From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 9 3:30:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E1815BFF for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:30:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06111; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 04:30:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990909040714.04743890@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:30:07 -0600 To: "David Schwartz" , "Bill Swingle" From: Brett Glass Subject: RE: Market share and platform support Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , In-Reply-To: <000001befaaa$e6b4b760$021d85d1@youwant.to> References: <4.2.0.58.19990909032923.045a1da0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:05 AM 9/9/99 -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > Well, so long as they've released all his previous work under the BSD >license, they can only keep for themself future work. In other words, they >can stop contributing at any time. *yawn* True. Or they can stop allowing contributions made by, say, Jordan and Bill to be used by the publishers of other distributions. Of more serious concern is the fact that files which Walnut Creek employees contribute say something like (C) 19xx Jordan K. Hubbard etc. at the top. Walnut Creek could say that the "contribution" made by this license is invalid because Jordan never owned the copyright on the code to begin with and therefore had no legal right to put his name at the top. > Yes, the FreeBSD team could stop developing new versions of FreeBSD at any >time. Linus Torvalds could die tomorrow, and perhaps there would be nobody >around to continue his work. Who knows? There would be people to take over for Torvalds. As for the FreeBSD team: I have no idea how much knowledge is held by only one person, or how many unpublished tools, if any, are used to build distributions. HOPEFULLY it would be possible to continue development. > The temporal continuity of both Linux's and FreeBSD's development is >predicated upon numerous conditions that we can't predict. One should not >assume that anything will continue to tomorrow. > > But I really don't see what you think WC can do to hurt FreeBSD. Whatever >they did, what would stop all those people who felt it was bad from >continuing the development of FreeBSD in some other direction on their own? >In other words, what more could they do than stop helping? Let's suppose, just for the sake of argument, that some key files in the FreeBSD distributions -- just a few -- began to require a license from Walnut Creek if they were included on a disk that was sold for money. Suddenly, Cheap Bytes couldn't make FreeBSD CD-ROMs without doing clean room reverse engineering of those files or obtaining a license from Walnut Creek, which it might not grant. Ditto anyone else who wanted to sell copies of FreeBSD. Walnut Creek could pick and choose who got to do a distribution easily. I'd hope that Jordan and others would rebel against such a thing. But what if they decided that some publisher was evangelizing in a way they didn't like? They might chose to ace out just that one -- "spiking the gun," so to speak. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message