From owner-freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Fri Aug 25 18:01:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989EEDDDA40 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 18:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86B2669AD1 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 18:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v7PI1PFn015102 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 18:01:25 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 221813] Mechanism is needed to utilize discontinuous memory segments supplied by the EFI and other boot envs Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 18:01:25 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: new X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: uefi X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: sobomax@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_id short_desc product version rep_platform bug_file_loc op_sys bug_status keywords bug_severity priority component assigned_to reporter cc Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 18:01:25 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D221813 Bug ID: 221813 Summary: Mechanism is needed to utilize discontinuous memory segments supplied by the EFI and other boot envs Product: Base System Version: CURRENT Hardware: Any URL: http://bit.ly/2vdC30w OS: Any Status: New Keywords: uefi Severity: Affects Only Me Priority: --- Component: kern Assignee: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Reporter: sobomax@FreeBSD.org CC: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org, marcel@FreeBSD.org This is a follow-up ticket created after good discussion along the lines of= bug #211746, particularly good comment that sums up the essence of it is quoted below. In our particular case this causes to inability to use more than 64MB or me= mory to load kernel and images. The solution could also be some kind of scatter-gather mechanism for blobs or memory, so if the blob is to big to f= it into single chunk then loader splits it over multiple regions and lets kern= el do its VM magic to stitch pages back together in the KVA. This will leave us with 64MB of data for the kernel, but at least we would be able to pre-load much larger images. -------------------------------- Marcel Moolenaar freebsd_committer 2017-02-17 18:34:37 UTC I think the complexity of having the kernel at any other physical address is what has us do the staging/copying. It was a quick-n-dirty mechanism that avoided a lot of work and complexity -- which is ok if you don't know it's worth/needed to go through all that hassle. And I guess it looks like we now hit a case that warrants us to start looking at a real solution. As an example (for inspiration): For Itanium I had the kernel link against a fixed virtual address. The load= er built the VA-to-PA mapping based on where EFI allocated blobs of memory. The mapping was loaded/activated prior to booting the kernel and the loader gave the kernel all the information it needed to work with the mapping. This mak= es it possible to allocate memory before the VM system is up and running. Ultimately the mapping needs to be incorporated into the VM system and this= is where different CPU architectures have different challenges and solutions. Note that there are advantages to having the kernel link against a virtual address. In general it makes it easier to load or relocate the kernel anywh= ere and this enables a few capabilities that other OSes already have and then s= ome. There are also downsides. You may need to support a large VA range if you w= ant to support pre-loading CD-ROM images or run entirely form a memory disk tha= t's preloaded. A few GB of address space would be good to have. Anyway: It's probably time that to you restate this bug into an architectur= al (x86-specific for now) problem and have a discussion on the arch@ mailing l= ist. We need a more people involved to bring this to a closure. Good luck -------------------------------- --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=