notification, not prevention).=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 08:13:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E179D5452 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 08:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce-md_30336875.566a8207.v1-74a260e8d264416b94eb2dfa32b4cd26@mandrillapp.com) Received: from mail133-8.atl131.mandrillapp.com (mail133-8.atl131.mandrillapp.com [198.2.133.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F116D12BA for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 08:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce-md_30336875.566a8207.v1-74a260e8d264416b94eb2dfa32b4cd26@mandrillapp.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=mandrill; d=ptmails.in; h=From:Subject:List-Unsubscribe:Reply-To:To:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; i=newsletters@ptmails.in; bh=DpJaPWyqJ2rCjL6jYor9M0UyMIc=; b=l5aix5P/CP9kLiTk8vN2y64bsHfnak8AqCENeyCV3OP0SXHyoMm0Ay8IVA6Ty7c/g9tCzLb8x4a4 u6dbHso3zXdxlj9V/JMeGMzN+SUW/vky6VEn6A2SJEXXV8mZ2XTNzurLwNI7QYIiNDGrwlo2/IkM dkt+Rq/rWYjJVGaqVv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=mandrill; d=ptmails.in; b=m8XHrytCc3DPHQ4vsw1eJYtLRhYkSsXTiaU4Zl45mOXo4DzMI26YKXyAYVqPXd4g69k3/oEy1aZD yZvBiISAfjf20x2NJCdN1QnBySrIYxDmZ+uDGAPdxyTQ/yP4pnuzkJz8U6N68XwoCFo6od9+Ubcs cpn/dnxd8VxZB7VySNA=; Received: from pmta02.mandrill.prod.atl01.rsglab.com (127.0.0.1) by mail133-8.atl131.mandrillapp.com id hda2p81sar81 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 07:57:59 +0000 (envelope-from ) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mandrillapp.com; i=@mandrillapp.com; q=dns/txt; s=mandrill; t=1449820679; h=From : Subject : List-Unsubscribe : Reply-To : To : Message-Id : Date : MIME-Version : Content-Type : From : Subject : Date : X-Mandrill-User : List-Unsubscribe; bh=Es0RBpaEpsdB5KPC4dzEIdZbKz8GVJxsKjWS8y06pRg=; b=I4wwAygVadgESa2a3DNALj9REnfOfvUXNwzlRApQyPgbG9zg7uEXXAqDgG+AaODJsG5ca9 DZvHfz2JO+a4b1z2o9hdX9k1oTXhKjmScYOCDVy05LaDhiEnFkPm3yiQxavpdmUuderXgqRw 0yoAGPaV0r2dbPgNL9tdoKF3NGUQs= From: PepperTap Subject: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=98=98=20Save=20more=20on=20groceries=20today!=20=E2=98=98?= Received: from [54.254.145.186] by mandrillapp.com id 74a260e8d264416b94eb2dfa32b4cd26; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 07:57:59 +0000 Reply-To: PepperTap To: X-Report-Abuse: Please forward a copy of this message, including all headers, to abuse@mandrill.com X-Report-Abuse: You can also report abuse here: http://mandrillapp.com/contact/abuse?id=30336875.74a260e8d264416b94eb2dfa32b4cd26 X-Mandrill-User: md_30336875 Message-Id: <30336875.20151211075759.566a8207160438.92679590@mail133-8.atl131.mandrillapp.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 07:57:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 08:13:08 -0000 Get fruits, vegetables & groceries delivered in 2 hours with just a few taps. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 08:40:38PM +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 08:00:48PM +0100, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > On 2015-12-10 19:28, Julien Cigar wrote: > > > Hello, > > >=20 > > > I'm busy to setup a redundant router/firewall with two Soekris 6501,= =20 > > > PF, > > > CARP and PFSync. > > >=20 > > > I wondered if it was normal that the CARP demotion counter > > > (net.inet.carp.demotion) is greater than 0 at boot? > > >=20 > > > I'm asking this because it seems that the MASTER never returns from a > > > BACKUP state, and it seems that's because the demotion counter is > > > greater than 0 on both boxes (480) .. > > >=20 > > > Any idea .. ? > > >=20 > > > Thanks, > > > Julien > >=20 > > You need net.inet.carp.preempt=3D1 for MASTER returning to MASTER aft= er a=20 > > BACKUP state. > > Otherwise as long as another machine have the carp ip, it will stay t= o=20 > > BACKUP. >=20 > Both machines have net.inet.carp.preempt=3D1 >=20 > To sum up, with "A" the original MASTER, "B" the BACKUP: > - At first boot net.inet.carp.demotion is > 0 on A and B (which is not > expected) > - A is in MASTER state and B is in BACKUP state (which is expected) > - If I unplug the cable from A, the state changes from BACKUP -> MASTER > on B (which is expected) > - When I re-plug the cable in A, the state remains the same (A is in > BACKUP and B is in MASTER, which is *not* expexted) > - As soon as set net.inet.carp.demotion to "0" the states change as > expected (A in MASTER and B in BACKUP) >=20 > Is it normal and expected that the demotion counter is > 0 at first=20 > boot? Could this be related to the order of the interfaces? so.. I'm looking further at this and it seems that the pfsync interface is causing this, this is what I have in the logs when I boot the two boxes: (soekris1 is the MASTER and soekris2 is the BACKUP, em1 is the CARP alias and em3 the pfsync) as a test I powered on the soekris2 box first: carp: VHID 192@em1: INIT -> BACKUP carp: demoted by -240 to 720 (interface up) em1: link state changed to UP carp: VHID 192@em1: BACKUP -> MASTER (master down) some seconds later I powered on soekris1: carp: demoted by -240 to 720 (pfsync bulk done) carp: VHID 192@em1: INIT -> BACKUP carp: demoted by -240 to 480 (interface up) em1: link state changed to UP once soekris1 and soekris2 finished to boot this is what I get on=20 soekris2: em3: link state changed to DOWN em3: link state changed to UP em3: link state changed to DOWN em3: link state changed to UP carp: demoted by -240 to 480 (pfsync bulk done) >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Julien >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > Emmanuel Vadot > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" >=20 > --=20 > Julien Cigar > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --+XOiI3L4D1ypiv9E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJWaptAAAoJEAi2KiTKQR5pe9EQANfuKNLt2YwpA6W/SNXMDZZQ RpYWI/TXkFTJi2VPo0YQOXXkGygTkTO+z623x+nOOIeoXIzGWqm/WamdXTWckCNC 0lYRGqtQe+wWRDu+SF4lfNyy3PyLmoTMKfc/7NHJ2XVub75T68quR7P6k2pA2ZBu tPMbMZsrG6cT+EJkO5e3i6gneI/anZccR/Tv/YinTtiNoLLAgDcbDLok8oFMz6ul +LCQhQO/JO7+YlOOSNI8dmQzzxtxJgLcHGYDDc7HuJ6BN5YAeKkWRB3AXcAvrTm4 B42icWRu5Mv/7rqyT00ywOo4kklRssPj9/Z4u1eufCAF6tXB10qlhxGfs4p0If4V Td5wBfmcig3n6KUSB/g01n8aNacjzeMtHDAcIuR6c5l+/V+ZS82ZGaiCSCA2bz/u jQMClMkQRxbBodcoTk1rSPtFDKwPEaRSDC1ETgvU254bntefTk3VSPKJl3XYv9sR DztJIPJUCoTI9RyC1+oL3SxxtCS/Ih+Ma9UvpNbdsuFpcUN8JVv0pJbLc0ymp4eV bmkb7W/y5E/l2DhWnAaWfllHp0iW38DBt1AptnBJkiqL9isF6tnlLFHzVBJSh83L zYTN6tlmzgihX1hdt7jAxaeGkJhbXMYiy30pMWGFHoIaiLcNfzjVG+2nCLiWC88X e39YKikYh2keOmDA6Hq7 =+qHW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+XOiI3L4D1ypiv9E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 12:57:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9918E9D84EF for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CF121E48 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from [78.35.186.244] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a7N1B-0005Fo-Fg; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:41:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:41:43 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: David Benfell Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Want to reinstall, preserving existing configuration Message-ID: <20151211134143.5604454a@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <20151210132202.Horde.L-UfLdFlWeCANimy0-JWSdg@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20151210132202.Horde.L-UfLdFlWeCANimy0-JWSdg@mail.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/5Dtaar5U49rXRUla=VZ_zzL"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:57:37 -0000 --Sig_/5Dtaar5U49rXRUla=VZ_zzL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Benfell wrote: > This is about my old notebook. It has 3GB of memory, which is pretty =20 > marginal for ZFS. Adding more memory is not an option (I wish it were, =20 > but ASUS solders the memory onto the board with these systems). ZFS can be patched to work reasonably well with a lot less than 3 GB of RAM: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D187594 > But there are a couple problems which are inclining me to reinstall. =20 > First, the system is slow and I think ZFS isn't helping me. Second, I =20 > can't for the life of me figure out how to get through a portion of =20 > the make world step where the newly rebuilt base system is supposed to =20 > be installed in single-user mode--I've been having to boot all the way =20 > and do that installation on a fully live system (yes, that's worked). =20 > ZFS isn't helping me here either (I don't have this problem on UFS =20 > systems). It's not obvious to me why you blame ZFS for the installworld issue and it seems unlikely to me that switching to UFS is the only way to solve it. Fabian --Sig_/5Dtaar5U49rXRUla=VZ_zzL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlZqxIcACgkQBYqIVf93VJ31kwCgtWPTFgBPwNPxibTQlNpMhgyA vtMAoK8G7+rHqCT8g7rzeYK219sQncR7 =1Qz8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/5Dtaar5U49rXRUla=VZ_zzL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 17:23:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0799D8F7D for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (n4rky-1-pt.tunnel.tserv29.fmt1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:66:119::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4CC81340 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 8E57759792CE; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 09:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 09:23:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 09:23:41 -0800 Message-ID: <20151211092341.Horde.jw8qqC3ozQ0ONfRy8kU3v87@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: Fabian Keil Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Want to reinstall, preserving existing configuration References: <20151210132202.Horde.L-UfLdFlWeCANimy0-JWSdg@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20151211134143.5604454a@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <20151211134143.5604454a@fabiankeil.de> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_4DM4ck9ZB0Ej4PcV1e-QXqR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:23:42 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_4DM4ck9ZB0Ej4PcV1e-QXqR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Fabian Keil : > > It's not obvious to me why you blame ZFS for the installworld issue > and it seems unlikely to me that switching to UFS is the only way to > solve it. > If it were obvious what exactly the problem was under ZFS that doesn't=20= =20 appear=20under UFS, then I might have been able to solve it. "It just=20=20 doesn't=20work" (tm), there is a command (which logically must exist)=20=20 needed=20to make the environment right at that step that I couldn't=20=20 find,=20and I'm not trying to solve that one today. But 1) yes, sometimes the received wisdom that something different is=20=20 better=20isn't true; and 2) no, apparently even the new UEFI loader=20=20 still=20doesn't work on that notebook (thanks Asus, for going that extra=20= =20 ten=20miles to make it so weird and non-conforming), so with some=20=20 disgust,=20I'm going to something else on that notebook for now because=20= =20 I'm=20going out of town today and didn't have all week to solve this. --=20 David=20Benfell --=_4DM4ck9ZB0Ej4PcV1e-QXqR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJWawadAAoJEOoml8Ul4D7W04UP/jNzA10uF8dSQC1yszcngdBZ bjBFDwdgmmjMwC46jrKCAY4X/jjnT8kNU62d4Bc8+2BE5lhmkoZ/T72yCd/entH7 Ep0vi4D5JYH8n9mQQptCXGXWV6vlec/qSbHqVQKzyGLw+wXpfT/y50+FOShqWlMD 2DWwNk3rgEvw4hm1dvuO+pmTAAAgRCZ83f9gkUz2l7EIE701RSKjTLc4SBc7rfdT 1TyLmdmi5DhbSOGvolcuLF7gTCQ77rfRnvpcfjAEa/PZL3ONw/NoRKzZfmiFCFJi +rNROsDfFc7cHUKOnbh1LzbFX/926Lsy1VtX4D9V+YYelYNt73bOH29HP9C2cztv Oy6paYSQSa7rSZ8rDTwLAA22jcsuNT1hEPukoSpYYFwS5kfDYkuhwAPk0yzoMO/9 D6tTNVpsRvuKEaEsxX2cKaGH9pYUxAn0QDxvC4HMb9OM/sGSYdzZTDKyQqOvnovQ 5CN72BPEsJoraVwowvuLUcZgdzwDx8SV/bpy5b7M6EI11AIgkDZBWTSZ4H+6Aynn /Qr5tkhXLgq2zw1D17YqlP9iwdKD493G3L0Z6I9r/ZCpaYHvdgpdTq0rsaKEYGeQ 2y0Iy1W5lMUyrKeDDWV3AAwFM+IsulfeQGvc8AHuW+aPOSv8Bd7P6rBUFXN976ce j4WNLwIom89yh830PpUa =KZhK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_4DM4ck9ZB0Ej4PcV1e-QXqR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 18:35:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFBE9D7180 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Received: from riddler.lateapex.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:6969::217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "riddler.lateapex.net", Issuer "riddler.lateapex.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C53A1AC9 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (riddler.lateapex.net [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:6969:0:0:0:217]) (authenticated bits=0) by riddler.lateapex.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id tBBIZ6QE014603 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:35:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) X-Authentication-Warning: riddler.lateapex.net: Host riddler.lateapex.net [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:6969:0:0:0:217] claimed to be [127.0.0.1] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jason Van Patten Subject: New UEFI MoBo, Slow Boots in "Legacy" Message-ID: <566B175E.5070406@lateapex.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:35:10 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=MTA-Peer; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; sender-ip=2001:470:e2f8:6969::217; sender-helo=[127.0.0.1]; X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=SessionId; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; sessionid='ef36d30dd39a429496c81ffaf8063820'; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:35:08 -0000 Hey gang - I'm trying to build a new router using Gigabyte's GA-H170N-WIFI board, which is armed with a version of AMI's UEFI. The first fail I ran into was with the FreeBSD 10.2 EFI memstick installer. It would page fault during the kernel load every single time, in the same spot. I changed over to the non-EFI memstick, and it boots. However... the boot time is *insanely* slow. As in: it takes over 5 minutes for the kernel to finish loading. Once the rc scripts hit, everything is quite quick. But it's that boot time that's ridiculous. The same happens once I install 10.2 (non-EFI) and reboot using the disk: very slow boot time. As an important aside: I did try the latest 11.0 snapshot in EFI mode. It boots and installs fine. But I'm not keen on bleeding edge, specially for a router. So I'm a bit stumped. Is there A)any way I can *significantly* speed up the legacy booting, or B)any fix for the EFI boot crashing w/10.2? Thanks. -- Jason Van Patten From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 20:05:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17089A040E5 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cytseng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22e.google.com (mail-qk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D02251BE6 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cytseng@gmail.com) Received: by qkdp187 with SMTP id p187so55391364qkd.1 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:05:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lFuZGYtWIYnf35+8I6xJc0Co8+JsdXgCrCzlIejnBB8=; b=ft/lHp96MRWUn4BImrIlI3o11pR8E7Ba0itaKG+PPGi+QEZvnyd/mP/8K2ZPzlo6zK /3n5YAJG39tXJgBQfkodGYAPK9ghLRCE879ixhlezBQE8nrGV3kxS9YVZW1wyMBTq2rQ A5AKCTUTXzqU9aHWEB3Ln5sK3sbmw3TJrX/29lNKSKu0R8xzZn6Gjz62Iki/13RbqZai oElE3aDwJclxGnqDPGQUztoyPX/jhyiFtOT0HHhJrZ4Na5wcvp34nhC0Npw252Ffsh7v AY2xKuvdDIGejJIIRU/R8hHFHjKRr/2MDYcnZP9aD3E3kDyYCXxSxF4VLwTeDvvl59gz LF3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.247.129 with SMTP id h123mr10175635ywf.321.1449864335972; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.195.1 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:05:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 04:05:35 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Why don't I connect to svn.freebsd.org or svnmir.freebsd.org From: =?UTF-8?B?5pu+56W65YWD?= To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:05:37 -0000 Hello FreeBSD Admins Because we have many freebsd servers want to update by svn (sunlit), so we want to create a svn mirror site for our servers. We created our svn mirror site about Aug 26 refer this URL data. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/subversion-primer.html And it worked well. But a few days ago, we got this message from svnsync. svnsync: E000060: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'svn:// svnmir.freebsd.org/ports' svnsync: E000060: Can't connect to host 'svnmir.freebsd.org': Operation timed out We thought our server be blocked by svnmir.freebsd.org. So how do we apply for reconnecting to svnmir.freebsd.org or svn.freebds.org ? Thank You very much. Chi-Yuan Tseng From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 20:08:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564D0A042EC for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAE801CF0 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id c17so24460809wmd.1 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:08:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nQ9cw0wGaO5wxSjqE4cbYTmAvQGVDDRKYPFhKCgcovw=; b=mYk3iAIdWZZCRi0nNzOx3Y0bCMu783iD5gVpXM38lDQaMT+dOdiVFxPjT5oLb464Qd qZAzYC0qXwwvHZwrDxGt6OgdVIKKK4RfhxZNzMGoPfwhWjkSlf/EMIzAcPo0jEIs16Ev CpD01uEXUEu+9f0idcNg5xQW9bsJMiTvHB85XmQqVeqAsbkad0VAZDvFXepHdpytD202 l3DD0hZcbrVqS2/Rc3EEw74WpiMa4Hy+Q8eVvWb+369+b2W7x2U98EgHryEnKXtujumn Qa69LkUcvXkj2Dg13FSwsqm9SMBx0k5ypK9bylEu34iySIQWiUCICYXdZTjPFPW//oHi I6Zg== X-Received: by 10.194.111.232 with SMTP id il8mr4454331wjb.150.1449864496404; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:08:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:07:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 22:07:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why don't I connect to svn.freebsd.org or svnmir.freebsd.org To: =?UTF-8?B?5pu+56W65YWD?= Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:08:19 -0000 2015-12-11 22:05 GMT+02:00 =E6=9B=BE=E7=A5=BA=E5=85=83 : > Hello FreeBSD Admins > > Because we have many freebsd servers want to update by svn (sunlit), so w= e > want to create a svn mirror site for our servers. > > We created our svn mirror site about Aug 26 refer this URL data. > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/subversion-prime= r.html > > And it worked well. > > But a few days ago, we got this message from svnsync. > svnsync: E000060: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'svn:// > svnmir.freebsd.org/ports' > svnsync: E000060: Can't connect to host 'svnmir.freebsd.org': Operation > timed out > > We thought our server be blocked by svnmir.freebsd.org. > > So how do we apply for reconnecting to svnmir.freebsd.org or svn.freebds.= org > ? https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/svn.html >The FreeBSD Subversion repository is: >svn.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 21:14:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285549D7F52 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cytseng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22d.google.com (mail-qk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF38E1C0B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cytseng@gmail.com) Received: by qkck189 with SMTP id k189so22593040qkc.0 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:14:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BBdX6ytwmiRnaqmYkoUrn8B2j4gg5I76luc08rMQk/0=; b=dxTLYxgVQW8UjfxTS51AznAEhFMpb3A6jpEhOnQ/5QoImsXWV4O2hHYTKNWVAXz3BO AXbZqlIBq8eCV278NJEC3VYTVYaz2FoKjZ+R1FK9pP6zh/NJEyFNuuwzkIzQR/wO63Uo I9NmjsRvrQAqEDHSo6+O8BxPgQj3fxKGOQ4ZLslrPnN8VTO9S8J5wCLJJpJIjtBmAhPP 7MbDBlqrP/zDLzXGBVL/lIF37tIxBIL+T3xWfeHsfiYjqZgvHmMjPJrBIJvA3zfCLZwR bCkvLNOWF3M3ymBm4BknqviT0DUg4Vn+m3GuVMK2qOS6x6WbbkLVI/X5ccHjSioewY6l gpAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.146.197 with SMTP id j188mr10603096ywg.19.1449868483985; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.195.1 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:14:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 05:14:43 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why don't I connect to svn.freebsd.org or svnmir.freebsd.org From: =?UTF-8?B?5pu+56W65YWD?= To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:14:45 -0000 2015-12-12 4:07 GMT+08:00 Anton Sayetsky : > 2015-12-11 22:05 GMT+02:00 =E6=9B=BE=E7=A5=BA=E5=85=83 : > > Hello FreeBSD Admins > > > > Because we have many freebsd servers want to update by svn (sunlit), so > we > > want to create a svn mirror site for our servers. > > > > We created our svn mirror site about Aug 26 refer this URL data. > > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/subversion-prime= r.html > > > > And it worked well. > > > > But a few days ago, we got this message from svnsync. > > svnsync: E000060: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'svn:// > > svnmir.freebsd.org/ports' > > svnsync: E000060: Can't connect to host 'svnmir.freebsd.org': Operation > > timed out > > > > We thought our server be blocked by svnmir.freebsd.org. > > > > So how do we apply for reconnecting to svnmir.freebsd.org or > svn.freebds.org > > ? > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/svn.html > >The FreeBSD Subversion repository is: > >svn.FreeBSD.org > svnmir.freebsd.org =3D svn.freebsd.org They are the same IP Address. (140.113.168.170) nslookup svnmireebsd.org Server: 192.168.10.11 Address: 192.168.10.11#53 ~ Non-authoritative answer: svnmir.freebsd.org canonical name =3D svnmir.geo.freebsd.org. Name: svnmir.geo.freebsd.org Address: 140.113.168.170 nslookup svn.freebsd.org Server: 192.168.10.11 Address: 192.168.10.11#53 ~ Non-authoritative answer: svn.freebsd.org canonical name =3D svnmir.geo.freebsd.org. Name: svnmir.geo.freebsd.org Address: 140.113.168.170 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 21:17:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBDDA041D3 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DCA01D57 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsasjason@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id l68so31659657wml.0 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:17:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hFhcBqvwExNH1ml/Axp/1gx6zwGcByVUuPwcv7xIoNY=; b=aqFHCr8j9S1lwMwt+sENv8t4LTkp9eu/12tgRxArxOFsd83+9BkHh5dItAACtxSfAk bvHDx3q7OcR+/qy+hUgw3Ii8SKdpgTdGxRc2L/g/lBRNAKvU52COEuFbna7L+jl142K7 7oXHxpt+OWBV1v4CaS7FJWxGzlpFdCxVlbxWwQUagRf969+1yIn8PXoq2k8n87ZynO5t ZMEAEnEox9lBcwxtJIfZqDHH3qkIEBgpHthXRD7kiFovF5ifAvwcxuLH6I0kfcIzpzCX O/gYovPuQeYmGlWFIU9tWorfrolX/UPlBlre+J7vPxJ63ZYFmLntsA9GouM6+9Ud8Mm0 RQ2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.32.22 with SMTP id g22mr8166833wmg.43.1449868636757; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.140.75 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:17:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 23:17:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why don't I connect to svn.freebsd.org or svnmir.freebsd.org From: Anton Sayetsky To: =?UTF-8?B?5pu+56W65YWD?= Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:17:19 -0000 11 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 23:14 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "=E6=9B=BE=E7=A5=BA=E5=85=83" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > 2015-12-12 4:07 GMT+08:00 Anton Sayetsky : >> >> 2015-12-11 22:05 GMT+02:00 =E6=9B=BE=E7=A5=BA=E5=85=83 : >> > Hello FreeBSD Admins >> > >> > Because we have many freebsd servers want to update by svn (sunlit), so we >> > want to create a svn mirror site for our servers. >> > >> > We created our svn mirror site about Aug 26 refer this URL data. >> > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/subversion-primer.= html >> > >> > And it worked well. >> > >> > But a few days ago, we got this message from svnsync. >> > svnsync: E000060: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'svn:// >> > svnmir.freebsd.org/ports' >> > svnsync: E000060: Can't connect to host 'svnmir.freebsd.org': Operatio= n >> > timed out >> > >> > We thought our server be blocked by svnmir.freebsd.org. >> > >> > So how do we apply for reconnecting to svnmir.freebsd.org or svn.freebds.org >> > ? >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/svn.html >> >The FreeBSD Subversion repository is: >> >svn.FreeBSD.org > > > svnmir.freebsd.org =3D svn.freebsd.org > They are the same IP Address. (140.113.168.170) > > nslookup svnmireebsd.org > Server: 192.168.10.11 > Address: 192.168.10.11#53 > ~ > Non-authoritative answer: > svnmir.freebsd.org canonical name =3D svnmir.geo.freebsd.org. > Name: svnmir.geo.freebsd.org > Address: 140.113.168.170 > > nslookup svn.freebsd.org > Server: 192.168.10.11 > Address: 192.168.10.11#53 > ~ > Non-authoritative answer: > svn.freebsd.org canonical name =3D svnmir.geo.freebsd.org. > Name: svnmir.geo.freebsd.org > Address: 140.113.168.170 Unfortunately, I suspect your network connection problem in this case. Try to run traceroute. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 21:37:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444E99D756D for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cytseng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x231.google.com (mail-qk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03A281BCE for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cytseng@gmail.com) Received: by qkck189 with SMTP id k189so23442095qkc.0 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:37:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hAgAXef87B+Z1WBaDApCg/M3SA6m+7LbHeJZtU+LoVY=; b=r3nkJ92mtcqQ11UI5pSh3BB4702JevAZw4VG0aY/0wzJGfI7p+9YpEaMadQiChSiyb dn8U9x+8N+errPBxLUolTYDVuppFu5TbJa+CSnhMEytzRkyM5h3z/jB9zgI7ujNST9Qh bRFjnTLAKHbrXuNR5IeKggLpNMR1rWutYb2iX8zAyJU3B9Z6vPwK0AB465eB6DIGp0nA +NFCamCpjxIk1IYZCcg5MfzwMolITjCQFO0Tptd+2C8lkQJkT6GzP8LhyiEUixsKG4bD 4goLeJY5ChdCdQ7cGhi2Ba/NYwtMMjOs/TQORRhWnxJ/aaPERr9V0Hb0Wq8+PeyxSnu5 UXUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.222.195 with SMTP id h186mr10417486ywe.39.1449869870474; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.195.1 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:37:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 05:37:50 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why don't I connect to svn.freebsd.org or svnmir.freebsd.org From: =?UTF-8?B?5pu+56W65YWD?= To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:37:52 -0000 2015-12-12 5:17 GMT+08:00 Anton Sayetsky : > 11 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2015 =D0=B3. 23:14 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7= =D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "=E6=9B=BE=E7=A5=BA=E5=85=83" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > > > > 2015-12-12 4:07 GMT+08:00 Anton Sayetsky : > >> > >> 2015-12-11 22:05 GMT+02:00 =E6=9B=BE=E7=A5=BA=E5=85=83 : > >> > Hello FreeBSD Admins > >> > > >> > Because we have many freebsd servers want to update by svn (sunlit), > so we > >> > want to create a svn mirror site for our servers. > >> > > >> > We created our svn mirror site about Aug 26 refer this URL data. > >> > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/subversion-prime= r.html > >> > > >> > And it worked well. > >> > > >> > But a few days ago, we got this message from svnsync. > >> > svnsync: E000060: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'svn:// > >> > svnmir.freebsd.org/ports' > >> > svnsync: E000060: Can't connect to host 'svnmir.freebsd.org': > Operation > >> > timed out > >> > > >> > We thought our server be blocked by svnmir.freebsd.org. > >> > > >> > So how do we apply for reconnecting to svnmir.freebsd.org or > svn.freebds.org > >> > ? > >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/svn.html > >> >The FreeBSD Subversion repository is: > >> >svn.FreeBSD.org > > > > > > svnmir.freebsd.org =3D svn.freebsd.org > > They are the same IP Address. (140.113.168.170) > > > > nslookup svnmireebsd.org > > Server: 192.168.10.11 > > Address: 192.168.10.11#53 > > ~ > > Non-authoritative answer: > > svnmir.freebsd.org canonical name =3D svnmir.geo.freebsd.org. > > Name: svnmir.geo.freebsd.org > > Address: 140.113.168.170 > > > > nslookup svn.freebsd.org > > Server: 192.168.10.11 > > Address: 192.168.10.11#53 > > ~ > > Non-authoritative answer: > > svn.freebsd.org canonical name =3D svnmir.geo.freebsd.org. > > Name: svnmir.geo.freebsd.org > > Address: 140.113.168.170 > Unfortunately, I suspect your network connection problem in this case. Tr= y > to run traceroute. > > Thanks We solve it. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 11 23:40:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A48A048EF for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 23:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Received: from riddler.lateapex.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:6969::217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "riddler.lateapex.net", Issuer "riddler.lateapex.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B72571DE2 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 23:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Received: from deadshot.private.lateapex.net (deadshot.private.lateapex.net [IPv6:2001:470:e2f8:7777:1610:9fff:fed4:ad15]) (authenticated bits=0) by riddler.lateapex.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id tBBNelCd018023 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:40:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jvp@lateapex.net) Subject: Re: New UEFI MoBo, Slow Boots in "Legacy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <566B175E.5070406@lateapex.net> From: Jason Van Patten Message-ID: <566B5EFF.8030407@lateapex.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:40:47 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566B175E.5070406@lateapex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=MTA-Peer; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; sender-ip=2001:470:e2f8:7777:1610:9fff:fed4:ad15; sender-helo=deadshot.private.lateapex.net; X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=GeoIP; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; ip=2001:470:e2f8:7777:1610:9fff:fed4:ad15; CC=--; X-Milter: Spamilter DataSet=SessionId; receiver=riddler.lateapex.net; sessionid='734d6aa06d9205f5f483b1c8ab3cb780'; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 23:40:52 -0000 On 12/11/15 1:35 PM, Jason Van Patten wrote: > So I'm a bit stumped. Is there A)any way I can *significantly* speed up > the legacy booting, or B)any fix for the EFI boot crashing w/10.2? I snagged the 11/30/2015 snapshot of 10.2-STABLE. That installer booted fine in UEFI mode, installed fine, and has rebooted (via disk) fine. And since I can snag packages (pkg) for 10.2 with this version, all good. Now, does this 10.2-STABLE eventually become 10.3? Is that how that works? -- Jason Van Patten From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 00:11:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A163A055C5 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 00:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0CDE10F8 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 00:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: by wmnn186 with SMTP id n186so52734532wmn.0 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 16:11:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tnvTTX0BK71H/igzsBfw1Bl2RDu8ySuscMV5QfmUwMc=; b=nwUECDWOjUm9UOyLUiKB9zsKZVHedeCHMyJTKH/CfwjKC80xiNcZdvpVEX8DKBPoVc rDmqbHY0+CCR6BlEy21QBV2j2p2+GxJBuqpTUIhVkaePrYmL41QZmCceJxEXs7ZMsdUt Yzs9pnY7OOagSVOPDNTSH/Frlna5B3pr2UC6Y23767ouwzeRSwq3T78pz5SLn6pX0rry JZ6gpzapK4eKL57cWPieQZlh0UQbzBfZ4NHtAeO/lVgnezeDs0aNWLyf/qwUIbYicTK2 iP0wN/qCtQOmCRNxNLEjUqjJ8i3rjqLbSj+lwuDK2AaH1RtBB8o/eYQlr34LvxFcPhGp 724g== X-Received: by 10.28.171.135 with SMTP id u129mr6117638wme.99.1449879091466; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 16:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from Johans-MacBook-Air.local (92-111-79-242.static.chello.nl. [92.111.79.242]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t64sm5402691wmf.23.2015.12.11.16.11.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Dec 2015 16:11:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: New UEFI MoBo, Slow Boots in "Legacy" To: Jason Van Patten References: <566B175E.5070406@lateapex.net> <566B5EFF.8030407@lateapex.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Johan Hendriks Message-ID: <566B6631.6090601@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 01:11:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566B5EFF.8030407@lateapex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 00:11:33 -0000 Op 12/12/15 om 00:40 schreef Jason Van Patten: > On 12/11/15 1:35 PM, Jason Van Patten wrote: >> So I'm a bit stumped. Is there A)any way I can *significantly* speed up >> the legacy booting, or B)any fix for the EFI boot crashing w/10.2? > > I snagged the 11/30/2015 snapshot of 10.2-STABLE. That installer > booted fine in UEFI mode, installed fine, and has rebooted (via disk) > fine. And since I can snag packages (pkg) for 10.2 with this version, > all good. > > Now, does this 10.2-STABLE eventually become 10.3? Is that how that > works? Yes that is how it works. I think 10.3 will be the last 10.x version, or maybe a 10.4. Nice reads! https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/index.html regards Johan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 10:49:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD0CA145B0 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A23F51E94 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from kw.news4all.se (netlaser-2 [10.0.0.6]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id tBCAL1g5010567 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:21:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Please erase all the messages that I posted in FreeBSD Forums that are written in FreeBSD Forums! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20151209151425.62039e4e@archlinux.localdomain> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <566BF50C.4020505@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:21:01 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151209151425.62039e4e@archlinux.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:49:06 -0000 On 2015-12-09 15:14, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > Could somebody please delete my replies to this thread? Done! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 11:50:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D402A141C3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555DB188B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 53760A141C2; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5318FA141C1 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDECC188A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id p66so5315682wmp.1 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 03:50:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9APp10fLV+euTbFr5Zk8mXFZTZUVlk0OOy+iHmhFgBs=; b=WYG12BpeYG2K0HJjiwomNhWiuthe2NuGdW5RfFqCfLGGxnvlA4jT/GtcrM/633N7AO cf4FFl98mFZKJeSaQ+9pKjaOOCjv99aU7HfPWo7wjJx5mxt8Bzu2ED2F20dhUX0YC9Mi YKJ6ei3EYqa7ygfbyDU6hkh1r3OwQo/RzmfIjEVkgXqIY0esLwgCb+2POiTtRZ251zEP EgDK0RNkiOu2nUd9OMG2YT3y/Jd1yFQ0pYifJfpao2I76apcrVhheZkirHdr7x5BOZE+ SX65an4sx3bA9rx0ATXaMMLCydFnzbtSm7uROC6zWF8NyMVA5UN+/M1copACuHH/BbfW mwqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.178.135 with SMTP id cy7mr25599318wjc.61.1449921000213; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 03:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.152.162 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 03:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.152.162 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 03:50:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:50:00 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Upgrade from 8.4 to 10.2 From: Peter Harrison To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:50:02 -0000 Hello list. I have a server I want to upgrade from 8.4-R to 10.2 using a binary upgrade. What's the preferred way of doing that? Ie. Should I jump to 9 first? And can I safely do it remotely or do I need to be on front of the console? Thanks on advance. Peter. Peter Harrison From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 12:22:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50BCA14071 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aberg010@my.HennepinTech.edu) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bn0103.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.110.103]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F2C21BE2 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aberg010@my.HennepinTech.edu) Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=aberg010@my.HennepinTech.edu; Received: from [IPv6:2601:440:c000:85dd::30] (2601:440:c000:85dd::30) by CY1PR03MB1504.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.163.17.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.355.16; 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Ie. Should I jump to 9 first? And > can I safely do it remotely or do I need to be on front of the console? It would be best to go to 9.3 first, and it's a good idea to have console access just in case something goes wrong or you make a mistake somewhere. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 12:33:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19BFA14A26 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BBFD12F1 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.118.103.240] (2.150.18.50.tmi.telenormobil.no [2.150.18.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A7D5C41; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Upgrade from 8.4 to 10.2 From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) In-Reply-To: <566C1177.7010900@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:33:11 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <05930DAC-9997-48F3-8A36-C23616058423@elde.net> References: <566C1177.7010900@my.hennepintech.edu> To: Andrew Berg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:33:21 -0000 > On 12 Dec 2015, at 13:22, Andrew Berg wrote= : >=20 > It would be best to go to 9.3 first, and it's a good idea to have console > access just in case something goes wrong or you make a mistake somewhere. This.=20 But also, if at all possible, I highly recommend testing the upgrade first. P= erhaps restore a backup to another system, and upgrade that for example.=20 FreeBSD is in my experience quite stable and offers relatively little troubl= e, but better safe than sorry.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 14:05:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11959D632F for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959991F80 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 930889D632E; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AFF9D632D for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A9841F7F for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1a7knb-0007hd-Bx for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:05:25 +0600 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id tBCE65hf042079 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:06:05 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id tBCE60bI042016 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:06:00 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:06:00 +0600 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Looking for AMD APU based laptop with good FreeBSD support Message-ID: <20151212140559.GA33436@regency.nsu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Lua-Profiles: 88172 [Dec 12 2015] X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Version: 5.5.6 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Envelope-From: danfe@regency.nsu.ru X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Rate: 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not_detected X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Method: none X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Moebius-Timestamps: 3866863, 3866878, 3866829 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Info: LuaCore: 378 378 1e7ea7963800114ee93165eacd681fad09c7a7a4, 127.0.0.200:7.1.3; regency.nsu.ru:7.1.1; d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.com:7.1.1; 193.124.210.26:7.1.2,7.1.3; nsu.ru:7.1.1; 127.0.0.199:7.1.2; www.hp.com:4.0.4,7.1.1 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: scan successful X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2015/12/07 15:50:10 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, license restriction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:05:38 -0000 Hi there, As FreeBSD currently still lacks proper support for Haswell, I'm starting to consider if getting an AMD APU based laptop, while its CPU being slower than even i3, could be a viable alternative for the time being (provided everything else, including but not limited to suspend/resume, works fine). Requirements: 14", 4+ cores (or 2+ AMD modules), unsoldered RAM up to 16GB (2+ slots), no secondary (auxiliary, discrete) gfx card (AMD's internal graphics is good enough and I don't want another potential point of failure, standard SATA, gigabit Ethernet, WiFi, Bluetooth. Fully working suspend and resume: I can tolerate having to reinitialize network/sound card or Bluetooth stack, but not a reboot. Would be nice: good/easy disassembly and repairability, IPS screen or being able to replace default TN one, standard DisplayPort rather than proprietary HDMI, optical drive (to replace with HDD/SSD caddy), backlit keyboard, no webcam, no preinstalled Windoze. FireWire- or COM-port, unsoldered CPU -- couldn't be better. Candidates so far: 1. HP ProBook 645 G1: looking at the datasheet [1] it has almost everything I need, plus you can probably ask for Atheros WiFi chip instead of Broadcom. Socketed APU (FS1r2) means you can get a cheap A4 and replace with A10 at a better price than HP currently offers. 2. HP EliteBook 745 G2 and G3: got metal case, newer APU, but lacks CD/DVD drive, lighter than ProBook. I don't see Atheros option in the datasheet [2] anymore though, and it says "1 USB 3.0; 1 USB 3.0 charging" for G3 which is probably a typo (I hope) and there're still 4 USB ports total. But it's more expensive than ProBook, so overall option #1 makes a better choice ATM. Questions to the community: Did anyone have chance to try FreeBSD and perhaps compare these two models? Shall I avoid them for some reason (bad craftsmanship, inefficient cooling system, battery leaking current, etc.)? Are there other laptops on AMD APU except those HP's worth considering? Thanks, ./danfe [1] http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2013/CommercialPPSFall2013/HPPr obook645G1NotebookPC_datasheet.pdf [2] http://www.hp.com/sbso/hpinfo/newsroom/HPElitePC2015/HPEliteBook745G3Noteboo kPC.pdf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 14:30:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08C0A145D2 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3A1E47 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D3E49A145D1; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0EFA145D0 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FCC11E46 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 74ee214c; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 6534a246 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:30:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1449930638.6661.10.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Looking for AMD APU based laptop with good FreeBSD support From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Alexey Dokuchaev , questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:30:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20151212140559.GA33436@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20151212140559.GA33436@regency.nsu.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:30:49 -0000 On Sat, 2015-12-12 at 20:06 +0600, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > Hi there, > > As FreeBSD currently still lacks proper support for Haswell, I'm > starting > to consider if getting an AMD APU based laptop, while its CPU being > slower > than even i3, could be a viable alternative for the time being > (provided > everything else, including but not limited to suspend/resume, works > fine). > > Requirements: 14", 4+ cores (or 2+ AMD modules), unsoldered RAM up to > 16GB > (2+ slots), no secondary (auxiliary, discrete) gfx card (AMD's > internal > graphics is good enough and I don't want another potential point of > failure, > standard SATA, gigabit Ethernet, WiFi, Bluetooth.  Fully working > suspend > and resume: I can tolerate having to reinitialize network/sound card > or > Bluetooth stack, but not a reboot. > > Would be nice: good/easy disassembly and repairability, IPS screen or > being > able to replace default TN one, standard DisplayPort rather than > proprietary > HDMI, optical drive (to replace with HDD/SSD caddy), backlit > keyboard, no > webcam, no preinstalled Windoze.  FireWire- or COM-port, unsoldered > CPU -- > couldn't be better. > > Candidates so far: > > 1. HP ProBook 645 G1: looking at the datasheet [1] it has almost > everything > I need, plus you can probably ask for Atheros WiFi chip instead of > Broadcom. > Socketed APU (FS1r2) means you can get a cheap A4 and replace with > A10 at a > better price than HP currently offers. > > 2. HP EliteBook 745 G2 and G3: got metal case, newer APU, but lacks > CD/DVD > drive, lighter than ProBook.  I don't see Atheros option in the > datasheet [2] > anymore though, and it says "1 USB 3.0; 1 USB 3.0 charging" for G3 > which is > probably a typo (I hope) and there're still 4 USB ports total.  But > it's more > expensive than ProBook, so overall option #1 makes a better choice > ATM. > > Questions to the community: > > Did anyone have chance to try FreeBSD and perhaps compare these two > models? > Shall I avoid them for some reason (bad craftsmanship, inefficient > cooling > system, battery leaking current, etc.)?  Are there other laptops on > AMD APU > except those HP's worth considering?  Thanks, Well, HP is one of the worst offenders with device whitelisting, swapping out wifi on them is rarely worth the trouble. Also Haswell graphics is close, really close, I have been running the git branch for a while now and things are almost there. And finally, for what it is worth, Kris Moore of PCBSD has mentioned that he has been able to run Haswell and Broadwell with the VESA driver while waiting. Just more data points, I am not saying your choices are bad or wrong, just more data. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 14:44:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1670CA14167 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B5619D3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id EFE5EA14166; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7A8A14165 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A155F19D2 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1a7lPl-0003xS-UB; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:44:51 +0600 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id tBCEjWcX052235; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:45:32 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id tBCEjQQ9052224; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:45:26 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:45:26 +0600 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: "Michael B. Eichorn" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for AMD APU based laptop with good FreeBSD support Message-ID: <20151212144526.GA49628@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20151212140559.GA33436@regency.nsu.ru> <1449930638.6661.10.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1449930638.6661.10.camel@michaeleichorn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Lua-Profiles: 88175 [Dec 12 2015] X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Version: 5.5.6 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Envelope-From: danfe@regency.nsu.ru X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Rate: 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not_detected X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Method: none X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Moebius-Timestamps: 3866895, 3866906, 3866829 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Info: LuaCore: 378 378 1e7ea7963800114ee93165eacd681fad09c7a7a4, 127.0.0.200:7.1.3; regency.nsu.ru:7.1.1; d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.com:7.1.1; 193.124.210.26:7.1.2,7.1.3; nsu.ru:7.1.1; 127.0.0.199:7.1.2 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: scan successful X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2015/12/07 15:50:10 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, license restriction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:57 -0000 On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 09:30:38AM -0500, Michael B. Eichorn wrote: > Well, HP is one of the worst offenders with device whitelisting, > swapping out wifi on them is rarely worth the trouble. Yeah I know; not so long ago it was possible to outwit their whitelisting without patching the BIOS code [1] but apparently it got worse from what I've heard. :-( > Also Haswell graphics is close, really close, I have been running the > git branch for a while now and things are almost there. > > And finally, for what it is worth, Kris Moore of PCBSD has mentioned > that he has been able to run Haswell and Broadwell with the VESA driver > while waiting. VESA is fine if all you need is plain X11 and xterm. I'd like to have decent OpenGL performance though, given that AMD's still ahead of Intel in this field. > Just more data points, I am not saying your choices are bad or wrong, > just more data. Understood, thanks for replying. ./danfe [1] http://milksnot.com/content/project-dirty-laundry-how-defeat-whitelisting-without-bios-modding From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 15:31:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4362A14232; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 15:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A3081D76; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 15:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBCFUsVg024988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:30:54 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! , FreeBSD X11 mailing list From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: problems running OpenGL code Message-ID: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:36:23 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 15:31:02 -0000 I have an inhouse OpenGL code named PreBFCGL.TEST which I am trying to run. I get the following when I tried about 5 min. ago: [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:21am] 936 % PreBFCGL.TEST Segmentation fault (core dumped) [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:38am] 937 % cat BFC.LOG PreBFCGL.TEST: begin WAM III pre-processor execution on host kabini1.local .... PreBFCGL.TEST: compiled on Dec 12 2015 @ 06:04:00. PreBFCGL.TEST: commence execution on Sat Dec 12 09:30:37 2015. PreBFCGL.TEST: sizeof(short) 2, sizeof(int) 4, sizeof(long) 8, sizeof(clock_t) 4, sizeof(time_t) 8. PreBFCGL.TEST: sizeof(float) 4, sizeof(real) 4, sizeof(double) 8, sizeof(void *) 8, ticks 128. Couldn't find configuration file './.BFCrc', couldn't find '/home/wam/.BFCrc', giving up. Alpha: changing Verbosity from Silent to Normal. Gen2D: setting up for chatty 2 (Normal) .... done. Gen3D: setting up for chatty 2 (Normal) .... done. Main: Updating Verbosity from 0 (Silent) to 2 (Normal) .... SetReadVerbosity: Updating Verbosity from 0 (Silent) to 2 (Normal) .... Changing Expertise from Novice to Standard. SetExprLoud: setting chatty from 0 to 2 .... Interactive mode execution, individual case(s), Debug 0, DbgMem 0, Standard expertise, Normal verbosity. DebugVarbls: var'bl verbosity reset from 0 to 2 .... DebugVarbls: var'bl verbosity reset from 2 to 3 .... DISPLAY ->:0.0<- (Local) Machine epsilons: raw 4 bits float 5.96046E-08 9.53674E-07 double 1.11022E-16 1.77636E-15 InitGraphics: begin .... Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: No RGB visual with depth buffer Done, Bailing out .... Saving Model Command File to Model_0.in .... done. [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:49am] 938 % sysctl -a | grep -B1 -A2 -i model hw.machine: amd64 hw.model: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with Radeon(tm) R3 hw.ncpu: 4 hw.byteorder: 1234 -- dev.rgephy.0.%location: phyno=1 dev.rgephy.0.%pnpinfo: oui=0xe04c model=0x0 rev=0x0 dev.rgephy.0.%parent: miibus0 dev.xhci.0.%desc: XHCI (generic) USB 3.0 controller [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:33:08am] 939 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:33:13am] 940 % Am I hosed until 3D OpenGL works for AMD jaguars ? If so, how is progress on that front ? These are fairly common APUs, widely used in laptops, some low-end desktops & some tablets, it would be sweet to get this going :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 16:35:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C11A3B290; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 16:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D9EA19A0; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 16:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC0983CE19; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:35:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id tBCGZA7r001988; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:35:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:35:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! , FreeBSD X11 mailing list Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Message-Id: <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 16:35:20 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:36:23 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I have an inhouse OpenGL code named PreBFCGL.TEST which I am trying to > run. I get the following when I tried about 5 min. ago: > > > [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:21am] 936 % PreBFCGL.TEST > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:38am] 937 % cat BFC.LOG > [...] > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > Error: No RGB visual with depth buffer > > Done, Bailing out .... > Saving Model Command File to Model_0.in .... done. It seems to be an X error - the GL extension (GLX) is not loaded. If you're running X with xorg.conf, make sure Section "Module" [...] Load "glx" [...] EndSection is being defined. For OpenGL, other things like direct rendering (DRI, DRM) might be needed. You can always check this with tools like glxinfo, xdriinfo, glxgears, or other programs that make use of OpenGL (for example, "xlock -mode fire" or "xlock -mode lament"). The top of "glxinfo" output should look like this: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation server glx version string: 1.4 server glx extensions: [...] client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: [...] GLX version: 1.4 Of course your graphics hardware should be reflected accordingly. :-) For this to work, I had to put drm_load="YES" nvidia_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf - in your case, something similar will probably be needed. ALso make sure to install relevant libraries as needed (libGL, libGLU, libdrm, Mesa, ...). > Am I hosed until 3D OpenGL works for AMD jaguars ? If so, how is > progress on that front ? These are fairly common APUs, widely used in > laptops, some low-end desktops & some tablets, it would be sweet to get > this going :-) .... As far as I know, this special kind of "graphics card" isn't that easy to use. It starts with the proper driver. Which one are you currently using? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 16:56:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2790AA14314; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 16:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F068A116F; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 16:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBCGuiJc005856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:56:45 -0600 Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! , FreeBSD X11 mailing list From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:02:13 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 16:56:47 -0000 On 12/12/15 10:41, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:36:23 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> I have an inhouse OpenGL code named PreBFCGL.TEST which I am trying to >> run. I get the following when I tried about 5 min. ago: >> >> >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:21am] 936 % PreBFCGL.TEST >> Segmentation fault (core dumped) >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:38am] 937 % cat BFC.LOG >> [...] >> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >> Error: No RGB visual with depth buffer >> >> Done, Bailing out .... >> Saving Model Command File to Model_0.in .... done. > It seems to be an X error - the GL extension (GLX) is not > loaded. If you're running X with xorg.conf, make sure > > Section "Module" > [...] > Load "glx" > [...] > EndSection Check. > > is being defined. For OpenGL, other things like direct > rendering (DRI, DRM) might be needed. You can always > check this with tools like glxinfo, xdriinfo, glxgears, > or other programs that make use of OpenGL (for example, > "xlock -mode fire" or "xlock -mode lament"). > > The top of "glxinfo" output should look like this: > > name of display: :0.0 > display: :0 screen: 0 > direct rendering: Yes > server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > server glx version string: 1.4 > server glx extensions: > [...] > client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > client glx version string: 1.4 > client glx extensions: > [...] > GLX version: 1.4 Hmmmm: [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:18am] 767 % glxinfo glxinfo: Command not found. [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:19am] 768 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % > > Of course your graphics hardware should be reflected accordingly. :-) > > For this to work, I had to put > > drm_load="YES" > nvidia_load="YES" Hmmmm .... OK, just did that. Do have them installed: [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % grep -i drm LIST.installed.txt drm-kmod-9.280208 FreeBSD 9.3 Kernel DRM driver libdrm-2.4.60,1 Userspace interface to kernel Direct Rendering Module services [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:09am] 770 % grep -i nvidia LIST.installed.txt nvidia-driver-340-340.93 NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:16am] 771 % I just 'kldload'-ed drm & nvidia, I'll try again momentarily .... > > in /boot/loader.conf - in your case, something similar will probably > be needed. ALso make sure to install relevant libraries as needed > (libGL, libGLU, libdrm, Mesa, ...). Check. > > > >> Am I hosed until 3D OpenGL works for AMD jaguars ? If so, how is >> progress on that front ? These are fairly common APUs, widely used in >> laptops, some low-end desktops & some tablets, it would be sweet to get >> this going :-) .... > As far as I know, this special kind of "graphics card" isn't that > easy to use. It starts with the proper driver. Which one are you > currently using? Uuuuuuuuuhhhh .... Not sure. VESA, I think, how do I check ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 17:03:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBEEA14947; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5257E161E; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBCH3hUp009990 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:03:44 -0600 Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:09:13 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:03:45 -0000 On 12/12/15 11:01, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 12/12/15 10:41, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:36:23 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>> I have an inhouse OpenGL code named PreBFCGL.TEST which I am trying to >>> run. I get the following when I tried about 5 min. ago: >>> >>> >>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:21am] 936 % PreBFCGL.TEST >>> Segmentation fault (core dumped) >>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:38am] 937 % cat BFC.LOG >>> [...] >>> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >>> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >>> Error: No RGB visual with depth buffer >>> >>> Done, Bailing out .... >>> Saving Model Command File to Model_0.in .... done. >> It seems to be an X error - the GL extension (GLX) is not >> loaded. If you're running X with xorg.conf, make sure >> >> Section "Module" >> [...] >> Load "glx" >> [...] >> EndSection > > Check. > >> >> is being defined. For OpenGL, other things like direct >> rendering (DRI, DRM) might be needed. You can always >> check this with tools like glxinfo, xdriinfo, glxgears, >> or other programs that make use of OpenGL (for example, >> "xlock -mode fire" or "xlock -mode lament"). >> >> The top of "glxinfo" output should look like this: >> >> name of display: :0.0 >> display: :0 screen: 0 >> direct rendering: Yes >> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >> server glx version string: 1.4 >> server glx extensions: >> [...] >> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >> client glx version string: 1.4 >> client glx extensions: >> [...] >> GLX version: 1.4 > > Hmmmm: > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:18am] 767 % glxinfo > glxinfo: Command not found. > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:19am] 768 % uname -a > FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat > Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % > >> >> Of course your graphics hardware should be reflected accordingly. :-) >> >> For this to work, I had to put >> >> drm_load="YES" >> nvidia_load="YES" > > Hmmmm .... OK, just did that. Do have them installed: > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % grep -i drm LIST.installed.txt > drm-kmod-9.280208 FreeBSD 9.3 Kernel DRM driver > libdrm-2.4.60,1 Userspace interface to kernel Direct > Rendering Module services > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:09am] 770 % grep -i nvidia LIST.installed.txt > nvidia-driver-340-340.93 NVidia graphics card binary drivers for > hardware OpenGL rendering > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:16am] 771 % > > I just 'kldload'-ed drm & nvidia, I'll try again momentarily .... > >> >> in /boot/loader.conf - in your case, something similar will probably >> be needed. ALso make sure to install relevant libraries as needed >> (libGL, libGLU, libdrm, Mesa, ...). > > Check. > >> >> >> >>> Am I hosed until 3D OpenGL works for AMD jaguars ? If so, how is >>> progress on that front ? These are fairly common APUs, widely used in >>> laptops, some low-end desktops & some tablets, it would be sweet to get >>> this going :-) .... >> As far as I know, this special kind of "graphics card" isn't that >> easy to use. It starts with the proper driver. Which one are you >> currently using? > > Uuuuuuuuuhhhh .... Not sure. VESA, I think, how do I check ? > > It is indeed VESA. I just kldload-ed drm & nvidia & still nogo, same error .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 17:25:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4099AA14BF5 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0652C1953 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7nvG-0002Iq-PQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:25:30 +0100 Received: from pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([72.66.1.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:25:30 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:25:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:24:47 -0500 Lines: 136 Message-ID: References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:25:42 -0000 William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 12/12/15 11:01, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 12/12/15 10:41, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:36:23 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>> I have an inhouse OpenGL code named PreBFCGL.TEST which I am trying to >>>> run. I get the following when I tried about 5 min. ago: >>>> >>>> >>>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:21am] 936 % PreBFCGL.TEST >>>> Segmentation fault (core dumped) >>>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:38am] 937 % cat BFC.LOG >>>> [...] >>>> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >>>> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >>>> Error: No RGB visual with depth buffer >>>> >>>> Done, Bailing out .... >>>> Saving Model Command File to Model_0.in .... done. >>> It seems to be an X error - the GL extension (GLX) is not >>> loaded. If you're running X with xorg.conf, make sure >>> >>> Section "Module" >>> [...] >>> Load "glx" >>> [...] >>> EndSection >> >> Check. >> >>> >>> is being defined. For OpenGL, other things like direct >>> rendering (DRI, DRM) might be needed. You can always >>> check this with tools like glxinfo, xdriinfo, glxgears, >>> or other programs that make use of OpenGL (for example, >>> "xlock -mode fire" or "xlock -mode lament"). >>> >>> The top of "glxinfo" output should look like this: >>> >>> name of display: :0.0 >>> display: :0 screen: 0 >>> direct rendering: Yes >>> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >>> server glx version string: 1.4 >>> server glx extensions: >>> [...] >>> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >>> client glx version string: 1.4 >>> client glx extensions: >>> [...] >>> GLX version: 1.4 >> >> Hmmmm: >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:18am] 767 % glxinfo >> glxinfo: Command not found. >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:19am] 768 % uname -a >> FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat >> Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 >> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % >> >>> >>> Of course your graphics hardware should be reflected accordingly. :-) >>> >>> For this to work, I had to put >>> >>> drm_load="YES" >>> nvidia_load="YES" >> >> Hmmmm .... OK, just did that. Do have them installed: >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % grep -i drm LIST.installed.txt >> drm-kmod-9.280208 FreeBSD 9.3 Kernel DRM driver >> libdrm-2.4.60,1 Userspace interface to kernel Direct >> Rendering Module services >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:09am] 770 % grep -i nvidia LIST.installed.txt >> nvidia-driver-340-340.93 NVidia graphics card binary drivers for >> hardware OpenGL rendering >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:16am] 771 % >> >> I just 'kldload'-ed drm & nvidia, I'll try again momentarily .... >> >>> >>> in /boot/loader.conf - in your case, something similar will probably >>> be needed. ALso make sure to install relevant libraries as needed >>> (libGL, libGLU, libdrm, Mesa, ...). >> >> Check. >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Am I hosed until 3D OpenGL works for AMD jaguars ? If so, how is >>>> progress on that front ? These are fairly common APUs, widely used in >>>> laptops, some low-end desktops & some tablets, it would be sweet to get >>>> this going :-) .... >>> As far as I know, this special kind of "graphics card" isn't that >>> easy to use. It starts with the proper driver. Which one are you >>> currently using? >> >> Uuuuuuuuuhhhh .... Not sure. VESA, I think, how do I check ? >> >> > > It is indeed VESA. I just kldload-ed drm & nvidia & still nogo, same > error .... > It has been way too many years since I've used ARI/AMD video. I'm going to assume here that you are trying to utilize the on-chip AMD/ATI, and not a second discreet card. These may be of interest: https://wiki.freebsd.org/AMD_GPU https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics On the Graphics page in the section "Video driver loaded at boot time" is example of the kernel modules to load. When you look in /boot/kernel you will see a radeon.ko and a radeonkms.ko followed by a bunch of other firmwares which are needed by various models. Many seem to have the model name embedded in them and I don't see a particular one with 'Jaguar' in it (this is a 10.1 machine I'm looking at here). I believe that even with these modules loaded you will still need to install the appropriate driver for Xorg under ports/x11-drivers (which still may not support Jaguar yet). It's also a possibility that the xorg driver may support, but the kernel modules and firmwares haven't caught up yet. What I don't have any clue is the exact support for the specific chip you are trying to use; it may not exist yet or may be a WIP. Maybe there is some bleeding edge patch or code around somewhere you can try if nothing currently in Release is working. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 17:29:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37FCA14E68; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 829771A56; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBCHTA3Q022658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:29:11 -0600 Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:34:40 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:29:12 -0000 On 12/12/15 11:08, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 12/12/15 11:01, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 12/12/15 10:41, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:36:23 -0553.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>> I have an inhouse OpenGL code named PreBFCGL.TEST which I am trying to >>>> run. I get the following when I tried about 5 min. ago: >>>> >>>> >>>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:21am] 936 % PreBFCGL.TEST >>>> Segmentation fault (core dumped) >>>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:30:38am] 937 % cat BFC.LOG >>>> [...] >>>> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >>>> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >>>> Error: No RGB visual with depth buffer >>>> >>>> Done, Bailing out .... >>>> Saving Model Command File to Model_0.in .... done. >>> It seems to be an X error - the GL extension (GLX) is not >>> loaded. If you're running X with xorg.conf, make sure >>> >>> Section "Module" >>> [...] >>> Load "glx" >>> [...] >>> EndSection >> >> Check. >> >>> >>> is being defined. For OpenGL, other things like direct >>> rendering (DRI, DRM) might be needed. You can always >>> check this with tools like glxinfo, xdriinfo, glxgears, >>> or other programs that make use of OpenGL (for example, >>> "xlock -mode fire" or "xlock -mode lament"). >>> >>> The top of "glxinfo" output should look like this: >>> >>> name of display: :0.0 >>> display: :0 screen: 0 >>> direct rendering: Yes >>> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >>> server glx version string: 1.4 >>> server glx extensions: >>> [...] >>> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >>> client glx version string: 1.4 >>> client glx extensions: >>> [...] >>> GLX version: 1.4 >> >> Hmmmm: >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:18am] 767 % glxinfo >> glxinfo: Command not found. >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:19am] 768 % uname -a >> FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p24 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p24 #0: Sat >> Aug 22 01:54:44 UTC 2015 >> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % >> >>> >>> Of course your graphics hardware should be reflected accordingly. :-) >>> >>> For this to work, I had to put >>> >>> drm_load="YES" >>> nvidia_load="YES" >> >> Hmmmm .... OK, just did that. Do have them installed: >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:56:29am] 769 % grep -i drm LIST.installed.txt >> drm-kmod-9.280208 FreeBSD 9.3 Kernel DRM driver >> libdrm-2.4.60,1 Userspace interface to kernel Direct >> Rendering Module services >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:09am] 770 % grep -i nvidia LIST.installed.txt >> nvidia-driver-340-340.93 NVidia graphics card binary drivers >> for hardware OpenGL rendering >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:57:16am] 771 % >> >> I just 'kldload'-ed drm & nvidia, I'll try again momentarily .... >> >>> >>> in /boot/loader.conf - in your case, something similar will probably >>> be needed. ALso make sure to install relevant libraries as needed >>> (libGL, libGLU, libdrm, Mesa, ...). >> >> Check. >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Am I hosed until 3D OpenGL works for AMD jaguars ? If so, how is >>>> progress on that front ? These are fairly common APUs, widely used in >>>> laptops, some low-end desktops & some tablets, it would be sweet to >>>> get >>>> this going :-) .... >>> As far as I know, this special kind of "graphics card" isn't that >>> easy to use. It starts with the proper driver. Which one are you >>> currently using? >> >> Uuuuuuuuuhhhh .... Not sure. VESA, I think, how do I check ? >> >> > > It is indeed VESA. I just kldload-ed drm & nvidia & still nogo, same > error .... > Slight update. I found where glxinfo comes from & 'pkg installed' it, now I have: [root@kabini1, /etc, 11:32:25am] 793 % glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". [root@kabini1, /etc, 11:32:29am] 794 % kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 128 0xffffffff80200000 1611688 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff81812000 a890 geom_stripe.ko 3 3 0xffffffff8181d000 c19b8 linux.ko 4 1 0xffffffff818df000 43a8 snd_driver.ko 5 2 0xffffffff818e4000 8180 snd_ad1816.ko 6 2 0xffffffff818ed000 8a00 snd_als4000.ko 7 2 0xffffffff818f6000 a718 snd_atiixp.ko 8 2 0xffffffff81901000 87d0 snd_cs4281.ko 9 2 0xffffffff8190a000 ffa0 snd_ds1.ko 10 2 0xffffffff8191a000 dc20 snd_envy24.ko 11 4 0xffffffff81928000 2718 snd_spicds.ko 12 2 0xffffffff8192b000 cfc0 snd_envy24ht.ko 13 2 0xffffffff81938000 95b8 snd_ess.ko 14 5 0xffffffff81942000 5e78 snd_sbc.ko 15 2 0xffffffff81948000 7700 snd_fm801.ko 16 3 0xffffffff81950000 13bd8 snd_mss.ko 17 2 0xffffffff81964000 d858 snd_maestro.ko 18 2 0xffffffff81972000 f0d0 snd_maestro3.ko 19 2 0xffffffff81982000 14340 snd_neomagic.ko 20 2 0xffffffff81997000 8378 snd_sb16.ko 21 2 0xffffffff819a0000 7cf0 snd_sb8.ko 22 2 0xffffffff819a8000 8f88 snd_solo.ko 23 2 0xffffffff819b1000 8a88 snd_t4dwave.ko 24 2 0xffffffff819ba000 7d88 snd_via82c686.ko 25 2 0xffffffff819c2000 8d70 snd_vibes.ko 26 1 0xffffffff819cb000 3cb8 amdtemp.ko 27 3 0xffffffff819cf000 73958 vboxdrv.ko 28 1 0xffffffff81a43000 12470 tmpfs.ko 29 1 0xffffffff81c12000 9fd4 linprocfs.ko 30 1 0xffffffff81c1c000 52f2 fdescfs.ko 31 1 0xffffffff81c22000 28c9f vboxguest.ko 32 2 0xffffffff81c4b000 29f1 vboxnetflt.ko 33 2 0xffffffff81c4e000 b258 netgraph.ko 34 1 0xffffffff81c5a000 4449 ng_ether.ko 35 1 0xffffffff81c5f000 3f8a vboxnetadp.ko 36 1 0xffffffff81c63000 121fa ipfw.ko 39 1 0xffffffff81c76000 2c8e geom_nop.ko 40 1 0xffffffff81c79000 17677 drm.ko 41 1 0xffffffff81c91000 963a67 nvidia.ko [root@kabini1, /etc, 11:32:46am] 795 % i.e. no displays are GLX enabled .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 17:42:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3599D8865 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C87412FF for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBCHfxDw029941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:42:00 -0600 Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <566C5C67.9070704@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:47:29 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:42:01 -0000 On 12/12/15 11:31, Michael Powell wrote: >> >It is indeed VESA. I just kldload-ed drm & nvidia & still nogo, same >> >error .... >> > > It has been way too many years since I've used ARI/AMD video. I'm going to > assume here that you are trying to utilize the on-chip AMD/ATI, and not a > second discreet card. These may be of interest: > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/AMD_GPU > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > > On the Graphics page in the section "Video driver loaded at boot time" is > example of the kernel modules to load. When you look in /boot/kernel you > will see a radeon.ko and a radeonkms.ko followed by a bunch of other > firmwares which are needed by various models. Many seem to have the model > name embedded in them and I don't see a particular one with 'Jaguar' in it > (this is a 10.1 machine I'm looking at here). I believe that even with these > modules loaded you will still need to install the appropriate driver for > Xorg under ports/x11-drivers (which still may not support Jaguar yet). It's > also a possibility that the xorg driver may support, but the kernel modules > and firmwares haven't caught up yet. > > What I don't have any clue is the exact support for the specific chip you are > trying to use; it may not exist yet or may be a WIP. Maybe there is some > bleeding edge patch or code around somewhere you can try if nothing > currently in Release is working. > > -Mike I just looked at both links & the 2nd one appears to say my video is not supported. It didn't mention my exact hardware, but said: AMD Radeon HD 8000 Sea Islands Not supported My xorg.conf shows: Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] #Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "vesa" VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]" BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" BusID "PCI:0:1:0" EndSection So I guess I am hosed. However .... I thought the VESA driver would at least provide basic (albeit brutally slow/choppy/etc) functionality, wrong there as well ? Thanks & TIA & have a good one :-). -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 17:55:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE4FA14335 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5DE31BB1 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7oOd-0003fd-S8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:55:51 +0100 Received: from pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([72.66.1.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:55:51 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:55:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:54:59 -0500 Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5C67.9070704@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:55:54 -0000 William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [snip] >> What I don't have any clue is the exact support for the specific chip you >> are trying to use; it may not exist yet or may be a WIP. Maybe there is >> some bleeding edge patch or code around somewhere you can try if nothing >> currently in Release is working. >> >> -Mike > > I just looked at both links & the 2nd one appears to say my video is not > supported. It didn't mention my exact hardware, but said: > > > AMD > > Radeon HD 8000 > > Sea Islands > > Not supported > > My xorg.conf shows: > > > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "ShadowFB" # [] > #Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] > #Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "vesa" > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]" > BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" > BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > EndSection > > > So I guess I am hosed. However .... I thought the VESA driver would at > least provide basic (albeit brutally slow/choppy/etc) functionality, > wrong there as well ? Thanks & TIA & have a good one :-). > VESA should show you a screen, which should be perhaps useable for text-mode CLI and maybe some basic graphics (slow, very slow, as in repaint entire screen line by line for any update). I have an old laptop with an ancient radeon chip which is so old support has actually been removed so that VESA is the only way I can use it. It does work with GUI desktops, just slowly. VESA mode(s) will never give you any support for GL and there won't be any way (to my limited knowledge) to run code that depends on GL libraries. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 18:05:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F987A14A3B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13F6E1027 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBCI5rCw010004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:05:54 -0600 Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5C67.9070704@hiwaay.net> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <566C6201.4070208@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:11:23 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:05:56 -0000 On 12/12/15 12:01, Michael Powell wrote: >> >So I guess I am hosed. However .... I thought the VESA driver would at >> >least provide basic (albeit brutally slow/choppy/etc) functionality, >> >wrong there as well ? Thanks & TIA & have a good one:-). >> > > VESA should show you a screen, which should be perhaps useable for text-mode > CLI and maybe some basic graphics (slow, very slow, as in repaint entire > screen line by line for any update). I have an old laptop with an ancient > radeon chip which is so old support has actually been removed so that VESA > is the only way I can use it. It does work with GUI desktops, just slowly. > > VESA mode(s) will never give you any support for GL and there won't be any > way (to my limited knowledge) to run code that depends on GL libraries. > > -Mike *Rats* !!!! I had an old Linux box where VESA did provide (gruesomely slow) OpenGL software rendering, but that was eons ago. All of my desktop (XFCE 4.12) works AOK, ditto for browser, etc., although many of the screensavers crash w/ messages about .... GLX extension not enabled :-/ .... Oh well .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 18:12:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3127DA140D5 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4998196F for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id l68so54229436wml.0 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:12:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=a7f29HEn27gqSofth5yzSVbQiWT4g9n0Re+/Vrp7d0s=; b=LpVARWabN/rsiWvC2jTFt8GK4Po/bZ0xO0Fh+sj+d5JGhfi9uRPj1aqHTMDVZ+ckk7 hEvOg0zuCHztJ5vwhEQARDwU/17g5AHdjE3jvRX5S+JhOR8tYdmXH3jPQpDNMEoats0W cjkB7NtJ0dSdBVRNBMhTbvhxOnFz5MzHy46LAGO2MYzhVVDx6zjH1Y5Wb3BvlJyaCMVO 3xY6gZy1JyPuiMF9ZvEQcGk04c4yWkNlEGM2t20ZCfOIGbi6SV8cvnNMLCA5zzIRc8k/ XJY3TQP0LKsz/+ABixSFgbPtXaykBqCWvbhEnTBB1uATRaxNzR5ym1F266Qjjdsm4YV/ HRcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.57.178 with SMTP id j18mr32126634wjq.113.1449943929121; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.152.162 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.152.162 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:12:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <05930DAC-9997-48F3-8A36-C23616058423@elde.net> References: <566C1177.7010900@my.hennepintech.edu> <05930DAC-9997-48F3-8A36-C23616058423@elde.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:12:08 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgrade from 8.4 to 10.2 From: Peter Harrison To: Terje Elde Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:12:11 -0000 Thanks both. Should I go straight to 9.3 or to 9 then 9.3? Peter. Peter Harrison On 12 Dec 2015 12:33 p.m., "Terje Elde" wrote: > > > On 12 Dec 2015, at 13:22, Andrew Berg > wrote: > > > > It would be best to go to 9.3 first, and it's a good idea to have console > > access just in case something goes wrong or you make a mistake somewhere. > > This. > > But also, if at all possible, I highly recommend testing the upgrade > first. Perhaps restore a backup to another system, and upgrade that for > example. > > FreeBSD is in my experience quite stable and offers relatively little > trouble, but better safe than sorry. > > Terje > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 18:39:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2B5A3B63A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B366C14E1 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7p59-0004FV-G2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:39:47 +0100 Received: from pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([72.66.1.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:39:47 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:39:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:39:04 -0500 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5C67.9070704@hiwaay.net> <566C6201.4070208@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:39:51 -0000 William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [snip] >> >> VESA mode(s) will never give you any support for GL and there won't be >> any way (to my limited knowledge) to run code that depends on GL >> libraries. > > > *Rats* !!!! I had an old Linux box where VESA did provide (gruesomely > slow) OpenGL software rendering, but that was eons ago. All of my > desktop (XFCE 4.12) works AOK, ditto for browser, etc., although many of > the screensavers crash w/ messages about .... GLX extension not enabled > :-/ .... Oh well .... > I've never been completely certain of this, and hopefully someone who does know can chime in (stuff I'd like to know more about as well), but I have been under the impression it is the MESA stack which is tapped to do software rendering via CPU as a fallback for when 3D hardware acceleration is unavailable. Of course, software(s) need to be built with the facility to utilize these code pathways... But back to the original problem of code testing. If that is the primary problem one suggestion may be to disable (in BIOS) the Kabini GPU and scrounge up some other older AMD/ATI card from the 'supported' section list on the ~/Graphics FreeBSD wiki page. Return to the work at hand and consider dealing with the Jaguar situation as support evolves. -MIke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 19:19:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEBFA3B4BF for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 878C1195F for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.11.109] (cm-84.210.87.28.getinternet.no [84.210.87.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E3284C6F; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Upgrade from 8.4 to 10.2 From: Terje Elde X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:18:57 +0100 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <60D232B4-43A0-47CE-BFF3-C7808B2B757A@elde.net> References: <566C1177.7010900@my.hennepintech.edu> <05930DAC-9997-48F3-8A36-C23616058423@elde.net> To: Peter Harrison X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:19:04 -0000 > On 12 Dec 2015, at 19:12, Peter Harrison w= rote: >=20 > Thanks both. Should I go straight to 9.3 or to 9 then 9.3? General rule of thumb, not just FreeBSD, but applies here as well; Go one major at a time, but to the highest version in that major, so 9.3.=20= There could be bugs in 9.0 that's been resolved in 9.3 for example, and 9.3 t= o 10-series has probably seen more testing than 9.0 to 10-series.=20 In other words, 9.3 offers a bit reduced risk when upgrading both to and fro= m it.=20 Might not be a problem to go straight to 10, and if you test first, that's a= viable path.=20 Oh, and it can't hurt to skim through /usr/src/UPDATING of the versions you'= re upgrading to. If there's anything required to be done manually, it'll alm= ost certainly be listed there (sorry if anyone already mentioned).=20 You can find the right version of the file easily online.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 19:31:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6908EA140C2; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arcade@b1t.name) Received: from limbo.b1t.name (limbo.b1t.name [78.25.32.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250BD1FD4; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arcade@b1t.name) Received: from limbo.b1t.name (limbo.b1t.name [78.25.32.206]) by limbo.b1t.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30F686F; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:31:01 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Message-ID: <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:30:59 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:31:13 -0000 On 12.12.2015 19:27, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > 41 1 0xffffffff81c91000 963a67 nvidia.ko Can you try disabling this kernel module and deinstalling nvidia-driver package? It does THINGS to make rendering work like substituting original GL libraries with nVidia ones. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 21:42:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820D2A141ED; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 515871DF0; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-213-32.knology.net [216.186.213.32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id tBCLfwUQ019011 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Dec 2015 15:41:59 -0600 Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code To: Volodymyr Kostyrko References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <566C94A6.1090703@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 15:47:28 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:42:49 -0000 On 12/12/15 13:37, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > On 12.12.2015 19:27, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> 41 1 0xffffffff81c91000 963a67 nvidia.ko > > Can you try disabling this kernel module and deinstalling > nvidia-driver package? It does THINGS to make rendering work like > substituting original GL libraries with nVidia ones. > Very well, done, & slightly different behavior: [wam@kabini1, ~, 3:44:08pm] 959 % PreBFCGL.TEST Segmentation fault (core dumped) [wam@kabini1, ~, 3:44:14pm] 960 % cat BFC.LOG PreBFCGL.TEST: begin WAM III pre-processor execution on host kabini1.local .... PreBFCGL.TEST: compiled on Dec 12 2015 @ 06:04:00. PreBFCGL.TEST: commence execution on Sat Dec 12 15:44:13 2015. PreBFCGL.TEST: sizeof(short) 2, sizeof(int) 4, sizeof(long) 8, sizeof(clock_t) 4, sizeof(time_t) 8. PreBFCGL.TEST: sizeof(float) 4, sizeof(real) 4, sizeof(double) 8, sizeof(void *) 8, ticks 128. Couldn't find configuration file './.BFCrc', couldn't find '/home/wam/.BFCrc', giving up. Alpha: changing Verbosity from Silent to Normal. Gen2D: setting up for chatty 2 (Normal) .... done. Gen3D: setting up for chatty 2 (Normal) .... done. Main: Updating Verbosity from 0 (Silent) to 2 (Normal) .... SetReadVerbosity: Updating Verbosity from 0 (Silent) to 2 (Normal) .... Changing Expertise from Novice to Standard. SetExprLoud: setting chatty from 0 to 2 .... Interactive mode execution, individual case(s), Debug 0, DbgMem 0, Standard expertise, Normal verbosity. DebugVarbls: var'bl verbosity reset from 0 to 2 .... DebugVarbls: var'bl verbosity reset from 2 to 3 .... DISPLAY ->:0.0<- (Local) Machine epsilons: raw 4 bits float 5.96046E-08 9.53674E-07 double 1.11022E-16 1.77636E-15 InitGraphics: begin .... Error: No RGB visual with depth buffer Done, Bailing out .... Saving Model Command File to Model_0.in .... done. [wam@kabini1, ~, 3:44:16pm] 961 % This was with the radeon module loaded: [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:47pm] 831 % kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 145 0xffffffff80200000 1611688 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff81812000 a890 geom_stripe.ko 3 2 0xffffffff8181d000 c19b8 linux.ko 4 1 0xffffffff818df000 43a8 snd_driver.ko 5 2 0xffffffff818e4000 8180 snd_ad1816.ko 6 2 0xffffffff818ed000 8a00 snd_als4000.ko 7 2 0xffffffff818f6000 a718 snd_atiixp.ko 8 2 0xffffffff81901000 87d0 snd_cs4281.ko 9 2 0xffffffff8190a000 ffa0 snd_ds1.ko 10 2 0xffffffff8191a000 dc20 snd_envy24.ko 11 4 0xffffffff81928000 2718 snd_spicds.ko 12 2 0xffffffff8192b000 cfc0 snd_envy24ht.ko 13 2 0xffffffff81938000 95b8 snd_ess.ko 14 5 0xffffffff81942000 5e78 snd_sbc.ko 15 2 0xffffffff81948000 7700 snd_fm801.ko 16 3 0xffffffff81950000 13bd8 snd_mss.ko 17 2 0xffffffff81964000 d858 snd_maestro.ko 18 2 0xffffffff81972000 f0d0 snd_maestro3.ko 19 2 0xffffffff81982000 14340 snd_neomagic.ko 20 2 0xffffffff81997000 8378 snd_sb16.ko 21 2 0xffffffff819a0000 7cf0 snd_sb8.ko 22 2 0xffffffff819a8000 8f88 snd_solo.ko 23 2 0xffffffff819b1000 8a88 snd_t4dwave.ko 24 2 0xffffffff819ba000 7d88 snd_via82c686.ko 25 2 0xffffffff819c2000 8d70 snd_vibes.ko 26 1 0xffffffff819cb000 3cb8 amdtemp.ko 27 3 0xffffffff819cf000 73958 vboxdrv.ko 28 1 0xffffffff81a43000 12470 tmpfs.ko 29 1 0xffffffff81c12000 9fd4 linprocfs.ko 30 1 0xffffffff81c1c000 52f2 fdescfs.ko 31 1 0xffffffff81c22000 28c9f vboxguest.ko 32 2 0xffffffff81c4b000 29f1 vboxnetflt.ko 33 2 0xffffffff81c4e000 b258 netgraph.ko 34 1 0xffffffff81c5a000 4449 ng_ether.ko 35 1 0xffffffff81c5f000 3f8a vboxnetadp.ko 36 1 0xffffffff81c63000 121fa ipfw.ko 39 1 0xffffffff81c76000 2c8e geom_nop.ko 40 1 0xffffffff81c79000 17677 drm.ko 41 1 0xffffffff81c91000 1194c9 radeonkms.ko 42 1 0xffffffff81dab000 1b23 iicbb.ko 43 4 0xffffffff81dad000 1d47 iicbus.ko 44 1 0xffffffff81daf000 1cbf iic.ko 45 1 0xffffffff81db1000 46f31 drm2.ko [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:53pm] 832 % xorg.conf was/is still using the VESA driver, do I need any changes there as well ? [wam@kabini1, ~, 3:44:16pm] 961 % cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "DontZap" "off" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "dri2" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "glx" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "vboxmouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] #Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "vesa" VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]" BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" BusID "PCI:0:1:0" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional Identifier "Card0" Driver "vboxvideo" VendorName "InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH" BoardName "VirtualBox Graphics Adapter" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection [wam@kabini1, ~, 3:44:27pm] 962 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 22:39:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E519BA14CD4; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arcade@b1t.name) Received: from limbo.b1t.name (limbo.b1t.name [78.25.32.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABC01AB6; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arcade@b1t.name) Received: from limbo.b1t.name (limbo.b1t.name [78.25.32.206]) by limbo.b1t.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79CCB72; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:39:11 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: problems running OpenGL code To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd questions list References: <566C3DAD.8090809@hiwaay.net> <20151212173509.fba928df.freebsd@edvax.de> <566C51CB.8040604@hiwaay.net> <566C536F.8080507@hiwaay.net> <566C5966.8020403@hiwaay.net> <566C75F3.1090801@b1t.name> <566C94A6.1090703@hiwaay.net> From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Message-ID: <566CA20C.4050307@b1t.name> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:39:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566C94A6.1090703@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:39:16 -0000 On 12.12.2015 23:40, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > xorg.conf was/is still using the VESA driver, do I need any changes > there as well ? yep > Section "Files" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > EndSection This one is not needed mostly, you are specifying defaults. > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "dri" > Load "dri2" > Load "extmod" > Load "record" > Load "glx" > EndSection Same here, server will try to load them anyway. > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "vboxmouse" > EndSection You have two definitions for mouse, make `Identifier` different or... actually I don't know which one would be selected. > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "ShadowFB" # [] > #Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] > #Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "vesa" > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]" > BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" > BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "vboxvideo" > VendorName "InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH" > BoardName "VirtualBox Graphics Adapter" > BusID "PCI:0:2:0" > EndSection Same here, you are defining one `Identifier` twice. And yes, here you need to specify your driver. Mine looks like: Section "Device" Identifier "Integrated" Driver "ati" EndSection My config also has this: Section "ServerFlags" Option "AIGLX" "True" Option "BlankTime" "0" Option "StandByTime" "0" Option "SuspendTime" "0" Option "OffTime" "10" Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" Option "Log" "Sync" Option "DRI2" "On" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "On" Option "RENDER" "on" Option "DAMAGE" "on" EndSection I'm not saying you need to put all of that in your config, I haven't tested whether all of that is still needed today. You know, time passes by and you have no time to fix those thing since everything is still working fine. For example I think whole `Extensions` section became useless... PS: Thanks man, made me review my own config so I'll go testing now. :) -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 22:40:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC095A14E7A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793FC1C15 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hpmini (unknown [187.65.219.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EF65290099B; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:40:39 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1449960042; bh=B/ajRQlJgJidzEc/ValExW5d9RiAHgL2hEpRXoOIAnw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=IDvBs6pSfVR5ip1YTPaaSExPRWHd4Ilm2c7G7QIQdxu04ZBKdyU3VfJPkJIemu+dj wQtQ39VcqHOn/ruiaqgukP/CVyKf9I9hMZM759RPx5FEyTCn56L/FDFYyn64TUBofj 6NUrW7hhPwNV68PiG8pucYtCyrrY03In52EHXcV8= Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:42:26 -0200 From: =?utf-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cleaning obsolete files after make installworld Message-ID: <20151212224226.GA4884@hpmini> References: <20151205201107.GA19335@hpmini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:40:44 -0000 Hi, Actually, I do not think what you said is quite right. The ObsoleteFiles.inc file seems to include only files that have been made obsolete because of a package upgrade. My problem is different. Suppose you just installed FreeBSD. Now you decide you do not want stack smashing protection or the sendmail program in the system, so you put WITHOUT_SENDMAIL = WITHOUT_SSP = in /etc/src.conf. When you recompile the system and issue `make installworld`, you expect the sendmail executable and the file /usr/lib/libssp_nonshared.a to be gone, but they do in fact remain in the system causing several problems. What I wish to know is what is the standard procedure for removing those files. It not wise to leave old files lingering in the system. Thanks, Luís Fernando On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 10:40:51PM +0200, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > Standard procedure is filing a PR, because it's a BUG. Someone adds > WITHOUT_XXX option and forgets to update ObsoleteFiles.inc. > > 2015-12-05 22:11 GMT+02:00 Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira > : > > Hi, > > > > I have edited /etc/src.conf to remove software which is not useful > > to me. After compiling and installing the world, I have launched the > > check-old, delete-old and delete-old-libs targets of /usr/src/Makefile. > > > > However, several old files still remain in the system. For example, > > I have included WITHOUT_INETD in /etc/src.conf, but after peforming the > > above procedure, the file /usr/sbin/inetd was still there, with a > > modification time that predates the installation of the system. > > > > What is the standard procedure for removing these stale files? > > I have used the -mtime option of find to locate and remove them, but > > I doubt this is the recommended approach. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 23:11:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68553A1476A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FD0C1B94 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7tJZ-0002xx-Mj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:10:57 +0100 Received: from pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([72.66.1.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:10:57 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:10:57 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Cleaning obsolete files after make installworld Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:10:13 -0500 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <20151205201107.GA19335@hpmini> <20151205204943.GA19890@hpmini> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:11:02 -0000 Luís Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira wrote: Please not to top post. > Well, the problem is there were hundreds upon hundreds of such files > from several switches in src.conf. I do not think that many developers > would forget that many obsolete files. The more likely possibility is > that I have made a mistake somewhere. > Check out the /usr/src/Makefile, particularly the # check-old and the # delete-old sections. I've never found a need to use these, so I really am uncertain how they would be used. But it seems as if they might come into play after a make buildworld but prior to a make installworld. I could be very wrong about that. But if you can track down how to actually use these targets I think it may remedy the problem. As far as how the problem came to exist I wouldn't know - but a small mistake somewhere in the process does indeed sound plausible. -Mike