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Date:      Tue, 28 Nov 1995 02:08:11 +0000 ()
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        bakul@netcom.com (Bakul Shah)
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Thoughts on the install and on Red Hat Linux.
Message-ID:  <199511280208.CAA06653@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199511271937.LAA05263@netcom22.netcom.com> from "Bakul Shah" at Nov 27, 95 11:37:18 am

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Bakul Shah stands accused of saying:
> 
> Have you considered using one of the free http clients &
> servers to implement the user interface and call cgi scripts
> with user specified input?

Hmm.  So, for ram<8M, we do text, for 8M<ram<16M, we do X, and for
16M<ram we fire up netscape.  I can see the vegetables incoming 8)

> I think I suggested this once before to you but after this
> experience I am convinced that this is the way to do a lot
> of configuration, system administration etc.  You can use an
> ASCII based client when X is not available and use X based
> client when it is.  If you can get unix upto the point where
> httpd can run and networking is up you can even do remote
> installation.

This really isn't a silly idea for administration, but AFAIK (not
being an expert on these things), there isn't a _small_ http server
around, that can run on minimal configuration (read: almost none)

> I realise that much groundwork remains to be done and even
> if we did this, actual installation problems still need to
> be solved, but at least as a model this should be
> considered.  For instance, rather than defining your own
> forms language just use HTML.  HTML will also allow you to
> put in links for help files etc.  I really should put
> together a prototype.... anyway, if anyone is interested we
> can explore this idea further.

It certainly beats the hell out of inventing another forms language.
The possibilities for managing most of the install from a seperate
node are also attractive.  I've always felt that the best way of 
managing an installation on a headless router would be to point
the console stuff somewhere else; this would be one way of doing it.
(A "click here" link that brings up a telnet session to the 'install-debug"
port 8)

So many ideas 8)

> --bakul

(note followups, as suggested by Jordan, to install@freebsd.org)

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