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Date:      Sat, 6 Oct 2018 23:31:58 +0200
From:      Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Rene Ladan <rene@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r481072 - in head: accessibility/speech-dispatcher audio/festival-freebsoft-utils audio/libgpod audio/nuvolaplayer comms/libimobiledevice comms/libusbmuxd comms/py-libimobiledevice comm...
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On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 10:24:45PM +0200, Jan Beich wrote:
> Rene Ladan <rene@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>=20
> > Author: rene
> > Date: Mon Oct  1 21:43:17 2018
> > New Revision: 481072
> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/481072
> >
> > Log:
> >   Return avilla@'s ports to the pool after his commit bit got taken in =
for safekeeping.
>=20
> Did you ask approval before assigning maintainership to the respective te=
ams?

When we reset maintainership, we try to make sure ports don't get
dropped into the pool if they can, so that they can get the care they
need.  For example, p5- ports end up with perl@, py- ports end up with
python@.  If multimedia@ does not want those ports, just return them to
the pool.  portmgr@ looks at the bigger picture, we cannot spend 5
minutes researching each port to make sure they get assigned to the
right person, it looks multimedia-ish, it gets to multimedia.  If
multimedia is not there to handle multimedia related ports, the team
should say so so that they do not get assigned more ports like this.
(The team can also drop the ports it does not want to maintain.)

> I'm asking because some (e.g., multimedia@) are understaffed and adding m=
ore
> work to the few members left is going to eventually burn them out. Anothe=
r issue
> is you're adding unnecessary barriers for other contributors e.g., patches
> against those ports would likely have to wait for maintainer timeout and,=
 even
> then, few committers are actually courageous enough to apply timeout agai=
nst
> team vs. individual maintainer due to poor visibility of pending work in
> external repositories.
>=20
> Ditto during pawel@ ports release in r462871.
>
> > Modified: head/accessibility/speech-dispatcher/Makefile
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > --- head/accessibility/speech-dispatcher/Makefile	Mon Oct  1 21:37:14 2=
018	(r481071)
> > +++ head/accessibility/speech-dispatcher/Makefile	Mon Oct  1 21:43:17 2=
018	(r481072)
> > @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ PORTREVISION?=3D	0
> >  CATEGORIES?=3D	accessibility audio
> >  MASTER_SITES=3D	http://devel.freebsoft.org/pub/projects/speechd/
> > =20
> > -MAINTAINER=3D	avilla@FreeBSD.org
> > +MAINTAINER=3D	multimedia@FreeBSD.org
> >  COMMENT?=3D	Common interface to speech synthesis
>=20
> gnome@ would be a better place as this port is rarely used outside of DE.
> However, gnome@ appears to be understaffed as well.
>=20
> > Modified: head/multimedia/webvfx-qt5/Makefile
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > --- head/multimedia/webvfx-qt5/Makefile	Mon Oct  1 21:37:14 2018	(r4810=
71)
> > +++ head/multimedia/webvfx-qt5/Makefile	Mon Oct  1 21:43:17 2018	(r4810=
72)
> > @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ PORTREVISION=3D	4
> >  CATEGORIES=3D	multimedia
> >  PKGNAMESUFFIX=3D	-qt5
> > =20
> > -MAINTAINER=3D	avilla@FreeBSD.org
> > +MAINTAINER=3D	multimedia@FreeBSD.org
> >  COMMENT=3D	Video effects library based on HTML/QML
>=20
> Why not the same maintainer as multimedia/mlt? See WWW in pkg-descr.
>=20
>=20

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Mathieu Arnold

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