From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 14:43:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752E616A4CE; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:43:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from voodoo.oberon.net (voodoo.oberon.net [212.118.165.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F176F43D54; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krion@voodoo.oberon.net) Received: from krion by voodoo.oberon.net with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DQ4nc-0006a7-1Y; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:43:00 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:43:00 +0200 From: Kirill Ponomarew To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20050425144259.GL91852@voodoo.oberon.net> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050424204611.072105a0@64.7.153.2> <20050425010242.GA44110@xor.obsecurity.org> <6.2.1.2.0.20050424210422.03d22990@64.7.153.2> <20050425014453.GA59981@xor.obsecurity.org> <426C6B1D.3040704@elischer.org> <20050425061459.GA33247@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050425062106.GB91852@voodoo.oberon.net> <426CF3DE.4000409@samsco.org> <20050425160146.4795fe1b.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> <426CF91A.8060907@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <426CF91A.8060907@samsco.org> X-NCC-Regid: de.oberon X-NIC-HDL: KP869-RIPE Keywords: 579279786 cc: current@freebsd.org cc: mike@sentex.net cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: julian@elischer.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: GCC 4.0 [Re: FreeBSD 6 is coming too fast] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:43:01 -0000 On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > Well, I'd caution against jumping into GCC 4.0 just because of the > claims of 25% speed improvement. That's about the single worst reason > to do it. But if you're interested in moving the technology forward, > I'd happily encourage you. The changed language constructs are the big > problem (extern struct foo bar[]; is no longer valid) since you not only > need to sweep the FreeBSD tree for them, you also need to sweep the > ports tree. I have mixed feeling on the value of GCC making sloppy > language extentions available for years and then suddenly revoking them, > and I know others that have been affected by 4.0 aren't terribly happy > either. Well. if we're going to import it, it should be tested on pointyhat first. IIRC Kris already run tests for some pre 4.0 versions. -Kirill