From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 8 18:49:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from bastion2.act.csiro.au (bastion2.act.csiro.au [152.83.2.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB82F37B408 for ; Wed, 8 May 2002 18:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bastion2.act.csiro.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bastion2.act.csiro.au (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g491n6521770 for ; Thu, 9 May 2002 11:49:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from hermes.la.csiro.au (hermes.la.csiro.au [152.83.12.2]) by bastion2.act.csiro.au (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g491n5821761 for ; Thu, 9 May 2002 11:49:05 +1000 (EST) Received: by hermes.la.csiro.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 9 May 2002 11:49:04 +1000 Message-ID: <4ABEF4D887D40745B8D6804C2FFA939F1A75FF@hermes.la.csiro.au> From: Anthony.Wyatt@csiro.au To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It's not fun anymore. (Mike resigns from core) Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:48:59 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, A whole bunch of things went through my mind as I read this thread, and I was going to write an essay, but it sounds like there's already a lot of this going on, so I'll just summarise: * I work for a research organisation. * For researchers to be productive they must have as much flexibility as possible * Too much process, and no one researches anything, they only have time to rehash. * I see FreeBSD as a research project * It is full of researchers, pushing technology in new and exciting ways * It has no commercial drivers demanding a larger market share. I have no real insight into how FreeBSD runs, but it sounds like an over burdening processes has be installed. If this is the case, then I also suspect that there has been more processes built over the top of these, in hopes that they will address the problems they initially caused. 2c from a dedicated FreeBSDer, Anthony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message