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Date:      Tue, 24 Oct 1995 07:48:58 +0300 (MSK)
From:      =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@rocky.sri.MT.net>
Cc:        ache@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ld.so, LD_NOSTD_PATH, and suid/sgid programs
Message-ID:  <Paw07ZmC14@ache.dialup.demos.ru>
In-Reply-To: <199510240416.WAA24786@rocky.sri.MT.net>; from Nate Williams at Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:16:21 -0600
References:  <199510240014.RAA21318@aslan.cdrom.com> <Dah73Zm0GT@ache.dialup.demos.ru> <199510240245.UAA24602@rocky.sri.MT.net> <Woch5Zm4S1@ache.dialup.demos.ru> <199510240416.WAA24786@rocky.sri.MT.net>

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In message <199510240416.WAA24786@rocky.sri.MT.net> Nate Williams
    writes:

>> In message <199510240245.UAA24602@rocky.sri.MT.net> Nate Williams
>>     writes:
>> 
>> >I agree, and it appears that David and John P. are also in agreement.
>> 
>> Well, I and Terry in agreement :-)

>No, Terry and you are in disagreement.  Read again what he wrote.
>Because FreeBSD's handling of the code is broken, then your fix is also
>broken.

My fix is attempt to cure FreeBSD handling, but seems that full cure
will be complete removing of such thing.

>> >One, I find it hard to believe a program will work because it's in
>> >memory even though the shlibs can't be found, and secondly any script
>> 
>> Want experiment? Well. Start tcsh (it is dynamic). Then
>> remove ld.so.hints or use ldconfig -s. You still can prefectly
>> works in shell, but all share binaries dumps core.
>> Don't forget to reboot after.

>Depending on this is a *very* bad thing.

Not for true hacker :-)

>I don't think you're 'script' is at all convincing, at least not to me.
>In any case it appears the consensus is to remove this feature from use,
>which I also agree would be a good thing.

I vote for complete removing LD_NOSTD_PATH too.

-- 
Andrey A. Chernov        : And I rest so composedly,  /Now, in my bed,
ache@astral.msk.su       : That any beholder  /Might fancy me dead -
http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me,  /Thinking me dead.
RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team :         E.A.Poe         From "For Annie" 1849



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