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Date:      Wed, 13 Jul 2016 23:46:35 -0700
From:      Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net>
To:        Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org>, Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>, FreeBSD Toolchain <freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r302601 - in head/sys: arm/include arm64/include [clang 3.8.0: powerpc int instead of 32-bit SYSVR4's long and 64-bit ELF V2 long]
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On 2016-Jul-13, at 6:00 PM, Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 13.07.2016 11:53, Mark Millard wrote:
>> [The below does note that TARGET=3Dpowerpc has a mix of signed =
wchar_t and unsigned char types and most architectures have both being =
signed types.]
>=20
> POSIX says nothing about wchar_t and char should be the same =
(un)signed.
> It is arm ABI docs may say so only. They are different entities
> differently encoded and cross assigning between wchar_t and char is =
not
> recommended.

[My "odd" would better have been the longer phrase "unusual for FreeBSD" =
for the signed type mismatch point.]

C11 (9899:2011[2012]) and C++11 (14882:2011(E)) agree with your POSIX =
note: no constraint to have the same signed type status as char.

But when I then looked at the "System V Application Binary Interface =
PowerpC Processor Supplement" (1995-Sept SunSoft document) that I =
believe FreeBSD uses for powerpc (32-bit only: TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc) it =
has:

typedef long wchar_t;

as part of: Figure 6-39 <stddef.h> (page labeled 6-38).

While agreeing about the signed-type status for wchar_t this does not =
agree with FreeBSD 11.0's use of int as the type:

sys/powerpc/include/_types.h:typedef	int		___wchar_t;
sys/powerpc/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MIN	__INT_MIN	=
/* min value for a wchar_t */
sys/powerpc/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MAX	__INT_MAX	=
/* max value for a wchar_t */

# clang --target=3Dpowerpc-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null | =
more
. . .
#define __WCHAR_MAX__ 2147483647
#define __WCHAR_TYPE__ int
#define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
. . .

I'm not as sure of which document is official for TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc64 =
but using "Power Architecture 64-bit ELF V2 ABI Specification" (Open =
POWER ABI for Linux Supplement) as an example of what likely is common =
for that context: 5.1.3 Types Defined in Standard header lists:

typedef long wchar_t;

which again does not agree with FreeBSD 11.0's use of int as the type:

# clang --target=3Dpowerpc64-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null =
| more
. . .
#define __WCHAR_MAX__ 2147483647
#define __WCHAR_TYPE__ int
#define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
. . .


=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
markmi at dsl-only.net


>=20
> On 2016-Jul-11, at 8:57 PM, Andrey Chernov <ache at freebsd.org> =
wrote:
>=20
>> On 12.07.2016 5:44, Mark Millard wrote:
>>> My understanding of the criteria for __WCHAR_MIN and __WCHAR_MAX:
>>>=20
>>> A) __WCHAR_MIN and __WCHAR_MAX: same type as the integer promotion =
of
>>> ___wchar_t (if that is distinct).
>>> B) __WCHAR_MIN is the low value for ___wchar_t as an integer type; =
not
>>> necessarily a valid char value
>>> C) __WCHAR_MAX is the high value for ___wchar_t as an integer type; =
not
>>> necessarily a valid char value
>>=20
>> It seems you are right about "not a valid char value", I'll back this
>> change out.
>>=20
>>> As far as I know arm FreeBSD uses unsigned character types (of =
whatever
>>> width).
>>=20
>> Probably it should be unsigned for other architectures too, clang =
does
>> not generate negative values with L'<char>' literals and locale use =
only
>> positive values too.
>=20
> Looking around:
>=20
> # grep -i wchar sys/*/include/_types.h
> sys/arm/include/_types.h:typedef	unsigned int	___wchar_t;
> sys/arm/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MIN	0		=
/* min value for a wchar_t */
> sys/arm/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MAX	__UINT_MAX	=
/* max value for a wchar_t */
> sys/arm64/include/_types.h:typedef	unsigned int	___wchar_t;
> sys/arm64/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MIN	0		=
/* min value for a wchar_t */
> sys/arm64/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MAX	__UINT_MAX	=
/* max value for a wchar_t */
> sys/mips/include/_types.h:typedef	int		___wchar_t;
> sys/mips/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MIN	__INT_MIN	=
/* min value for a wchar_t */
> sys/mips/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MAX	__INT_MAX	=
/* max value for a wchar_t */
> sys/powerpc/include/_types.h:typedef	int		___wchar_t;
> sys/powerpc/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MIN	__INT_MIN	=
/* min value for a wchar_t */
> sys/powerpc/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MAX	__INT_MAX	=
/* max value for a wchar_t */
> sys/riscv/include/_types.h:typedef	int		___wchar_t;
> sys/riscv/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MIN	__INT_MIN	=
/* min value for a wchar_t */
> sys/riscv/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MAX	__INT_MAX	=
/* max value for a wchar_t */
> sys/sparc64/include/_types.h:typedef	int		___wchar_t;
> sys/sparc64/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MIN	__INT_MIN	=
/* min value for a wchar_t */
> sys/sparc64/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MAX	__INT_MAX	=
/* max value for a wchar_t */
> sys/x86/include/_types.h:typedef	int		___wchar_t;
> sys/x86/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MIN	__INT_MIN	=
/* min value for a wchar_t */
> sys/x86/include/_types.h:#define	__WCHAR_MAX	__INT_MAX	=
/* max value for a wchar_t */
>=20
> So only arm and arm64 have unsigned wchar_t types.
>=20
> [NOTE: __CHAR16_TYPE__ and __CHAR32_TYPE__ are always unsigned: in =
C++11 terms char16_t is like std::uint_least16_t and char32_t is like =
std::uint_least32_t despite being distinct types. So __CHAR16_TYPE__ and =
__CHAR32_TYPE__ are ignored below.]
>=20
> The clang 3.8.0 compiler output has an odd mix for TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc=
 and TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc64 . . .
>=20
> armv6 has unsigned types for both char and __WCHAR_TYPE__.
> aarch64 has unsigned types for both char and __WCHAR_TYPE__.
> powerpc has unsigned for char but signed for __WCHAR_TYPE__.
> powerpc64 has unsigned for char but signed for __WCHAR_TYPE__.
> amd64 has signed types for both char and __WCHAR_TYPE__.
> i386 has signed types for both char and __WCHAR_TYPE__.
> mips has signed types for both char and __WCHAR_TYPE__.
> sparc64 has signed types for both char and __WCHAR_TYPE__.
> (riscv is not covered by clang as I understand)
>=20
> The details via compiler #define's. . .
>=20
> # clang --target=3Darmv6-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null | =
more
> . . .
> #define __BYTE_ORDER__ __ORDER_LITTLE_ENDIAN__
> . . .
> #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
> #define __CHAR_UNSIGNED__ 1
> . . .
> #define __WCHAR_MAX__ 4294967295U
> #define __WCHAR_TYPE__ unsigned int
> #define __WCHAR_UNSIGNED__ 1
> #define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
> . . .
>=20
> # clang --target=3Daarch64-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null =
| more
> . . .
> #define __BYTE_ORDER__ __ORDER_LITTLE_ENDIAN__
> . . .
> #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
> #define __CHAR_UNSIGNED__ 1
> . . .
> #define __WCHAR_MAX__ 4294967295U
> #define __WCHAR_TYPE__ unsigned int
> #define __WCHAR_UNSIGNED__ 1
> #define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
> . . .
>=20
> # clang --target=3Dpowerpc-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null =
| more
> . . .
> #define __BYTE_ORDER__ __ORDER_BIG_ENDIAN__
> . . .
> #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
> #define __CHAR_UNSIGNED__ 1
> . . .
> #define __WCHAR_MAX__ 2147483647
> #define __WCHAR_TYPE__ int
> #define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
> . . . (note the lack of __WCHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
> Is powerpc wrong?
>=20
> # clang --target=3Dpowerpc64-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < =
/dev/null | more
> . . .
> #define __BYTE_ORDER__ __ORDER_BIG_ENDIAN__
> . . .
> #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
> #define __CHAR_UNSIGNED__ 1
> . . .
> #define __WCHAR_MAX__ 2147483647
> #define __WCHAR_TYPE__ int
> #define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
> . . . (note the lack of __WCHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
> Is powerpc64 wrong?
>=20
>=20
> # clang --target=3Damd64-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null | =
more
> . . .
> #define __BYTE_ORDER__ __ORDER_LITTLE_ENDIAN__
> . . .
> #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
> . . . (note the lack of __CHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
> #define __WCHAR_MAX__ 2147483647
> #define __WCHAR_TYPE__ int
> #define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
> . . . (note the lack of __WCHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
> # clang --target=3Di386-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null | =
more
> . . .
> #define __BYTE_ORDER__ __ORDER_LITTLE_ENDIAN__
> . . .
> #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
> . . . (note the lack of __CHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
> #define __WCHAR_MAX__ 2147483647
> #define __WCHAR_TYPE__ int
> #define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
> . . . (note the lack of __WCHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
>=20
> # clang --target=3Dmips-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null | =
more
> . . .
> #define __BYTE_ORDER__ __ORDER_BIG_ENDIAN__
> . . .
> #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
> . . . (note the lack of __CHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
> #define __WCHAR_MAX__ 2147483647
> #define __WCHAR_TYPE__ int
> #define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
> . . . (note the lack of __WCHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
> # clang --target=3Dsparc64-freebsd11 -std=3Dc99 -E -dM  - < /dev/null =
| more
> . . .
> #define __BYTE_ORDER__ __ORDER_BIG_ENDIAN__
> . . .
> #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
> . . . (note the lack of __CHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
> #define __WCHAR_MAX__ 2147483647
> #define __WCHAR_TYPE__ int
> #define __WCHAR_WIDTH__ 32
> . . . (note the lack of __WCHAR_UNSIGNED__) . . .
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net
>=20





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