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Date:      Sat, 19 Apr 1997 21:26:46 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        jack <jack@diamond.xtalwind.net>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Price of FreeBSD (was On Holy Wars...) 
Message-ID:  <14308.861510406@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:05:41 EDT." <Pine.BSF.3.96.970419222358.14969A-100000@zeus.xtalwind.net> 

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> NOTHING will put a bad taste in a users mouth any worse than an install
> that fails, or drags on like a crusade.  Next time you feel like wasting a

I hadn't intended on doing an install which did either of those
things, so I have to wonder why you even bring it up. :-)

> But if it is not completely bullet proof it won't help the people that
> *do* need it.  When the folks that have 8 megabyte hard drives,
> 1.something gigabytes of memory, and who's modem speed is 133 Pentium get

8 megabyte hard drives and 1 gigabyte of memory - you see the industry
going in slightly different directions than I do, I can say that
much. :-) Seriously, of course the software has to work in order to
reach its intended audience but like, well, duh!  I'd have thought
that was kind of obvious.  Again, you seem to have this obsession with
the dangers of badly written, dysfunctional code.  Is there something
you'd like to get off your chest?  A guilty conscience from some past
sin committed, perhaps? :-)

> "OK, press the button FARTHEST away from your body one time."
> "Nothing happened"
> "Do you still have the pointer on the picture?"
> "Ah, no."

You write a very scary UI, that's all I can say, my friend. :-)

> I'm not that paranoid of BillyBob, I just hate the thought of using NT's
> install as a role model.  I've been through about 4 release, ??

It's NOT - where did you get that idea?  I merely said that their
implementation of GUIs to *handle these problems* was the key
advantage.  It's the idea that counts, not the implementation.  The
first n implementations of *anyone*'s installation & admin tools
generally suck, as things go, but if the authors have the right ideas
and are willing to stick with it, something pretty good can be
evolved.  Windows has done a good job of creating a lot of
well-documented APIs and installation helpers, their implementation
just needs to advance another couple of generations more. :)

					Jordan



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