From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 00:31:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D1416A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:31:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D43F43D1D for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hoe-waa@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-66-8-191-104.hawaii.rr.com [66.8.191.104])j1C0VHuY024397; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:31:18 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Marella To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200502112325.j1BNPw201164@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <200502112325.j1BNPw201164@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:34:37 -1000 Message-Id: <1108168477.45718.19.camel@p4> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: kjelderg@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:31:24 -0000 On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ? > > I was beginning to suspect some such. > Maybe worse. > > ////jerry > Jerry and Eric If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on some of my previous posts. I thank you and I always enjoy reading your view points. This post is no exception but I happen to find Anthony's views on this subject both provocative and right on the money. We have all run into a problem with a printer, NIC, scanner that is "not supported" by FreeBSD because the vendor will not release the drivers or code needed to build a driver. The vendor could care less if our mascot is a daemon or Mount Fujiyama. The vendor looks at the bottom line. How much engineer/programmer time will it take and can I recover the investment. The vendor looks at the number of installed systems and the competition for his product and makes a _business_ decision. Anthony's point, and I agree, is that everything will grow when our OS is taken for its strengths. It is difficult to get to the point of our strengths when the Suits see a representation of what they perceive as; childish or anti-christ or cartoonish whether justified or not. First impressions are important. Robert P.S. I like beastie... but I like the OS much better!