From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Feb 28 7:32:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50C01524D for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:32:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA03701; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:32:09 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id QAA06280; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:32:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:32:07 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Gary Jennejohn Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with PAP authentication Message-ID: <19990228163207.L269@bitbox.follo.net> References: <30800.919896780@critter.freebsd.dk> <199902252104.WAA17677@peedub.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199902252104.WAA17677@peedub.muc.de>; from Gary Jennejohn on Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 10:04:55PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 10:04:55PM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > > > >The sppp implementation is seriously broken in many corners. I have > >been trying to architect something which would allow us to use the > >"userland ppp" as controller for both leased lines & ISDN PPP lines, > >without having to pull the packets out of the kernel and stick them > >back in again. > > > >So far it is only a rough draft. > > > >If anybody wants to lend a hand to this, please get in touch with me. > > > > Eivind Ecklund has been working on something like this for a looooong > time now. He'd be a good contact. Actually, only support for using userland PPP over i4b, not something that stop the packets from going in & out. I have working code; I'm just too embarrassed to publish it without cleaning it up, and I never seem to find time for it... Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Feb 28 8:11:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D79514F00 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:11:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rock@cs.uni-sb.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.3/1999020800) with ESMTP id RAA24347 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:10:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (maxtnt-010.rz.uni-sb.de [134.96.70.137]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.3/1999020800) with ESMTP id RAA25665 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:10:55 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.cs.uni-sb.de: Host maxtnt-010.rz.uni-sb.de [134.96.70.137] claimed to be cs.uni-sb.de Message-ID: <36D96ADC.DCF87A60@cs.uni-sb.de> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:12:12 +0100 From: "D. Rock" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HSCX wait for XFW timeout (was Re: error message in the logs - 00.70) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am now also seeing these messages sometimes, just after I swiched from an 1.7GB IDE drive to an 4GB IDE drive. Because of some problems with the new drive, I couldn't turn on DMA (which was enabled on the old drive). I never saw this messages with the old one, with the new drive the first message appeared after a few minutes. Daniel Hellmuth Michaelis schrieb: > > Wolfgang Helbig wrote: > > > > i4b-L1-isic_hscx_waitxfw: HSCX wait for XFW timeout! > > > > > > means, and i forgot to answer that one. This is an indication that an IRQ > > > from the HSCX (the chip handling the B-channel) got lost - most likely > > > > Hmm. This timeout occurs while waiting for the transmit buffer > > to accept another 32 bytes to transmit. I don't see how a lost interrupt > > can cause this timeout. (Even if you have IDE drives) > > My theory is, that while waiting, someone else blocks the interrupt for that > long time, that another HSCX transaction starts immediately (by chance out of > the blocked interrupt in which another HSCX interrupt occurs) which clears > implicitely the flag we are waiting for (perhaps i should introduce a > flag signalling that we are in such a wait status, and see what happenes > and who might clear it, but i'm too lazy to do that right now ....). > > When the system in question was changed from SCSI to IDE (nothing else did > change) those messages started to occur, with SCSI i never saw a single > such message. > > hellmuth > -- > Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe > We all live in a yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine ... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 1 1:32:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcsext.hcs.de (hcsext.hcs.de [194.123.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E6C91530A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (2137 bytes) by hcsext.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:32:12 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-11) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m10HP3c-0000ZmC; Mon, 1 Mar 99 10:32 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: isdn4bsd beta 0.71.00 available for download To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org (ISDN Mailinglist) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:32:11 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1439 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, a new isdn4bsd beta version (i4b-00.71.00-beta-010399.tgz) has been made available on the isdn4bsd ftp site. There has been a dramatic increase of the number of users of isdn4bsd since the last release: i received one postcard in addition to the four i received until the previous release ! Thanks a lot ! For information on what has changed since the last release, please have a look at the file ChangeLog in the isdn4bsd base directory. The changes in this release will be committed as soon as possible to the FreeBSD source tree. Note: due to the fact that i have no access to a FreeBSD 2.2.x machine anymore this release was not tested on that OS. With the next release, support for 2.2.x will be removed completely. How to access the ftp site: The ISDN4BSD package is available from: isdn4bsd@ftp.consol.de/pub -------------------------- you have to log in as user isdn4bsd -------- and give your mail address as the password. Then change to the "pub" directory. Anonymous ftp as user "ftp" or "anonymous" will NOT (!) give the desired result ! Have fun, hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm@hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 1 3: 4:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from harvey.aball.de (harvey.aball.de [194.77.82.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0ECA15331 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 03:04:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alice.turbocat.de!dave@harvey.aball.de) Received: by harvey.aball.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m10HRQs-000J1pC; Mon, 1 Mar 99 13:04 MET Received: from cat.turbocat.de (cat.turbocat.de [194.77.82.49]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25556 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:57:53 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dave@localhost) by cat.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA00298 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:57:52 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199903011057.LAA00298@cat.turbocat.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel Date: Mon, 1 Mar 99 11:57:51 +0100 To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how to stop a sound that is played? Organisation: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, my iFon answering machine works fine now. The only problem I have with the i4b layer is that a sound is played until it ends. Or is it possible to clear the ibtel output buffer? That would save me from this: while (!stop) { sending_x_bytes_down_thedrain(); stop=getStopDTMF(); } --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION WATCH OUT FOR TURBOFAX for OPENSTEP! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 1 3:37:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcsext.hcs.de (hcsext.hcs.de [194.123.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E8D615331 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 03:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1271 bytes) by hcsext.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:37:04 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-11) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m10HR0R-0000ayC; Mon, 1 Mar 99 12:37 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: how to stop a sound that is played? In-Reply-To: <199903011057.LAA00298@cat.turbocat.de> from David Wetzel at "Mar 1, 99 11:57:51 am" To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:37:03 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 443 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of David Wetzel: > Or is it possible to clear the ibtel output buffer? Everything is possible. YHTSL. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 1 13:57:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4071548B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:57:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id WAA19249 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:48:49 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id VAA01825 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:46:16 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199903012046.VAA01825@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: urgh?? To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ISDN mailing list) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:46:16 +0100 (CET) X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Got an interesting error a minute ago: Mar 1 21:43:44 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE dialing out from 263623158 to 7110575 Mar 1 21:43:44 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE outgoing call proceeding (ctl 0, ch 0) Mar 1 21:43:47 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE outgoing call disconnected (remote) Mar 1 21:43:47 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE cause 42: Switching equipment congestion (Q.850) Time to yell at my isp? Have no problems using analog phones hanging off my 2 TAs. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 1 14:10: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from dillema.cs.uit.no (dillema.cs.UiT.No [129.242.16.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428EE15479 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:09:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillema@dillema.cs.uit.no) Received: from dillema.cs.uit.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dillema.cs.uit.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24471; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 23:08:44 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199903012208.XAA24471@dillema.cs.uit.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD ISDN mailing list) Subject: Re: urgh?? In-reply-to: Your literary work of "Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:46:16 +0100." <199903012046.VAA01825@yedi.iaf.nl> From: Feico Dillema Reply-To: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Organisation: University of Tromso, Norway Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 23:08:43 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Your message dated: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:46:16 +0100 >Got an interesting error a minute ago: > >Mar 1 21:43:44 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE dialing out from 263623158 to >7110575 >Mar 1 21:43:44 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE outgoing call proceeding (ctl >0, ch 0) >Mar 1 21:43:47 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE outgoing call disconnected >(remote) >Mar 1 21:43:47 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE cause 42: Switching equipment >congestion (Q.850) > >Time to yell at my isp? Have no problems using analog phones hanging off >my 2 TAs. Ha! I don't think so (yelling at your ISP). I don't know much about the ISDN stuff, so maybe a more technical guy will correct me, but... I think you should yell at the Dutch PTT. I never encountered this actually myself in the Netherlands (but then again, I left the country ;), but have heard `problem' reports from friends in the Netherlands that during busy hours their ISDN data connections would `just drop'. Their (as non-technical-guys) explanation was that their ISDN line must be going bad now and then, causing them to loose the connection. I told them that was very unlikely. To me, it seems that the Dutch PTT finds it a valid strategy to start dropping their clients connections when their switches get a bit busy. I know they (used to) to do that during the growing pains of their mobile networks, so... Reason why? I guess some clients are more equal than others for the Dutch PTT, and as usual we're at the bottom of the foodchain ;-{ Feico. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 2 0:29:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcsext.hcs.de (hcsext.hcs.de [194.123.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DA9414CF4 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:29:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1678 bytes) by hcsext.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:28:54 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-11) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m10HkXt-0000ZmC; Tue, 2 Mar 99 09:28 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: urgh?? In-Reply-To: <199903012046.VAA01825@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Mar 1, 99 09:46:16 pm" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:28:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 883 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Wilko Bulte: > Mar 1 21:43:47 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE cause 42: Switching equipment > congestion (Q.850) > > Time to yell at my isp? No. Your isp has nothing to do with it. This is the so called "Douglas Adams Cause" which is observed when a new i4b version is available and everybody tries to get it ... :-) Seriously: the Q.850 standard says "this cause indicates that the switching equipment generating this cause is experiencing a period of high traffic". Its in the responsibility of the ISDN provider (the Dutch PTT ?). hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 2 10:27:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBAD14D34 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id TAA15526; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:23:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id TAA00804; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:19:25 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199903021819.TAA00804@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: urgh?? In-Reply-To: from Hellmuth Michaelis at "Mar 2, 99 09:28:53 am" To: hm@hcs.de Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:19:25 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Hellmuth Michaelis wrote... > >From the keyboard of Wilko Bulte: > > > Mar 1 21:43:47 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE cause 42: Switching equipment > > congestion (Q.850) > > > > Time to yell at my isp? > > No. Your isp has nothing to do with it. > > This is the so called "Douglas Adams Cause" which is observed when a new i4b > version is available and everybody tries to get it ... :-) Well, I wanted to sup -current but I get the message ;-) > Seriously: the Q.850 standard says "this cause indicates that the switching > equipment generating this cause is experiencing a period of high traffic". > > Its in the responsibility of the ISDN provider (the Dutch PTT ?). Dutch PTT alright. What I don't get that I could call my one analog phone with the other one (each on a different TA BTW) while i4b reported the congestion thingy. Obviously I could only test this at 'almost' the same time ;-) Anyway, it started working again 15 minutes later. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 2 11:56:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from zippo.unna.ping.de (zippo.unna.ping.de [195.37.121.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A3814CEF for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 11:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oskar@zippo.unna.ping.de) Received: from zippo.unna.ping.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippo.unna.ping.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01927; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:55:59 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199903021955.UAA01927@zippo.unna.ping.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/24/97 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: hm@hcs.de, freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org From: Jan-Hinrich Fessel Subject: Re: urgh?? In-Reply-To: Deine Nachricht vom Tue, 02 Mar 99 19:19:25 +0100. <199903021819.TAA00804@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Face: 'NlN?Dkb1WA4Fdbh(T&Okll'P?h$Ak1{5,LHx<2=v@!qg.G~6G?;]y`C/D#x5"GWN_.U4PA >rlR=V&h576tqk7-~tfGVVtZrybdmaG|iki>{4Kd&ra/d$&vleXP;y/Z"?4Q|$q?{T}SW]_bUHZmcH &C1^iA\&{>h66//IRsKzy[+f}l-:wc6T\Eg,Xc={E8Q\q"AqsV!!YG*/_fMcSlUw0pZ6j!KBMSTzz" Wd}uG:Zv#)gV?IGi^^fW0<`sO2D_MKP]gzx_\o%m<|~^+U>tu,)`*OJ]3n&@!K Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_727828200P"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:55:40 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_727828200P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <199903021819.TAA00804@yedi.iaf.nl>you write: > Dutch PTT alright. What I don't get that I could call my one analog phone > with the other one (each on a different TA BTW) while i4b reported the > congestion thingy. Obviously I could only test this at 'almost' the same > time ;-) They probably disconnected 64k clear data service first because on their backbone/Switch interconnection they can pack much more speech connections (3.1khz) into the availible packets than 64k guaranteed service connections. Gruesse Oskar ============================================================================== Tragbar ist, was nicht herunterfaellt. oskar@zappa.unna.ping.de ============================================================================== --==_Exmh_727828200P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBNtxCPLA63tqjeAhZAQFWGgP+IsM11vSp+CrJAjiS6B+4jMCek6nhXY1l 18LD6vVfKLbCSmbRsOpOXvQRhBHAnbW4oaKbUxtV3BqsMEhzIAqY/HWDl3EyTpt2 wxk6U3fuWU83OtSWtyrhBEfw6c6xUzn1i10t4NvGp5hyCOAKzIZntanN6bljxUj6 lq6PMvE9Kds= =XAAy -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --==_Exmh_727828200P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Mar 3 4: 2:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE06154F8 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 04:02:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie!bert.kts.org!hm@ppp.net) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc2.ppp.net [194.64.12.42]) by mail.ppp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA24628; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:02:02 +0100 Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m10IALh-002ZjZC; Wed, 3 Mar 99 13:02 MET Received: from bert.kts.org([194.55.156.2]) (1767 bytes) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with P:smtp/R:smart_host/T:uux (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:31:46 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #3 built 1998-Dec-9) Received: from localhost (1317 bytes) by bert.kts.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:32:11 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #4 built 1998-Dec-26) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: urgh?? In-Reply-To: <199903021819.TAA00804@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Mar 2, 1999 7:19:25 pm" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:32:11 +0100 (CET) Cc: hm@hcs.de, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Seriously: the Q.850 standard says "this cause indicates that the switching > > equipment generating this cause is experiencing a period of high traffic". > > > > Its in the responsibility of the ISDN provider (the Dutch PTT ?). > > Dutch PTT alright. What I don't get that I could call my one analog phone > with the other one (each on a different TA BTW) while i4b reported the > congestion thingy. Telephony uses another bearer capability than 64k data transmission and i am quite shure that telephony uses much less resources and is able to use a much less quality link. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe We all live in a yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Mar 3 4:16: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC371559A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 04:15:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by phk.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03114; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:15:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA00416; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:15:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: hm@kts.org Cc: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte), hm@hcs.de, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: urgh?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Mar 1999 10:32:11 +0100." Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:15:39 +0100 Message-ID: <414.920463339@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message , Hellmuth Michaelis writes: > >> > Seriously: the Q.850 standard says "this cause indicates that the switching >> > equipment generating this cause is experiencing a period of high traffic". >> > >> > Its in the responsibility of the ISDN provider (the Dutch PTT ?). >> >> Dutch PTT alright. What I don't get that I could call my one analog phone >> with the other one (each on a different TA BTW) while i4b reported the >> congestion thingy. > >Telephony uses another bearer capability than 64k data transmission and i >am quite shure that telephony uses much less resources and is able to use >a much less quality link. While this is true in theory, it doesn't happen in practice because it would require extra hw/sw/conf and would screw modem users bad enough that even european telco's have figured out it is a bad idea. I think it much more likely that any call labeled "voice", "audio" or similar will be given priority over mere "data" in case of contention. This may even be a legal requirement here and there. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Mar 3 4:38: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.promo.de (mail.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F0214ED4 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 04:37:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefan@promo.de) Received: from d225.promo.de (d225.Promo.DE [194.45.188.225]) by mail.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19826; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:37:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:37:11 +0100 From: Stefan Bethke To: hm@hcs.de, Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: urgh?? Message-ID: <1187018.3129457031@d225.promo.de> In-Reply-To: Originator-Info: login-id=stefan; server=mail X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.4.2, s/n U-301178] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > From the keyboard of Wilko Bulte: > >> Mar 1 21:43:47 yedi isdnd[277]: CHD 00002 IAE cause 42: Switching >> equipment congestion (Q.850) >> >> Time to yell at my isp? > > No. Your isp has nothing to do with it. Not necessarily. A wierd terminal server might be able to send this cause when connected to a PRI. But most likely, it's some intermediate switch which is overloaded. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Mar 3 15: 4:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from scottb.demon.co.uk (scottb.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43161581F for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:04:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barry@scottb.demon.co.uk) Received: from barrynt (barrynt.private [172.16.1.6]) by scottb.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01363 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:02:25 GMT (envelope-from barry@scottb.demon.co.uk) From: "Barry Scott" To: "Freebsd-Isdn" Subject: Double accounting in ISP0 devices - a prototype fix Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:01:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be65c9$bc9d7460$060110ac@barrynt.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here are all the places in the i4b code that operate on the TX and RX bytes values that netstat reports. # find . -name \*.[hc] |xargs grep -n if_obytes /dev/null ./driver/i4b_ipr.c:44: * sc->sc_if.if_obytes # of bytes going out to the line (after VJ) ./driver/i4b_ipr.c:302: sc->sc_if.if_obytes = 0; ./driver/i4b_ipr.c:1082: sc->sc_if.if_obytes += m->m_pkthdr.len; ./driver/i4b_isppp.c:265: sc->sc_if.if_obytes = 0; ./driver/i4b_isppp.c:379: sc->sc_if.if_obytes += m->m_pkthdr.len; ./sppp/if_spppsubr.c:779: ifp->if_obytes += m->m_pkthdr.len + 3; ./sppp/if_spppsubr.c:1163: ifp->if_obytes += m->m_pkthdr.len + 3; ./sppp/if_spppsubr.c:1221: ifp->if_obytes += m->m_pkthdr.len + 3; ./sppp/if_spppsubr.c:3832: ifp->if_obytes += m->m_pkthdr.len + 3; # find . -name \*.[hc] |xargs grep -n if_ibytes /dev/null ./driver/i4b_ipr.c:43: * sc->sc_if.if_ibytes # of bytes coming in from the line (before VJ) ./driver/i4b_ipr.c:301: sc->sc_if.if_ibytes = 0; ./driver/i4b_ipr.c:882: sc->sc_if.if_ibytes += m->m_pkthdr.len; ./driver/i4b_isppp.c:264: sc->sc_if.if_ibytes = 0; ./driver/i4b_isppp.c:628: sc->sc_if.if_ibytes += m->m_pkthdr.len; ./sppp/if_spppsubr.c:438: ifp->if_ibytes += m->m_pkthdr.len + 3; You will notice that both if_spppsubr.c and i4b_isppp.c want to add to the if_ibytes and if_obytes fields, same goes for if_ipackets and if_opackets. I removed the lines from i4b_isppp.c and have counters that make sense. As I have no idea which modules is responisble for incrementing these fields. At would be nice for someone that does know which lines to zap to generate a patch. Barry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Mar 4 0:13:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.30.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC3D14DC7 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:13:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuku@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA04163 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:13:00 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:13:00 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199903040813.JAA04163@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: natd/ipfw - syntax, ugh Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running i4b on a gateway machine having ipr0 on the one side and le0 on the other side: isdn # isdn # netstat -i (cut off irrelevant lines) Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll le0 1500 192.168.1 monk 420701 92 20570 75 257 ipr0 1500 isdn isdn 243 0 226185 0 0 /etc/rc.firewall: /sbin/ipfw -f flush /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ipr0 /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any natd invocation: natd -n ipr0 Somehow netbios packets either make it through the gateway or make it through ipr0 from my locally running nmbd (samba). Couldn't yet figure out. Could someone give me the ipfw rule(s) to filter ports 137/139 on tcp and udp packets to prevent my ISDN line being activated every 15 minutes. Thanks. -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Mar 4 3:28:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.promo.de (mail.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE2F14F42 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 03:28:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefan@promo.de) Received: from d225.promo.de (d225.Promo.DE [194.45.188.225]) by mail.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25658; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:27:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:27:40 +0100 From: Stefan Bethke To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd/ipfw - syntax, ugh Message-ID: <413901.3129539260@d225.promo.de> In-Reply-To: <199903040813.JAA04163@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> Originator-Info: login-id=stefan; server=mail X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.4.2, s/n U-301178] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christoph Kukulies wrote: > /etc/rc.firewall: > > /sbin/ipfw -f flush > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ipr0 > /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any > Could someone give me the ipfw rule(s) to filter ports 137/139 on tcp > and udp packets to prevent my ISDN line being activated every 15 minutes. Add before "pass all from any to any": /sbin/ipfw add deny udp from any 137 to any via ipr0 /sbin/ipfw add deny udp from any 139 to any via ipr0 /sbin/ipfw add deny tcp from any 137 to any via ipr0 /sbin/ipfw add deny tcp from any 139 to any via ipr0 Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Mar 4 12:33:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (newpc.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850201506C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:32:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA00678 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:06:17 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199903042006.VAA00678@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Double accounting in ISP0 devices - a prototype fix Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:01:13 GMT." <000101be65c9$bc9d7460$060110ac@barrynt.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:06:17 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Barry Scott" writes: > Here are all the places in the i4b code that operate on the > TX and RX bytes values that netstat reports. [snip] > You will notice that both if_spppsubr.c and i4b_isppp.c want to add to >the > if_ibytes and if_obytes fields, same goes for if_ipackets and if_opacke >ts. > > I removed the lines from i4b_isppp.c and have counters that make sense. > > As I have no idea which modules is responisble for incrementing these > fields. At would be nice for someone that does know which lines to zap > to generate a patch. > IMO it should be done in i4b_isppp.c since if_spppsubr.c is meant to be a generic synch. PPP module and is meant to interface to other drivers as well. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - garyj@muc.de Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Mar 4 15: 1:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB9215051 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:01:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA08939; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:00:52 +0100 Received: from martins (hwart.teuto.de [212.8.203.83]) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA03071; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:45:50 +0100 (MET) From: "Martin Husemann" To: "Wilko Bulte" , Cc: Subject: RE: urgh?? Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:45:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01be6690$bfb0c770$53cb08d4@martins.teuto.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199903021819.TAA00804@yedi.iaf.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Dutch PTT alright. What I don't get that I could call my one analog phone > with the other one (each on a different TA BTW) while i4b reported the > congestion thingy. Obviously I could only test this at 'almost' the same > time ;-) They might assign different priorities to different bearer capabilities - if you request 64 kBit/s transparent data they'll need that bandwith, if it's only voice you might not notice a slightly smaller bandwith than promissed ;-) Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Mar 4 21:12:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dinoex.sub.org (mail.dinoex.sub.de [195.243.29.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE92314FDA for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:12:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.dinoex.sub.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id GAA20373 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 06:12:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with BSMTP id FAA17159 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 05:15:05 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <5Khstfpjai@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: panic robbot at night Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:10:18 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.70 X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect v0.77-m3] X-ZC-ROT: dinoex.sub.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 19990305000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I found the following Entry in my log just before the rebbotr: Mar 5 01:21:19 /kernel: i4b-L3-i4b_decode_q931_codeset0: IEI_CHANNELID, unsupported value 0x44 Can this be a bug from the switch (german telecom) kernarlm dump tells: pannic: page fault (kgdb) bt #10 0xf01dfe9a in trap_fatal () #11 0xf01df95c in trap_pfault () #12 0xf01df5e7 in trap () #13 0x3030303 in ?? () #14 0xf01184c9 in i4b_l4_connect_active_ind () #15 0xf0113944 in F_04O () #16 0xf01131a4 in next_l3state () #17 0xf011181f in i4b_decode_q931 () #18 0xf0115a4d in i4b_dl_data_ind () #19 0xf01103f0 in i4b_rxd_i_frame () #20 0xf010c84b in i4b_ph_data_ind () #21 0xf01d15af in isic_isac_irq () #22 0xf01d0489 in isicintr () I will take a deeper look, but not this weekend. kind regards Dirk -- Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany -- Tel. +49-5606-6512 . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 5 0:46:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcsext.hcs.de (hcsext.hcs.de [194.123.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82BA814D92 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1667 bytes) by hcsext.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:45:09 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-11) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m10IqEG-0000ZmC; Fri, 5 Mar 99 09:45 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: panic robbot at night In-Reply-To: <5Khstfpjai@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> from Dirk Meyer at "Mar 5, 99 04:10:18 am" To: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:45:08 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 844 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Dirk Meyer: > Mar 5 01:21:19 /kernel: i4b-L3-i4b_decode_q931_codeset0: > IEI_CHANNELID, unsupported value 0x44 The exchange uses and extended channel identification info element, which is currently not implemented. > Can this be a bug from the switch (german telecom) I don't think it is a bug in the switch. More like a (very seldom used) feature not implemented in i4b. I thought that this format was just used for PRI's and in fact i've never seen it on BRI's. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 5 2:11:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from postfix.rhein.de (aiur.rhein.de [193.175.27.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B581503C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:11:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from is@jocelyn.rhein.de) Received: from jocelyn.rhein.de (jocelyn.rhein.de [193.175.27.210]) by postfix.rhein.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221411276B; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:11:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from is@localhost) by jocelyn.rhein.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00629; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:05:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:05:45 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: Martin Husemann Cc: Wilko Bulte , hm@hcs.de, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: urgh?? Message-ID: <19990305110545.D310@jocelyn.rhein.de> References: <199903021819.TAA00804@yedi.iaf.nl> <000a01be6690$bfb0c770$53cb08d4@martins.teuto.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <000a01be6690$bfb0c770$53cb08d4@martins.teuto.de>; from Martin Husemann on Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 11:45:49PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 11:45:49PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > > Dutch PTT alright. What I don't get that I could call my one analog phone > > with the other one (each on a different TA BTW) while i4b reported the > > congestion thingy. Obviously I could only test this at 'almost' the same > > time ;-) > > They might assign different priorities to different bearer capabilities - if > you request 64 kBit/s transparent data they'll need that bandwith, if it's > only voice you might not notice a slightly smaller bandwith than promissed > ;-) Uhm, _how_? (Unless they run a lossy voice compression algorithm on your data behind your back). -is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 5 7:51:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from custos.callcenter.systemhaus.net (unknown [62.152.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B7B151DC for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:51:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from listmail@helena.callcenter.systemhaus.net) Received: (from smap@localhost) by custos.callcenter.systemhaus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24899 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:51:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from helena.otelo-call.de(194.233.120.14) by custos.otelo-call.de via smap (V2.1) id xma024897; Fri, 5 Mar 99 16:50:59 +0100 Received: (from listmail@localhost) by helena.otelo-call.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23897 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:50:59 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Weber-Fahr Message-Id: <199903051550.QAA23897@helena.otelo-call.de> Subject: FreeBSD 2.X support To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org (isdn mailing list) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:50:58 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, quoting Hellmuth in README from 0.71: FreeBSD 2.2.x is no longer supported by i4b, this release might still run on 2.2 but upcoming i4b releases will not! It does, btw, run on 2.2.7. Is there any chance for a change of this policy ? I've got quite a few 2.x Systems in 'production', two of which run i4b, and I don't plan getting them to 3.x any time soon (actually, at least one of them will never go to 3.x unless they have a replacement for the sea driver). So, what does it take to keep i4b supporting FreeBSD 2.X ? Is there anything I could do ? Regards Christoph Weber-Fahr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 5 10:11:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21433151C9 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:11:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA21687; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:11:24 +0100 Received: from martins (hwart.teuto.de [212.8.203.83]) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA01384; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:11:20 +0100 (MET) From: "Martin Husemann" To: "Ignatios Souvatzis" Cc: "Wilko Bulte" , , Subject: RE: urgh?? Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:11:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be6733$918443b0$53cb08d4@martins.teuto.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990305110545.D310@jocelyn.rhein.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Uhm, _how_? (Unless they run a lossy voice compression algorithm > on your data > behind your back). You are the physician, so I won't argue here ;-) I thought they could get away with, say, 4 kHz @ 8 bit sampling rate without everybody complaining about bad lines - but I don't realy know any facts. Anyway, they could (politicaly) give voice calls higher priority. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 5 11: 2:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABBB151BB for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:02:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie!bert.kts.org!hm@ppp.net) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc2.ppp.net [194.64.12.42]) by mail.ppp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA21417; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 20:02:04 +0100 Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m10IzrG-002ZjfC; Fri, 5 Mar 99 20:02 MET Received: from bert.kts.org([194.55.156.2]) (2053 bytes) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with P:smtp/R:smart_host/T:uux (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:53:03 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #3 built 1998-Dec-9) Received: from localhost (1605 bytes) by bert.kts.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:53:29 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #4 built 1998-Dec-26) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.X support In-Reply-To: <199903051550.QAA23897@helena.otelo-call.de> from Christoph Weber-Fahr at "Mar 5, 1999 4:50:58 pm" To: listmail@helena.callcenter.systemhaus.net (Christoph Weber-Fahr) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:53:29 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christoph Weber-Fahr wrote: > Is there any chance for a change of this policy ? I've got quite a few > 2.x Systems in 'production', two of which run i4b, and I don't plan > getting them to 3.x any time soon (actually, at least one of them will > never go to 3.x unless they have a replacement for the sea driver). The reasons are: - the time and work required to to get a release out. something has to be removed to make place for new things. - code clutter: in case old code is not removed from such a thing like i4b it will stay there forever. - 2.2 dropped: the new "stable" is 3.1. > So, what does it take to keep i4b supporting FreeBSD 2.X ? Is there > anything I could do ? You are doing something right now :-), if someone else will do all the release work required for 2.2.x next time ... hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe We all live in a yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 5 13:53:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from scottb.demon.co.uk (scottb.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBB914D41 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:53:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barry@scottb.demon.co.uk) Received: from barrynt (barrynt.private [172.16.1.6]) by scottb.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA00291 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:52:06 GMT (envelope-from barry@scottb.demon.co.uk) From: "Barry Scott" To: "Freebsd-Isdn" Subject: RE: urgh?? Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:50:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be6752$3aa2a770$060110ac@barrynt.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <19990305110545.D310@jocelyn.rhein.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I checked with the folks at work today about circuit bandwidth. (I'm working at Nortel Networks for Public Carrier networks at the moment) The only place that they know of where a circuit is not full bandwidth is on satellite links where compression is used. They also think its odd that calls are being dropped. The switching cost is at call set-up time and call disconnect time - not during a call. The only event that might lost you a call is if a part of the equipment failed. Not all calls survive the fail over in a fault tolerant box. Barry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 5 14: 3:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from scottb.demon.co.uk (scottb.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD8315151 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:03:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barry@scottb.demon.co.uk) Received: from barrynt (barrynt.private [172.16.1.6]) by scottb.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA00316 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:02:07 GMT (envelope-from barry@scottb.demon.co.uk) From: "Barry Scott" To: "Freebsd-Isdn" Subject: RE: FreeBSD 2.X support Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:00:49 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be6753$a122ee00$060110ac@barrynt.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > - 2.2 dropped: the new "stable" is 3.1. I haven't seen one 3.anything CD from Walnut creek so I don't have the opportunity to upgrade to 3.1 stable. (I'm not downloading all that stuff.) Anyway 0.71 works on 2.2.7 so I'm happy. Guess I'll freeze at that until 3.something CD-ROM's ship. BArry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 5 14: 9:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ixori.demon.nl (ixori.demon.nl [195.11.248.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493CC15077 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bart@ixori.demon.nl) Received: from localhost.ixori.demon.nl (localhost.ixori.demon.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ixori.demon.nl (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10700; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:13:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bart@ixori.demon.nl) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:13:09 +0100 (CET) From: Bart van Leeuwen To: Barry Scott Cc: Freebsd-Isdn Subject: RE: urgh?? In-Reply-To: <000001be6752$3aa2a770$060110ac@barrynt.private> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Barry Scott wrote: > I checked with the folks at work today about circuit bandwidth. > (I'm working at Nortel Networks for Public Carrier networks at > the moment) > > The only place that they know of where a circuit is not full bandwidth > is on satellite links where compression is used. > > They also think its odd that calls are being dropped. The switching cost > is at call set-up time and call disconnect time - not during a call. > The only event that might lost you a call is if a part of the equipment > failed. Not all calls survive the fail over in a fault tolerant box. > > Barry Hmm. that actually happens at times on the interconnection between kpn and other ld carriers in the Netherlands it seems. (have this kind of disconnects every now and then when using a connection that has to be switched to enertel, after which there is usually a problem reported with the switching between the 2 networks. ) Bart. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Mar 6 0:28: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0D5151AF for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 00:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id JAA11820; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 09:09:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id XAA14147; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:58:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199903052258.XAA14147@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: urgh?? In-Reply-To: from Bart van Leeuwen at "Mar 5, 99 11:13:09 pm" To: bart@ixori.demon.nl (Bart van Leeuwen) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:58:45 +0100 (CET) Cc: barry@scottb.demon.co.uk, freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Bart van Leeuwen wrote... > > > On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Barry Scott wrote: > > > I checked with the folks at work today about circuit bandwidth. > > (I'm working at Nortel Networks for Public Carrier networks at > > the moment) > > > > The only place that they know of where a circuit is not full bandwidth > > is on satellite links where compression is used. > > > > They also think its odd that calls are being dropped. The switching cost > > is at call set-up time and call disconnect time - not during a call. > > The only event that might lost you a call is if a part of the equipment > > failed. Not all calls survive the fail over in a fault tolerant box. > > > > Barry > > Hmm. that actually happens at times on the interconnection between kpn and > other ld carriers in the Netherlands it seems. (have this kind of > disconnects every now and then when using a connection that has to be > switched to enertel, after which there is usually a problem reported with > the switching between the 2 networks. ) Hmm, the ISP I use also uses Enertel local dial-in numbers... Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Mar 6 7:10:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FE714CEC for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 07:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Received: from stiller.netland.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 10JIiJ-0008Ug-00; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 16:10:03 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stiller.netland.inka.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12265 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 16:08:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Message-Id: <199903061508.QAA12265@stiller.netland.inka.de> To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: HSCX version 15 unknown Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 16:08:36 +0100 From: Bernd Rosauer Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I set up a second i4b box using a dated Teles S0/8 card. Booting the newly configured kernel it says: Mar 6 15:42:55 montauk /kernel.new: isic0 at ? irq 5 maddr 0xd0000 msize 4096 flags 0x1 on isa Mar 6 15:42:55 montauk /kernel.new: isic0: Error, HSCX version 15 unknown! Is there anything one can do about this problem (instead of simply getting another ISDN card)? Thanks for your help! -br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message