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Date:      Tue, 21 Apr 2020 10:51:47 -0500
From:      Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: GPL, not freebsd should be rewritten based on microkernel architecture
Message-ID:  <21fdc970-5408-51c8-c11e-d2832191e137@kicp.uchicago.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20200421120756.GA98882@neutralgood.org>
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Kevin (and others),

Please, stop feeding the troll.

Other mail lists will kick him long time up the thread already. This 
list is too kind, and is being abused due to that. Stop helping the list 
being abused.

Valeri

PS Yes, I top-posted ON PURPOSE.

On 4/21/20 7:07 AM, Kevin P. Neal wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:09:53PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:59 PM John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> In article <CAGBxaX=4=
>>>>> yx-xSo0gdsVgAoA7fUn8oRq3173covquHNw61kBJQ@mail.gmail.com> you write:
>>>>>> Thus I suspect if push came to shove in a legal fight about the
>>> legality
>>>>> of
>>>>>> GPL forcing third parties that just happen to use a GPL'ed project to
>>> give
>>>>>> up all claims over how their work is used would likely
>>> unconstitutional.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd suggest not playing junior lawyer.  The GPL is a contract and
>>>>> there have been successful cases to enforce it.  Nobody has any
>>>>> inherent right to use GPL'ed software (or any other software not
>>>>> released into the public domain) so if you don't like the terms, don't
>>>>> use it.
>>>> There is major disagreement if it is a contract or an license (the two
>>> are
>>>> not the same) see the wikipedia article on legal status
>>>
>>> Whichever it might turn out to be, it's still inane to claim there's any
>>> sort of constitutional issue, and it's still a bad idea to play junior
>>> lawyer.
>>>
>>
>>   Not true according to the US Copyright office:
>> https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html
> 
> When you post links like this do you even _read_ them?
> 
> Here is your post, archived:
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2020-April/288702.html
> 
> You said:
> % Thus I suspect if push came to shove in a legal fight about the legality of
> % GPL forcing third parties that just happen to use a GPL'ed project to give
> % up all claims over how their work is used would likely unconstitutional.
> 
> To repeat the other poster, "it's still inane to claim there's any sort
> of constitutional issue, and it's still a bad idea to play junior lawyer."
> 
> A claim that the GPL could be "unconstitutional" is a claim that there is
> a "constitutional issue" with the GPL.
> 
> Stop before you dig a bigger hole for yourself.
> 

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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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