From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 9 9: 8:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dns.MexComUSA.NET (cm4094.cableco-op.com [208.138.40.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE0F15689 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@MexComUSA.net) Received: from MexComUSA.net (cm-208-138-47-186.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [208.138.47.186]) by dns.MexComUSA.NET (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA66170; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@MexComUSA.net) Message-ID: <3735B2EE.A0D14B2B@MexComUSA.net> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 09:08:14 -0700 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Farkas Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: duplicate file finder References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Farkas wrote: > I know this belongs in -questions, but I dont read that list, so... > > Does anyone know of a proggy that finds duplicate files? > > I searched the archives, and only came up with questions, no answers.. > > -- > I often use find with a -exec cksum {} ; with pipes to awk, sort and/or uniq depending on what I really want to do and how large the directory structure is. ed P.S. md5 would also work but is slower. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 9 9:46:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CE7157E4 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (backup.zippynet.iol.net.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA16033; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:46:36 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:46:35 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.zippynet.iol.net.au To: Edwin Culp Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: duplicate file finder In-Reply-To: <3735B2EE.A0D14B2B@MexComUSA.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 9 May 1999, Edwin Culp wrote: > Andy Farkas wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a proggy that finds duplicate files? > > > > I often use find with a -exec cksum {} ; with pipes to awk, sort and/or > uniq depending on what I really want to do and how large the directory > structure is. Yes, I've managed to put two one-liners together to get what I want: # find . -type f -exec md5 "{}" \; | awk '{printf "%s %s\n", $4, $2}' \ | sort > md5-list # find . -type f -exec md5 "{}" \; | awk '{print $4}' \ | sort | uniq -d | grep -f - md5-list > > ed > > P.S. md5 would also work but is slower. > -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 9 9:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F06E15B9F for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (backup.zippynet.iol.net.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA16086; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:53:56 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:53:56 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.zippynet.iol.net.au To: Edwin Culp Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: duplicate file finder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Yes, I've managed to put two one-liners together to get what I want: > > # find . -type f -exec md5 "{}" \; | awk '{printf "%s %s\n", $4, $2}' \ > | sort > md5-list > > # find . -type f -exec md5 "{}" \; | awk '{print $4}' \ > | sort | uniq -d | grep -f - md5-list Hmmm, I've changed the second line in the name of efficiency: # cat md5-list | awk '{print $1}' | uniq -d | grep -f - md5-list -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 9 15:46:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D84914C8E for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA005104755; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:32:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 14:32:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Andy Farkas Cc: Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: duplicate file finder In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 May 1999, Andy Farkas wrote: > Hmmm, I've changed the second line in the name of efficiency: > > # cat md5-list | awk '{print $1}' | uniq -d | grep -f - md5-list # awk '{print $1}' < md5-list | ... :> - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 9 19:14: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C58152B5 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shelton@granch.ru) Received: from granch.ru (1001@localhost.granch.ru [127.0.0.1]) by sentry.granch.ru (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06451 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:14:12 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from shelton@granch.ru) Message-ID: <373640F1.CF9D6317@granch.ru> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:14:10 +0700 From: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: Granch Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Backup programs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! Is anybody known programs for backing up hard disks to tape,magneto-optical disks, etc, Tell me a reference, please. And anybody known backup client for ARCServeIT backup server (stay in NT 4.0, has clients for all M$ products and commercial UNIXes)? -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 10 7:20:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (domi.saargate.de [212.88.132.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3CD15751 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA71762; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:58:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 06:58:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: "shelton@granch.ru" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup programs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 May 1999, shelton@granch.ru wrote: > Is anybody known programs for backing up hard disks to > tape,magneto-optical disks, etc, Tell me a reference, please. How about - tar - dump - Amanda (-> http://www.amanda.org) -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ "Wir brauchen jetzt aktuelle politische Lieder." - Nina Hagen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 10 18:31:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F41814C39 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:31:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA50616; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:31:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:31:02 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Kenn Martin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: configuring a ftp daemon to handle multiple domains. In-Reply-To: <19990501072807.A10538@infoteam.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 1 May 1999, Kenn Martin wrote: > On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 12:49:09PM +0200, Anders Hanssen wrote: > > > > I was wondering... Is it possible to set up a ftp daemon to host multiple > > domains (The way apache does with VirtualHost). I have a server hosting some > > webpages ( ex: www.my.domain and www.your.domain), It's no problem to set up > > a record for ftp.my.domain and ftp.your.domain in dns but they all point to > > the same directory... Hmmm... I want separated directories for each > > domain... Anyone done this? Any ideas? > > /usr/ports/net/proftpd Or simply read the man page for FreeBSD's ftpd. The functionality is already there. Use -D and -a flags. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 10 21:46:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99D7A158E1 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwc@sytex.net) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA26931; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:44:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199905110444.AAA26931@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: In Search of: Documentation Unison Unipower MPS 1500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:44:09 -0400 (EDT) From: rcramer@sytex.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 536 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello to the List, I have a Unison, Unipower MPS 1500, UPS that I need documentation for. I am not sure of the age of this system but I am guessing 3-4 years. I would pay for someone to make copies of the manuals and if you have the management software and would care to share I can provide you a address to FTP the software to. Thanks for any assistance. Regards, Dick -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 11 7:44: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [194.207.26.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71014E48 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from patras.areti.com (patras.areti.com [194.207.96.187]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with SMTP id PAA17336 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:45:05 +0100 Message-Id: <199905111445.PAA17336@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:47:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Auto responder. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm in urgent need of a decent auto responder. Doesn't need to be particulary advanced, just something simple. Should work via a .forward file in a users account. I've searched for "vacation" which I used before, but to no avail. TIA. N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)181-402-9689 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 11 7:58:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.fdt.net (yoda.fdt.net [209.212.128.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C50714F9F for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flaboy@gnv.fdt.net) Received: from localhost (flaboy@localhost) by yoda.fdt.net with ESMTP id KAA28768; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:58:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:58:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe X-Sender: flaboy@yoda.fdt.net To: "Nicholas J. Dear" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Auto responder. In-Reply-To: <199905111445.PAA17336@post.mail.areti.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's the one we use: This is in /usr/local/etc, and called vacation.filter (as noted int he .procmailrc file below) SHELL=/bin/sh # for other shells, this might need adjustment :0 Whc: vacation.lock # Perform a quick check to see if the mail was addressed to us * $^To:.*${LOGNAME} # Don't reply to daemons and mailinglists * !^FROM_DAEMON # Mail loops are evil * !^X-Loop: ${LOGNAME}@fdt\.net | formail -rD 8192 vacation.cache :0 ehc # if the name was not in the cache | (formail -rA"Precedence: junk" \ -A"X-Loop: $LOGNAME@fdt.net" -i"Subject: $LOGNAME is away"; \ cat $MAILDIR/vacation.msg ; \ cat $HOME/.signature 2>/dev/null\ ) | $SENDMAIL -oi -t And here's the .procmailrc that calls it: SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin: MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # You'd better make sure it exists LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail VERBOSE=no #VERBOSE=yes #test vacation #INCLUDERC=/usr/local/etc/vacation.filter of course uncomment it :) In your /mail directory, you need a file called vacation.msg where you put the notice anyone gets that writes to you. It also generates a vacation.cache file in /mail so that only one recepient per email address gets it. Delete this so the same person can get your reply over and over if that's what you want. You need to edit the vacation.filter file for your own domain to prevent mail loops, obviously the fdt entries should be replaced with your domain entries. Cheers! Joe Barnhart Network Administrator FDT.NET On Tue, 11 May 1999, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > Hi, > > I'm in urgent need of a decent auto responder. Doesn't need to be particulary > advanced, just something simple. Should work via a .forward file in a users > account. I've searched for "vacation" which I used before, but to no avail. > > TIA. > N. > -- > Nicholas J. Dear > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)181-402-9689 > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 11 13:11:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hostigos.otherwhen.com (mavery-gw.pernet.net [205.229.2.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F31214C3A for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:11:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mavery@mail.otherwhen.com) Received: from mail.otherwhen.com (mail.2.229.205.in-addr.arpa [205.229.2.19] (may be forged)) by hostigos.otherwhen.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20662 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:21:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199905112021.PAA20662@hostigos.otherwhen.com> Received: from PORKY/SpoolDir by mail.otherwhen.com (Mercury 1.44); 11 May 99 15:11:20 -0600 Received: from SpoolDir by PORKY (Mercury 1.44); 11 May 99 15:11:17 -0600 From: "Mike Avery" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:11:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: In Search of: Documentation Unison Unipower MPS 1500 Reply-To: mavery@mail.otherwhen.com In-reply-to: <199905110444.AAA26931@cscfx.sytex.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.10) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11 May 99, at 0:44, rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > I have a Unison, Unipower MPS 1500, UPS that I need documentation for. I > am not sure of the age of this system but I am guessing 3-4 years. I > would pay for someone to make copies of the manuals and if you have the > management software and would care to share I can provide you a address to > FTP the software to. It looks like TrippLite bought Unison. And that their PowerAlert software should handle the Unison UPS's. It's available in a large number of Unix flavors, though not a FreeBSD flavor. They do support Linux, so it is possible the AlertPage SW could work under emulation. Look at http://www.tripplite.com for more information. Mike ====================================================================== Mike Avery MAvery@mail.otherwhen.com (409)-842-2942 (work) ICQ: 16241692 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: My other car is *ALSO* a road hazard... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 11 14: 4:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E5E15D85 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22557; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:04:37 +0200 Message-Id: <199905112104.XAA22557@zed.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Auto responder. In-Reply-To: Message from "Nicholas J. Dear" of "Tue, 11 May 1999 15:47:26 BST." <199905111445.PAA17336@post.mail.areti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:04:37 +0200 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > > I'm in urgent need of a decent auto responder. Doesn't need to be particulary > advanced, just something simple. Should work via a .forward file in a users > account. I've searched for "vacation" which I used before, but to no avail. Vacation is in /usr/bin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 4:59:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rowdy.panther.net (rowdy.panther.net [209.197.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD91614FC3 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 04:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kward@panther.net) Received: from localhost (3322 bytes) by rowdy.panther.net (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #3) via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 06:52:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: kward@panther.net (Keith Ward) Subject: Re: Auto responder. To: flaboy@gnv.fdt.net (Joe) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 06:52:04 -0500 (CDT) Cc: ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Joe" at May 11, 99 10:58:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2799 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Along with checking for X-Loop, I would also recommend you check for the 'Precedence: bulk' header, some lists don't use the X-Loop convention, and bounce mail (ie, MAIL-DAEMON generated) will normally just use the Precedence header. Keith According to the writings of Joe > > Here's the one we use: > > This is in /usr/local/etc, and called vacation.filter (as noted int he > .procmailrc file below) > > SHELL=/bin/sh # for other shells, this might need adjustment > > :0 Whc: vacation.lock > # Perform a quick check to see if the mail was addressed to us > * $^To:.*${LOGNAME} > # Don't reply to daemons and mailinglists > * !^FROM_DAEMON > # Mail loops are evil > * !^X-Loop: ${LOGNAME}@fdt\.net > | formail -rD 8192 vacation.cache > > :0 ehc # if the name was not in the cache > | (formail -rA"Precedence: junk" \ > -A"X-Loop: $LOGNAME@fdt.net" -i"Subject: $LOGNAME is away"; \ > cat $MAILDIR/vacation.msg ; \ > cat $HOME/.signature 2>/dev/null\ > ) | $SENDMAIL -oi -t > > > And here's the .procmailrc that calls it: > > SHELL=/bin/sh > PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin: > MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # You'd better make sure it exists > LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log > SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail > VERBOSE=no > #VERBOSE=yes > > #test vacation > #INCLUDERC=/usr/local/etc/vacation.filter > > > of course uncomment it :) > > In your /mail directory, you need a file called vacation.msg where you put > the notice anyone gets that writes to you. > > It also generates a vacation.cache file in /mail so that only one > recepient per email address gets it. Delete this so the same person can > get your reply over and over if that's what you want. > > You need to edit the vacation.filter file for your own domain to prevent > mail loops, obviously the fdt entries should be replaced with your domain > entries. > > Cheers! > > Joe Barnhart > Network Administrator > FDT.NET > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm in urgent need of a decent auto responder. Doesn't need to be particulary > > advanced, just something simple. Should work via a .forward file in a users > > account. I've searched for "vacation" which I used before, but to no avail. > > > > TIA. > > N. > > -- > > Nicholas J. Dear > > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)181-402-9689 > > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Keith Ward N5OOD kward@Panther.net ...!rwsys!rowdy!kward =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 7:11:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C0314DCA for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@kawartha.com) Received: from kawartha.com (earth.kawartha.com [204.101.15.14]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26783 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37398CD2.F2C99D81@kawartha.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:14:42 -0400 From: OCD Support X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Alpha Support? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does FreeBSD natively support multiprocessor Alpha ES40 servers? Thanks, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 7:11:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from internetnewsnetwork.com (dt0a6nc0.san.rr.com [204.210.49.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65EC15D5C for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:11:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wevmaster@internetnewsnetwork.com) Received: from InternetNEWSNETwork.com [204.210.43.153] by internetnewsnetwork.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Wed, 12 May 99 07:14:41 -0700 Message-ID: <37398E6B.E3D2922B@InternetNEWSNETwork.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 07:21:31 -0700 From: WeVmaster@InternetNEWSNETwork.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-question@freebsd.org Subject: Simple Unix Shell Account Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am looking for a simple Unix Shell Account preferably outside the US. Can someone from this group assist me in finding such a Unix Shell Account ? I found a great list, but none outside the US. see: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/2183/uspl.html Thanks, Jeffery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 8:52: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from abused.com (abused.com [204.216.142.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211EE15281 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gvbmail@tns.net) Received: from gvb (gvb.tns.net [204.216.245.137]) by abused.com (8.9.3/I feel abused.) with SMTP id IAA70855 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990512085152.00b757e0@abused.com> X-Sender: gvbmail@mail.tns.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:51:57 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: GVB Subject: We are a growing ISP, need some advice! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there. I am a systems administrator for a small ISP in San Diego that is rapidly growing. We offer basically all ISP services including dialup, domain hosting, dedicated connections, etc. All of our servers are run off of FreeBSD. Mail server is a PentiumII 233 with 384 megs of RAM running UW SCSI hard drives. It is currently 2.2.8 with sendmail and Qpopper. Our web server is a PentiumII 266 with 384 megs of RAM running UW SCSI hard drives. It is currently 3.1 running Apache-ssl with Frontpage extensions. We have about 150 virtual domains running on the web server and about 800 dialin accounts + the mail from all the virtual domains running off of that one mail server. We are starting to see a definite need for a bigger server farm. My question is, what should my growth point be from here, how do I scale this thing to accomidate all the users and domains I am hosting, because we are noticing the hardware starting to slow, the mail server actually hits swap space, even with 384 megs of RAM in it. I have read up on doing round robin DNS with the Web Servers, but never really understood how the disks are synched up, does it run on NFS with one machine serving the content? How about scaling the mail servers? Where can I read up on setting up multiple mail/pop3 servers? What is the best solution to do this. Any help or refrences to books or URL's is GREATLY appriciated. Thanks again in advance. Gaylord Van Brocklin Terracom Inc. San Diego, CA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 9:11:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lusardi.com (mail.lusardi.com [207.215.158.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A7B151B7 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erinf@lusardi.com) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:07:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: Erin Fortenberry To: 'GVB' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: We are a growing ISP, need some advice! Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:06:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've seen a few different ways of doing it, the easiest maybe being the way pair.com does it, multiple boxes and more redundancy... Its just a thought. Erin mailto:kahn@unet.tm http://www.fortenberry.net Maybe the evil chain letter leprechauns will come into my apartment and sodomize me in my sleep for not continuing the chain... -----Original Message----- From: GVB [mailto:gvbmail@tns.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 8:52 AM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: We are a growing ISP, need some advice! Hi there. I am a systems administrator for a small ISP in San Diego that is rapidly growing. We offer basically all ISP services including dialup, domain hosting, dedicated connections, etc. All of our servers are run off of FreeBSD. Mail server is a PentiumII 233 with 384 megs of RAM running UW SCSI hard drives. It is currently 2.2.8 with sendmail and Qpopper. Our web server is a PentiumII 266 with 384 megs of RAM running UW SCSI hard drives. It is currently 3.1 running Apache-ssl with Frontpage extensions. We have about 150 virtual domains running on the web server and about 800 dialin accounts + the mail from all the virtual domains running off of that one mail server. We are starting to see a definite need for a bigger server farm. My question is, what should my growth point be from here, how do I scale this thing to accomidate all the users and domains I am hosting, because we are noticing the hardware starting to slow, the mail server actually hits swap space, even with 384 megs of RAM in it. I have read up on doing round robin DNS with the Web Servers, but never really understood how the disks are synched up, does it run on NFS with one machine serving the content? How about scaling the mail servers? Where can I read up on setting up multiple mail/pop3 servers? What is the best solution to do this. Any help or refrences to books or URL's is GREATLY appriciated. Thanks again in advance. Gaylord Van Brocklin Terracom Inc. San Diego, CA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 9:17:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [206.161.83.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809D0151B7; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from korvus@tasam.com) Received: from localhost (korvus@localhost) by tasam.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA10768; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:17:19 -0500 (EST) From: korvus To: WeVmaster@InternetNEWSNETwork.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-question@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Simple Unix Shell Account In-Reply-To: <37398E6B.E3D2922B@InternetNEWSNETwork.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why do you need it to be outside of the US? I know in the US, a friend of mine runs tasam.com which provides anonymous shell accounts and web hosting. Maybe they might have what you need? On Wed, 12 May 1999 WeVmaster@InternetNEWSNETwork.com wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a simple Unix Shell Account > preferably outside the US. > > Can someone from this group assist me in > finding such a Unix Shell Account ? > > I found a great list, but none outside the US. > see: > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/2183/uspl.html > > Thanks, Jeffery > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 9:56:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAB314CA3 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13608; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:56:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:56:27 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: GVB Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: We are a growing ISP, need some advice! Message-ID: <19990512115627.A12442@futuresouth.com> References: <4.1.19990512085152.00b757e0@abused.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990512085152.00b757e0@abused.com>; from GVB on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 08:51:57AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 08:51:57AM -0700, a little birdie told me that GVB remarked > > server farm. My question is, what should my growth point be from here, how > do I scale this thing to accomidate all the users and domains I am hosting, > because we are noticing the hardware starting to slow, the mail server > actually hits swap space, even with 384 megs of RAM in it. Uh... Your hardware is WELL over-spec'd for what you're doing. Going into swap is a perfectly normal and expected thing to do, no matter HOW much RAM you have. And you certainly don't need to consider a farm of servers just because you're tapping a little swap space. As a rough guess, your hardware will keep you quite happy until you increase in size approximately, oh, 10x, at which point you probably want to add another web server and split the domains across them, and put a good hardware RAID on the mail server, which should scale nicely through another 10x growth... -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller MF4839 http://www.over-yonder.net/ | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 13: 5:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.dnt.md (zeus.dnt.md [195.138.124.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D92714DC6 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sl@zeus.dnt.md) Received: from localhost (sl@localhost) by zeus.dnt.md (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA39006 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:02:59 GMT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:02:59 +0000 (GMT) From: slava To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: DNEWS problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am running 3.1-stable and I installed dnews-4.7k from ports. My ISP has opened access to his news server so that I can suck the groups I need. The problem is that when I run "tellnews" command I get a "Broken pipe" and exit. Nothing else seats in the logs. Anyone has a clue as what the problem might be? Am I missing something? thanks in advance veaceslav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 12 15:50:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E5E14C10 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA08447; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:50:09 -0400 Message-ID: <19990512185009.J25726@intrepid.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:50:09 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: GVB , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: We are a growing ISP, need some advice! References: <4.1.19990512085152.00b757e0@abused.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990512085152.00b757e0@abused.com>; from GVB on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 08:51:57AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 08:51:57AM -0700, GVB wrote: > > We have about 150 virtual domains running on the web server and about 800 > dialin accounts + the mail from all the virtual domains running off of that > one mail server. We are starting to see a definite need for a bigger > server farm. My question is, what should my growth point be from here, how > do I scale this thing to accomidate all the users and domains I am hosting, > because we are noticing the hardware starting to slow, the mail server > actually hits swap space, even with 384 megs of RAM in it. Web and Mail are both I/O intensive, so if you're seeing a slow down, it's begin IO bound. 150 virtual domains and 800 dialin accounts should be serviceable for a single computer. IMHO, the first thing you would want to do is to split the mail and Web onto different servers. In sizing the servers, don't scrimp on the IO. A fast, caching RAID controller with striped or mirrored partitions would do the trick. > > I have read up on doing round robin DNS with the Web Servers, but never > really understood how the disks are synched up, does it run on NFS with one > machine serving the content? > That's a big problem with round robin DNS. For the Web it works great for static pages where you can replicate the sites, but dynamic sites are a pain. Also, Round Robin DNS is only usually used for spreading the load or a heavily hit site -- one that needs more than one server. If your web server slows down, best to just move some of the sites to a new server. For mail, the standard way of doing it is over NFS, but you'll need a good NFS server. See http://www.earthlink.net/about/papers/mailarch.html for a description of Earthlinks architecture. If you're thinking about sharing NFS disks amongst multiple servers, you may want to look at switching to something like qmail that allows for hashed spool files, and Maildir format, which I've been told is a lot cleaner in terms of locking over NFS. That being said, I think with a well designed server, you should be able to handle, say, 15,000 user's mail pretty easily. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 13 14:25:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx01.iafrica.com.na (mx01.iafrica.com.na [196.31.227.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EC015006 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:25:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@iafrica.com.na) Received: from dup113-whk.iafrica.com.na ([196.20.4.216] helo=aptiva) by mx01.iafrica.com.na with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 10i2y8-0006gz-00; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:24:41 +0200 Message-ID: <373B4354.24F5@iafrica.com.na> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:25:40 +0200 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GVB Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: We are a growing ISP, need some advice! References: <4.1.19990512085152.00b757e0@abused.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org GVB wrote: > > Hi there. I am a systems administrator for a small ISP in San Diego that is > rapidly growing. We offer basically all ISP services including dialup, > domain hosting, dedicated connections, etc. All of our servers are run off > of FreeBSD. > > Mail server is a PentiumII 233 with 384 megs of RAM running UW SCSI hard > drives. It is currently 2.2.8 with sendmail and Qpopper. > Our web server is a PentiumII 266 with 384 megs of RAM running UW SCSI hard > drives. It is currently 3.1 running Apache-ssl with Frontpage extensions. > > We have about 150 virtual domains running on the web server and about 800 > dialin accounts + the mail from all the virtual domains running off of that > one mail server. We are starting to see a definite need for a bigger > server farm. My question is, what should my growth point be from here, how > do I scale this thing to accomidate all the users and domains I am hosting, > because we are noticing the hardware starting to slow, the mail server > actually hits swap space, even with 384 megs of RAM in it. Your mail server is sufficiant, do not need to change your hardware, change your software. Replacing qpopper with something more efficiant will make a big differance. There are also very good replacements for sendmail that are more efficiant. > I have read up on doing round robin DNS with the Web Servers, but never > really understood how the disks are synched up, does it run on NFS with one > machine serving the content? Much easier to move some of the virtual domains to different servers. > How about scaling the mail servers? Where can I read up on setting up > multiple mail/pop3 servers? What is the best solution to do this. The easiest thing to start with is to separate your smtp server(s) from your pop server. The rewrites for the mail to the "virtual domains" can be handled on the smtp server. You will still need smtp on your pop server to receive mail. Although I have been thinking about making the "local delivery" agent on the smtp server deliver across a TCP connection to a local delivery agent on the pop server. This together with a well writen multi-threaded pop deamon should allow for a significant increase in the number of supported connections on a single pop server. Any thoughts on these ideas? Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 13 14:44:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lusardi.com (mail.lusardi.com [207.215.158.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9198014D4E for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erinf@lusardi.com) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:40:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: Erin Fortenberry To: "'tim@iafrica.com.na'" , GVB Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: We are a growing ISP, need some advice! Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:40:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You (tim@iafrica.com.na) said: "Any thoughts on these ideas?" I tend to lean towards having multiple machines do a little bit of everything. It seems to me that this would keep the 'Jesus bolt' factor down. Once a machine gets somewhere between 200 to maybe 400 accounts on in with web, email and whatever else, then you go on to the next box. This way you get to stay out of that ultra-high-end parts market that can bring a small ISP to it knees, and stay with the cheaper, good running, easy to find hardware. Erin mailto:kahn@unet.tm http://www.fortenberry.net "Can i dial 1-255-255-255255 and make every phone in the world ring?" -- Tanuki -----Original Message----- From: Tim Priebe [mailto:tim@iafrica.com.na] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 2:26 PM To: GVB Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: We are a growing ISP, need some advice! GVB wrote: > > Hi there. I am a systems administrator for a small ISP in San Diego that is > rapidly growing. We offer basically all ISP services including dialup, > domain hosting, dedicated connections, etc. All of our servers are run off > of FreeBSD. > > Mail server is a PentiumII 233 with 384 megs of RAM running UW SCSI hard > drives. It is currently 2.2.8 with sendmail and Qpopper. > Our web server is a PentiumII 266 with 384 megs of RAM running UW SCSI hard > drives. It is currently 3.1 running Apache-ssl with Frontpage extensions. > > We have about 150 virtual domains running on the web server and about 800 > dialin accounts + the mail from all the virtual domains running off of that > one mail server. We are starting to see a definite need for a bigger > server farm. My question is, what should my growth point be from here, how > do I scale this thing to accomidate all the users and domains I am hosting, > because we are noticing the hardware starting to slow, the mail server > actually hits swap space, even with 384 megs of RAM in it. Your mail server is sufficiant, do not need to change your hardware, change your software. Replacing qpopper with something more efficiant will make a big differance. There are also very good replacements for sendmail that are more efficiant. > I have read up on doing round robin DNS with the Web Servers, but never > really understood how the disks are synched up, does it run on NFS with one > machine serving the content? Much easier to move some of the virtual domains to different servers. > How about scaling the mail servers? Where can I read up on setting up > multiple mail/pop3 servers? What is the best solution to do this. The easiest thing to start with is to separate your smtp server(s) from your pop server. The rewrites for the mail to the "virtual domains" can be handled on the smtp server. You will still need smtp on your pop server to receive mail. Although I have been thinking about making the "local delivery" agent on the smtp server deliver across a TCP connection to a local delivery agent on the pop server. This together with a well writen multi-threaded pop deamon should allow for a significant increase in the number of supported connections on a single pop server. Any thoughts on these ideas? Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 0:44:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (unknown [193.232.26.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7661515D for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrew.Karjagin@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru) Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru ([192.168.0.30]) by tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06578 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:42:02 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <373BD3C0.ACC35E3D@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:41:53 +0400 From: "Andrew A.Karjagin" Organization: Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ISP FreeBSD Subject: FTP CHROOT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D7B8AF7C650BA3C67CC8B960" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D7B8AF7C650BA3C67CC8B960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I want to config FTP access of my users to there Home directory's only and I try to do it by using /etc/ftpchroot file. It work but they can't see anything at his homedirs if they worked with file manager such as FAR or another file manager with FTP client module. How can I do it succesfully? I am using FreBSD 2.2.6 with standard FTP server, starting by inetd. User's shell is /usr/bin/false. Thank you for help. --------------D7B8AF7C650BA3C67CC8B960 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=koi8-r; name="Andrew.Karjagin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Andrew A.Karjagin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Andrew.Karjagin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Karjagin;Andrew x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://tdis.gctc.rssi.ru/~richi org:Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center adr:;;;Star Town;;;Russia version:2.1 email;internet:Andrew.Karjagin@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru x-mozilla-cpt:;-15056 fn:Andrew Karjagin end:vcard --------------D7B8AF7C650BA3C67CC8B960-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 2: 9:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621E9155E6 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 02:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (backup.zippynet.iol.net.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA11088; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:05:01 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:05:00 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.zippynet.iol.net.au To: "Andrew A.Karjagin" Cc: ISP FreeBSD Subject: Re: FTP CHROOT In-Reply-To: <373BD3C0.ACC35E3D@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=------------D7B8AF7C650BA3C67CC8B960 Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --------------D7B8AF7C650BA3C67CC8B960 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Fri, 14 May 1999, Andrew A.Karjagin wrote: > I want to config FTP access of my users to there Home directory's only > and I try to do it by using /etc/ftpchroot file. It work but they can't > see anything at his homedirs if they worked with file manager such as > FAR or another file manager with FTP client module. > How can I do it succesfully? man ftpd "If compiled with the INTERNAL_LS option, ftpd will have internal support for handling remote requests to list files, and will not execute /bin/ls in either a chrooted or non-chrooted environment. In this case, the ~/bin/ls executable need not be placed into the chrooted tree, nor need the ~/bin directory exist. This support may be added by making ftpd with the FTPD_INTERNAL_LS variable set either in /etc/make.conf or in the shell's environment." -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ --------------D7B8AF7C650BA3C67CC8B960 Content-Type: TEXT/X-VCARD; CHARSET=koi8-r; NAME="Andrew.Karjagin.vcf" Content-ID: Content-Description: Card for Andrew A.Karjagin Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="Andrew.Karjagin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Karjagin;Andrew x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://tdis.gctc.rssi.ru/~richi org:Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center adr:;;;Star Town;;;Russia version:2.1 email;internet:Andrew.Karjagin@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru x-mozilla-cpt:;-15056 fn:Andrew Karjagin end:vcard --------------D7B8AF7C650BA3C67CC8B960-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 2:18: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fw1.uk.boo.com (unknown [195.153.206.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F9115431 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 02:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by fw1.uk.boo.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07001; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:18:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fw1.uk.boo.com: scot owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:18:09 +0100 (BST) From: Scot Elliott X-Sender: scot@fw1.uk.boo.com To: "Andrew A.Karjagin" Cc: ISP FreeBSD Subject: Re: FTP CHROOT In-Reply-To: <373BD3C0.ACC35E3D@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Make sure this line is in your /etc/make.conf file: FTPD_INTERNAL_LS = yes ... and then recompile and install ftpd (either make world or just make ftpd). The reason it won't work without that is that ftpd will not be able to execute /bin/ls, and hense won't be able to produce directory listings. Scot. On Fri, 14 May 1999, Andrew A.Karjagin wrote: > Hello! > I want to config FTP access of my users to there Home directory's only > and I try to do it by using /etc/ftpchroot file. It work but they can't > see anything at his homedirs if they worked with file manager such as > FAR or another file manager with FTP client module. > How can I do it succesfully? > I am using FreBSD 2.2.6 with standard FTP server, starting by inetd. > User's shell is /usr/bin/false. > Thank you for help. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 3:28:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (unknown [193.232.26.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950F314C14 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 03:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrew.Karjagin@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru) Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru ([192.168.0.30]) by tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07064 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:24:43 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <373BF9E8.47246844@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:24:40 +0400 From: "Andrew A.Karjagin" Organization: Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ISP FreeBSD Subject: FTPCHROOT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5D152285B5AAF099599B28AC" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5D152285B5AAF099599B28AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for all! --------------5D152285B5AAF099599B28AC Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=koi8-r; name="Andrew.Karjagin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Andrew A.Karjagin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Andrew.Karjagin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Karjagin;Andrew x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://tdis.gctc.rssi.ru/~richi org:Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center adr:;;;Star Town;;;Russia version:2.1 email;internet:Andrew.Karjagin@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru x-mozilla-cpt:;-15056 fn:Andrew Karjagin end:vcard --------------5D152285B5AAF099599B28AC-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 7:34:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from techbsd.csw.net (techbsd.csw.net [209.136.201.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D35914E66 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@techbsd.csw.net) Received: (from lambert@localhost) by techbsd.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA06070 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:34:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:34:00 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Tech Support/Administration help desk software? Message-ID: <19990514093400.A6059@techbsd.csw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Are there any FBSD runnable helpdesk type applications? What I need is something that will allow my tech support department to issue a trouble ticket and follow it to completion. I know that a lot of customer problems must be slipping through the cracks now. I just have no way to measure the phenomenon. We could also use a group To-Do list and/or preventitive maintenance tool to assist the system administrators. I'm running out of room on my whiteboard. :-) Thanks, Scott Lambert CSW Net, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 7:55:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from brent.tccsweb.com (h139-142-234-31.cg.FiberONE.NET [139.142.234.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5E715531 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:55:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Received: from localhost (brentr@localhost) by brent.tccsweb.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA01458; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:52:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) X-Authentication-Warning: brent.tccsweb.com: brentr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:52:39 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brent L. Rector" To: Scott Lambert Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tech Support/Administration help desk software? In-Reply-To: <19990514093400.A6059@techbsd.csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Scott: I have recently implemented a package called Billmax here, although it is primarily an accounting package for ISP's it nicely handles call tracking, and service requests. Check out the demo of the package at http://www.billmax.com I hope you find it as useful as I do. Brent Rector ========================================================================= TCCSweb.com SOHOSTed.com - Purveyors of fine domain hosting services.. Brent L. Rector Phone: +1-403-270-3361 Fax: +1-403-283-0688 Powered by www.freebsd.org and lots of caffiene ========================================================================= On Fri, 14 May 1999, Scott Lambert wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any FBSD runnable helpdesk type applications? What I need is > something that will allow my tech support department to issue a trouble > ticket and follow it to completion. I know that a lot of customer problems > must be slipping through the cracks now. I just have no way to measure > the phenomenon. > > We could also use a group To-Do list and/or preventitive maintenance tool > to assist the system administrators. I'm running out of room on my > whiteboard. :-) > > Thanks, > Scott Lambert > CSW Net, Inc. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 8:33:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vanessa.eliuk.org (sec2d42.dial.uniserve.ca [204.244.165.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBB1154BD for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by vanessa.eliuk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00810; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:34:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cagey@vanessa.eliuk.org) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" To: Scott Lambert Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tech Support/Administration help desk software? In-Reply-To: <19990514093400.A6059@techbsd.csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 14 May 1999, Scott Lambert wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any FBSD runnable helpdesk type applications? What I need is > something that will allow my tech support department to issue a trouble > ticket and follow it to completion. I know that a lot of customer problems > must be slipping through the cracks now. I just have no way to measure > the phenomenon. > > We could also use a group To-Do list and/or preventitive maintenance tool > to assist the system administrators. I'm running out of room on my > whiteboard. :-) > > Thanks, > Scott Lambert > CSW Net, Inc. Formerly at Sunshine Net, we used a database system. We also had it tied into a secure web interface that also allowed for remote access, both through browser and Filemaker. This worked great on sick days :-) Probably would be an easy hack to put something together with postgresql. -- Regards, Kevin G. Eliuk Box 67, Granthams Landing, BC VON 1X0 (604)886-4040 Discover Rock Solid, Discover FreeBSD | http://www.FreeBSD.Org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 11:34:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293DF14D10 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:34:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA298471649; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:20:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:20:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Scott Lambert Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tech Support/Administration help desk software? In-Reply-To: <19990514093400.A6059@techbsd.csw.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 14 May 1999, Scott Lambert wrote: > Are there any FBSD runnable helpdesk type applications? What I need is > something that will allow my tech support department to issue a trouble > ticket and follow it to completion. I know that a lot of customer problems > must be slipping through the cracks now. I just have no way to measure > the phenomenon. > We could also use a group To-Do list and/or preventitive maintenance tool > to assist the system administrators. I'm running out of room on my > whiteboard. :-) Keystone - www.stonekeep.com (requires apache+php3) - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 13:59:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell01.prophetnetworks.net (shell01.prophetnetworks.net [38.194.117.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5121545A for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Received: from localhost (bvaughn@localhost) by shell01.prophetnetworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA86599 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:59:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Vaughn To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: public_ftp? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I was wondering if anyone has had experience giving users a public_html-type directory in fbsd, only having it for ftp. Ive thought of just symlinking from /usr/ftp/users/blah, but i think that permissions would not allow anonymous users to read the various directories. Any guidance would help! -biv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 15:58: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from netmug.org (netmug.org [204.188.144.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CA014E0B for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:58:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perl@netmug.org) Received: (from perl@localhost) by netmug.org (8.8.8/NetMUG_1.0.0) id PAA27030; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:56:48 -0700 From: Michael Haro To: Ben Vaughn Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: public_ftp? Message-ID: <19990514155648.A26992@netmug.netmug.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Ben Vaughn on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 03:59:21PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't tried it, but I think proftpd can do this. You might want to check out http://www.proftpd.org/ Michael On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 03:59:21PM -0500, Ben Vaughn wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if anyone has had experience giving users a > public_html-type directory in fbsd, only having it for ftp. Ive thought of > just symlinking from /usr/ftp/users/blah, but i think that permissions > would not allow anonymous users to read the various directories. Any > guidance would help! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 16:17:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blues.ghis.net (pppc1-54.eisa.net.au [203.166.251.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6483614FFF for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@blues.ghis.net) Received: (from jim@localhost) by blues.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00891; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:17:23 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:17:22 +1000 From: Jim Mock To: Ben Vaughn Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: public_ftp? Message-ID: <19990515091722.D347@blues.ghis.net> Reply-To: jim@blues.ghis.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 14 May 1999 at 15:59:21 -0500, Ben Vaughn wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if anyone has had experience giving users a > public_html-type directory in fbsd, only having it for ftp. Ive > thought of just symlinking from /usr/ftp/users/blah, but i think > that permissions would not allow anonymous users to read the various > directories. Any guidance would help! I'm doing this for some customers using wu-ftpd. It allows each virtual host to have it's own anonymous ftp directory (/home/username/public_ftp in my case. The configuration is done in /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess (which is installed when wu-ftpd is installed), and it should look something like this for each vhost.. # virtual hosts virtual aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd root /usr/home/username/public_ftp virtual aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd banner /usr/home/username/public_ftp/etc/ftpmotd virtual aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd logfile /usr/home/username/logs/ftp.log Where aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd is the ip address for that particular domain. Keep in mind that all three lines are needed for each vhost and that in my case, each vhost has it's own ip address. See http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/ for more info. Hope this helps.. -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - FreeBSD: http://advocacy.freebsd.org/ - jim@advocacy.FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 17:19:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from netmug.org (netmug.org [204.188.144.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94A714C2A for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:19:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perl@netmug.org) Received: (from perl@localhost) by netmug.org (8.8.8/NetMUG_1.0.0) id RAA29390; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:18:10 -0700 From: Michael Haro To: Jim Mock Cc: Ben Vaughn , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: public_ftp? Message-ID: <19990514171810.A29317@netmug.netmug.org> References: <19990515091722.D347@blues.ghis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990515091722.D347@blues.ghis.net>; from Jim Mock on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 09:17:22AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 09:17:22AM +1000, Jim Mock wrote: > > I'm doing this for some customers using wu-ftpd. It allows each > virtual host to have it's own anonymous ftp directory > (/home/username/public_ftp in my case. The configuration is done in > /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess (which is installed when wu-ftpd is > installed), and it should look something like this for each vhost.. Was the original question about doing virtual hosting (eg. ftp.mydomain.com) or doing something like apache's public_html stuff (eg. ftp://ftp.domain.com/~mylogin/mystuff) Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 14 18:55:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell01.prophetnetworks.net (shell01.prophetnetworks.net [38.194.117.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3111A15469 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Received: from localhost (bvaughn@localhost) by shell01.prophetnetworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA93449; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:55:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Vaughn To: Michael Haro Cc: Jim Mock , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: public_ftp? In-Reply-To: <19990514171810.A29317@netmug.netmug.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael- Like apache's public_html stuff. -biv On Fri, 14 May 1999, Michael Haro wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 09:17:22AM +1000, Jim Mock wrote: > > > > I'm doing this for some customers using wu-ftpd. It allows each > > virtual host to have it's own anonymous ftp directory > > (/home/username/public_ftp in my case. The configuration is done in > > /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess (which is installed when wu-ftpd is > > installed), and it should look something like this for each vhost.. > > Was the original question about doing virtual hosting (eg. ftp.mydomain.com) > or doing something like apache's public_html stuff > (eg. ftp://ftp.domain.com/~mylogin/mystuff) > > Michael > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 15 1: 1:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408A314C46 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:01:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11753 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:01:01 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.21) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma011751; Sat, 15 May 99 18:00:55 +1000 Received: by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 4A256772.002C0734 ; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:00:54 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA From: Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4A256772.002C0624.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:58:28 +1000 Subject: CANNOT FORK from DeleGate 5.9.1 + FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE + P166 + Squid Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, My employer is having trouble with DeleGate 5.9.1 (http://www.delegate.org. Using it with SSLeay to accept SSL) on a FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE machine. DeleGate trys to fork a copy of itself to handle each connection but it reports - persistently despite a 10 second sleep before retrying - fork failures. The host is a P166 with 128 MB RAM and 256 MB swap. It runs Apache and Squid 1.1.20. When the problem was occurring, top reported . no more than 30 MB of swap being used and no pageing out . no less than 80% of idle CPU time Also there were no obvious kernel distress calls. Temporarily stopping Squid did pacify DeleGate. Is it normal behaviour for fork to fail on what seems no more than a lightly loaded host? DeleGate runs as "nobody". Shoud I up the limits for nobody in /etc/login.conf ? Your suggestions about delaing with this would be greatfully received. Thank you, Yours sincerely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 15 10:23:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hera.webcom.com (hera.webcom.com [209.1.28.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF69154A1 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:22:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by hera.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA05217 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:22:58 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.47] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 34052755; Sat May 15 10:19 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <373DD794.15EF@echidna.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:22:44 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: info@boatbooks.com Subject: Redundant servers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I operate a colocated server (busy WWW, plus primary DNS and a small amount of mail) for some clients, and we have been thinking about how to assure (almost) uninterrupted service in the event of server failure. The problem is that if physical access is required (e.g., because of hardware failure), we may at times have difficulty achieving an acceptable repair time. There is also the issue of minimizing downtime during major upgrades. Since this machine takes online orders, downtime is directly translatable into dollars of income lost. The existing machine is a plain PII-400 with 512MB RAM and 18GB total non-RAID SCSI disk, and has been perfectly reliable to date. We could purchase a fancy "server-grade" machine with RAID, redundant power supplies, etc., but the fact is that there are still things that could fail, and we'd still have to go down for certain upgrades. Also, such a machine would be so expensive that having a spare would be out of the question at present. For less total cost, we can commit a machine identical to the existing server as a hot-standby, installed in the colo. So my first question is does anyone have opinions on this or alternative strategies for maximizing uptime, given that physical access to the server may be severely restricted? The second issue is how to actually run a hot standby, and effect a switch on failure of the primary. I would want the spare machine on the network, since it could be used for offloading some background tasks from the live machine, and also for backing up some critical data. My thought was to assign the spare a separate primary IP address, and have only that address active under normal circumstances. If it became necessary to switch over from the live server, we would somehow take the live server off the network (by software, remote power-down or physical disconnection), and then run a script on the spare to ifconfig the 50 or so IP alias addresses that the operational server answers to for DNS, mail and WWW traffic. Maybe this could be automated based on monitoring the primary machine. The other issue is how to make sure the spare machine is basically a mirror of the primary machine. -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 15 18:11:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAC514FFA for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (backup.zippynet.iol.net.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17687; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:10:45 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:10:44 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.zippynet.iol.net.au To: Graeme Tait Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, info@boatbooks.com Subject: Re: Redundant servers In-Reply-To: <373DD794.15EF@echidna.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How about: http://www.coyotepoint.com/freequalizer.shtml On Sat, 15 May 1999, Graeme Tait wrote: > I operate a colocated server (busy WWW, plus primary DNS and a small > amount of mail) for some clients, and we have been thinking about how to > assure (almost) uninterrupted service in the event of server failure. The > problem is that if physical access is required (e.g., because of hardware > failure), we may at times have difficulty achieving an acceptable repair > time. There is also the issue of minimizing downtime during major > upgrades. Since this machine takes online orders, downtime is directly > translatable into dollars of income lost. > > The existing machine is a plain PII-400 with 512MB RAM and 18GB total > non-RAID SCSI disk, and has been perfectly reliable to date. We could > purchase a fancy "server-grade" machine with RAID, redundant power > supplies, etc., but the fact is that there are still things that could > fail, and we'd still have to go down for certain upgrades. Also, such a > machine would be so expensive that having a spare would be out of the > question at present. > > For less total cost, we can commit a machine identical to the existing > server as a hot-standby, installed in the colo. So my first question is > does anyone have opinions on this or alternative strategies for > maximizing uptime, given that physical access to the server may be > severely restricted? > > > The second issue is how to actually run a hot standby, and effect a > switch on failure of the primary. > > I would want the spare machine on the network, since it could be used for > offloading some background tasks from the live machine, and also for > backing up some critical data. > > My thought was to assign the spare a separate primary IP address, and > have only that address active under normal circumstances. If it became > necessary to switch over from the live server, we would somehow take the > live server off the network (by software, remote power-down or physical > disconnection), and then run a script on the spare to ifconfig the 50 or > so IP alias addresses that the operational server answers to for DNS, > mail and WWW traffic. Maybe this could be automated based on monitoring > the primary machine. > > The other issue is how to make sure the spare machine is basically a > mirror of the primary machine. > > > -- > Graeme Tait - Echidna > -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 16 0:30: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bluerose.windmoon.nu (c66498-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.123.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C31E14F4B for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fengyue@bluerose.windmoon.nu) Received: from localhost (fengyue@localhost) by bluerose.windmoon.nu (Windmoon-Patched/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03508 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:33:29 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-9550?B?o8C359TCv82jwA==?= To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.*-stable kernel with -O2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone compiled the 3.*-stable kernel with O2 and uses it on a production server? Is it being stable enough? How about the performance, is it a big gain or it simply doesn't worth it? Also, could someone recommend a RAID controller card for FreeBSD 3.*-stable? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 16 2: 0: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [194.77.0.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CEA15264 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 02:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08696; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:00:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA82864; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:47:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:47:45 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: xiyuan qian Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why the file size becomes so large? Message-ID: <19990516104742.A74673@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <199905040905.RAA16153@dns.hgs.com.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905040905.RAA16153@dns.hgs.com.cn>; from xiyuan qian on Tue, May 04, 1999 at 05:05:57PM +0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 05:05:57PM +0800, xiyuan qian wrote: > > Hi, today I suddenly noticed that a file locates at /usr/local/program/data dir > its size becomes 11235678909 large. Why? This file is wrote by a running prog. > What's the reason? lsof from the ports collection can be used to determine, which process opened the file just in case you don't know which application is causing this. And the question why the file size becomes so large sounds a little bit silly to me. Perhaps the application simply writes so much data ?! Or you started the application with extra verbosity, just in case it is a logfile. Or you enabled debugging ... Hell ... you tell so few things about the surroundings, content of the file ... go figure yourself ... -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 16 9:53:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (loviatar.webcom.com [209.1.28.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707EE14CE2 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:53:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA12388; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:53:15 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.30] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 27782045; Sun May 16 09:49 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <373F2214.6CE8@echidna.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:52:52 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Farkas Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, info@boatbooks.com Subject: Re: Redundant servers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Farkas wrote: > > How about: > > http://www.coyotepoint.com/freequalizer.shtml > > On Sat, 15 May 1999, Graeme Tait wrote: > > > I operate a colocated server (busy WWW, plus primary DNS and a small > > amount of mail) for some clients, and we have been thinking about how to > > assure (almost) uninterrupted service in the event of server failure. The > > problem is that if physical access is required (e.g., because of hardware > > failure), we may at times have difficulty achieving an acceptable repair > > time. There is also the issue of minimizing downtime during major > > upgrades. Since this machine takes online orders, downtime is directly > > translatable into dollars of income lost. Thanks for the heads-up. I will be checking this out. But my problem with such a solution is that it replaces one single-point failure possibility by another (the equalizer box). -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 16 10:40:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Raccoon.ChipChat.com (Raccoon.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA66514E40 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com (Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.146]) by Raccoon.ChipChat.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA43147; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:43:18 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.ChipChat.com [127.0.0.1]) by Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA80507; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:39:30 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) To: graeme@echidna.com Cc: andyf@speednet.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, info@boatbooks.com Subject: Re: Redundant servers In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 16 May 1999 12:52:52 -0700" <373F2214.6CE8@echidna.com> References: <373F2214.6CE8@echidna.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990516173930C.mrc@ChipChat.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:39:30 GMT From: Marty Cawthon X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 72 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting a message from 'graeme@echidna.com': > Andy Farkas wrote: >> How about: >> http://www.coyotepoint.com/freequalizer.shtml >> >> On Sat, 15 May 1999, Graeme Tait wrote: >>> I operate a colocated server (busy WWW, plus primary DNS and a small >>> amount of mail) for some clients, and we have been thinking about how to >>> assure (almost) uninterrupted service in the event of server failure. The >>> problem is that if physical access is required (e.g., because of hardware >>> failure), we may at times have difficulty achieving an acceptable repair >>> time. There is also the issue of minimizing downtime during major >>> upgrades. Since this machine takes online orders, downtime is directly >>> translatable into dollars of income lost. > > Thanks for the heads-up. I will be checking this out. > But my problem with such a solution is that it replaces one single-point failure > possibility by another (the equalizer box). > -- > Graeme Tait - Echidna We have servers in the USA and in Japan, which mirror each other. This provides redundancy and solves the problem of a server failure or a network failure. But how do clients know that a mirror exists? Today, they look at "www.ChipChat.com" or "www2.ChipChat.com", etc. They must know to request the URL of the mirror if the main server is not accessible. This is inconvenient for clients. A solution is possible, but not yet practical because client software (web browsers such as Netscape and MSIE) don't yet implement the experimental SRV DNS record. I quote from "DNS and BIND" 3rd Edition, by Paul Albitz & Cricket Liu O'Reilly Publishing ISBN 1-56592-512-2 page 408: --------------- "The experimental SRV record, introduced in RFC 2052, is a general mechanism for locating services. SRV also provides powerful features that allow domain administrators to distribute load and provide backup services, similar to the MX record." . . . "The SRV record has four resource record-specific fields: priority weight port target priority, weight, and port are unsigned 16-bit numbers (between 0 and 65535). target is a domain name. Priority works very similarly to the preference in an MX record: the lower the number in the priority field, the more desirable the associated target. When searching for the hosts offering a given service, clients should try targets at the same priority before trying those at a higher priority value. Weight allows domain administrators to distribute load to multiple tagets. Clients should query targets at the same priority in proportion to their weight. ..." (page 409) "Unfortunately, we don't know of any clients that support the SRV record yet." ----- This SRV DNS record sounds like it will help to provide transparent redundancy for Web, FTP, etc in a similar manner to the way that email is now handled. To make it practical, we need client software (browsers) that support SRV. Marty Cawthon ChipChat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 16 12:15:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A4B14C22 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (2463 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:54:44 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:54:42 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Andreas Klemm Cc: xiyuan qian , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why the file size becomes so large? In-Reply-To: <19990516104742.A74673@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 05:05:57PM +0800, xiyuan qian wrote: > > > > Hi, today I suddenly noticed that a file locates at /usr/local/program/data dir > > its size becomes 11235678909 large. Why? This file is wrote by a running prog. > > What's the reason? > > lsof from the ports collection can be used to determine, which process > opened the file just in case you don't know which application is causing > this. lsof rocks! I had some stale ftpds holding /var/adm/wtmp open the other day and rm'd it after gzipping it. When the space didn't come back, I knew something had it open. lsof shows file size too! I owe someone a beer! > And the question why the file size becomes so large sounds a little > bit silly to me. Perhaps the application simply writes so much data ?! > Or you started the application with extra verbosity, just in case it > is a logfile. Or you enabled debugging ... Uh, it doesn't sould *that* silly... The size (11235GB or 11.2TB!) is *much* larger than the drives I use even if you count ccds. This could be wither filesystem corruption or a 'sparse' file (holes in data). I would recommend you fsck the filesys immediately. If that shows OK, do a 'du -k' on the file and see how much disk space it's *really* using. If your application ever does an lseek() and write() (or fprintf()), one wrong offset and you can generate a *huge* sparse file - much larger than the disk. You just can't edit it, back it up (other than dump), or really fill it in. As Andreas said, if you can give us more context, we would be able to help you more. What created it, how big is the filesys, 'du -k', etc... btw: Some X servers use a rather sparsee 256MB shared memory segment (for color mapping?) and run on less than that amount of VM. Weird... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 16 17:27:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2647414C8A for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11373; Mon, 17 May 1999 02:27:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 02:27:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Bob Fayne Cc: "Scot W. Hetzel" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VPN betwwen Windows 9x Clients and FreeBSD Firewall In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990427201132.00a47cd0@dnsdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Bob Fayne wrote: > At 05:40 PM 4/27/99, you wrote: > >I am looking for a firewall/VPN solution that will allow our company > >personnel to connect to the corporate network using there Win95 laptops and > >a Dynamic IP address from there ISP, when they are out traveling or working > >from home. > > Try the SKIP port. > > http://skip.incog.com. The 40-bit Win95 client is free, and 56/128 clients > are available from Sun. I've tried this but have not found a way for a win-client to access a network behind a nat-firewall. Any clues/step-by-step documents? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 2:39:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC2014BC9 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 02:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA68530; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:39:20 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <373FE2AD.AAA4AF9A@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:34:37 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Cawthon Cc: graeme@echidna.com, andyf@speednet.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, info@boatbooks.com Subject: Re: Redundant servers References: <373F2214.6CE8@echidna.com> <19990516173930C.mrc@ChipChat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > But how do clients know that a mirror exists? Either use a script on www.chipchat.com (list all A records on that DNS name) that works out the nearest server to the client IP address and issues a redirect to the nearest working mirror or simply have a homepage listing all mirrors with absolute hrefs to the content directory on a specific mirror. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 3: 6:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A59014BC9 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 03:06:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA56371; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:06:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Auto responder. References: <199905111445.PAA17336@post.mail.areti.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 May 1999 12:06:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Nicholas J. Dear"'s message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 15:47:26 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Nicholas J. Dear" writes: > I'm in urgent need of a decent auto responder. Doesn't need to be particulary > advanced, just something simple. Should work via a .forward file in a users > account. I've searched for "vacation" which I used before, but to no avail. des@des ~% uname -a FreeBSD des.follo.net 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: Wed May 12 17:34:21 CEST 1999 root@des.follo.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/DES i386 des@des ~% which vacation /usr/bin/vacation DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 11:54:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40DE14A2D for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from cygone (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA28932 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003701bea096$75bcd240$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: Subject: Command-line Adduser? Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:52:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello.. I was wondering if anyone on-list might have an adduser utility that can be used totally from the command line, like Linux's 'useradd'.. I've been searching for a little while today and haven't turned up anything. The perl script that comes with FreeBSD 3.1 seems to allow some arguments to be passed to it, but not all the needed ones to add a user from the command line.. I was going to try and hack something up really quick, but there isn't any sense in that if someone else already has.. Any help is greatly appreciated.. -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 12: 1:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113B61524A for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21054; Mon, 17 May 1999 20:01:10 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37406815.427C73D0@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:03:49 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mitch Vincent Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command-line Adduser? References: <003701bea096$75bcd240$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello.. I was wondering if anyone on-list might have > an adduser utility that can be used totally from the > command line, like Linux's 'useradd'.. I've been > searching for a little while today and haven't turned > up anything. You didn't try reading the "adduser" manpages properly then :) SEE ALSO chpass(1), finger(1), passwd(1), setlogin(2), yp(4), aliases(5), group(5), login.conf(5), passwd(5), shells(5), addgroup(8), pw(8), pwd_mkdb(8), rmgroup(8), rmuser(8), vipw(8) I think you will find what you need is in pw(8). Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 12:24:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B86915179 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@kawartha.com) Received: from kawartha.com (earth.kawartha.com [204.101.15.14]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA05930; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37406DC1.F7E66088@kawartha.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:28:01 -0400 From: OCD Support X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command-line Adduser? References: <003701bea096$75bcd240$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> <37406815.427C73D0@eclipse.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If this is of no help, let me know.. we have a quick perl script here I wrote quite some time ago to do this.. I could dig it up...:) We found the script worked better than other solutions.... just my two cents worth (not just because I wrote the simple script ) We were using adduser -batch but it's no longer supported in batch mode. Thanks, Paul Stewart Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Hello.. I was wondering if anyone on-list might have > > an adduser utility that can be used totally from the > > command line, like Linux's 'useradd'.. I've been > > searching for a little while today and haven't turned > > up anything. > > You didn't try reading the "adduser" manpages properly then :) > > SEE ALSO > chpass(1), finger(1), passwd(1), setlogin(2), yp(4), > aliases(5), group(5), login.conf(5), passwd(5), shells(5), > addgroup(8), pw(8), pwd_mkdb(8), rmgroup(8), rmuser(8), > vipw(8) > > I think you will find what you need is in pw(8). > > Stuart > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 12:34:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8124915179 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22811; Mon, 17 May 1999 20:34:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37406FD7.EA96EEC2@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:36:55 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OCD Support Cc: Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command-line Adduser? References: <003701bea096$75bcd240$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> <37406815.427C73D0@eclipse.net.uk> <37406DC1.F7E66088@kawartha.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If this is of no help, let me know.. we have a quick perl script > here I wrote quite some time ago to do this.. adduser is itself a perl script, it just uses 'pw' to do the work. that's probably why -batch just returns, "The -batch option is not supported anymore. Please use the pw(8) command line tool!" :-) Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 13: 0:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965CC14DFE for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:00:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11115 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA77090 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:00:12 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: adduser -batch in 3.1 Message-ID: <19990517130012.A76946@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-RELEASE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 12:58PM up 2 days, 13:34, 4 users, load averages: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In 2.2.x adduser had a batch switch. I looked in the man page on a 3.1 one server and noticed it is no longer there. With that said does someone have a script that gives me this functionality. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is it that when we talk to God we're said to be praying, but when God talks to us we're schizophrenic? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 13:15: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [194.207.26.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9679C152F0 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from patras.areti.com (patras.areti.com [194.207.96.187]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with SMTP id VAA08078 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:17:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199905172017.VAA08078@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:18:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Web Statistics break up program. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We currently use Analog to generate our stats, but now customers are asking for weekly, or monthly stats to be generated, rather that just one accumulative lot. Is there anyway to automatically break up the stats, and have them to put into its own html stats file. For example: April01-07-1999.html April08-14-1999.html etc etc. Also, something to delete logs after a certain period would be useful. I've looked at rotatelogs which comes with Apache, but it doesn't seem to do exactly what we need. TIA. N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)181-402-9689 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 13:28:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5517B1536E for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:28:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25392; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:27:57 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37407C69.97BAAE5C@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:30:33 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: <199905172017.VAA08078@post.mail.areti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Nicholas J. Dear" wrote: > > Hi, > > We currently use Analog to generate our stats, but now customers > are asking for weekly, or monthly stats to be generated, rather > that just one accumulative lot. Is there anyway to automatically > break up the stats, and have them to put into its own html stats > file. how about this for starters: TODAY=`date +%Y-%m-%d` THISMONTH=`date +%Y-%m` cd /usr/local/www/logs mv httpd-access.log httpd-access.log.$TODAY mv httpd-error.log httpd-error.log.$TODAY analog < httpd-access.log.$THISMONTH* > Also, something to delete logs after a certain period would If you rename them like above then it is a simple matter. Alternatively you can learn the syntax to find(1), which is probably a lot more useful in the long run but might require a few coffees and a printed copy of relevant docs if you've not used it before ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 16:23:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (mail1.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A48151CE for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:23:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wghicks@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (host-209-214-64-115.atl.bellsouth.net [209.214.64.115]) by mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18869; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wghicks (wghicks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA02705; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:25:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199905172325.TAA02705@bellsouth.net> To: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adduser -batch in 3.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 May 1999 13:00:12 PDT." <19990517130012.A76946@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:25:36 -0400 From: W Gerald Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ron, According to the script it says batch option is not supported anymore and recommends the use of 'pw' instead. Good Luck, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 17 17:32: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.com (troll.tinker.com [204.214.7.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEEF14D37 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carol@tinker.com) Received: by localhost (8.8.5/8.8.5) Received: by mail.tinker.com via smap (V2.0) id xma004127; Mon May 17 19:26:54 1999 Received: by localhost (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10115; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:27:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3740B3C5.947395D0@tinker.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:26:45 -0500 From: Carol Deihl Organization: Shrier and Deihl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: <199905172017.VAA08078@post.mail.areti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD already has the parts to do a nice job, just requires a little scripting to get it going. Here's what we do. I wrote a little perl script called /etc/rotatelogs that rotates the logs for our virtual domains just after midnight. It uses the "newsyslog" program to do this, which takes care of removing aged log files. (The script is below.) I leave the just-rotated access log un-gzipped, since the stats program will be looking at it soon. I use a separate newsyslog configuration file for each virtual domain, in case I want to do something special for a particular domain. Below I've included an example config file. The scripts assume that these config files are in a directory /etc/newsyslog.confs, named with the domain name. Then at slow times in the wee hours, I run other scripts that produce the daily, weekly, and monthly stats. After they're done, they gzip the log files. We use wusage for our stats, but I presume the principle would apply for analog. I've included our daily script below, as an example. The /etc/webstats.conf file that these scripts reference is just a file with domain names, one per line, to tell which domains to work on. That way you can easily stop the stats production for any particular domain. The rotatelogs script assumes that it's using a recent version of newsyslog, that takes a path to the pid file (the file that contains the process id of the web server daemon), so that it can notify the web server that the log file(s) moved out from underneath it. I know this version of newsyslog is in 2.2.8, but IIRC wasn't in 2.2.1; don't know when the change was made. Here's our /etc/crontab entries to cause this to happen: # rotate virtual server log files just after midnight to get nice stats 1 0 * * * root /etc/rotatelogs # produce the webstats after logs are rotated 30 0 * * * root /etc/webstats.daily # do weekly webstats on Sunday morning 1 7 * * 7 root /etc/webstats.weekly # do monthly webstats on the first 30 4 1 * * root /etc/webstats.monthly Here's an example newsyslog config file for the domain "mydomain.com". We keep two logs for each domain, the access log and the error log. Note the "Z" in the error log line - that tells newsyslog to gzip the file when it's done, since we don't need to access the error log file to produce stats. We keep 200 old log files, but you may choose less :-) Also note there are only two lines in the config file, but I've broken them apart for display here: /path-to-httpd-access-log-for-mydomain.com mydomainuser.group 664 200 * 1 - /path-to-httpd-pid-file-for-mydomain.com /path-to-httpd-error-log-for-mydomain.com mydomainuser.group 664 200 * 1 Z /path-to-httpd-pid-file-for-mydomain.com Here are the scripts (some details removed to make it easier to follow). #!/usr/bin/perl # # /etc/rotatelogs - rotate web logs # # run from crontab at 00:01 daily ######################################## $debug = 0; # 0 = really run, 1 = just print # Carol used to have a special newsyslog that read the path-to-pid-file, # but now this is in the standard one #$newsyslog="/usr/local/sbin/newsyslog"; $newsyslog="/usr/sbin/newsyslog"; open CONF, "/etc/webstats.conf"; # Read a config file to say which domains to rotate while ($dn = ) { chomp $dn; if ($dn =~ m/#/o) { next; # skip comments } if (not $dn) { next; # skip blank lines } $conffile = "/etc/newsyslog.confs/$dn"; if ($debug) { print "$newsyslog -f $conffile\n"; } else { # Run newsyslog to actually rotate the log files # example of this system call: # /usr/sbin/newsyslog -f /etc/newsyslog.confs/mydomain.com system "$newsyslog -f $conffile"; } } close CONF; exit 0; ####### end of /etc/rotatelogs #!/usr/bin/perl # # /etc/webstats.daily - produce daily web stats, zip the log # # run from crontab at 00:30 daily # Runs after logs have been rotated ######################################## $debug = 0; # 0 = really run, 1 = just print $wusage="/usr/local/bin/wusage"; $gzip="/usr/bin/gzip"; ($sec, $min, $hour, $mday, $mon, $year, $wday, $yday, $isdst) = localtime (time - 86400); $year = $year + 1900; $mon = $mon + 1; $enddate = "$mon/$mday/$year"; open CONF, "/etc/webstats.conf"; # Read a config file to say which domains to produce stats for while ($dn = ) { chomp $dn; if ($dn =~ m/#/o) { next; # skip comments } if (not $dn) { next; # skip blank lines } $logfile = "/path-to-log-files-for-$dn/httpd-access.log.0"; if ($debug) { print "cd /path-to-stats-conf-for-$dn\n"; print "$wusage -c ./daily.conf -e $enddate -l $logfile; $gzip $logfile\n"; } else { chdir "/path-to-stats-conf-for-$dn"; system "$wusage -c ./daily.conf -e $enddate -l $logfile; $gzip $logfile"; } } close CONF; exit 0; ######### end of /etc/webstats.daily "Nicholas J. Dear" wrote: > We currently use Analog to generate our stats, but now customers are asking > for weekly, or monthly stats to be generated, rather that just one accumulative > lot. Is there anyway to automatically break up the stats, and have them to put into > its own html stats file. > ... > Also, something to delete logs after a certain period would be useful. I've > looked at rotatelogs which comes with Apache, but it doesn't seem to do exactly > what we need. -- Carol Deihl - carol@tinker.com Shrier and Deihl - Unix Network Admin and Internet Software Development To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 5:10:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hecate.webcom.com (hecate.webcom.com [209.1.28.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3AB156FB for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 05:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by hecate.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA02034; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:09:52 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.54] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 34161951; Tue May 18 05:06 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <374182BA.6ED@echidna.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:09:46 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Carol Deihl Cc: ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: <199905172017.VAA08078@post.mail.areti.net> <3740B3C5.947395D0@tinker.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Carol Deihl wrote: > > FreeBSD already has the parts to do a nice job, just requires > a little scripting to get it going. Here's what we do. > > I wrote a little perl script called /etc/rotatelogs that > rotates the logs for our virtual domains just after midnight. > It uses the "newsyslog" program to do this, which takes care > of removing aged log files. (The script is below.) I leave the > just-rotated access log un-gzipped, since the stats program will > be looking at it soon. I use a separate newsyslog configuration > file for each virtual domain, in case I want to do something > special for a particular domain. Below I've included an > example config file. The scripts assume that these config files > are in a directory /etc/newsyslog.confs, named with the > domain name. Thanks for the detailed answer - this is most helpful. I was about to try to figure out how to do this sort of thing in a more automated way. A few questions: I'm not sure what web server you use, but it looks like (by default) you are having newsyslog issue it a SIGHUP after rotating each log. With Apache, as I understand it, that kills off all the Apache children abruptly, interrupting transfers in progress, and requiring it to restart from zero children. It also zeros out the server statistics. Interrupting transfers in progress is not a great idea for our server, as it's taking orders worldwide, and even though it's less busy in the wee hours (US time), it's not idle. Also, some files being downloaded are large, and we wouldn't want to interrupt those transfers unnecessarily. OTOH, if you use SIGUSR1 with Apache (http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/stopping.html), which lets existing transfers complete, there is now way of knowing when they will complete, although for the logging task you can readily wait an hour or two before using the file. The problem I see, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that newsyslog is going to change the mode/ownership of the log files right away, which will (depending on the new mode/ownership) prevent Apache from writing the files. The other problem in this case is that the rotated log may contain a few (possibly quite) delayed entries, which results in some disorder when you concatenate successive rotated logs for analysis. Also I notice you use mode 664 for the logs - wouldn't you normally want log files private to the owner (600)? The other thing that puzzled me is that you seem to have a server process for each domain (path-to-httpd-pid-file-for-mydomain.com) and that you list that after each log file. Doesn't that mean the server gets SIGHUP'd twice? In a typical situation with Apache, there would be one parent process (one PID to be signalled), but there could be many log files (for many virtual domains, say) being generated by this process. Does that mean SIGHUP'ping it as many times as there are log files? -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 6: 5:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663E315170 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:04:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA73137; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:04:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <374165EF.1BB22A14@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:06:55 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Fisher , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Fisher wrote: > I don't think that will work, as-is. I think that it is necessary > to send apache a signal to get it to rotate its logs. Very true, this will do the trick: kill -1 `cat /var/run/httpd.pid` Otherwise Apache will start writing at the same offset i.e. leave a load of blank space at the start of the new log file. I'm not sure whether this is written as a sparse file or not (if so it's not too much of a problem but the reported size might end up a little scary :) Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 6:20:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA93814E39 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:20:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@kawartha.com) Received: from kawartha.com (earth.kawartha.com [204.101.15.14]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA29505; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374169E9.A88CA4A3@kawartha.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:23:53 -0400 From: OCD Support X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, cygone@zoomnet.net Subject: Script For Adding Many Users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As a few of you were asking about my script, here it is... There is NO warranty of any kind on this script but as many of you will realize there isn't that much to it...:) open(input,"userlist"); while () { ($username,$password)=split(' ',$_,9999); system ("echo $password | pw useradd $username -h 0 -g users -s /bin/date"); } close(input); This will add users from a file that looks like this (filename is userlist): username password username2 password2 username3 password3 The user will belong to a group called users (-g) and a shell of /bin/date (-s) Please test this script before using to make sure it works on your system... I'm not liable for trashed password files etc...:) It works fine on our systems here and we use it every few months. We also use a Linux based version for some older machines there..... Thanks, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 6:51:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (loviatar.webcom.com [209.1.28.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB81E14A2D for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA17255; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:49:55 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.43] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 33542760; Tue May 18 06:46 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <37419A1F.5FD5@echidna.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:49:35 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Mike Fisher , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: <374165EF.1BB22A14@eclipse.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Mike Fisher wrote: > > I don't think that will work, as-is. I think that it is necessary > > to send apache a signal to get it to rotate its logs. > > Very true, this will do the trick: > > kill -1 `cat /var/run/httpd.pid` > > Otherwise Apache will start writing at the same offset > i.e. leave a load of blank space at the start of the new > log file. I'm not sure whether this is written as a > sparse file or not (if so it's not too much of a problem > but the reported size might end up a little scary :) I'm missing some context here as I didn't see the post from Mike Fisher, but the above is not what I observe, if you do say mv httpd-access.log httpd-access.log.$TODAY (within the one filesystem). Apache continues to append to the renamed file until signalled - it doesn't start a new file. I assume that what's happening here is that the inode number of the file is what counts, and the inode number is unchanged in the mv. If it started a new file after the mv, then presumably it could do that before the SIGHUP with a busy server. -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 7:14: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roble.com (roble.com [199.108.85.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00F914D19 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 07:13:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from roble2.roble.com (roble2.roble.com [199.108.85.52]) by roble.com (Roble1b) with SMTP id HAA28588 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 07:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:13:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis X-Sender: Roger Marquis Reply-To: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: <199905172017.VAA08078@post.mail.areti.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. #!/bin/sh - LOGDIR=/var/log ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} cp /dev/null $log done -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ > We currently use Analog to generate our stats, but now customers are asking > for weekly, or monthly stats to be generated, rather that just one accumulative > lot. Is there anyway to automatically break up the stats, and have them to put into > its own html stats file. > > For example: > > April01-07-1999.html > April08-14-1999.html > > etc etc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 8: 2:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx.calweb.com (mx.calweb.com [209.210.251.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9ED155DC for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdugaue@calweb.com) Received: from staff.calweb.com (rdugaue@staff.calweb.com [209.210.251.15]) by mx.calweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08515 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Du Gaue To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Apache log files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org While we're on the subject of log files... Has anyone wrote or hacked Apache to use the syslog facility? We're in the process of putting up 3 web servers behind a Foundry ServerIron box that will load balance and serve up the same website from 3 different boxes. However, we want to be able to somehow direct the logs of the Apache servers to syslog (or some other logger) so that we can keep a common logfile for all the domains in one place rather then having to worry about merging them all on a nightly basis. As we add more servers behind the Foundry this will become more critical. TIA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com President, CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 8:11:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [207.173.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE29156D5 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfesler@gigo.com) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [207.173.133.57]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B3B2F5; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:09:04 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Robert Du Gaue Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache log files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > While we're on the subject of log files... > > Has anyone wrote or hacked Apache to use the syslog facility? We're in the > process of putting up 3 web servers behind a Foundry ServerIron box that You can set the apache log to "| logger (options)" and logger will send it syslog. You might need to alter the log format to specify the web server name being hit, as well as parse it on the syslog host back to "common" format. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 8:35:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xenetserver.harz.de (xenetserver.harz.de [193.159.181.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CA814FED for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Matthias.Meyser@harz.de) Received: (from matthias@localhost) by xenetserver.harz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA09067; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:34:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990518173431.A9001@xenetserver.harz.de> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:34:31 +0200 From: Matthias Meyser To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache log files References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Robert Du Gaue on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 08:02:11AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 08:02:11AM -0700, Robert Du Gaue wrote: > Has anyone wrote or hacked Apache to use the syslog facility? We're in the Why hacking apache? Instead of specifying a file to log to in the apache.conf you can also specify a command to pipe the entries to. What about piping to "logger"? CU matthias -- \\ // N N EEE TTT Matthias Meyser, Meyser@harz.de \\ // eee NN N E T Gesellschaft fuer Informations- und \X/ e e N N N EE T Kommunikationssysteme mbH // \\ e ee N NN E T 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Burgstaetter Strasse 6 // \\ eeee N N EEE T Telefon: +49-5323-94018 Fax: +49-5323-94011 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 8:46:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.datasys.net (kiwi.hefty.org [209.119.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A832B15064 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ayan@kiwi.datasys.net) Received: (from ayan@localhost) by kiwi.datasys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02511 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:45:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ayan) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:45:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayan George Message-Id: <199905181545.LAA02511@kiwi.datasys.net> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache log files Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wonder how much of a perormance impact forking logger would have vs. using syslog(), especially on high traffic servers. [ Quoted message from Matthias Meyser, recieved May 18, 5:34pm.] > Why hacking apache? Instead of specifying a file to log to in the > apache.conf you can also specify a command to pipe the entries to. > > What about piping to "logger"? > [ End message from Matthias Meyser. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 8:57:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xenetserver.harz.de (xenetserver.harz.de [193.159.181.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C344D14CFF for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Matthias.Meyser@harz.de) Received: (from matthias@localhost) by xenetserver.harz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA09309; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:56:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990518175649.A9258@xenetserver.harz.de> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:56:49 +0200 From: Matthias Meyser To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache log files References: <199905181545.LAA02511@kiwi.datasys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199905181545.LAA02511@kiwi.datasys.net>; from Ayan George on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 11:45:57AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 11:45:57AM -0400, Ayan George wrote: > > I wonder how much of a perormance impact forking logger would > have vs. using syslog(), especially on high traffic servers. > As I understand the the "piped to" programm is only forked at startup and then all further logentries are piped to it. CU matthias -- \\ // N N EEE TTT Matthias Meyser, Meyser@harz.de \\ // eee NN N E T Gesellschaft fuer Informations- und \X/ e e N N N EE T Kommunikationssysteme mbH // \\ e ee N NN E T 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Burgstaetter Strasse 6 // \\ eeee N N EEE T Telefon: +49-5323-94018 Fax: +49-5323-94011 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 9: 1: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A7015106 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87919 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:00:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37418F3E.F36486E5@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:03:10 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache log files References: <199905181545.LAA02511@kiwi.datasys.net> <19990518175649.A9258@xenetserver.harz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthias Meyser wrote: > > > I wonder how much of a perormance impact forking logger would > > have vs. using syslog(), especially on high traffic servers. > > > As I understand the the "piped to" programm is only forked at startup > and then all further logentries are piped to it. Unless the child doesn't read it's pipe often enough in which case Apache will restart it (without restarting the server). This is detailed in Apache 1.3 release notes. Cheers Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 9:41:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fschulte3.hightek.com (unknown [212.60.129.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C8F15280 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fschulte@aconet.de) Received: from [212.60.129.50] (fschulte1.hightek.com [212.60.129.50]) by fschulte3.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06391 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:37:05 +0200 X-Sender: BK-fschulte@mail.hightek.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:41:51 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Frank Schulte Subject: sendmail 8.8.8 upgrade to 8.9.3 or higher Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello FreeBSD ISP List, i got two FreeBSD boxes at work (new work) but i have no working knowledge= about FreeBSD. Right now they work fine except SENDMAIL. I need new spam and relay features included in sendmail 8.9.3 or higher. I had a colleague in the past working with FreeBSD but he is not reachable= for me actually. I hope you can help me upgrading this FreeBSD boxes to a resent sendmail= with relay and spam filters. I can build a sendmail from the ports collection. But how can i upgrade the system sendmail in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail I can't find the needed Makefiles ! How can i perform a "World make" ? I don't know the right term jet (long ago= my colleague told me how). I'm very happy about any help. Best regards =46rank Schulte Aconet Gesellschaft f=FCr Netzwerkintegration mbH Vohwinkeler Str. 58 D-42329 Wuppertal (Germany) Tel.: 0049 202 7399 364 =46ax: 0049 202 7399 100 E-Mail: fschulte@hightek.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 9:52:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E998714F98 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (backup.zippynet.iol.net.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA24170; Wed, 19 May 1999 02:52:01 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 02:52:00 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.zippynet.iol.net.au To: Matthias Meyser Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache log files In-Reply-To: <19990518175649.A9258@xenetserver.harz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 May 1999, Matthias Meyser wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 11:45:57AM -0400, Ayan George wrote: > > > > I wonder how much of a perormance impact forking logger would > > have vs. using syslog(), especially on high traffic servers. > > > As I understand the the "piped to" programm is only forked at startup > and then all further logentries are piped to it. Yes, that is what happens. I am running about 60 virtual web servers here, each piping their separate logs through the 'rotatelogs' program supplied with apache, logging to the users' home directory. You will have to keep an eye on available FD's though, as each pipe also requires a shell. > > CU > matthias -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 10:23:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B52614EDB for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:23:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (backup.zippynet.iol.net.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA24284 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:23:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 03:23:15 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.zippynet.iol.net.au To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: suexec [was: Re: Apache log files] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 May 1999 jfesler@gigo.com wrote: > > While we're on the subject of log files... > > While we're on the subject of apache... :) I would like to share my experience of allowing users to run cgi scripts via the 'suexec' method supplied with apache (1.3.6). This allows you to have cgi scripts executed in the context of the userid, but it doesn't implement 'login.conf' resource limits associated with a user 'class'. I have patched suexec.c to do this - enjoy: --- suexec.c Sat Jan 2 06:05:35 1999 +++ /home/andyf/suexec.c Fri Mar 12 12:11:09 1999 @@ -75,6 +75,8 @@ #include #include #include +/* AAA: */ +#include #include @@ -249,6 +251,9 @@ char *cmd; /* command to be executed */ char cwd[AP_MAXPATH]; /* current working directory */ char dwd[AP_MAXPATH]; /* docroot working directory */ +/* AAA: */ + login_cap_t *lc; + struct passwd *pw; /* password entry holder */ struct group *gr; /* group entry holder */ struct stat dir_info; /* directory info holder */ @@ -374,6 +379,24 @@ log_err("cannot run as forbidden gid (%d/%s)\n", gid, cmd); exit(108); } + +/* AAA: */ + /* get user login class... + */ + if ((lc = login_getclassbyname(pw->pw_class, pw)) == NULL) { + log_err("failed to login_getclassbyname()\n"); + exit(109); + } + + /* set resource limits ... + */ + if ((setusercontext(lc, pw, uid, LOGIN_SETRESOURCES)) != 0) { + log_err("failed to setusercontext()\n"); + exit(109); + } + + login_close(lc); +/* :AAA */ /* * Change UID/GID here so that the following tests work over NFS. -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 10:25:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CCF151EF for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 1936"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FBX00DEBUW2QF@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA10556; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:21:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:21:26 -0400 From: jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu Subject: Re: Apache log files In-reply-to: ; from Robert Du Gaue on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 08:02:11AM -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-followup-to: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <19990518132126.D7964@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Operating-System: OSF1 alpha References: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 08:02:11AM -0700, Robert Du Gaue wrote: > Has anyone wrote or hacked Apache to use the syslog facility? We're in the > process of putting up 3 web servers behind a Foundry ServerIron box that > will load balance and serve up the same website from 3 different boxes. > However, we want to be able to somehow direct the logs of the Apache > servers to syslog (or some other logger) so that we can keep a common > logfile for all the domains in one place rather then having to worry about > merging them all on a nightly basis. As we add more servers behind the > Foundry this will become more critical. TIA For this type of situation, it might be worth looking into mod_log_mysql, or similar. Building Apache with this module allows you to log your activity to a central database. IMHO, it's easier to generate stats, etc. than keeping your logs in text form. I haven't investigated the load / performance aspect of logging to a database, however, so it might be better or worse than syslog in that respect. -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 11: 2:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fschulte3.hightek.com (unknown [212.60.129.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26FA14CBF for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fschulte@aconet.de) Received: from [212.60.129.50] (fschulte1.hightek.com [212.60.129.50]) by fschulte3.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07346; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:57:36 +0200 X-Sender: BK-fschulte@mail.hightek.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990518195921.A3074@dialla.com> References: ; from Frank Schulte on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 06:41:51PM +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:02:21 +0100 To: "Igor A. Karpov" From: Frank Schulte Subject: Re: sendmail 8.8.8 upgrade to 8.9.3 or higher Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Igor, can you tell my how can i fetch and bulid FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE on my two= boxes ? I know this is possiblr scince my colleague has done it. But i= don't know how. Best Regards =46rank Schulte >On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 06:41:51PM +0100, Frank Schulte wrote: >> Hello FreeBSD ISP List, > >Hi, > >>=20 >> I hope you can help me upgrading this FreeBSD boxes to a resent sendmail= with relay and spam filters. >>=20 >> I can build a sendmail from the ports collection. > >I'm never (don't know why, exactly :) building sendmail from ports >collection. It's fairy easy to dl it from its home, >http://www.sendmail.org and build it as any other software. It has >built-in possibility to be built for FreeBSD. > >>=20 >> But how can i upgrade the system sendmail in >>=20 >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail >>=20 >> I can't find the needed Makefiles ! >>=20 >> How can i perform a "World make" ? I don't know the right term jet (long= ago my colleague told me how). > >You shouldn't do this; you only have to uncomment in /etc/make.conf a >line > >#NO_SENDMAIL=3D true > >Then after every time you'll be 'making world' sendmail won't be >rebuilded. > > >Also I noticed today that FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE contains sendmail 8.9.3 >already. > >Hope it'll help. > >Regards, >--=20 >Igor A. Karpov phone: +380(44)573-8754 >System Administrator +380(44)254-2450 >"Reality is that which when you stop believing in it does not go away" >Philip Kindred Dick Aconet Gesellschaft f=FCr Netzwerkintegration mbH Vohwinkeler Str. 58 D-42329 Wuppertal (Germany) Tel.: 0049 202 7399 364 =46ax: 0049 202 7399 100 E-Mail: fschulte@hightek.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 11: 5:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6FA14BED for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@kawartha.com) Received: from kawartha.com (earth.kawartha.com [204.101.15.14]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09630 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3741ACBB.8B78EAB1@kawartha.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:08:59 -0400 From: OCD Support X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Mysql logging? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone just mentioned a few messages ago about an Apache module for logging log files to Mysql? Anyone know where to get this module and if there is any software to generate stats from the Mysql database? We use Analog but find that with 250 virtual hosts per server each with their own log files it's dragging at times..;) Thanks, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 11:24:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx.calweb.com (mx.calweb.com [209.210.251.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8423714D6D for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:24:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdugaue@calweb.com) Received: from staff.calweb.com (rdugaue@staff.calweb.com [209.210.251.15]) by mx.calweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13569 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:24:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Du Gaue To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache log files In-Reply-To: <199905181545.LAA02511@kiwi.datasys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the responses! Initially I wasn't aware of this ability within Apache. Here's what we'll be doing. Any ideas on how to make the logging efficient would be helpful. Here's crude drawing... WWW Request | | Foundry ServerIron (load balance/redundant) / | \ / | \ / | \ Farm1 Farm2 Farm3 File System: All WWW dirs are mounted to the Farm systems from a NetApps F720. The Foundry will take the request then select a web server that is most idle and sent the request to that. If a box dies, it is transparant. We have 2 Foundrys inline for redundancy there as well. About 800+ Virtual websites are served, each with their own logfile and stats directory. Best way to log to one facility? When logged to one place, do we then parse that file out to split up the log files again or is it practically to have hundreds of 'loggers' running to separate logfiles (I tend to think this would not be good). So most likely, the end result is to log to one syslog machine, then parse later? The my_sql solution is intriging as well, but it would ofcourse require us to select out specific domains essentially rebuilding a logfile for a specific domain. Performance, wouldn't be a big issue as we'll probably put the logfiles on a 4th machine and allow all the process to take place there and then move the results back to the webserver's filesystem. On Tue, 18 May 1999, Ayan George wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:45:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ayan George > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Apache log files > > > I wonder how much of a perormance impact forking logger would > have vs. using syslog(), especially on high traffic servers. > > [ Quoted message from Matthias Meyser, recieved May 18, 5:34pm.] > > > Why hacking apache? Instead of specifying a file to log to in the > > apache.conf you can also specify a command to pipe the entries to. > > > > What about piping to "logger"? > > > > [ End message from Matthias Meyser. ] > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com President, CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 11:31: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.gmx.net (mail2.gmx.net [194.221.183.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF63A14CC8 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:30:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oliver.thuns@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 31681 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 18:30:29 -0000 Received: from ppp-40.tnt03.hamburg.nikoma.de (HELO virt) (212.122.136.40) by mail2.gmx.net with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:30:29 -0000 From: ".Oliver_Thuns." To: "Marty Cawthon" Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:30:19 +0100 Reply-To: ".Oliver_Thuns." X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.00.1500) For Windows 95 (4.0.950) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Redundant servers Message-Id: <19990518183042.CF63A14CC8@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > We have servers in the USA and in Japan, which mirror each other. >This provides redundancy and solves the problem of a server failure >or a network failure. How do you mirror the servers (which software do you use)? Oliver -- I'm busily ignoring some thousand of implications I have determined to be irrelevant. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 12:11:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Raccoon.ChipChat.com (Raccoon.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFA514E7C for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com (Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.146]) by Raccoon.ChipChat.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA50788; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:13:49 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.ChipChat.com [127.0.0.1]) by Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA86398; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:09:21 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) To: oliver.thuns@gmx.de Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundant servers In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 18 May 1999 20:30:19 +0100" <199905181833.SAA50720@Raccoon.ChipChat.com> References: <199905181833.SAA50720@Raccoon.ChipChat.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990518190921G.mrc@ChipChat.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:09:21 GMT From: Marty Cawthon X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 14 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org oliver.thuns@gmx.de wrote: >mrc> We have servers in the USA and in Japan, which mirror each other. >mrc>This provides redundancy and solves the problem of a server failure >mrc>or a network failure. > > How do you mirror the servers (which software do you use)? "omi" /usr/ports/net/omi "cron" Marty Cawthon ChipChat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 14:40:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.com (troll.tinker.com [204.214.7.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7628B14C7F for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:39:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carol@tinker.com) Received: by localhost (8.8.5/8.8.5) Received: by mail.tinker.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008557; Tue May 18 16:34:59 1999 Received: by localhost (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06301; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:35:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3741DD06.CF1C48B4@tinker.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:35:02 -0500 From: Carol Deihl Organization: Shrier and Deihl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graeme Tait Cc: ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: <199905172017.VAA08078@post.mail.areti.net> <3740B3C5.947395D0@tinker.com> <374182BA.6ED@echidna.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Graeme, Graeme Tait wrote: > Thanks for the detailed answer - this is most helpful. Glad to help... > A few questions: > > I'm not sure what web server you use, but it looks like (by default) > you are having newsyslog issue it a SIGHUP after rotating each log. > With Apache, as I understand it, that kills off all the Apache > children abruptly, interrupting transfers in progress, and requiring > it to restart from zero children. It also zeros out the server > statistics. Interrupting transfers in progress is not a great idea > for our server, as it's taking orders worldwide, and even though it's > less busy in the wee hours (US time), it's not idle. Also, some files > being downloaded are large, and we wouldn't want to interrupt those > transfers unnecessarily. Good point. Yes, I use Apache. In our case, our domains generally don't transfer very large files, so the likelihood of interrupting a transfer is pretty small (the HUP executes very fast). For a client with a worldwide intranet, we actually rotate the logs on Friday at 4:00 pm, since that's the lowest usage time... > OTOH, if you use SIGUSR1 with Apache > (http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/stopping.html), which lets existing > transfers complete, there is now way of knowing when they will > complete, although for the logging task you can readily wait an hour > or two before using the file. The problem I see, and please correct > me if I'm wrong, is that newsyslog is going to change the > mode/ownership of the log files right away, which will (depending on > the new mode/ownership) prevent Apache from writing the files. The mode/ownership in my script just duplicates how the log files are setup anyway, so there isn't a change, so Apache could still keep writing them, I believe. I'll have to try the SIGUSR1 approach - I've been using Apache since before the USR1 approach was stable. > The > other problem in this case is that the rotated log may contain a few > (possibly quite) delayed entries, which results in some disorder when > you concatenate successive rotated logs for analysis. I presume this is true, but in our case we config wusage to look at the relevant log files, and it seems to figure out everything correctly. Since the logs aren't being processed in real time, you could also run sort on them, if analog requires them to be in time order. > Also I notice you use mode 664 for the logs - wouldn't you normally > want log files private to the owner (600)? > > The other thing that puzzled me is that you seem to have a server > process for each domain (path-to-httpd-pid-file-for-mydomain.com) and > that you list that after each log file. Doesn't that mean the server > gets SIGHUP'd twice? > > In a typical situation with Apache, there would be one parent process > (one PID to be signalled), but there could be many log files (for > many virtual domains, say) being generated by this process. Does that > mean SIGHUP'ping it as many times as there are log files? Oops, I forgot to mention that we run a separate server within a chroot'd area for each domain. Our original clients wanted more security than average, and this way one client can't affect another client's files at all, even with a buggy (or malicious cgi). So each parent server only gets HUP'd once. And the ownership of the log files isn't an issue for us. If you're using the Apache virtual domain directives and separate log files for each domain... hmmmm... seems like it wouldn't make sense to use SIGUSR1 after each rotate, but you could SIGHUP, with the problems you already mentioned. Sounds like just using one giant log file with SIGUSR1 might work in your case; then you'd (I presume) split the log file into separate domains before passing to the stats program. -- Carol Deihl - carol@tinker.com Shrier and Deihl - Unix Network Admin and Internet Software Development To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 15: 6: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from metva.com.au (metva.metva.com.au [202.0.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA1114C93 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enno.davids@metva.com.au) Received: (from enno@localhost) by metva.com.au id IAA24995; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:05:37 +1000 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <199905182205.IAA24995@metva.com.au> Subject: Re: sendmail 8.8.8 upgrade to 8.9.3 or higher In-Reply-To: from Frank Schulte at "May 18, 99 06:41:51 pm" To: fschulte@aconet.de (Frank Schulte) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:05:36 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | I need new spam and relay features included in sendmail 8.9.3 or higher. | | I had a colleague in the past working with FreeBSD but he is not reachable for me actually. | | I hope you can help me upgrading this FreeBSD boxes to a resent sendmail with relay and spam filters. You might want to take a look at smtpd. Its a lightweight SMTP receiver only program which sits in front of sendmail or any other mail transport/delivery agent and can do anti-spamming anti-relaying for you. It also means that your SMTP port no longer takes part in the sendmail-bug-of-the-month club. Best of all, you still use sendmail to send out mail (and hence don't need to reconfigure all that stuff) but you get the spam/relay control. smtpd also allows you to do a bunch of other things (like stopping mail to one user or one host or from one user of one host or not accepting mail from hosts where the DNS is at a known spammer network and so on). IMHO, well worth a look. Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 15:26:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEA015073 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:26:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09570; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:25:37 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Graeme Tait Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. Message-ID: <19990518172537.B1539@futuresouth.com> References: <374165EF.1BB22A14@eclipse.net.uk> <37419A1F.5FD5@echidna.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <37419A1F.5FD5@echidna.com>; from Graeme Tait on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:49:35AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:49:35AM -0700, a little birdie told me that Graeme Tait remarked > > mv httpd-access.log httpd-access.log.$TODAY > > (within the one filesystem). > > Apache continues to append to the renamed file until signalled - it > doesn't start a new file. > > I assume that what's happening here is that the inode number of the file > is what counts, and the inode number is unchanged in the mv. Actually, it's because Apache never closes the logfile, and the file descriptor it open()'d will point to that file wherever you mv it. A SIGHUP to Apache will make it close() and open() the logfile again, so if you move it out of the way and resignal it, it will DTRT. -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller MF4839 http://www.over-yonder.net/ | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 15:26:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861F714E74 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:26:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09611; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:26:22 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. Message-ID: <19990518172622.C1539@futuresouth.com> References: <199905172017.VAA08078@post.mail.areti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Roger Marquis on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 07:13:21AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 07:13:21AM -0700, a little birdie told me that Roger Marquis remarked > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. > > #!/bin/sh - > LOGDIR=/var/log > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > cp /dev/null $log > done Egads!! That's a pretty vicious race condition there, you'll lose records on busy servers. -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller MF4839 http://www.over-yonder.net/ | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 15:33:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aniwa.sky (p22-max8.wlg.ihug.co.nz [209.79.142.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7B315006 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:33:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from aniwa.sky (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aniwa.sky (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA09220; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:58:38 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199905181358.BAA09220@aniwa.sky> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Graeme Tait Cc: Carol Deihl , ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 May 1999 08:09:46 MST." <374182BA.6ED@echidna.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:58:38 +1200 From: Andrew McNaughton Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Graeme Tait wrote: > Carol Deihl wrote: > > > > FreeBSD already has the parts to do a nice job, just requires > > a little scripting to get it going. Here's what we do. > > > > I wrote a little perl script called /etc/rotatelogs that > > rotates the logs for our virtual domains just after midnight. > > It uses the "newsyslog" program to do this, which takes care > > of removing aged log files. (The script is below.) I leave the > > just-rotated access log un-gzipped, since the stats program will > > be looking at it soon. I use a separate newsyslog configuration > > file for each virtual domain, in case I want to do something > > special for a particular domain. Below I've included an > > example config file. The scripts assume that these config files > > are in a directory /etc/newsyslog.confs, named with the > > domain name. > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed answer - this is most helpful. I was about to > try to figure out how to do this sort of thing in a more automated > way. > > A few questions: > > I'm not sure what web server you use, but it looks like (by default) > you are having newsyslog issue it a SIGHUP after rotating each log. > With Apache, as I understand it, that kills off all the Apache > children abruptly, interrupting transfers in progress, and requiring > it to restart from zero children. It also zeros out the server > statistics. Interrupting transfers in progress is not a great idea > for our server, as it's taking orders worldwide, and even though it's > less busy in the wee hours (US time), it's not idle. Also, some files > being downloaded are large, and we wouldn't want to interrupt those > transfers unnecessarily. If you look amongst the binaries that come with Apache you'll find one called rotatelogs. Check out it's man page, and the stuff about it under the CustomLog directive in the Apache web pages. It allows you to rotate your log files without the need to restart your server. Alternatively You could substitute any other program into the CustomLog directive to handle the splitting and perhaps also compression of your logs. rotatelogs splits the log file each time the time in seconds from the epoch goes past a multiple of a number supplied as an argument. Unfortunately this means that if you split once per day, the split happens at mignight GMT not midnight local time. You'll need to either modify rotatelogs or cater to this in your log analysis script. Andrew McNaughton -- ----------- Andrew McNaughton andrew@squiz.co.nz http://www.newsroom.co.nz/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 15:47: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.datasys.net (kiwi.hefty.org [209.119.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EF015273 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ayan@kiwi.datasys.net) Received: (from ayan@localhost) by kiwi.datasys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA48633 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:46:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ayan) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:46:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayan George Message-Id: <199905182246.SAA48633@kiwi.datasys.net> X-Days-Left: 227 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: jail Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, Could someone point me to information about applications for the jail command? How does it differ from chroot? The man page isn't very helpful but the program seems like it might be useful. -ayan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 16:56:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CCC14FC5 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 2411"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FBY00G6JD4V71@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA04540; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:55:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:55:35 -0400 From: jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu Subject: Re: Mysql logging? In-reply-to: <3741ACBB.8B78EAB1@kawartha.com>; from OCD Support on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 02:08:59PM -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mail-followup-to: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: <19990518195535.A3755@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Operating-System: OSF1 alpha References: <3741ACBB.8B78EAB1@kawartha.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 02:08:59PM -0400, OCD Support wrote: > Someone just mentioned a few messages ago about an Apache module for > logging log files to Mysql? Anyone know where to get this module and if > there is any software to generate stats from the Mysql database? We use > Analog but find that with 250 virtual hosts per server each with their > own log files it's dragging at times..;) It's available off of www.mysql.net. Go to Downloads, and then Contributed Source. By Zeev Suraski. -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 18 19:59:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roble.com (roble.com [199.108.85.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967D2150C9 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from roble2.roble.com (roble2.roble.com [199.108.85.52]) by roble.com (Roble1b) with SMTP id TAA07180 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: <19990518172622.C1539@futuresouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. > > > > #!/bin/sh - > > LOGDIR=/var/log > > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs > > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` > > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do > > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > cp /dev/null $log > > done > > Egads!! > That's a pretty vicious race condition there, you'll lose records on busy > servers. In theory perhaps, in reality it doesn't. I've never seen this algorithm fail, even when used on log files that grow by several megabytes per day. -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 0:58:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mc1.mcnet.ch (mc1.mcnet.ch [193.5.163.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD7015408 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Benoit.Rossier@mcnet.ch) Received: from pc15.mcnet.ch (pc15.mcnet.ch [193.5.166.35]) by mc1.mcnet.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA26983 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:58:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990519095918.00a10f08@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> X-Sender: brossier@nocnoc.mcnet.ch X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) [F] Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:59:18 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benoit Rossier Subject: can't change user's password Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We can't change the password for some users. passwd says: root@myserver:~>passwd conseisw Changing local password for conseisw. New password: Retype new password: passwd: /etc/master.passwd: corrupted entry passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged root@myserver:~> This problem appears only with the last (maybe 200) users in master.passwd When I do vipw, I have no problems: /etc/pw.T26455: 4785 lines, 432470 characters. vipw: rebuilding the database... vipw: done root@myserver:~> We run FreeBSD 3.1. Thanks in advance for any tips :) Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 6:25: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71EB152E5 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02381; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:24:44 -0400 Message-ID: <19990519092444.A981@intrepid.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:24:44 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Benoit Rossier , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can't change user's password References: <3.0.1.32.19990519095918.00a10f08@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990519095918.00a10f08@nocnoc.mcnet.ch>; from Benoit Rossier on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:59:18AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:59:18AM +0200, Benoit Rossier wrote: > Hello, > > We can't change the password for some users. passwd says: > > root@myserver:~>passwd conseisw > Changing local password for conseisw. > New password: > Retype new password: > passwd: /etc/master.passwd: corrupted entry > passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged > root@myserver:~> > > This problem appears only with the last (maybe 200) users in master.passwd Go into master.passwd with your favorite editor and find the line that's giving you problems. Then rebuild the hashed database and the /etc/passwd file with pwd_mkdb(8). --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 7:17:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mc1.mcnet.ch (mc1.mcnet.ch [193.5.163.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF990154BC for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Benoit.Rossier@mcnet.ch) Received: from pc15.mcnet.ch (pc15.mcnet.ch [193.5.166.35]) by mc1.mcnet.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA54646; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990519161751.02f235d4@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> X-Sender: brossier@nocnoc.mcnet.ch X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) [F] Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:17:51 +0200 To: Mike Jenkins From: Benoit Rossier Subject: Re: can't change user's password Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199905191329.IAA05217@carp.gbr.epa.gov> References: <3.0.1.32.19990519095918.00a10f08@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Check the passwd file with "pwd_mkdb -C /etc/master.passwd". > > I have checked the passwd file with this command and there is no errors. It looks like a bug because the user who I can't change the password can do a login and use his mailbox and ftp. If I cut and paste the same line at the beginning of the master.passwd file, I can change the password !! Strange!! Next idea ... Thanks Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 7:45:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A13155AA for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA22993 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA00446 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:31:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199905191431.KAA00446@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: can't change user's password In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990519161751.02f235d4@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> from Benoit Rossier at "May 19, 1999 4:17:51 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:31:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Benoit Rossier recently said: > >Check the passwd file with "pwd_mkdb -C /etc/master.passwd". > > > I have checked the passwd file with this command and there is no > errors. It looks like a bug because the user who I can't change > the password can do a login and use his mailbox and ftp. > If I cut and paste the same line at the beginning of the master.passwd > file, I can change the password !! Ooh. Sometimes cut and paste can get you. Just a SWAG here, but check the entry or entries just before the non-login-able user. I've seen systems where blanks in password files kill you, as the system will think there is no further data past a certain entry. You didn't say how many people you have in the file, so maybe you hit up against a size limit, but I doubt that. -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 7:49:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D323415557 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA09122; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:48:18 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:48:18 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: Archie Cobbs Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Routed problems In-Reply-To: <199903302014.MAA35379@bubba.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, After upgrade to FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE routed hangs yet: May 19 11:39:01 xingu routed[105]: select: Invalid argument May 19 11:39:01 xingu /kernel: pid 105 (routed), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) Why is it happening? Thanks, Paulo. On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Paulo Fragoso writes: > > I'm running routed in my dial server machine (routed -h). After one day > > routed exit with core dump: > > > > Mar 29 21:04:40 xingu routed[106]: select: Invalid argument > > Mar 29 21:04:40 xingu /kernel: pid 106 (routed), uid 0: exited on signal 6 > > (core dumped) > > > > Why routed is exit this way? > > Probably because of the screwups in the timer code that cause > gettimeofday() to return ridiculous values. > > This has been fixed, so try upgrading. > > -Archie > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 16:18:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC4A1581A for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:18:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from jjsoft.com ([206.97.159.66]) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA23193 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:13:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37434659.1351D6E3@jjsoft.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:16:41 -0500 From: Jahanur R Subedar Organization: J & J Software Solutions,www.jjsoft.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Please help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Folks, I am using FreeBsd 2.7. I am having problem with the Sendmail. I can not to retrieve mail from remote pc. E-mail software can connect to the mail server. ping to the mailserver (mail.iguru.com) works fine. Please tell me something I am doing wrong. Jahanur To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 16:24: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (PacHell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C22515164 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA46352; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf) Message-ID: <19990519162358.B18096@TelcoSucks.org> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:23:58 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Jahanur R Subedar , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please help. Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <37434659.1351D6E3@jjsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <37434659.1351D6E3@jjsoft.com>; from Jahanur R Subedar on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 06:16:41PM -0500 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 06:16:41PM -0500, Jahanur R Subedar wrote: > Hi Folks, > I am using FreeBsd 2.7. > I am having problem with the Sendmail. > I can not to retrieve mail from remote pc. > E-mail software can connect to the mail server. > ping to the mailserver (mail.iguru.com) works fine. > Please tell me something I am doing wrong. Retrieve ? sounds like you have problems with POP and not sendmail. > > Jahanur > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 23: 2:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (s205m7.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1121517A for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA96253; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:01:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199905200601.XAA96253@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Routed problems In-Reply-To: from Paulo Fragoso at "May 19, 99 11:48:18 am" To: paulo@nlink.com.br (Paulo Fragoso) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paulo Fragoso writes: > After upgrade to FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE routed hangs yet: > > May 19 11:39:01 xingu routed[105]: select: Invalid argument > May 19 11:39:01 xingu /kernel: pid 105 (routed), uid 0: exited on signal 6 > (core dumped) > > Why is it happening? I have no idea.. :-( -Archie > On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: > > Paulo Fragoso writes: > > > I'm running routed in my dial server machine (routed -h). After one day > > > routed exit with core dump: > > > > > > Mar 29 21:04:40 xingu routed[106]: select: Invalid argument > > > Mar 29 21:04:40 xingu /kernel: pid 106 (routed), uid 0: exited on signal 6 > > > (core dumped) > > > > > > Why routed is exit this way? > > > > Probably because of the screwups in the timer code that cause > > gettimeofday() to return ridiculous values. > > > > This has been fixed, so try upgrading. ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 19 23:51:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23F914E7D for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:51:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA29163 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 01:51:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 01:51:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Lynch Reply-To: Jeff Lynch To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. > > > > > > #!/bin/sh - > > > LOGDIR=/var/log > > > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs > > > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` > > > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do > > > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > > cp /dev/null $log > > > done > > > > Egads!! > > That's a pretty vicious race condition there, you'll lose records on busy > > servers. > > In theory perhaps, in reality it doesn't. I've never seen this algorithm > fail, even when used on log files that grow by several megabytes per day. > > -- > Roger Marquis Briefly looking at the src for cp(1), it looks like you're both right. cp stats and then mmaps the file at that instant if < 8MB (extended to next multiple of page size) so appendages beyond that would be lost. For greater than 8MB it while(read)'s until EOF, no race. --jeff ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 4:29: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from di.nl (di.nl [194.134.3.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB9114EE5 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joep@di.nl) Received: (from joep@localhost) by di.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27027; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:28:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from joep) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:28:05 +0200 From: Joep Grooten To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: lambert@techbsd.csw.net Subject: Re: Tech Support/Administration help desk software? Message-ID: <19990520132805.A27002@di.nl> References: <19990514093400.A6059@techbsd.csw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990514093400.A6059@techbsd.csw.net>; from Scott Lambert on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 09:34:00AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 09:34:00AM -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: > Are there any FBSD runnable helpdesk type applications? What I need is > something that will allow my tech support department to issue a trouble > ticket and follow it to completion. I know that a lot of customer problems > must be slipping through the cracks now. I just have no way to measure > the phenomenon. Take a look at : http://www.di.nl/loggie/ It's work in progress, but it might suit your needs... It's a helpdesk support system which contains a ticketing system. Joep -- +----------+-----------------------------------------+ | \ / | Joep Grooten / Digital Intelligence | |---\\\\---| J.J. Allanstraat 222, Westzaan, Holland | | / \ | e-mail: joep@di.nl | +----------+-----------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 7:20:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mc1.mcnet.ch (mc1.mcnet.ch [193.5.163.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD6114C06 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Benoit.Rossier@mcnet.ch) Received: from pc15.mcnet.ch (pc15.mcnet.ch [193.5.166.35]) by mc1.mcnet.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19870; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990520160439.00c6f84c@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> X-Sender: brossier@nocnoc.mcnet.ch X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) [F] Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:04:39 +0200 To: Mike Jenkins From: Benoit Rossier Subject: Re: can't change user's password -- SOLVED Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199905191643.LAA05492@carp.gbr.epa.gov> References: <3.0.1.32.19990519161751.02f235d4@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for your reply! I found the fault. There was a blank line in the master.passwd file!! Everything is working now. Ben >> Strange!! Next idea ... > >egrep '[[:cntrl:]]' /etc/master.passwd >egrep '[^[:print:]]' /etc/master.passwd > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 7:59: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA48150AF for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:58:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from jjsoft.com ([206.97.159.66]) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA25656 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:58:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <374423FC.65A774B1@jjsoft.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:02:21 -0500 From: Jahanur R Subedar Organization: J & J Software Solutions,www.jjsoft.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HI, I need some help ver fast to catche a hacker. Here is the signature. bash-2.01$ ps -ax | grep sendmail 121 ?? Is 0:03.00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 (sendmail. 25508 ?? I 0:00.02 sendmail: server bnetnt1.buz.net [204.216.44.4] child 25509 ?? S 0:03.43 sendmail: JAA25509 bnetnt1.buz.net [204.216.44.4]: DA I need to know how can I catche this person and ban him. Please help me. Or what more do I need for evidence. Jahanur To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 8: 6:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C9B1510B for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (dean@localhost) by odyssey.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16957; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:04:33 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:04:33 +0800 (WST) From: Dean Hollister To: Jahanur R Subedar Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. In-Reply-To: <374423FC.65A774B1@jjsoft.com> Message-ID: X-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 May 1999, Jahanur R Subedar wrote: > I need some help ver fast to catche a hacker. > Here is the signature. > bash-2.01$ ps -ax | grep sendmail > 121 ?? Is 0:03.00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 > (sendmail. > 25508 ?? I 0:00.02 sendmail: server bnetnt1.buz.net > [204.216.44.4] child > 25509 ?? S 0:03.43 sendmail: JAA25509 bnetnt1.buz.net > [204.216.44.4]: DA > I need to know how can I catche this person and ban him. > Please help me. Or what more do I need for evidence. Go to http://www.sendmail.org/ There are some very good rules there for blocking spammers... d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 8:15:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lusardi.com (mail.lusardi.com [207.215.158.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15566152A2 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erinf@lusardi.com) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:10:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: Erin Fortenberry To: 'Jahanur R Subedar' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:10:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What version of sendmail? Does this person have an account on this system? I'd say first, block his access to your system with the firewall rules, then work out your sendmail problems. Get ahold of the people at bux.net: http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois/?STRING=buz.net and tell them what is going on. Normally the IPS are good about helping with this kind of thing. Erin mailto:kahn@unet.tm http://www.fortenberry.net "Can i dial 1-255-255-255255 and make every phone in the world ring?" -- Tanuki -----Original Message----- From: Jahanur R Subedar [mailto:jahanur@jjsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 8:02 AM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. HI, I need some help ver fast to catche a hacker. Here is the signature. bash-2.01$ ps -ax | grep sendmail 121 ?? Is 0:03.00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 (sendmail. 25508 ?? I 0:00.02 sendmail: server bnetnt1.buz.net [204.216.44.4] child 25509 ?? S 0:03.43 sendmail: JAA25509 bnetnt1.buz.net [204.216.44.4]: DA I need to know how can I catche this person and ban him. Please help me. Or what more do I need for evidence. Jahanur To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 8:15:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C732153DA for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA39212; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:14:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37442789.86123A5F@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:17:29 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jahanur R Subedar Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. References: <374423FC.65A774B1@jjsoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I need some help ver fast to catche a hacker. > 25508 ?? I 0:00.02 sendmail: server bnetnt1.buz.net [204.216.44.4] child If you don't already have ipfw compiled and installed this is a quick way of doing this. # route add 204.216.44.4 127.0.0.1 Next, upgrade sendmail to 8.9.3 and use the anti-relay rules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 8:20:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954E8152A2 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:20:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from jjsoft.com ([206.97.159.66]) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA25779; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:20:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37442907.E86D0659@jjsoft.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:23:52 -0500 From: Jahanur R Subedar Organization: J & J Software Solutions,www.jjsoft.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erin Fortenberry Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I called them and they are saying they dont nothing what is going on. at all. They told me that ip address is their mail servers IP address. And their System Admin is out on lunch. Buz.net told me that they have a antispamming policy. and asking me if can get the content of the e-mail being sent. How can I get the e-mail content. Please Help Jahanur Erin Fortenberry wrote: > What version of sendmail? Does this person have an account on this system? > I'd say first, block his access to your system with the firewall rules, then > work out your sendmail problems. Get ahold of the people at bux.net: > > http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois/?STRING=buz.net > > and tell them what is going on. Normally the IPS are good about helping with > this kind of thing. > > Erin > > mailto:kahn@unet.tm > http://www.fortenberry.net > > "Can i dial 1-255-255-255255 and make every phone in the world ring?" > > -- Tanuki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jahanur R Subedar [mailto:jahanur@jjsoft.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 8:02 AM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. > > HI, > I need some help ver fast to catche a hacker. > Here is the signature. > bash-2.01$ ps -ax | grep sendmail > 121 ?? Is 0:03.00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 > (sendmail. > 25508 ?? I 0:00.02 sendmail: server bnetnt1.buz.net > [204.216.44.4] child > 25509 ?? S 0:03.43 sendmail: JAA25509 bnetnt1.buz.net > [204.216.44.4]: DA > I need to know how can I catche this person and ban him. > Please help me. Or what more do I need for evidence. > > Jahanur > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 8:26:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889A214DC8 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:26:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from jjsoft.com ([206.97.159.66]) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA25806; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:25:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37442A4C.AA30B663@jjsoft.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:29:16 -0500 From: Jahanur R Subedar Organization: J & J Software Solutions,www.jjsoft.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erin Fortenberry Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How can I check to see what version it is. I looked at the sendmail.cf file and I found this version sendmail-8.9.0. And I do not have any outside users in this server. Erin Fortenberry wrote: > What version of sendmail? Does this person have an account on this system? > I'd say first, block his access to your system with the firewall rules, then > work out your sendmail problems. Get ahold of the people at bux.net: > > http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois/?STRING=buz.net > > and tell them what is going on. Normally the IPS are good about helping with > this kind of thing. > > Erin > > mailto:kahn@unet.tm > http://www.fortenberry.net > > "Can i dial 1-255-255-255255 and make every phone in the world ring?" > > -- Tanuki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jahanur R Subedar [mailto:jahanur@jjsoft.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 8:02 AM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. > > HI, > I need some help ver fast to catche a hacker. > Here is the signature. > bash-2.01$ ps -ax | grep sendmail > 121 ?? Is 0:03.00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 > (sendmail. > 25508 ?? I 0:00.02 sendmail: server bnetnt1.buz.net > [204.216.44.4] child > 25509 ?? S 0:03.43 sendmail: JAA25509 bnetnt1.buz.net > [204.216.44.4]: DA > I need to know how can I catche this person and ban him. > Please help me. Or what more do I need for evidence. > > Jahanur > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 8:49:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6D114D04 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:49:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (1647 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:42:55 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:42:48 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. > > #!/bin/sh - > LOGDIR=/var/log > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > cp /dev/null $log > done And on several of our servers will miss some events we need in the log. Any entries that fall between the two 'cp' commands get zapped. (btw: It would be better to move the 'chmod' after the second 'cp' to reduce this) These events will be gone forever and may represent billable or auditable content. beware... What is wrong with signalling the server once a day? Also, this makes a $DAY of something like 'May_1999' You might try: DAY=`date +"%d_%b_%Y"` or DAY=`date +"%Y_%m%b_%d"` which produce '20_May_1999' or '1999_05May_20'. I prefer the second as it sorts better in pure 'ls' form. Hope this helps - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 9:22:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roble.com (roble.com [199.108.85.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4463015011 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from roble2.roble.com (roble2.roble.com [199.108.85.52]) by roble.com (Roble1b) with SMTP id JAA25609 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > And on several of our servers will miss some events we need in the log. > Any entries that fall between the two 'cp' commands get zapped. (btw: It > would be better to move the 'chmod' after the second 'cp' to reduce this) > These events will be gone forever and may represent billable or auditable > content. beware... Sure, depending on system load you could lose a log entry between "cp logfile logfile.archive" and "cp /dev/null logfile" but you have to consider this in context. If you're running an extremely heavily loaded server i.e., millions of hits per day AND you absolutely must have every single log entry THEN you wouldn't use this method. But really, how many websites have meet of those requirements? As for race conditions this also has to be considered in context. In theory a race condition would only occur if httpd was writing data faster than cp could copy it. Unless the destination media couldn't accept data at the rate httpd was writing this would never happen. -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 9:35:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1338715238 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA12225 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA25863 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:21:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199905201521.LAA25863@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: 911 sombody using our sendmail server. In-Reply-To: <374423FC.65A774B1@jjsoft.com> from Jahanur R Subedar at "May 20, 1999 10: 2:21 am" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:21:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jahanur R Subedar recently said: > I need some help ver fast to catche a hacker. > Here is the signature. > bash-2.01$ ps -ax | grep sendmail > 121 ?? Is 0:03.00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 > (sendmail. > 25508 ?? I 0:00.02 sendmail: server bnetnt1.buz.net > [204.216.44.4] child > 25509 ?? S 0:03.43 sendmail: JAA25509 bnetnt1.buz.net > [204.216.44.4]: DA > I need to know how can I catche this person and ban him. > Please help me. Or what more do I need for evidence. I don't want to sound negative, but since you are on an ISP list, and the above information doesn't give _you_ a clue as to what to do, then you probably need someone to look over all your system. You do need to understand how things work if you wish to keep things runnning. ipw show that the address is in a netblock that belongs to Coral nslookup shows that the machine is bnetnt1.buz.net. whois shows the name and phone numbers of those responsible for those networks. The rest is up to you. -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 9:49:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491C014DF6 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:49:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (1807 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:30:21 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:30:21 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. > > > > > > #!/bin/sh - > > > LOGDIR=/var/log > > > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs > > > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` > > > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do > > > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > > cp /dev/null $log > > > done > > > > Egads!! > > That's a pretty vicious race condition there, you'll lose records on busy > > servers. > > In theory perhaps, in reality it doesn't. I've never seen this algorithm > fail, even when used on log files that grow by several megabytes per day. Since you would quietly lose just a few lines once-in-a-while during a low traffic period, how would you *know*? The server I'm most concerned about handles eCommerce for transportation. It has logs of about 40-50MB/day. This looks like a noticable race condition on most platforms. I would like to know why it doesn't happen if it doesn't. Sounds like I have some playing to do some evening. - Jy@ Wyatts law: The difference between theory and practise is larger in practise than in theory. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 10:28:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC44214D96 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:28:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA12598 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:28:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199905201728.MAA12598@zoe.iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:30:20 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Robert Hough Subject: Problem with daemons Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Trying to telnet into one machine, and I keep getting this error: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libwrap.so.7" not found Can someone tell me what is wrong here. I thought maybe it was a shared library that got lost, but the file is there. __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 11:49:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E70315467 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:49:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (3158 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:32:11 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:32:11 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > And on several of our servers will miss some events we need in the log. > > Any entries that fall between the two 'cp' commands get zapped. (btw: It > > would be better to move the 'chmod' after the second 'cp' to reduce this) > > These events will be gone forever and may represent billable or auditable > > content. beware... > > Sure, depending on system load you could lose a log entry between "cp > logfile logfile.archive" and "cp /dev/null logfile" but you have to > consider this in context. I am still missing what was bad about signalling the server and having it rorate the logfile? I am a bit anal-retentive about logs, I do not waht *any* missing lines. I like being able to tell customers and mgmt that we can guarantee nothing got missed. Many admins get logfile requests and like to handle them professionally with "Yes, I am sure all the data is there". Is there something 'better' about not signalling the server that is worth trading for a disclaimer? > As for race conditions this also has to be considered in context. In > theory a race condition would only occur if httpd was writing data faster > than cp could copy it. Unless the destination media couldn't accept data > at the rate httpd was writing this would never happen. I thought *several* (like 5 to 20) processes could be writing to the access file at the same time in the typical server. As they get connection information and log it they do so in append mode which is very fast. When 'cp' finishes reading the last bit of data from the access file, the window for dropped messages is opened. It then has to write that last buffer full, close the file, execute another uncached process, wait for it to chmod the file and return, start another executable (likely still in cache), open the file in 'create/trunc' mode. The window is then closed just before the access file is. The window is wider than that for JFS as directory updates cause odd timings, suggesting that this approach would be even riskier if ported to some other Unicies. That can be a lot of room. The window is there if the file is 200MB (our case) or 4MB (another case). The results of the cp (and chmod) are unchecked, so if your destination filespool is full (among other failure modes), this blindly does a 'cp /dev/null' over valid, unbacked-up data. You might consider something more like: cp -p $SRC $BACKUP && cp /dev/null $SRC chmod $440 $BACKUP if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then syslog-page-or-whatever fi Or you can just move them aside and signal. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 12:40: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A841567A for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA23716; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:39:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:39:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Lynch To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with daemons In-Reply-To: <199905201728.MAA12598@zoe.iserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 May 1999, Robert Hough wrote: > Trying to telnet into one machine, and I keep getting this error: > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libwrap.so.7" not found > > Can someone tell me what is wrong here. I thought maybe it was a shared > library that got lost, but the file is there. Not sure from this post if you're getting this locally from telnet client from the remote telnetd. In either case, run ldd telnet(d) to be sure. If you can locate libwrap, check it's perms, it may have been installed with the wrong mask. We saw this on FBSD3.1R with the apache-php3-mysql port. --jeff ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 12:47:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sozo.mauigateway.com (sozo.mauigateway.com [205.166.249.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46767156B6 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:47:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lierly@mauigateway.com) Received: from localhost (lierly@localhost) by sozo.mauigateway.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA05014 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:46:50 GMT (envelope-from lierly@mauigateway.com) X-Authentication-Warning: sozo.mauigateway.com: lierly owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:46:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Nathanael Lierly To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ifconfig_if0_alias? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aloha, I am working on getting a slew of ip's addressed to one interface on a FreeBSD 3.1-R box. Formerly on other boxes I have done this through useing the actuall ifconfig command in rc.local. I am trying to get the right sytax for enteringin rc.conf, I have seen the example in defaults/rc.conf. My question is this, does the aliasX have to ascend in exact order from 0 up with no breaks. If this is so it makes it auful hard for someone with alot of ip's. Thanks once more FreeBSD-ISP, Nathanael Lierly #"Mastery of UNIX, like mastery of language, offers real * Nathanael Lierly #freedom. The price of freedom is always dear, but there's no * Geek & Poet #substitute. Personally, I'd rather pay for my freedom than *************** #live in a bitmapped, pop-up-happy dungeon like NT" -- Thomas Scoville **** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 13: 4:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2158E14D94 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:04:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA18547 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:04:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199905202004.PAA18547@zoe.iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:06:37 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: Problem with daemons In-Reply-To: References: <199905201728.MAA12598@zoe.iserve.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Problem was solved, and thanks to Stuart for the help. Actually could have resolved the problem with a reboot. __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 13: 8:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A35150AF for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmartin@infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15660; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:08:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:08:13 -0400 From: Kenn Martin To: Nathanael Lierly Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? Message-ID: <19990520160813.A15580@infoteam.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Nathanael Lierly on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:46:50AM +0000 Organization: InfoTeam Corp, Lexington X-Phone: 1 606 335 7233 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:46:50AM +0000, Nathanael Lierly wrote: > Aloha, > > I am working on getting a slew of ip's addressed to one interface on a > FreeBSD 3.1-R box. Formerly on other boxes I have done this through useing > the actuall ifconfig command in rc.local. I am trying to get the right > sytax for enteringin rc.conf, I have seen the example in defaults/rc.conf. > > My question is this, does the aliasX have to ascend in exact order from 0 > up with no breaks. If this is so it makes it auful hard for someone with > alot of ip's. Yes, they must ascend in order with no breaks, thus I prefer a script method: ---8<--- calumet% cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/00.aliases.sh #!/bin/sh aliases1="3 4 5 6 7 8 9 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 151 152 153 155 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 166 167 168 169 172 173" aliases2="3 6 7 8 12" for h in $aliases1; do ifconfig fxp0 inet 207.246.84.$h netmask 255.255.255.255 alias done for h in $aliases2; do ifconfig fxp0 inet 207.246.85.$h netmask 255.255.255.255 alias done --->8--- kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 13:26:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFFE15090 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00106; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:25:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:25:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Lynch To: James Wyatt Cc: Roger Marquis , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 May 1999, James Wyatt wrote: > On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > > > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. > > > > > > > > #!/bin/sh - > > > > LOGDIR=/var/log > > > > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs > > > > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` > > > > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do > > > > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > > > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > > > cp /dev/null $log > > > > done > > > > > > Egads!! > > > That's a pretty vicious race condition there, you'll lose records on busy > > > servers. > > > > In theory perhaps, in reality it doesn't. I've never seen this algorithm > > fail, even when used on log files that grow by several megabytes per day. > > Since you would quietly lose just a few lines once-in-a-while during a low > traffic period, how would you *know*? The server I'm most concerned about > handles eCommerce for transportation. It has logs of about 40-50MB/day. > > This looks like a noticable race condition on most platforms. I would > like to know why it doesn't happen if it doesn't. Sounds like I have > some playing to do some evening. - Jy@ > Read my previous post :( If you run this daily, you are dealing with 40-50MB files. On FreeBSD, cp(1) mmaps the file with its size at the instant determined by stat, but only if <= 8MB. There is a little room for error due to rounding to the nearest multiple of the page size. If the file is greater than 8MB, it goes into a while(read) loop until EOF. No mmap, no fixed read of a specific number of bytes. Meanwhile, apache keeps appending to the log file's open descriptor, and while(read) keeps recieving data. As for the chown and cp /dev/null, that's probably too fast relative to web access terms to really matter. In summary, the race condition worsens as the file size grows up to 8MB. After passing 8MB in size, the race condition reduces to the delay for chmod to modify the file's inode and copy a single null. Look, I know it seems weird to have this 8MB thing happening, and it's there to improve performance without trashing the system with extremely large file sizes. Take a look, it's right there in /usr/src/bin/cp/utils.c, copy_file(){}. Again, this is unchanged on FreeBSD2.2.1 and 3.1R Take advantage of open source, RTFSC. --jeff ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 13:47:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roble.com (roble.com [199.108.85.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E5D154B4 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:47:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from roble2.roble.com (roble2.roble.com [199.108.85.52]) by roble.com (Roble1b) with SMTP id NAA01154 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:47:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? In-Reply-To: <19990520160813.A15580@infoteam.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > for h in $aliases1; do > ifconfig fxp0 inet 207.246.84.$h netmask 255.255.255.255 alias > done This will work assuming no deamons are expecting to listen on those interfaces before they are created. One place where you might see a problem is with inetd, named, or any_other_d configured in /etc/rc.conf when the ifconfig_aliases are defined in /etc/rc.local or /usr/local/etc/rc.d. I use rc.conf for IP aliases for this reason. Another problem with FreeBSD aliases is routing. For reasons which are not clear "ifconfig alias" doesn't automatically create a local route to the IP. With FreeBSD 2.2.8 and earlier at least this must be done manually: for h in $aliases1; do route add 207.246.84.$h 127.0.0.1 done -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 14: 2:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3B414CFE for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:02:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA38359; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:02:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:02:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. > > > > > > #!/bin/sh - > > > LOGDIR=/var/log > > > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs > > > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` > > > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do > > > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > > cp /dev/null $log > > > done > > > > Egads!! > > That's a pretty vicious race condition there, you'll lose records on busy > > servers. > > In theory perhaps, in reality it doesn't. I've never seen this algorithm > fail, even when used on log files that grow by several megabytes per day. > How do you know? How do you know if you are throwing some lines away which happened between you started copying, and you nulled the logfile? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 15: 8:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enterprise.ciai.net (enterprise.ciai.net [209.136.8.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0911519E for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from slipmat@ciai.net) Received: from ciai.net (houze.slipmat.net [209.136.8.226]) by enterprise.ciai.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23666 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:19:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <374489D9.22D9833D@ciai.net> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:16:57 -0500 From: Brian Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ISDN HeadAches Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My Fellow FbSD Hackers! I've been up for over 24 hours straight now trying to get this damn kernel to compile with the isdn4bsd jaunx in it. I've installed 3 different distributuions and get a different result with each, but it all ends in my kernel erroring out when it gets to that portion of compiling. Here is the last scenario I have set up here.... freshly installed Freebsd 3.0 19981103-SNAP then I unpacked the i4b into /usr/src and run the FreeBSD/install.sh, (also I edited /etc/make.conf as sugested) then cd .. and make depend;make;make install .... this all seems to go well, no complaints at all. Then I add this to muh kernel..... # USRobotics Sportster ISDN TA intern options "USR_STI" device isic0 at isa? port 0x340 net irq 5 flags 7 pseudo-device "i4bq921" pseudo-device "i4bq931" pseudo-device "i4b" pseudo-device "i4btrc" 4 pseudo-device "i4bctl" pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4 pseudo-device "i4btel" 2 pseudo-device "i4bipr" 4 options IPR_VJ pseudo-device "i4bisppp" 4 then I compile the kernel (which I've done hundreds of times) which in this instance returned with this error.... [root@houze:/usr/src/sys/compile/HOUZE]# make loading kernel i4b_isppp.o: Undefined symbol `_sppp_attach' referenced from text segment i4b_isppp.o: Undefined symbol `_sppp_ioctl' referenced from text segment i4b_isppp.o: Undefined symbol `_sppp_isempty' referenced from text segment i4b_isppp.o: Undefined symbol `_sppp_dequeue' referenced from text segment i4b_isppp.o: Undefined symbol `_sppp_isempty' referenced from text segment i4b_isppp.o: Undefined symbol `_sppp_dequeue' referenced from text segment i4b_isppp.o: Undefined symbol `_sppp_input' referenced from text segment ppc.o: Undefined symbol `_ppb_intr' referenced from text segment ppc.o: Undefined symbol `_ppb_alloc_bus' referenced from text segment ppc.o: Undefined symbol `_ppb_attachdevs' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. its much close than before, but no bones frankie =( So could anyone enlighten me here? thanks in advance Brian Sys Admin WNOnline.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 16:22:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hera.webcom.com (hera.webcom.com [209.1.28.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C4D1586C for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by hera.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA00387; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:22:11 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.23] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 27972773; Thu May 20 16:18 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <3744C34B.409E@echidna.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:22:03 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: James Wyatt Cc: Roger Marquis , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org James Wyatt wrote: > > On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. > > > > #!/bin/sh - > > LOGDIR=/var/log > > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs > > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` > > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do > > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} > > cp /dev/null $log > > done > > And on several of our servers will miss some events we need in the log. > Any entries that fall between the two 'cp' commands get zapped. (btw: It > would be better to move the 'chmod' after the second 'cp' to reduce this) > These events will be gone forever and may represent billable or auditable > content. beware... What is wrong with signalling the server once a day? A 'kill -1' causes Apache to immediately kill off all the server children, aborting transfers in progress - not too good for a busy commerce server. In addition, new children must be spawned, causing a hiatus of a few seconds (sometimes appreciably more) with incoming requests piling up until full performance is restored. A 'kill -1' also zeros out server statistics. Doing all this seems a bit silly just to rotate log files. The server I run almost never has a moment without at least several transfers in progress. Some are possibly of large files, and aborting those transfers is particularly annoying to users. But aborting a secure server transaction really looks bad, especially if the server state has been changed and the user fails to get the appropriate response (e.g., an order has been accepted, but no confirmation appears, just some "connection lost" type message). Also, what happens to CGI processes in progress? At the same time, I don't really like the way 'kill -USR1' works. Someone suggested using the Apache rotatelogs program, and I will be looking into that again (I had previously tried it, but was disatisfied with the limited flexibility, e.g., daily rotates occurring at around 00:00:00 UTC). With all the features and flexibility built into Apache, it seems disappointing that the log rotation issue doesn't seem to have been addressed better. -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 17:17: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from metva.com.au (metva.metva.com.au [202.0.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AF314DDF for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:16:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enno.davids@metva.com.au) Received: (from enno@localhost) by metva.com.au id KAA08044 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:16:30 +1000 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <199905210016.KAA08044@metva.com.au> Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: from Leif Neland at "May 20, 99 11:02:40 pm" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:16:29 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Various people have written: | > > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase | > > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. | > > > | > > > #!/bin/sh - | > > > LOGDIR=/var/log | > > > ARCDIR=/var/log/oldlogs | > > > DAY=`date | awk '{ OFS="_" ;print $2,$6}' ` | > > > for log in $LOGDIR/http* ; do | > > > cp $log $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} | > > > chmod 440 $ARCDIR/${log}.${DAY} | > > > cp /dev/null $log | > > > done | > > | > > Egads!! | > > That's a pretty vicious race condition there, you'll lose records on busy | > > servers. | > | > In theory perhaps, in reality it doesn't. I've never seen this algorithm | > fail, even when used on log files that grow by several megabytes per day. | > | How do you know? How do you know if you are throwing some lines away which | happened between you started copying, and you nulled the logfile? Guys, can we end this thread. The correct solution, is to 'mv' your logfile to another temporary name in the same filesystem, then null the real name & reset owners and permissions, then signal apache and then move the logfile away to the archived name. The initial move inside the same filesystem ensures that its out of the way when you create the nulled file, but being in the same filesystem apache can still write it (under its tmp name) with its open file descriptor. The signal cuts over the web server to the new (nulled) file without losing data and then you can do whatever you want/need to the saved logfile. So, the middle of the loop above wants to be something like... mv ${log} ${log}"_tmp" cp /dev/null ${log} chown www ${log} apachectl restart mv ${log}"_tmp" ${ARCDIR}/${log}.${DAY} In the presence of lots of virtual hosts you need to repeat the first stanza for each one before signalling apache and then mv each file after the signal, but thats about all the subtlety there is. I'll note that I suspect from the loop itself that you're trying to pick up the virtual hosts that way, which means to do this solution properly you want two loops with the restart in the middle of them (outside/between both of them). A short sleep after the restart to let apache flush buffers and cut over is also in order usually. Cheers, Enno. ------- Enno Davids Metva P/L, P.O.Box 2669, Phone: +61 3 9583 5474 enno.davids@metva.com.au Cheltenham 3192, Australia Mobile: +61 15 316 522 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 20:44:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satin.sensation.net.au (ethernet2-satin.Melbourne.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE52158C3 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial0-velvet.Brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by satin.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA29853 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:43:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04525 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:43:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:43:54 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > Another problem with FreeBSD aliases is routing. For reasons which are > not clear "ifconfig alias" doesn't automatically create a local route > to the IP. With FreeBSD 2.2.8 and earlier at least this must be done > manually: > > for h in $aliases1; do > route add 207.246.84.$h 127.0.0.1 > done ??? I have a 14 ifconfig_lo0_aliasX entries in my rc.conf on a FreeBSD 2.2.5-R machine, and there is no need to add an explicit route. I checked and none of the /etc/rc.* files seem to add in a route to 127.0.0.1. On a FreeBSD 2.2.2-R machine I have 16 'ifconfig lo0 alias' commands in rc._local_ and again there's no need to add a route. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 21:17:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hecate.webcom.com (hecate.webcom.com [209.1.28.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B4D14ECA for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:17:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by hecate.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA01436; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:17:34 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.23] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 34273125; Thu May 20 21:13 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <3745088D.61C@echidna.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:17:33 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Enno Davids Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: <199905210016.KAA08044@metva.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Enno Davids wrote: > So, the middle of the loop above wants to be something like... > > mv ${log} ${log}"_tmp" > cp /dev/null ${log} > chown www ${log} > apachectl restart > mv ${log}"_tmp" ${ARCDIR}/${log}.${DAY} Why are the steps > cp /dev/null ${log} > chown www ${log} necessary? -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 21:35: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D45915316 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from agifford@infowest.com) From: "Aaron Gifford" Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <19990521043504.2D45915316@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I gave up directly maintaining individual entries in /etc/rc.conf for each new IP alias I added. Instead I created a file listing just an IP address (and optional comments) for each IP alias which I process with a perl script. The perl script automatically updates my /etc/rc.conf neatly adding the appropriate ifconfig_if0_aliasXYZ= line and adding a subsequent static route for each IP alias. Additionally, the script checks to see if I've deleted any IP aliases and if so, deletes them or suggests the command line commands to do so (depending on how the script is configured). Oh, I forgot to mention that it does the reverse too, running ifconfig and route add for any new IP aliases. Yeah, yeah, this does mean rc.conf has to be at least partially machine readable, but since this is just for my own convenience and not a general solution, I don't care. Just to be sure I wasn't wasting my time adding static loopback routes for every IP alias, I did a quick ping test: PINGing a local IP alias that does NOT have a loopback route: --- 10.200.55.242 ping statistics --- 1000 packets transmitted, 1000 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.119/0.136/0.217/0.015 ms PINGing a local IP alias that DOES have a loopback route: --- 10.200.55.243 ping statistics --- 1000 packets transmitted, 1000 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.093/0.106/0.305/0.015 ms It looks like the loopback route shaves off .030 ms on average at least in this case processing pings. It works for me and is a bit easier than adding an ifconfig_... line to rc.conf by hand. Anyone interested in the perl script can e-mail me in private. It has only been tested with several hundred IP aliases, so for those with many hundreds or thousands, I'd be interested in finding out if it works there too. Aaron out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 22:18: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EF614D02 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (2239 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:46:00 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:45:59 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Graeme Tait Cc: Roger Marquis , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: <3744C34B.409E@echidna.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 May 1999, Graeme Tait wrote: > James Wyatt wrote: > > On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > > This will create an archived logfile (http.site.May_1999) and erase > > > the original without needing to kill -1 the httpd. [ ... ] > > content. beware... What is wrong with signalling the server once a day? > > A 'kill -1' causes Apache to immediately kill off all the server children, > aborting transfers in progress - not too good for a busy commerce server. In > addition, new children must be spawned, causing a hiatus of a few seconds > (sometimes appreciably more) with incoming requests piling up until full > performance is restored. A 'kill -1' also zeros out server statistics. Doing > all this seems a bit silly just to rotate log files. Ouch... Our stuff is fairly quiet from 00:00..02:00 and almost everthing is very short-duration. (We may see that change with BlueStone) As more of the sites get populated with PDF files and larger JPGs, I expect this will become more important to us. I wonder what it's impact on the PHP module is, any one out there know? As for stats, we analyze on logs and usually use the internal server stats for realtime checks on Apache servers. The formats are close enough between NetScape and Apache servers and we're more used to them. [ ... ] > With all the features and flexibility built into Apache, it seems > disappointing that the log rotation issue doesn't seem to have been > addressed better. Given what you have pointed-out, I have to agree. Anyone know if improvements in this area are on their todo/wish list? Thanks for the info - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 20 23:54:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mensa.national.com.au (mensa.national.com.au [203.57.240.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06195158A0 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:54:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nconedd@mensa.national.com.au) Received: (from nconedd@localhost) by mensa.national.com.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id QAA01984; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:53:42 +1000 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <199905210653.QAA01984@mensa.national.com.au> Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. To: graeme@echidna.com (Graeme Tait) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:53:42 +1000 (EST) Cc: enno.davids@metva.com.au, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3745088D.61C@echidna.com> from "Graeme Tait" at May 21, 99 00:17:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0a3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | Enno Davids wrote: | | > So, the middle of the loop above wants to be something like... | > | > mv ${log} ${log}"_tmp" | > cp /dev/null ${log} | > chown www ${log} | > apachectl restart | > mv ${log}"_tmp" ${ARCDIR}/${log}.${DAY} | | | Why are the steps | | > cp /dev/null ${log} | > chown www ${log} | | necessary? Strictly they may not be of course. Its more of a form thing for me. When I'm just truncating a log file (which we don't do much of these days of course) I tend to just cp /dev/null to it, which preserves mode and ownership. That leads to doing something similar when I recreate it from scratch, namely a copy with a following chown and a chmod. Doing this can often save you from odd problems when the rotate script runs as a user other than that of the Webserver. Often such script may run as root and creating a new file with cp or touch from that environment will often leave you with a file the Webserver can't write to. Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 1:20: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FC714D61 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA94024; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:19:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <374489D9.22D9833D@ciai.net> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:17:59 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Brian Scott Subject: RE: ISDN HeadAches Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 20-May-99 Brian Scott wrote: > this all seems to go well, no complaints at all. Then I add this to muh > kernel..... > ># USRobotics Sportster ISDN TA intern > options "USR_STI" > device isic0 at isa? port 0x340 net irq 5 flags 7 > pseudo-device "i4bq921" > pseudo-device "i4bq931" > pseudo-device "i4b" > pseudo-device "i4btrc" 4 > pseudo-device "i4bctl" > pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4 > pseudo-device "i4btel" 2 > pseudo-device "i4bipr" 4 > options IPR_VJ > pseudo-device "i4bisppp" 4 > > then I compile the kernel (which I've done hundreds of times) which in > this instance returned with this error.... > > [root@houze:/usr/src/sys/compile/HOUZE]# make > loading kernel > i4b_isppp.o: Undefined symbol `_sppp_attach' referenced from text > segment You need to add this to your kernel config: pseudo-device sppp JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 2:14:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E8A1596D for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 02:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA89019; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:13:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37452461.49C3B52D@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:16:17 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This will work assuming no deamons are expecting to listen on those > interfaces before they are created. So put them in start_if.fxp0 (or whatever) instead :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 4:25:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hecate.webcom.com (hecate.webcom.com [209.1.28.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138B814E67 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 04:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by hecate.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA25391; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:25:38 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.17] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 34283422; Fri May 21 04:21 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <37456CD4.278E@echidna.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:25:24 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Rowan Crowe , Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rowan Crowe wrote: > > On Thu, 20 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > > > Another problem with FreeBSD aliases is routing. For reasons which are > > not clear "ifconfig alias" doesn't automatically create a local route > > to the IP. With FreeBSD 2.2.8 and earlier at least this must be done > > manually: > > > > for h in $aliases1; do > > route add 207.246.84.$h 127.0.0.1 > > done > > ??? > > I have a 14 ifconfig_lo0_aliasX entries in my rc.conf on a FreeBSD 2.2.5-R > machine, and there is no need to add an explicit route. I checked and none > of the /etc/rc.* files seem to add in a route to 127.0.0.1. > > On a FreeBSD 2.2.2-R machine I have 16 'ifconfig lo0 alias' commands in > rc._local_ and again there's no need to add a route. Provided the netmask is 255.255.255.255 . See http://www.cypher.net/~black/ipalias.html which is listed under http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ . -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 5:13:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C486614CCB for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA16223 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:13:46 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.21) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma016219; Fri, 21 May 99 22:13:24 +1000 Received: by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 4A256778.004324AB ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:13:22 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA From: Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4A256778.0043233A.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:10:24 +1000 Subject: lousy performance of Squid-2.2.STABLE3 compared to 1.1.20 on FreeBSD 2.28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing to ask your suggestions on why Squid 2.2.STABLE3 performs very badly compared to 1.1.20 on the same FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE host. Here are the differences between the squid.conf and the default :- pericles# diff squid.conf squid.conf.default 346d345 < cache_mem 20 MB 416,417d414 < cache_dir /www/squid-2.2.STABLE3/cache1 1000 16 256 < cache_dir /www1/squid-2.2.STABLE3/cache2 1000 16 256 1032d1028 < http_access allow localhost This squid caches for an apache 1.2.5 proxy located on the same host. There are no alarming messages in cache.log (Here they are 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Starting Squid Cache version 2.2.STABLE3 for i386-unknown-freebs d2.2.8... 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Process ID 15779 1999/05/21 21:06:02| With 4096 file descriptors available 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Performing DNS Tests... 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Successful DNS name lookup tests... 1999/05/21 21:06:02| helperOpenServers: Starting 5 'dnsserver' processes 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Unlinkd pipe opened on FD 14 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Swap maxSize 2048000 KB, estimated 157538 objects 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Target number of buckets: 3150 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Using 8192 Store buckets, replacement runs every 10 seconds 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Max Mem size: 20480 KB 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Max Swap size: 2048000 KB 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Rebuilding storage in Cache Dir #0 (CLEAN) 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Rebuilding storage in Cache Dir #1 (CLEAN) 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Set Current Directory to /www/squid-2.2.STABLE3/cache1 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Loaded Icons. 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Accepting HTTP connections on port 3128, FD 39. 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Accepting ICP messages on port 3130, FD 40. 1999/05/21 21:06:02| Ready to serve requests. 1999/05/21 21:06:03| Done reading Cache Dir #1 swaplog (7421 entries) 1999/05/21 21:06:04| Done reading Cache Dir #0 swaplog (7801 entries) 1999/05/21 21:06:04| Finished rebuilding storage disk. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 15222 Entries read from previous logfile. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 0 Entries scanned from swap files. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 0 Invalid entries. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 0 With invalid flags. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 15222 Objects loaded. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 0 Objects expired. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 0 Objects cancelled. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 0 Duplicate URLs purged. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| 0 Swapfile clashes avoided. 1999/05/21 21:06:04| Took 2 seconds (7611.0 objects/sec). 1999/05/21 21:06:04| Beginning Validation Procedure 1999/05/21 21:06:05| Completed Validation Procedure 1999/05/21 21:06:05| Validated 15222 Entries 1999/05/21 21:06:05| store_swap_size = 111484k 1999/05/21 21:06:05| storeLateRelease: released 0 objects pericles# ) The FreeBSD system has 128 MB RAM, is a P166 and has 256 MB of swap. The caches are on 2 x IBM 4.3GB SCSI disks. I have tried disabling the rfc1644 T/TCP extensions unsuccessfully. The performance is *subjectively* worse. The clinet sees an initial burst of date then nothing .. as if something is blocked. Your suggestions will be rceived very gratefully, Thank you, Yours sincerely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 5:15:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (loviatar.webcom.com [209.1.28.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8726A14FFA for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA28765; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:14:56 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.17] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 34286020; Fri May 21 05:11 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <37457861.278E@echidna.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:14:41 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Gifford Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? References: <19990521043504.2D45915316@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aaron Gifford wrote: > Just to be sure I wasn't wasting my time adding static loopback > routes for every IP alias, I did a quick ping test: > > PINGing a local IP alias that does NOT have a loopback route: > > --- 10.200.55.242 ping statistics --- > 1000 packets transmitted, 1000 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.119/0.136/0.217/0.015 ms > > PINGing a local IP alias that DOES have a loopback route: > > --- 10.200.55.243 ping statistics --- > 1000 packets transmitted, 1000 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.093/0.106/0.305/0.015 ms > > It looks like the loopback route shaves off .030 ms on average > at least in this case processing pings. I created some IP aliases per http://www.cypher.net/~black/ipalias.html ifconfig fxp0 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.100 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias ifconfig fxp0 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.101 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias Explicitly adding routes (which the above reference says is unnecessary with netmask 255.255.255.255) with route add xxx.xxx.xxx.100 127.0.0.1 route add xxx.xxx.xxx.101 127.0.0.1 made no difference whatever to the ping times to those IP's on the local system (2.2.7S/CAM), which was otherwise idle. Does adding a loopback route for your .242 IP reduce its ping time? Was your system under load, and the load consistent? -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 5:54: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hecate.webcom.com (hecate.webcom.com [209.1.28.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BFE15534 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:54:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by hecate.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA02120; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:53:52 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.17] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 34287308; Fri May 21 05:50 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <37458184.2DFF@echidna.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:53:40 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Kenn Martin Cc: Nathanael Lierly , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? References: <19990520160813.A15580@infoteam.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kenn Martin wrote: > > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:46:50AM +0000, Nathanael Lierly wrote: > > Aloha, > > > > I am working on getting a slew of ip's addressed to one interface on a > > FreeBSD 3.1-R box. Formerly on other boxes I have done this through useing > > the actuall ifconfig command in rc.local. I am trying to get the right > > sytax for enteringin rc.conf, I have seen the example in defaults/rc.conf. > > > > My question is this, does the aliasX have to ascend in exact order from 0 > > up with no breaks. If this is so it makes it auful hard for someone with > > alot of ip's. Why do they have to ascend in order, and what do you mean by "no breaks"? -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 6:18:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xenetserver.harz.de (xenetserver.harz.de [193.159.181.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F950153A4 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Matthias.Meyser@harz.de) Received: (from matthias@localhost) by xenetserver.harz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21582; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:18:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990521151852.A21259@xenetserver.harz.de> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:18:52 +0200 From: Matthias Meyser To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? References: <19990520160813.A15580@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Roger Marquis on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:47:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:47:13PM -0700, Roger Marquis wrote: > Another problem with FreeBSD aliases is routing. For reasons which are > not clear "ifconfig alias" doesn't automatically create a local route > to the IP. With FreeBSD 2.2.8 and earlier at least this must be done > manually: > > for h in $aliases1; do > route add 207.246.84.$h 127.0.0.1 > done no. if you specify a netmask of 255.255.255.255 it works without setting the route manually. CU matthias -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 6:25:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DF714F8C for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@infowest.com) Received: by infowest.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 642AD20F65; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:25:23 -0600 (MDT) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? Reply-To: From: "Aaron D. Gifford" Message-Id: <19990521132523.642AD20F65@infowest.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:25:23 -0600 (MDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:46:50AM +0000, Nathanael Lierly wrote: >> > Aloha, >> > >> > I am working on getting a slew of ip's addressed to one interface on a >> > FreeBSD 3.1-R box. Formerly on other boxes I have done this through useing >> > the actuall ifconfig command in rc.local. I am trying to get the right >> > sytax for enteringin rc.conf, I have seen the example in defaults/rc.conf. >> > >> > My question is this, does the aliasX have to ascend in exact order from 0 >> > up with no breaks. If this is so it makes it auful hard for someone with >> > alot of ip's. I suspect Nathanael is asking if the lines in /etc/rc.conf ifconfig_if0_aliasXX="inet AA.BB.CC.DD netmask 0xffffffff" must start at 0 for XXX and ascend in increments of 1 with no breaks. By looking at the code in /etc/rc.networks (I am looking at a 3.2-STABLE box) I see that indeed this is true. They MUST ascend with NO BREAKS or the code believes that the aliases end. For instance: ifconfig_if0_alias0="inet AA.BB.CC.DD netmask 0xffffffff" ifconfig_if0_alias1="inet EE.FF.GG.HH netmask 0xffffffff" ifconfig_if0_alias3="inet II.JJ.KK.LL netmask 0xffffffff" The above fragment would fail to add II.JJ.KK.LL as an an alias. This makes managing aliases by hand in /etc/rc.conf painful once you have more than several tens, because if you ever delete one in the middle, you must renumber the subsequent lines. Another reason I rely on a perl script to write my /etc/rc.conf file for me. Aaron out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 6:39:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E56614C97 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:38:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@infowest.com) Received: by infowest.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id AD2C920F65; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:38:19 -0600 (MDT) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig_if0_alias? Reply-To: From: "Aaron D. Gifford" Message-Id: <19990521133819.AD2C920F65@infowest.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:38:19 -0600 (MDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think I know why I'm getting about 30ms. improvement consistently by adding a route for IP aliases on my FreeBSD-3.2-STABLE box--I am running with IPFIREWALL enabled in my kernel and one of my first 'ipfw' statements is 'ipfw add 100 permit all from any to any via lo0' so loopback traffic never has to traverse as many 'ipfw' filters. I'm not positive that this is the ONLY reason I see the improvement, but it could certainly explain why others on the list don't seem to see a difference. Here's another ping test: #ifconfig in0 inet 10.200.200.150 netmask 0xffffffff alias #ping -s 1024 -c 1000 -q 10.200.200.150 PING 10.200.200.150 (10.200.200.150): 1024 data bytes --- 10.200.200.150 ping statistics --- 1000 packets transmitted, 1000 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.118/0.138/2.331/0.071 ms #route add -host 10.200.200.150 -iface lo0 #ping -s 1024 -c 1000 -q 10.200.200.150 PING 10.200.200.150 (10.200.200.150): 1024 data bytes --- 10.200.200.150 ping statistics --- 1000 packets transmitted, 1000 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.099/0.115/0.268/0.014 ms #route delete -host 10.200.200.150 #ifconfig in0 inet 10.200.200.150 netmask 0xffffffff -alias The results are about the same every time I do it, improving ping times by about 30-32ms on average by adding the loopback route for the IP alias. Again, this may only be because of quicker ipfw processing due to the way I've structured my filters. Aaron out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 8:15:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D70F1516C for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:15:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from [216.61.218.5] (mac.tcworks.net [216.61.218.5]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA87835 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:19:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:15:50 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Chris Cook Subject: ifconfig alias number 2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am trying to add an ip alias on my fbsd 3.1 box (ifconfig de0 inet 216.61.218.6 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias) and it is giving me this error: ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists. What gives? I can add the same thing onto my other box on the same network with no problems (FBSD 3.1). Then I get this afterwards: May 21 06:12:12 ns2 routed[960]: de0 (216.61.218.6/24) is duplicated by de0 (216.61.218.3/24) May 21 06:12:12 ns2 routed[960]: de0 (216.61.218.6/24) is duplicated by de0 (216.61.218.3/24) Can someone explain what i am maybe doing wrong? Chris Cook The Computer Works 501-329-9144 http://www.tcworks.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 8:23:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE6C152DF for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@infowest.com) Received: by infowest.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id E77EF20F29; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:23:28 -0600 (MDT) To: ccook@tcworks.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig alias number 2 Reply-To: In-Reply-To: From: "Aaron D. Gifford" Message-Id: <19990521152328.E77EF20F29@infowest.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:23:28 -0600 (MDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Usually when adding aliases, you want to use a 255.255.255.255 netmask unless the alias is for another logical network on the same physical interface for which your machine does not yet have an IP address or route assigned. Aaron out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 8:47:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9296D159D3 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:47:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20310; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:46:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37457FF3.161C1F8@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:46:59 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig alias number 2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am trying to add an ip alias on my fbsd 3.1 box (ifconfig de0 > inet 216.61.218.6 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias) Wrong netmask use 255.255.255.255 stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 8:50:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23E71599E for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from [216.61.218.5] (mac.tcworks.net [216.61.218.5]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA96168 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:54:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:50:48 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Chris Cook Subject: ifconfig alias number 2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I believe the netmask should be 255.255.255.255 for aliases. I set the netmask to 255.255.255.255 and it gives me the following: May 21 06:30:11 ns2 routed[960]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway May 21 06:30:11 ns2 routed[960]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway May 21 06:30:11 ns2 routed[960]: possible netmask problem between de0:216.61.218.6/32 and de0:216.61.218.0/24 May 21 06:30:11 ns2 routed[960]: possible netmask problem between de0:216.61.218.6/32 and de0:216.61.218.0/24 Chris Cook The Computer Works 501-329-9144 http://www.tcworks.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 9:35:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8D014E48 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from [216.61.218.5] (mac.tcworks.net [216.61.218.5]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA06950 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:39:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:35:39 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Cook Subject: ifconfig alias number 2 (is this normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I believe the netmask should be 255.255.255.255 for aliases. I set the netmask to 255.255.255.255 and it gives me the following: May 21 06:30:11 ns2 routed[960]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway May 21 06:30:11 ns2 routed[960]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway May 21 06:30:11 ns2 routed[960]: possible netmask problem between de0:216.61.218.6/32 and de0:216.61.218.0/24 May 21 06:30:11 ns2 routed[960]: possible netmask problem between de0:216.61.218.6/32 and de0:216.61.218.0/24 Chris Cook The Computer Works 501-329-9144 http://www.tcworks.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Chris Cook The Computer Works 501-329-9144 http://www.tcworks.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 9:47:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roble.com (roble.com [199.108.85.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8DB159E3 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from roble2.roble.com (roble2.roble.com [199.108.85.52]) by roble.com (Roble1b) with SMTP id JAA06461 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:47:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig alias number 2 In-Reply-To: <37457FF3.161C1F8@eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I am trying to add an ip alias on my fbsd 3.1 box (ifconfig de0 > > inet 216.61.218.6 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias) > > Wrong netmask use 255.255.255.255 Why would you use a different netmask on your secondary interfaces (/32 vs. /24), assuming they're all on the same subnet? Is this just a workaround to avoid having to set the route explicitly? -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 21 9:57: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AE8159D6 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:57:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@infowest.com) Received: by infowest.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 87C5D20F43; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:57:03 -0600 (MDT) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: ifconfig alias number 2 Reply-To: From: "Aaron D. Gifford" Message-Id: <19990521165703.87C5D20F43@infowest.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:57:03 -0600 (MDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riger Marquis wrote: >> > I am trying to add an ip alias on my fbsd 3.1 box (ifconfig de0 >> > inet 216.61.218.6 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias) >> >> Wrong netmask use 255.255.255.255 > >Why would you use a different netmask on your secondary interfaces (/32 >vs. /24), assuming they're all on the same subnet? > >Is this just a workaround to avoid having to set the route explicitly? If the interface is already configured with an IP (not an alias IP) for the interface, a route already exists for the /24 subnet via this IP so adding aliases should use the /32 netmask. Examples: # Primary IP for interface: # (This adds 10.60.24.0/24 as a directly connected network) ifconfig if0 inet 10.60.24.12 netmask 255.255.255.0 # Alias IP for interface: # (use the all-ones netmask because the system already knows # this network is directly connected) ifconfig if0 inet 10.60.24.13 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias # Alias IP for a separate logical network on the same physical interface: # (DON'T use the all-ones netmask because we want the system to know # that this network is directly connected) ifconfig if0 inet 10.60.44.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias # And anoter alias IP: # (Again use the all-ones netmask) ifconfig if0 inet 10.60.44.51 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias Aaron out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 22 13:55:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49F5314E06 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwc@sytex.net) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA04610 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:52:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199905222052.QAA04610@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: Need Special Help in Tampa for Client To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:52:46 -0400 (EDT) From: rcramer@sytex.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 897 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello fellow ISP's I need some special help in Tampa, FL. I need someone who would feel comfortable and is low-key to assist a friends Dad (my client) with about 1 hour of instruction in using IE on how to send and receive mail, everything is already set up on the computer, maybe do a little browsing, and to make sure the computer is plugged together correctly. Charles, is suffering from with a serious heart condition and should not be lifting the computer or the monitor, and has no computer experience. If you can get him stated I can manage continual support from here. I will discuss a fee, help with services in the Washington DC area, etc. I you think you might be able to help please email me off the list. Thanks, Dick -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 22 17:59:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (web124.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1A1615101 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 17:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990523010047.28100.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.191.62.93] by web124.yahoomail.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:00:47 PDT Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:00:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: Command: host -l domain.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey, I want to be able to block out my domains from working with this command. I see some servers can do it. bash-2.02$ host -l aol.com Server failed: Query refused But when i do host -l mydomain.com it lists everything... Is this something in named i can edit to not list? If anyone knows, please let me know! Also, please CC you replies to me, as i'm not on the freebsd-questions list, I am on the freebsd-isp list though. Thanks. Thanks, Holt _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 22 19:15:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B1F151C5; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:15:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18369; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:15:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:15:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com In-Reply-To: <19990523010047.28100.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 22 May 1999, Holtor wrote: > Hey, I want to be able to block out my domains from > working with this command. I see some servers can do > it. Read your BIND docs; there are keywords for Bind4 and Bind8 to restrict zone transfers. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 22 19:25: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web110.yahoomail.com (web110.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C4A4152E1 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:25:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990523022632.17118.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.191.62.93] by web110.yahoomail.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:26:32 PDT Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:26:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, i've read the man pages and everthing I could find. Is there a bind web site out there? I'm running 8.1.2, i'd like to limit this asap. Thanks, Holtor --- Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 1999, Holtor wrote: > > > Hey, I want to be able to block out my domains > from > > working with this command. I see some servers can > do > > it. > > Read your BIND docs; there are keywords for Bind4 > and Bind8 to restrict > zone transfers. > > Doug White > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: > The Power to Serve > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | > www.freebsd.org > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 22 21:15:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roble.com (roble.com [199.108.85.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E46214D74 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 21:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from roble2.roble.com (roble2.roble.com [199.108.85.52]) by roble.com (Roble1b) with SMTP id VAA21812 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 21:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:15:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: <199905210016.KAA08044@metva.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 May 1999, Enno Davids wrote: > The correct solution, is to 'mv' your logfile > to another temporary name in the same filesystem, then null the real name & > reset owners and permissions, then signal apache and then move the logfile > away to the archived name. The "correct" solution is to do whatever works on your system. For 99% of apache websites there is no need to HUP the httpd daemon and interrupt transfers in progress. And if anyone has been able to produce a race condition with "cp logfile logfile.bk;cp /dev/null logfile" they haven't spoken up. Having used this technique for years without a race condition it would appear to be a false alarm. The one disadvantage of copying /dev/null is that it is possible to lose log entries on busy servers however, from checking log files and rotated logfiles, it would have to be an extremely busy server to lose log entries. -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 22 23:43: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8243114C30 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 23:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 13763 invoked by uid 1001); 23 May 1999 06:43:02 +0000 (GMT) To: holtor@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 22 May 1999 19:26:32 -0700 (PDT)" References: <19990523022632.17118.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 08:43:02 +0200 Message-ID: <13761.927441782@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Yes, i've read the man pages and everthing I could > find. Is there a bind web site out there? > I'm running 8.1.2, i'd like to limit this asap. Look at the 'allow-transfer' option. Use something like this for 8.1.2: options { allow-transfer { localnets; 128.9.160/24; // isi.edu }; }; Can also be set on a per zone basis. Check http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/ for more info about DNS. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 23 4:24:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mfisher.fis (a7dial-57.ncweb.com [208.198.226.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD68015258 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 04:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mfisher@csh.rit.edu) Received: from mfisher (helo=localhost) by mfisher.fis with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10lWMW-000A0a-00; Sun, 23 May 1999 07:24:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 07:24:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Fisher X-Sender: mfisher@mfisher.fis To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 May 1999, Roger Marquis wrote: > The "correct" solution is to do whatever works on your system. For 99% > of apache websites there is no need to HUP the httpd daemon and > interrupt transfers in progress. Why not use rotatelogs(8), which comes with the Apache distribution? - -- Mike "Live for yourself -- there's no one else more worth living for." -- Rush -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0i Comment: Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBN0flXANoiUfuQq8NEQKokwCgoodvQNs+L6VGgRwJVgqAYytUd9MAn3DV p+DqA8xEgoZdsTsoiukfQAd6 =+u8+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 23 6:28: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C1714D18 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 06:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA11607 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 May 1999 09:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA79468 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 May 1999 08:59:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199905231259.IAA79468@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. In-Reply-To: from Roger Marquis at "May 22, 1999 9:15:33 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 08:59:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Marquis recently said: > On Fri, 21 May 1999, Enno Davids wrote: > > > The correct solution, is to 'mv' your logfile to another > > temporary name in the same filesystem, then null the real name & > > reset owners and permissions, then signal apache and then move > > the logfile away to the archived name. > The "correct" solution is to do whatever works on your system. For > 99% of apache websites there is no need to HUP the httpd daemon > and interrupt transfers in progress. The original question was from someone who had a very busy site and wanted to be sure (I'm guessing for traffic/billing purposes), that the never lost a single record. > The one disadvantage of copying /dev/null is that it is possible > to lose log entries on busy servers however, from checking log > files and rotated logfiles, it would have to be an extremely busy > server to lose log entries. That's the exact condition they were trying to avoid - it was an extremely busy server. mv log log.o (or log.l ... if you keep many, and then restart) will have the login continue to log.o (as the inode is the same) until you send a HUP -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 23 6:43:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ABC15262; Sun, 23 May 1999 06:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.1.2] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.00 #1) id 10lYQN-000IRM-00; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:36:19 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk (ident=ben) by rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.00 #1) id 10lYQN-000DCR-00; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:36:19 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:36:18 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com Message-ID: <19990523143618.A50712@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <19990523022632.17118.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990523022632.17118.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Holtor wrote: > Yes, i've read the man pages and everthing I could > find. Is there a bind web site out there? > I'm running 8.1.2, i'd like to limit this asap. http://www.isc.org/ should have a link to the Bind pages. [snip upside-down reply] -- Ben Smithurst ben@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 23 6:47:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (loviatar.webcom.com [209.1.28.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE8215381 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 06:47:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA24760; Sun, 23 May 1999 06:47:47 -0700 Received: from [204.143.69.27] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 34345123; Sun May 23 06:44 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <37483124.6C04@echidna.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:47:32 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Statistics break up program. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Marquis wrote: > And if anyone has been able to produce a race condition with "cp > logfile logfile.bk;cp /dev/null logfile" they haven't spoken up. > Having used this technique for years without a race condition it would > appear to be a false alarm. > > The one disadvantage of copying /dev/null is that it is possible to > lose log entries on busy servers however, from checking log files and > rotated logfiles, it would have to be an extremely busy server to lose > log entries. How would you know if you are losing log entries? I intend to try this when I get some free time. To do it I will set up Apache to make a second parallel copy of the access log for one fairly busy site, and use your technique a few times at peak periods on the extra access log file, comparing the resultant log segments with the master log. One question - what ensures there isn't a significant delay between completion of the cp of the logfile, and the start of the cp /dev/null? On a machine running CPU intensive tasks, my experience with executing commands from a console is that sometimes the shell (or something) seems to pause a little before getting a new command running. Our server has a number of CGI tasks that use a lot of CPU - it's not unusual for there to be several such tasks running in parallel, with 100% CPU utilization for seconds at a time. -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 5:56: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFAE14D91 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 05:56:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA23633 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:56:00 -0400 Message-ID: <19990524085600.A20471@intrepid.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:56:00 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: BIND and subnetted in-addr.arpa domains Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have a dedicated access customer who wants to run reverse DNS on the subnet that we're routing to him. We're running BIND 4.9.X, and I've looked though the BOG and man pages -- this doesn't seem possible. Is it possible in BIND 8? This may be a good reason to upgrade if it is. I'd like to allow him to run reverse on that subnet, and to download it as a secondary to our nameserver, and serve it up to the rest of the Internet. TIA, --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 6: 7:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sex-lies-video.tape.net (sex-lies-video.tape.net [216.115.128.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A62E14DFB for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 06:07:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gerry@intersurf.com) Received: (qmail 40534 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 08:07:19 -0500 Received: from duct.tape.net (HELO duct) (216.115.130.196) by sex-lies-video.tape.net with SMTP; 24 May 1999 08:07:19 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990524080609.062cab80@mail.tape.net> X-Sender: gerry@mail.tape.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:07:18 -0500 To: Mark Conway Wirt , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Gerry Boudreaux Subject: Re: BIND and subnetted in-addr.arpa domains In-Reply-To: <19990524085600.A20471@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2317.html or the Second Ed. of DNS and Bind from O'Reilly discusses this. Hope this helps Gerry Boudreaux At 08:56 AM 5/24/99 -0400, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > >We have a dedicated access customer who wants to run reverse >DNS on the subnet that we're routing to him. We're running BIND 4.9.X, >and I've looked though the BOG and man pages -- this doesn't seem >possible. > >Is it possible in BIND 8? This may be a good reason to upgrade if it is. >I'd like to allow him to run reverse on that subnet, and to download >it as a secondary to our nameserver, and serve it up to the rest >of the Internet. > >TIA, > >--Mark > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 6:24:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nfol.com (unknown [209.177.34.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C517F15320 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 06:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nfol.com) Received: by nfol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 642E37A101; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: BIND and subnetted in-addr.arpa domains In-Reply-To: <19990524085600.A20471@intrepid.net> from Mark Conway Wirt at "May 24, 1999 8:56: 0 am" To: mark@intrepid.net (Mark Conway Wirt) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1133 Message-Id: <19990524132154.642E37A101@nfol.com> From: dan@nfol.com (Dan Harnett) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > We have a dedicated access customer who wants to run reverse > DNS on the subnet that we're routing to him. We're running BIND 4.9.X, > and I've looked though the BOG and man pages -- this doesn't seem > possible. > Is it possible in BIND 8? This may be a good reason to upgrade if it is. This is possible in bind 4.9.x as well. AFAIK, there is no easy way to indicate what ip address the subnet starts on. There are several ways to do this, and the one that seems the easiest to administrate is to assign the PTR records to a CNAME, then assign a NS for that CNAME. Here's an example for a subnet in a class C, 10.0.0.0: 32 IN PTR 32.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 33 IN PTR 33.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 34 IN PTR 34.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 35 IN PTR 35.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 36 IN PTR 36.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. ... subnet IN NS ns.other.server.com. IN NS ns2.other.server.com. On the customer's side, he/she will have to have a zone setup for the domain subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. I am unaware of an easier way to do this. Perhaps bind8 has the ability to make this easy. Dan Harnett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 6:30: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68EA614EBC for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 06:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 29884 invoked by uid 1001); 24 May 1999 13:29:49 +0000 (GMT) To: dan@nfol.com Cc: mark@intrepid.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND and subnetted in-addr.arpa domains From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 09:21:54 -0400 (EDT)" References: <19990524132154.642E37A101@nfol.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:29:49 +0200 Message-ID: <29882.927552589@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am unaware of an easier way to do this. Perhaps bind8 has the ability to > make this easy. It does. See the GENERATE zone file directive. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no ---------------------------------------------------------------------- $GENERATE Syntax: $GENERATE [] $GENERATE is used to create a series of resource records that only differ from each other by an iterator. $GENERATE can be used to easily generate the sets of records required to support sub /24 reverse delegations described in RFC 2317: Classless IN-ADDR.ARPA delegation. $ORIGIN 0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA. $GENERATE 1-2 0 NS SERVER$.EXAMPLE. $GENERATE 1-127 $ CNAME $.0 is equivalent to 0.0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA NS SERVER1.EXAMPLE. 0.0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA NS SERVER2.EXAMPLE. 1.0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA CNAME 1.0.0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA 2.0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA CNAME 2.0.0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA ... 127.0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA CNAME 127.0.0.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA range This can be one of two forms: start-stop or start-stop/step. If the first form is used then step is set to 1. All of start, stop and step must be positive. lhs Lhs describes the owner name of the resource records to be created. Any single $ symbols within the LHS side are replaced by the iterator value. To get a $ in the output use a double $, e.g. $$. If the lhs is not absolute the current $ORIGIN is appended to the name. type At present the only supported types are PTR, CNAME and NS. rhs Rhs is a domain name. It is processed similarly to the lhs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 11:53:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724D71524F; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA143426573; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:36:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:36:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com In-Reply-To: <19990523010047.28100.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 22 May 1999, Holtor wrote: > But when i do host -l mydomain.com > it lists everything... > Is this something in named i can edit to not list? Security through obscurity is a really bad idea. What is so precious about your DNS records that you can't share. > If anyone knows, please let me know! It's in the bind8 documentation. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 12:19:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE98E14E89 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 36976 invoked by uid 1001); 24 May 1999 19:19:45 +0000 (GMT) To: billf@chc-chimes.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 10:36:12 -0400 (EDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:19:45 +0200 Message-ID: <36974.927573585@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > But when i do host -l mydomain.com > > it lists everything... > > Is this something in named i can edit to not list? > > Security through obscurity is a really bad idea. What is so precious about > your DNS records that you can't share. Normally I agree. However, I have seen several examples of the following happening in rapid succession: - Downloading the zone file for a TLD (in this case .no). - Using this info to attempt to download the zone files for *all* the subdomains of the TLD. - Using info from these zone files to launch attacks (for instance against the name servers themselves). As one of the persons responsible for the .no domain, I have concluded that the only sensible course for me is to allow zone transfers only to secondaries and to other "well known" sites that I trust not to have evil intentions. Of course, this will not stop a determined attacker - but it *will* slow down or stop a lot of the script kiddies. Good enough for me. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 12:20: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF20F15475; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14489; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Holtor , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 May 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 1999, Holtor wrote: > > > But when i do host -l mydomain.com > > it lists everything... > > Is this something in named i can edit to not list? > > Security through obscurity is a really bad idea. What is so precious about > your DNS records that you can't share. > It's more of a bandwidth-limiting thing. Zone transfers are fairly taxing, especially if you have large zones. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 12:32:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A3915491 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA31486 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:32:38 -0400 Message-ID: <19990524153238.H20471@intrepid.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:32:38 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND and subnetted in-addr.arpa domains References: <19990524085600.A20471@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990524085600.A20471@intrepid.net>; from Mark Conway Wirt on Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:56:00AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:56:00AM -0400, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > > We have a dedicated access customer who wants to run reverse > DNS on the subnet that we're routing to him. We're running BIND 4.9.X, > and I've looked though the BOG and man pages -- this doesn't seem > possible. Thanks to everyone who responded. Guess I'll go with the BIND 4 hack, although 8 *does* look a little more elegant... --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 12:38:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (web125.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54F3414D60 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990524194109.27781.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.191.62.226] by web125.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:41:09 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com To: Doug White , Bill Fumerola Cc: Holtor , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Right, some people like to waste bandwidth, and others use it to launch denial of services attacks some how. I personally like to limit anything that can be used against me or my ISP in any way at all. Holt --- Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 24 May 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 May 1999, Holtor wrote: > > > > > But when i do host -l mydomain.com > > > it lists everything... > > > Is this something in named i can edit to not > list? > > > > Security through obscurity is a really bad idea. > What is so precious about > > your DNS records that you can't share. > > > > It's more of a bandwidth-limiting thing. Zone > transfers are fairly > taxing, especially if you have large zones. > > Doug White > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: > The Power to Serve > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | > www.freebsd.org > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 12:43:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A3BD14C49 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 37670 invoked by uid 1001); 24 May 1999 19:43:15 +0000 (GMT) To: mark@intrepid.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND and subnetted in-addr.arpa domains From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 15:32:38 -0400" References: <19990524153238.H20471@intrepid.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:43:15 +0200 Message-ID: <37668.927574995@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > We have a dedicated access customer who wants to run reverse > > DNS on the subnet that we're routing to him. We're running BIND 4.9.X, > > and I've looked though the BOG and man pages -- this doesn't seem > > possible. > > Thanks to everyone who responded. Guess I'll go with the BIND 4 hack, > although 8 *does* look a little more elegant... But it's purely syntactic sugar. The final contents of the zone files are the same, viewed from a secondary name server, for instance. So it's just as much of a "hack" for BIND 8 as it is for BIND 4 :-) Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 12:53:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AF514BF8; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA166560230; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:37:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:37:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command: host -l domain.com In-Reply-To: <36974.927573585@verdi.nethelp.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 May 1999 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > - Downloading the zone file for a TLD (in this case .no). > - Using this info to attempt to download the zone files for *all* the > subdomains of the TLD. > - Using info from these zone files to launch attacks (for instance > against the name servers themselves). TLD domains are a whole different story. You can get nameservers without a zone transfer however. (obviously) - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 13:41:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA8115399 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA28142 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:41:46 -0300 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:41:45 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: pppd + pam Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying use PAM with pppd. My gettytab has this information: std.115200|115200-baud:\ :de#3:np:sp#115200:pp=/usr/local/etc/pwin: std.230400|230400-baud:\ :de#3:np:sp#230400:pp=/usr/local/etc/pwin: and my pwin: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/mesg n /usr/bin/tty -echo exec /usr/sbin/pppd debug idle 1200 -detach modem crtscts netmask 255.255.255.128 auth login +pap dns1 200.249.195.3 dns2 200.249.195.5 domain nlink.com.br. exit I'm using login option with pppd. I added in pam.conf this line: pppd auth required pam_radius.so try_first_pass but I have received PAP login failures. Probaly pppd don't make pam athentication because I have used pam auth with login and it works fine (in this case I added: login auth required pam_radius.so try_first_pass in pam.conf). How to make PAM+radius to work with pppd? Many Thanks, Paulo. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 24 14:59: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from red.ligos.com (red.ligos.com [207.238.131.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DEDBB14E11 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:58:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwaldura@LIGOS.COM) Received: (qmail 5916 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:58:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.ligos.com) (192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:58:34 -0000 Received: by server.ligos.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:58:34 -0700 Message-ID: <9141909996F1D011B8FF00A0C95A661B33EF08@server.ligos.com> From: Renaud Waldura To: mark@intrepid.net Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: BIND and subnetted in-addr.arpa domains Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:58:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or you could directly map the addresses into their name space: 1 CNAME 1.addr.example.com. 2 CNAME 2.addr.example.com. where example.com is your client's domain. On the client side they have to maintain only one zone file for example.com: www.example.com A 10.1.1.1 1.addr.example.com PTR www.example.com. etc. --Renaud > -----Original Message----- > From: dan@nfol.com [SMTP:dan@nfol.com] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 6:22 AM > To: mark@intrepid.net > Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: BIND and subnetted in-addr.arpa domains > > > > We have a dedicated access customer who wants to run reverse > > DNS on the subnet that we're routing to him. We're running BIND 4.9.X, > > and I've looked though the BOG and man pages -- this doesn't seem > > possible. > > > Is it possible in BIND 8? This may be a good reason to upgrade if it > is. > > This is possible in bind 4.9.x as well. AFAIK, there is no easy way to > indicate > what ip address the subnet starts on. There are several ways to do this, > and > the one that seems the easiest to administrate is to assign the PTR > records to > a CNAME, then assign a NS for that CNAME. Here's an example for a subnet > in > a class C, 10.0.0.0: > > 32 IN PTR 32.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. > 33 IN PTR 33.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. > 34 IN PTR 34.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. > 35 IN PTR 35.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. > 36 IN PTR 36.subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. > ... > > subnet IN NS ns.other.server.com. > IN NS ns2.other.server.com. > > > On the customer's side, he/she will have to have a zone setup for the > domain > subnet.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. > > I am unaware of an easier way to do this. Perhaps bind8 has the ability > to > make this easy. > > > Dan Harnett > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 6:33: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (liberty.bulinfo.net [195.10.36.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A00C15705 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 25013 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 13:32:28 -0000 Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (195.10.36.71) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 25 May 1999 13:32:27 -0000 Message-ID: <374AA66B.9AB8E77@bulinfo.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:32:27 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev Organization: Bulinfo Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Silo overflow and Cyclades problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We have Cyclades Ye 32port PCI multiport adapters connected to PC with FreeBSD 2.2.8 that services 32 dial-in modems. The kernel is patched to support modules SM/16 II. The computers are with Intel TX motherboards and CPU AMD-K6/233MHz, 32Mb RAM. The problem is that the kernel too often generates messages like this: /kernel: cy.. 1 more silo overflow (total ..) and the computers reboot without any reasons every few days. This seems not to be a hardware problem. We tested this configuration on the same machine running Linux without any problems. Did anybody know the source of this problem and solution to solve it or any resources to read how to fix it? Thanks in advance, Regards Krassimir Slavchev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 7: 2:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ACC.sumy.net (ACC.sim.net.ua [62.244.20.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8B614F13; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pasha@sim.net.ua) Received: from sim.net.ua (GW.sumy.net [62.244.20.220]) by ACC.sumy.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17276; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:01:40 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <374AAD43.D4163421@sim.net.ua> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:01:40 +0300 From: Pavel Narozhniy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: uk, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krassimir Slavchev Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silo overflow and Cyclades problems References: <374AA66B.9AB8E77@bulinfo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > > Hi, > We have Cyclades Ye 32port PCI multiport adapters > connected to PC with FreeBSD 2.2.8 that services 32 dial-in modems. > The kernel is patched to support modules SM/16 II. > The computers are with Intel TX motherboards and CPU AMD-K6/233MHz, 32Mb > RAM. > The problem is that the kernel too often generates messages like this: > /kernel: cy.. 1 more silo overflow (total ..) > and the computers reboot without any reasons every few days. > This seems not to be a hardware problem. > We tested this configuration on the same machine running Linux without > any problems. > > Did anybody know the source of this problem and solution to solve it or > any resources > to read how to fix it? I had the same problem year ago. The are one known fix - get ISA version. -- Pavel Narozhniy nic-hdl: PN395-RIPE http://www.sumy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 7: 6:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500CA14FF6; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA03918; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:06:02 +1000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:06:02 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199905251406.AAA03918@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG, krassi@bulinfo.net Subject: Re: Silo overflow and Cyclades problems Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >We have Cyclades Ye 32port PCI multiport adapters >connected to PC with FreeBSD 2.2.8 that services 32 dial-in modems. >The kernel is patched to support modules SM/16 II. >The computers are with Intel TX motherboards and CPU AMD-K6/233MHz, 32Mb >RAM. >The problem is that the kernel too often generates messages like this: >/kernel: cy.. 1 more silo overflow (total ..) Use FreeBSD 3.x and the CY_PCI_FASTINTR option. >and the computers reboot without any reasons every few days. Probably a different problem. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 7:20:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nostrum.com (mail.nostrum.com [206.28.8.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603AE1571E; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:20:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pckizer@nostrum.com) Received: (from pckizer@localhost) by mail.nostrum.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id JAA02223; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:20:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199905251420.JAA02223@mail.nostrum.com> From: Philip Kizer To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiple Cyclades cards in one box [was: Silo overflow and Cyclades problems] In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 17:01:40 +0300." <374AAD43.D4163421@sim.net.ua> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:20:29 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pavel Narozhniy replied to: >> We have Cyclades Ye 32port PCI multiport adapters >> connected to PC with FreeBSD 2.2.8 that services 32 dial-in modems. >> The kernel is patched to support modules SM/16 II. >> The computers are with Intel TX motherboards and CPU AMD-K6/233MHz, 32Mb >> RAM. and wrote: >I had the same problem year ago. The are one known fix - get ISA >version. A related question, I currently have a 3.1-STABLE box with a Ye32 (ISA) [acting as a pager notification and serial console multiplexor for several dozen Sun/etc. boxes], and am nearing the time when I'll need to expand above the 32 ports. Is it possible to, and are there any problems I should know about, putting another Ye32 (ISA) in the same box? Anyone done such a thing? From the comments above and others I've seen, should I stick with the ISA variant rather than trying to add one of the PCI cards? -philip -- AKA: Philip Kizer Texas A&M CIS Operating Systems Group, Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 11:24:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D8D15A94 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id NAA80407 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:24:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:24:43 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199905251824.NAA80407@ns1.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: UID Limits Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is probably a silly question... how many UIDs can I have on a single system? UID seems to be an int type so I'd say around 65000ish. Rcently, however, I heard of a Solaris upgrade that would allow it to go into the millions and wondered about FreeBSD... -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 11:32:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4335E14BD2 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA13988 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA28154 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:33:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199905251533.LAA28154@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Fragmentation In-Reply-To: from "Wayne, Ken" at "May 25, 1999 9:46: 0 am" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:32:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wayne, Ken recently said: > I've only been using FreeBSD for about 6 months now so excuse the > question if there is an easy answer or if it has been recently > covered. > When I boot up, BSD reports somewhere between 1% and 5% > fragmentation. Do I need to be worried about this? Is this > something the OS takes care of or is there a utility I can use to > degrag the volume? That's not 'fragementation' in the same sense as the term is used in the MSDOS world. Read about it any of the books on the BSD system. You'll see that fragments are areas where piece of file are store that won't fit in a full allocation block (typically 4K or 8K). It's just the amount of file-pieces stored. When the file is next added to these pieces are reclaimed and put in contiguous blocks if the addition is enough to fill out a full allocation. -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 11:45:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.datasys.net (kiwi.datasys.net [209.119.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABF7158BF for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ayan@kiwi.datasys.net) Received: (from ayan@localhost) by kiwi.datasys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02733; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:44:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ayan) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:44:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayan George Message-Id: <199905251844.OAA02733@kiwi.datasys.net> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: Steve Ames , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UID Limits Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve, /usr/include/sys/types.h defines uid_t as a u_int32_t. /usr/include/sys/inttypes.h typedefs u_int32_t to __int32_t. /usr/include/machine/ansi.h typedefs __int32_t to int. So, uid_t is an int. sizeof( int ) on my 4.0-CURRENT machine is 4 bytes. 2^32 = 4294967296 So, I think thats how many UIDs we can have. Is that right everyone? If so, thats a lot of UIDs. -Ayan [ Quoted message from Steve Ames, recieved May 25, 1:24pm.] > > This is probably a silly question... how many UIDs can I have on a > single system? UID seems to be an int type so I'd say around > 65000ish. Rcently, however, I heard of a Solaris upgrade that would > allow it to go into the millions and wondered about FreeBSD... > > -Steve > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message [ End message from Steve Ames. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 13:41:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51A4615B42 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from terrye@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 24696 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:20:12 -0000 Received: from file.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:20:12 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990525133058.00a41680@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: terrye@mail1.dcomm.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:36:25 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Terry Ewing Subject: DSL over ATM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We're looking into offering DSL to our customers. We have two choices on how to do this. We could add an ATM card to our Cisco 7000 to do the PVC's on the ATM circuit, or we could build a FreeBSD box, get an ATM card, and go from there. Id like to know which is preferable. I know nothing about ATM, or DSL, but another issue comes up; we need to assign IP addresses with DHCP over the ATM circuit. Some customers may only be allowed one IP address while others may be allowed more. Using FreeBSD for this would seem more robust, but I'd like to get opinions from you all Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 14: 5:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from qatar.net.qa (qatar.net.qa [194.133.33.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16B915439 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pons@DAL.NET) Received: from DAL.NET (ddgm.qatar.net.qa [194.133.35.178]) by qatar.net.qa (8.8.8/Internet-Qatar) with ESMTP id AAA01585 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:03:34 +0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <374B1039.4F81FF0F@DAL.NET> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:03:53 +0300 From: Fadi Sodah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Trafshow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings when I run trafshow, I got a message saying this "interface is sleeping" What could be wrong -pons pons@DAL.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 14:28:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cerberus.charnocks.net (cerberus.charnocks.net [209.197.192.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A7015311 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:28:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from charnock@cerberus.charnocks.net) Received: from localhost (charnock@localhost) by cerberus.charnocks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18882; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:28:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:28:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "William R. Charnock" To: Terry Ewing Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL over ATM In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990525133058.00a41680@mail1.dcomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We opted to buy the Cisco router. It was about 22K or so for a 7206VXR w/300MHZ NPE, 128MB DRAM, 20MB Flash, FastEther on the IO controller, and the PA-A3-T3 ATM card. We have been using it for a couple of weeks now and things seem to be working well. On Tue, 25 May 1999, Terry Ewing wrote: > Hello, > We're looking into offering DSL to our customers. We have two choices > on how to do this. We could add an ATM card to our Cisco 7000 to do the > PVC's on the ATM circuit, or we could build a FreeBSD box, get an ATM card, > and go from there. Id like to know which is preferable. > > I know nothing about ATM, or DSL, but another issue comes up; we need to > assign IP addresses with DHCP over the ATM circuit. Some customers may > only be allowed one IP address while others may be allowed more. Using > FreeBSD for this would seem more robust, but I'd like to get opinions from > you all > > Thanks > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 14:35:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtualia.combios.es (virtualia.combios.es [195.53.190.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1E7B158AE; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from callback@workmail.com) Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by virtualia.combios.es (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:32:59 +0200 Received: from workmail.com (36229.rad.bbv.es [195.235.36.229]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA18023; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:33:32 -0400 (EDT) From: callback@workmail.com Message-Id: <199905252133.RAA18023@pop01.globecomm.net> To: callback@workmail.com Subject: CAMBIO DE DIRECCION EMAIL Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Disculpe la intromisión. Tengo que comunicarles que mis tres direcciones principales de redireccionamiento hasta ahora: callback@correo.nu call-back@correo.nu call-back@correovirtual.com han sido eliminadas por cese de actividad de su dominio como pueden comprobar en las direcciones http://www.correo.nu y http://www.correovirtual.com. Por otro lado por nuestra cuenta vamos a abandonar las direcciones: callback@workmail.com call-back@lycosmail.com por los muchos fallos y desconexiones que tiene el proveedor mail.com. Asi con todo lo relacionado con el sistema CallBack y sistema 800 (Tarjetas Virtuales) de IAS, pueden ponerse en contacto con nuestra dirección principal ya conocida o con la siguiente direccion info@callback.zzn.com Saludos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CORREO GRATUITO EN NUEVE IDIOMAS EN http://callback.zzn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hallo: Exculpates the interference. I than to communicate them than this addresses main of forward until now: callback@correo.nu call-back@correo.nu call-back@correovirtual.com han been eliminated by end of activity of his domain as they can check at the addresses http://www.correo.nu and http://www.correovirtual.com. Let's go to abandon the addresses: callback@workmail.com call-back@lycosmail.com by the many failures and desconexiones than he have the providor mail.com. Related to with the system CallBack and system 800 (Virtual Cards) of IAS, they can to be laied at contact with our address main already knowed or with the following address info@callback.zzn.com Greetings -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EMAIL FREE AT NINE LANGUAGES AT http://callback.zzn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 14:50: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A2B156DE for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA18113 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374B1A04.446B9B3D@whistle.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:45:40 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Anyone know about Cisco "PPP" encapsulation? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have come across the following Probably not uncommon setup. According to the telco, (AT&T) it looks like: Cisco7500 ---(aal5)-----[ATM CLOUD]-----switch---(ppp)--ciscoXXXX it seems that the edge device takes the AAL SNAP encapsulated IP packet and reencapsulates it with some PPP variant. I want to replace the CISCOXXXX with a FreeBSD box, but I'm having difficulty in figuring out EXACTLY what is going on. Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? (specifically and AT&T types out there that actually know wnat they are talking about , (as opposed to the guy I just spoke to). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 14:52: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from martini.office.cdsnet.net (martini.office.cdsnet.net [204.118.245.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D13F315ABD for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:52:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reich@internetcds.com) Received: (qmail 84671 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:52:03 -0000 Received: from martini.office.cdsnet.net (reich@204.118.245.24) by martini.office.cdsnet.net with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:52:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:52:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mahlon Smith X-Sender: reich@martini.office.cdsnet.net To: Fadi Sodah Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trafshow In-Reply-To: <374B1039.4F81FF0F@DAL.NET> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nothing is wrong. You aren't monitoring any packets. Try specifying your NIC interface on the command line. -------------------------- Mahlon Smith InternetCDS http://www.internetcds.com On Wed, 26 May 1999, Fadi Sodah wrote: > Greetings > > when I run trafshow, I got a message saying this > "interface is sleeping" > > What could be wrong > > -pons > pons@DAL.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 25 16: 8:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC19159AE; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA11435; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Cc: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu, msmith@freebsd.org Subject: Gigabit Ethernet. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org SysKonnect (www.syskonnect.com,www.syskonnect.de) as been convinced to release the documentation for their GENESIS interface ASIC that they use with the XaQti (www.xaqti.com) XMAC II Gigabit Ethernet controller chip on their line of Gigabit Ethernet PCI cards. Currently Linux has support for this device though in a beta fashion and through a binary library. There is no FreeBSD support. FreeBSD already supports the Alteon Tigon 1 and Tigon 2 based devices but given documentation (check) a willing developer (check) and an example device ( ), there is no reason FreeBSD can't have support for this line of devices. All that remains is for Bill Paul (wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu) to receive 1 of these devices so he can begin coding. Bill, as you may know, is the author of many fine fast ethernet device drivers (And a wireless ethernet driver, and the Alteon gigabit ethernet driver). You can find all of his work at http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/ and most of it in a recent -STABLE/-CURRENT tree. Bill is the reason FreeBSD now supports nearly every cheap, worthless, trashy Taiwanese ethernet board on the market. (He'd love to find more well designed hardware but such hardware doesn't sell for $19.95 at CompUSA.) Anyhow, as Mike Smith said "Bill has a very high return on investment." I don't think you'll disagree with this statement given his track record. What Bill needs: (as relates to his SK driver efforts that is) - donations from 1 or many people to The FreeBSD Project so that Mike & Jordan can buy him a card (or 2). - A card. :) If you're going to donate a card, please email Bill first to make sure he still needs one. His shipping info is at the end of this message. If you want to donate money please see http://www.freebsdmall.com/donate/ (I'm not sure how this page allows you to specify what the donation is towards but I gather that the monent there is enough cash available, a card will be ordered. If your donations don't end up actually going towards the purchase of an SK card, they'll probably go against an Adaptec, or a PNIC II or whatever other new card that Bill needs.) Card type: SysKonnect SK-9843 Single Port SC connector SX-Gigabit ethernet INFO@: http://www.syskonnect.com/syskonnect/products/b0101_ethernet_9843.html BUY@: http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00043095/01530276.htm $558.07 -or- SysKonnect SK-9844 Dual Port SC connector SX-Gigabit ethernet INFO@: http://www.syskonnect.com/syskonnect/products/b0101_ethernet_9844.html BUY@: http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00043095/01530275.htm $1,134.46 Bill only needs 1 card, but it probably wouldn't hurt for him to have both. Given the choice b/t cards, Bill has expressed the desire to have the dual port. Given the choice between a single port card and no card at all I suspect he'd settle for the single port. SysKonnect makes LX fiber versions of the above cards which are not needed for use in development. Check the SK part number if your order something. Shipping info: Attn: Bill Paul Columbia University Dept. Of Electrical Engineering Room 1312 Mudd Bldg. 500 West 120th Street New York City, NY. 10027 (If you get the impression that I'm just a lackey for Bill then you're only somewhat right. Its more of a whiping boy than a real lackey though.) -- | Matthew N. Dodd | 78 280Z | 75 164E | 84 245DL | FreeBSD/NetBSD/Sprite/VMS | | winter@jurai.net | This Space For Rent | ix86,sparc,m68k,pmax,vax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | Are you k-rad elite enough for my webpage? | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 3:56:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CCA1502A for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:56:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id FAA13065; Wed, 26 May 1999 05:56:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 05:56:01 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199905261056.FAA13065@ns1.cioe.com> To: ayan@kiwi.datasys.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, steve@cioe.com Subject: Re: UID Limits In-Reply-To: <199905251844.OAA02733@kiwi.datasys.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah, I just didn't know. I fired up 'vipw' and just changed a UID to an arbitraily large number and vipw returned thustly: vipw: rebuilding the database... pwd_mkdb: 1011045 > max uid value (65535) However it took it. I can chown a file over and it appears to work correclty. I can then remove the user from the password database and look at the file on the system with 'ls': -rw-r--r-- 1 1011045 wheel 0 May 26 05:52 i So the filesystem is ok with it... so other than one warning message in 'pwd_mkdb' it seems to be that you can have more than 65535... Am I missing something dangerous here? -Steve > /usr/include/sys/types.h defines uid_t as a u_int32_t. > > /usr/include/sys/inttypes.h typedefs u_int32_t to __int32_t. > > /usr/include/machine/ansi.h typedefs __int32_t to int. > > So, uid_t is an int. > > sizeof( int ) on my 4.0-CURRENT machine is 4 bytes. > > 2^32 = 4294967296 > > So, I think thats how many UIDs we can have. Is that right > everyone? If so, thats a lot of UIDs. > > -Ayan > > > [ Quoted message from Steve Ames, recieved May 25, 1:24pm.] > > > > > This is probably a silly question... how many UIDs can I have on a > > single system? UID seems to be an int type so I'd say around > > 65000ish. Rcently, however, I heard of a Solaris upgrade that would > > allow it to go into the millions and wondered about FreeBSD... > > > > -Steve > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > [ End message from Steve Ames. ] > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 5:52:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.datasys.net (kiwi.datasys.net [209.119.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AAD150EA for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 05:52:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ayan@kiwi.datasys.net) Received: (from ayan@localhost) by kiwi.datasys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10076; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:52:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ayan) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:52:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayan George Message-Id: <199905261252.IAA10076@kiwi.datasys.net> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: Steve Ames , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UID Limits Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, pwd_mkdb compares the UID with USHRT_MAX. I wonder if there is a macro that defines the maximum GID and UID like: #define UID_MAX UINT_MAX; #define GID_MAX UINT_MAX; I couldn't find it anywhere in the source but if there is one out there, I imagine pwd_mkdb should use it. [ Quoted message from Steve Ames, recieved May 26, 5:56am.] > > Yeah, I just didn't know. I fired up 'vipw' and just changed a UID > to an arbitraily large number and vipw returned thustly: > > vipw: rebuilding the database... > pwd_mkdb: 1011045 > max uid value (65535) > > However it took it. I can chown a file over and it appears to work > correclty. I can then remove the user from the password database > and look at the file on the system with 'ls': > > -rw-r--r-- 1 1011045 wheel 0 May 26 05:52 i > > So the filesystem is ok with it... so other than one warning > message in 'pwd_mkdb' it seems to be that you can have more than > 65535... > > Am I missing something dangerous here? > > -Steve > [ End message from Steve Ames. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 7:48: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDD614D0C for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:47:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA07515 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:47:45 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:47:45 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Cyclades Z Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Has anyone got FreeBSD 3.2 running with Cyclades Z? I'm trying use one PII 350MHz (BX) 64M RAM, but after connection with modem (dialin) my system FREEZE!!! Are there any problem with cz driver from cyclades? I made one test using another motherboard and I found same problem. Are there any problem with cyclades-Z 32 in FreeBSD 3.2? I'm using Cyclades in interrupt mode with cz118 driver. Can anyone help me in this case? Thanks, Paulo Fragoso. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 9:12: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dexter.lcsd2.org (unknown [209.181.17.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1286B151B3 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tstevenson@lcsd2.org) Received: from dublin ([137.90.159.11]) by dexter.lcsd2.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id KAA81098 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:11:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tstevenson@lcsd2.org) From: "Travis Stevenson" To: Subject: Recommended Multiport Card Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:10:56 -0600 Message-ID: <000301bea792$5660f090$0b9f5a89@dublin.lcsd2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What multiport cards do any of you guy's recommend for Dialin access on FreeBSD 3.2. Travis Stevenson Network Engineer Lincoln County School District #2 tstevenson@lcsd2.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 11: 2:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EB615683 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:01:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from [216.61.218.5] (mac.tcworks.net [216.61.218.5]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA52486 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:05:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000301bea792$5660f090$0b9f5a89@dublin.lcsd2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:02:13 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Chris Cook Subject: Re: Recommended Multiport Card Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >What multiport cards do any of you guy's recommend for Dialin access >on FreeBSD 3.2. > How many modems are you going to need? Chris Cook The Computer Works 501-329-9144 http://www.tcworks.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 11:58: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasquatch.dannyland.org (sasquatch.dannyland.org [207.229.158.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD1E315521 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:58:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@sasquatch.dannyland.org) Received: (qmail 24228 invoked by uid 1000); 26 May 1999 18:58:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:58:02 -0500 From: dannyman To: Stuart Henderson Cc: OCD Support , Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command-line Adduser? Message-ID: <19990526135802.U11343@dannyland.org> References: <003701bea096$75bcd240$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> <37406815.427C73D0@eclipse.net.uk> <37406DC1.F7E66088@kawartha.com> <37406FD7.EA96EEC2@eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <37406FD7.EA96EEC2@eclipse.net.uk>; from Stuart Henderson on Mon, May 17, 1999 at 08:36:55PM +0100 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 08:36:55PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > If this is of no help, let me know.. we have a quick perl script > > here I wrote quite some time ago to do this.. > > adduser is itself a perl script, it just uses 'pw' to do the work. > that's probably why -batch just returns, adduser was written before pw, and does things the hard and scary way. Don't use adduser, use pw, or write your own. Once things settle here at the new job I'll be releasing a script that calls pw. -danny -- dannyman - http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 12:50:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from isot.com (isot.com [208.14.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5E0155BD for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from felix@isot.com) Received: from www (multibyte.net [208.14.213.7]) by isot.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA67272 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:50:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from felix@isot.com) Message-ID: <010301bea7b0$cb7c5b80$07d50ed0@multibyte.net> From: "Felix" To: "FreeBSD-ISP" Subject: Ascend Max4048 Radius Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:48:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're running FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE w/ Ascend Radius. Everything seems to work ok with USR TotalControl box, but with Ascend Max4048 box strange things happen and need some assistance. When we dial in with Win95/98 workstations, many times it gets to a point "Verifying username and password", and then hangs up with "Cannot negociate dialup network protocols". If we keep trying, we eventually gets in, say maybe 1 out of 7 tries. And sometimes, it doesn't even get to the point "verifying username and password", and it hangs up with "Server is not answering" eventhough I can hear connecting sound and all. We didn't have this problem with USR TC box, it all started when we added the Ascend Max4048. Seems the Ascend Radius damon works well with USR but not with Ascend. Has anyone experienced this problem? Help! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 13:56:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0099415700 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 2488"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FCC00HN7Y4ET0@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:55:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA01688; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:55:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:55:24 -0400 From: jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu Subject: Re: Ascend Max4048 Radius In-reply-to: <010301bea7b0$cb7c5b80$07d50ed0@multibyte.net>; from Felix on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:48:58PM -0500 To: FreeBSD-ISP Mail-followup-to: FreeBSD-ISP Message-id: <19990526165524.B482@osfmail.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Operating-System: OSF1 alpha References: <010301bea7b0$cb7c5b80$07d50ed0@multibyte.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:48:58PM -0500, Felix wrote: > We didn't have this problem with USR TC box, it all started when we added > the Ascend Max4048. Seems the Ascend Radius damon works well with USR but > not with Ascend. > Has anyone experienced this problem? Help! I've had a lot of good luck with Cistron Radius: http://www.miquels.cistron.nl/radius/ I've driven Portmasters and Ascend Max's off of it without any difficulty. I suppose you could also look into the possibility that the Ascend box is misconfigured in some way. -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 14:22:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529C314DD3 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:22:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA31920; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:21:43 -0400 Message-ID: <19990526172142.J18148@intrepid.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:21:42 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Felix , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Ascend Max4048 Radius References: <010301bea7b0$cb7c5b80$07d50ed0@multibyte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <010301bea7b0$cb7c5b80$07d50ed0@multibyte.net>; from Felix on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:48:58PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:48:58PM -0500, Felix wrote: > We're running FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE w/ Ascend Radius. Everything seems to > work ok with USR TotalControl box, but with Ascend Max4048 box strange > things happen and need some assistance. > > When we dial in with Win95/98 workstations, many times it gets to a point > "Verifying username and password", and then hangs up with "Cannot negociate > dialup network protocols". If we keep trying, we eventually gets in, say > maybe 1 out of 7 tries. And sometimes, it doesn't even get to the point > "verifying username and password", and it hangs up with "Server is not > answering" eventhough I can hear connecting sound and all. > > We didn't have this problem with USR TC box, it all started when we added > the Ascend Max4048. Seems the Ascend Radius damon works well with USR but > not with Ascend. Silly question: Are you sure it's the radius? The "Verifying username and password" is pretty bogus -- it can mean lots of things, including that fact that your customer may be having a hard time synching with your MAX. My guess is that it's a modem compatibility problem and has nothing to do with radius. I've never used the TC boxes before. I've heard bad things about them (like the lack of OSPF), but one nice thing I've heard about them is that the modems are *rock solid*. Seems like everyone with can connect to them. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 19:47:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F227114DFC for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:47:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@staff.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manor.msen.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12250 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:46:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Message-Id: <199905270246.WAA12250@manor.msen.com> To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DNS shim? From: "Michael R. Wayne" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:46:58 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need to permanently shut down one of our DNS servers. This machine is located remotely using an IP address that can not be easily moved. The problem is that lots of users have stuck it's IP address into thir resolv.conf files or Win95/98 registries. I wrote some daemons that camp on a bunch of machines and track DNS utilization by user (don't ask :-). Repeated email messages and even phone calls have not convinced them to change their setup. Now, I could just shut it off but all the web surfers will see a long pause on every page and they'll complain. Doable but ugly. So, here's my thought. Drop a program on this machine that examines every DNS lookup. If the hostname starts with "www.", we'll assume they are browsing and return a fixed IP address that, regardless of URL, points to a page that says "Fix your machine" and gives instructions. If the hostname is anything else, return normal DNS. This looks to be a non-trivial hack. I'm wondering if anyone has already solved this problem? /\/\ \/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 20:22:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE3914D85; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id WAA92247; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:18:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:18:48 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199905270318.WAA92247@ns1.cioe.com> To: ayan@kiwi.datasys.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, steve@cioe.com Subject: Re: UID Limits Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199905261252.IAA10076@kiwi.datasys.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dunno. The IPC code uses ushrt as the type for uid... couldn't find anything else that does. Is this vestigial? I'm CC-ing this to 'freebsd-hackers' since I think we're outside the pervue of 'freebsd-isp' at this point... The question is "What is the maximum UID?". Its either a 2 or 4 byte unsigned integer. The filesystem seems to accept 4, pwd_mkdb complains about larger than 2 but lets you do it... -Steve > Yes, pwd_mkdb compares the UID with USHRT_MAX. I wonder if there > is a macro that defines the maximum GID and UID like: > > #define UID_MAX UINT_MAX; > #define GID_MAX UINT_MAX; > > I couldn't find it anywhere in the source but if there is one out > there, I imagine pwd_mkdb should use it. > > [ Quoted message from Steve Ames, recieved May 26, 5:56am.] > > > > > Yeah, I just didn't know. I fired up 'vipw' and just changed a UID > > to an arbitraily large number and vipw returned thustly: > > > > vipw: rebuilding the database... > > pwd_mkdb: 1011045 > max uid value (65535) > > > > However it took it. I can chown a file over and it appears to work > > correclty. I can then remove the user from the password database > > and look at the file on the system with 'ls': > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 1011045 wheel 0 May 26 05:52 i > > > > So the filesystem is ok with it... so other than one warning > > message in 'pwd_mkdb' it seems to be that you can have more than > > 65535... > > > > Am I missing something dangerous here? > > > > -Steve > > > > [ End message from Steve Ames. ] > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 26 20:33:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from well.apcs.com.au (well.apcs.com.au [203.41.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA2A15065 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith@well.apcs.com.au) Received: (from keith@localhost) by well.apcs.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA69395; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:27:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from keith) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199905270246.WAA12250@manor.msen.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:27:47 +1000 (EST) From: Keith Anderson To: "Michael R. Wayne" Subject: RE: DNS shim? Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Micheal I would use ipnat and forward the request to a local DNS server Keith On 27-May-99 Michael R. Wayne wrote: > > I need to permanently shut down one of our DNS servers. This > machine is located remotely using an IP address that can not be > easily moved. The problem is that lots of users have stuck it's > IP address into thir resolv.conf files or Win95/98 registries. I > wrote some daemons that camp on a bunch of machines and track DNS > utilization by user (don't ask :-). Repeated email messages and > even phone calls have not convinced them to change their setup. > > Now, I could just shut it off but all the web surfers will see a > long pause on every page and they'll complain. Doable but ugly. > > So, here's my thought. Drop a program on this machine that examines > every DNS lookup. If the hostname starts with "www.", we'll assume > they are browsing and return a fixed IP address that, regardless > of URL, points to a page that says "Fix your machine" and gives > instructions. If the hostname is anything else, return normal DNS. > > This looks to be a non-trivial hack. I'm wondering if anyone has > already solved this problem? > > /\/\ \/\/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message "The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed FreeBSD." ** The thing I like most about Windows 98 is... ** You can download FreeBSD with it! ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Keith Anderson Australia Power Control Systems Pty. Limited. Date: 27-May-99 Time: 13:26:59 Satelite Service 64K to 2Meg This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- What's the similarity between an air conditioner and a computer? They both stop working when you open windows. ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 1:11:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.yore.net (www.yore.net [38.193.45.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AAC14E9D for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbagby@yore.net) Received: from bagby1 (nas1-39.yore.net [38.193.45.53]) by www.yore.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA12759 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 03:10:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rbagby@yore.net) Message-ID: <002b01bea818$7660f620$352dc126@bagby1> From: "Ray Bagby" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Change Local Mail Directory Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 03:10:35 -0500 Organization: yore.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I need some help with moving our users' mail boxes to another directory, it would be best if it were their home directories. That way we could Quota their e-mail usage easier. The biggest problem is we didn't allow enough room in /var when we set up and now we are running into "file system full" situations. We moved most of the logging and the mail queue but we still don't have near the room we will need with more users. Thanks! Ray Bagby, Tech. Dir. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 1:32:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from well.apcs.com.au (well.apcs.com.au [203.41.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC4E14E9D for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith@well.apcs.com.au) Received: (from keith@localhost) by well.apcs.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA70085; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:26:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from keith) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002b01bea818$7660f620$352dc126@bagby1> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:26:08 +1000 (EST) From: Keith Anderson To: Ray Bagby Subject: RE: Change Local Mail Directory Cc: FreeBSD ISP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I had the same prob and had to fix it quick I just added another drive coppied the mail accross and moved the mounting point to the new drive. I also added quota Keith On 27-May-99 Ray Bagby wrote: > Greetings, > I need some help with moving our users' mail boxes to another directory, > it would be best if it were their home directories. That way we could Quota > their e-mail usage easier. The biggest problem is we didn't allow enough > room in /var when we set up and now we are running into "file system full" > situations. We moved most of the logging and the mail queue but we still > don't have near the room we will need with more users. > > Thanks! > > Ray Bagby, Tech. Dir. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message "The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed FreeBSD." ** The thing I like most about Windows 98 is... ** You can download FreeBSD with it! ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Keith Anderson Australia Power Control Systems Pty. Limited. Date: 27-May-99 Time: 18:23:13 Satelite Service 64K to 2Meg This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- What's the similarity between an air conditioner and a computer? They both stop working when you open windows. ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 6:43:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rio.i-plus.net (rio.i-plus.net [209.100.20.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA6514EB8 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 06:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-Plus.net) Received: from localhost (st@localhost) by rio.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29581; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Settle To: Ray Bagby Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Change Local Mail Directory In-Reply-To: <002b01bea818$7660f620$352dc126@bagby1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ray, We did this, and love having mailboxes in people's home directories. We did this by using procmail as the local mailer, cucipop as the popper. For both of these, check authenticate.c for details on how to set it to deliver to $HOME/.mail For imap/pine/pop3d (c-client) check the sysinbox() function in src/osdep/unix/env_unix.c I haven't yet taken the time to figure out elm or mutt source, but they can be easily handled from a shell alias. One utility that get's broken, is finger. I've not yet taken the time to patch it up to make it look in $HOME/.mail for mail info on users. Good luck, -- Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services On Thu, 27 May 1999, Ray Bagby wrote: > Greetings, > I need some help with moving our users' mail boxes to another directory, > it would be best if it were their home directories. That way we could Quota > their e-mail usage easier. The biggest problem is we didn't allow enough > room in /var when we set up and now we are running into "file system full" > situations. We moved most of the logging and the mail queue but we still > don't have near the room we will need with more users. > > Thanks! > > Ray Bagby, Tech. Dir. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 7: 8:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from megamail.megared.net.mx (www.megacable.com.mx [207.249.163.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A28E514FA9 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 07:08:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from [207.249.163.249] by megamail.megared.net.mx (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.ab3r) with ESMTP id fa248955 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:05:44 -0500 Message-ID: <002901bea84a$1732bd00$f9a3f9cf@megared.net.mx> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alejandro_Ram=EDrez?= To: "Ray Bagby" , "FreeBSD ISP" References: <002b01bea818$7660f620$352dc126@bagby1> Subject: RE: Change Local Mail Directory Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:06:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, You could check this page, it will explain how to do what you want. http://freebsd.peon.net/cgi-bin/tutorials.html.cgi?file=8 Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Bagby To: FreeBSD ISP Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 3:10 AM Subject: Change Local Mail Directory > Greetings, > I need some help with moving our users' mail boxes to another directory, > it would be best if it were their home directories. That way we could Quota > their e-mail usage easier. The biggest problem is we didn't allow enough > room in /var when we set up and now we are running into "file system full" > situations. We moved most of the logging and the mail queue but we still > don't have near the room we will need with more users. > > Thanks! > > Ray Bagby, Tech. Dir. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 7:16:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lusardi.com (mail.lusardi.com [207.215.158.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CA71589C for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 07:16:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erinf@lusardi.com) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 27 May 1999 07:11:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: Erin Fortenberry To: Ray Bagby Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: RE: Change Local Mail Directory Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:11:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What I did is remove the /var/mail directory and link /var/mail to /usr/spool/mail. I had to reset up the premissions on the directory, but everything works good. Since mail is now on my /usr directory it is subject to the quotas. Hope this helps, or atleast gives you an idea or two. Erin mailto:kahn@deadbbs.com http://www.fortenberry.net "Can i dial 1-255-255-255255 and make every phone in the world ring?" -- Tanuki On Thu, 27 May 1999, Ray Bagby wrote: > Greetings, > I need some help with moving our users' mail boxes to another directory, > it would be best if it were their home directories. That way we could Quota > their e-mail usage easier. The biggest problem is we didn't allow enough > room in /var when we set up and now we are running into "file system full" > situations. We moved most of the logging and the mail queue but we still > don't have near the room we will need with more users. > > Thanks! > > Ray Bagby, Tech. Dir. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 8:38:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wizard.teksupport.net.au (wizard.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F44014E63 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Received: from warlock.teksupport.net.au (warlock.teksupport.net.au [203.26.69.3]) by wizard.teksupport.net.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA00941 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 01:38:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <006401bea856$008f55c0$03451acb@teksupport.net.au> From: "Rob Secombe" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: biodone: buffer already done Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 01:31:33 +1000 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We just had one of our servers spontaneously reboot. This machine is running FreeBSD 2.1.7 RELEASE and has been running flawlessly for 2 years, up until now. The last entry in the syslog prior to reboot was: /kernel biodone: buffer already done Could one of you kernel gurus please tell me what this means and is there something I can do to prevent it happening again. Thanks Rob Secombe Teksupport Pty. Ltd. Melbourne Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 13:20: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blues.ghis.net (pppc1-37.eisa.net.au [203.166.251.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DB0159DB for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@blues.ghis.net) Received: (from jim@localhost) by blues.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA25402; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:19:04 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:19:03 +1000 From: Jim Mock To: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Cc: isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: collect: unexpected close on connection Message-ID: <19990528061903.A25342@blues.ghis.net> Reply-To: jim@blues.ghis.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone tell me what would cause the following error? May 26 14:32:51 rock sendmail[86531]: OAA86531: collect: unexpected close on connection from cust-168-126.as02.phnx.eli.net, sender=: Undefined error: 0 This customer is having a hard time sending mail.. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and that's the only thing I get in my logs. The error they receive on their end is.. No transport provider was available for delivery to this recipient. I've never seen either error before, and I'm totally stumped. I checked the sendmail FAQ, and there was nothing there about it either. Any ideas? Thanks, -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - FreeBSD: http://advocacy.freebsd.org/ - jim@advocacy.FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 13:22:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from katroo.Sendmail.COM (katroo.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4C015111 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:22:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@sendmail.com) Received: from scooter.sendmail.com (gshapiro@scooter.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.23]) by katroo.Sendmail.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01977; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by scooter.sendmail.com (8.10.0.PreAlpha2/8.10.0.PreAlpha2) id d4RKML132614; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14157.43389.382946.220240@scooter.sendmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: jim@blues.ghis.net Cc: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org, isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: collect: unexpected close on connection In-Reply-To: <19990528061903.A25342@blues.ghis.net> References: <19990528061903.A25342@blues.ghis.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.2 "Dionysos" XEmacs Lucid (beta14) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim> Can anyone tell me what would cause the following error? Jim> May 26 14:32:51 rock sendmail[86531]: OAA86531: collect: unexpected Jim> close on connection from cust-168-126.as02.phnx.eli.net, Jim> sender=: Undefined error: 0 Jim> This customer is having a hard time sending mail.. sometimes it works, Jim> sometimes it doesn't, and that's the only thing I get in my logs. The Jim> error they receive on their end is.. Jim> No transport provider was available for delivery to this recipient. Jim> I've never seen either error before, and I'm totally stumped. I Jim> checked the sendmail FAQ, and there was nothing there about it either. Jim> Any ideas? The error on their end looks like it is coming from either Outlook or Eudora. Some poorly written MUAs have the habit of simply dropping the connect when the mail server returns an error. Since your syslog shows the problem is in collect, they must have gotten as far as the DATA phase. It could be an MTU problem as described in the FAQ: http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.10 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 15:52:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tccsweb.com (h139-142-234-33.cg.FiberONE.NET [139.142.234.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A2A159C1 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Received: from brent.tccsweb.com (brent.tccsweb.com [139.142.234.31]) by mail.tccsweb.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04408 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:50:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Message-ID: <374DCC33.794BDF32@tccsweb.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:50:27 -0600 From: Brent Rector Organization: TCCSweb.com + SOHOSTed.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: DNS Lookup How to get list... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know how to pull a list of all domain names that are recorded with Network Solutions for a particular nameserver. I was just wondering who has parked their domain names using my nameservers without my knowing about it? Thanks for any help... Brent Rector -- ========================================================================= TCCSweb.com SOHOSTed.com - Purveyors of fine domain hosting services! Brent L. Rector Phone: +1-403-270-3361 Fax: +1-403-283-0688 ICQ: 1430007 http://www.tccsweb.com email: brentr@tccsweb.com ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 16: 6: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F35E15A2A for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 5942 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:44:37 -0000 Received: from file.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:44:37 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990527155335.0108ebe0@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:00:37 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Video Server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know this isn't the right forum for this, but I'm looking for leads and would appreciate any help. I have a client who wants to stream live music broadcasts. (both video and audio of concerts) He wants to arrange the browser into frames in the following way, a main frame in the middle would display the video/audio stream. One frame on the side would allow the viewer to click to buy a CD of the current artist. A frame below would ba a chat room for all people viewing the site. I can find or write the javascript to do the chat frame and the "click her to buy" frame, but I'm wondering if anyone knows of a good video server aside from the Realserver G2? The client doesn't exactly know what he wants. He says he wants it to do jpeg push straight into the browsers without plugins. Any ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 16:45:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [207.173.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E790615093 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfesler@gigo.com) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [207.173.133.57]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490F8322; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Deepwell Internet Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video Server In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990527155335.0108ebe0@mail1.dcomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The client doesn't exactly know what he wants. He says he wants it to do > jpeg push straight into the browsers without plugins. Any ideas? jpeg push won't do audio.. apple's quicktime is supposed to be pretty decent wiht the most recent stuff; otherwise I'd probably put money on realaudio. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 16:52:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from almazs.pacex.net (almazs.pacex.net [204.1.219.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA703151A9 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielb@almazs.pacex.net) Received: from localhost (danielb@localhost) by almazs.pacex.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA18150; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:52:21 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel B To: Rob Secombe Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: biodone: buffer already done In-Reply-To: <006401bea856$008f55c0$03451acb@teksupport.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am not a kernel guru but I had exactly the same problem!! It happened to me when my SCSI controller card was about to hickup and during automatic backup session (high data transfers) my disk would freeze-up (red LED on all the time) and I would see the error message: /kernel biodone: buffer already done but my machine did not auto reboot. The problem is mostlikely in your SCSI host adopter (if you are using one and you get a SCSI timeout error message as well) Or your disk has some bad sectors and is about to give up Consider yourself lucky and do a backup!! I had to replace my SCSI controller and the disk as well which was degraded by the controller problem. Dan On Fri, 28 May 1999, Rob Secombe wrote: > Hi, > > We just had one of our servers spontaneously reboot. This machine is > running FreeBSD 2.1.7 RELEASE and has been running flawlessly for 2 years, > up until now. The last entry in the syslog prior to reboot was: > > /kernel biodone: buffer already done > > Could one of you kernel gurus please tell me what this means and is there > something I can do to prevent it happening again. > > Thanks > > Rob Secombe > Teksupport Pty. Ltd. > Melbourne Australia > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 18:11:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from moat.teksupport.net.au (moat.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DF414E3D for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Received: from magician.teksupport.net.au (magician.teksupport.net.au [192.168.1.2]) by moat.teksupport.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14855 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990528111057.00b26bc0@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au> X-Sender: robseco@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:57 +1000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rob Secombe Subject: Re: biodone: buffer already done In-Reply-To: References: <006401bea856$008f55c0$03451acb@teksupport.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Dan, Yeah, it would have been backing up SCSI --> SCSI DAT Tape at the time that it fell over. No sign of media errors in the logs though. Cheers Rob. At 16:52 27-05-99 -0700, you wrote: >I am not a kernel guru but I had exactly the same problem!! >It happened to me when my SCSI controller card was about to hickup and >during automatic backup session (high data transfers) my disk would >freeze-up (red LED on all the time) and I would see the error message: > >/kernel biodone: buffer already done > >but my machine did not auto reboot. >The problem is mostlikely in your SCSI host adopter (if you are using one >and you get a SCSI timeout error message as well) >Or your disk has some bad sectors and is about to give up >Consider yourself lucky and do a backup!! >I had to replace my SCSI controller and the disk as well which was >degraded by the controller problem. > > >Dan > >On Fri, 28 May 1999, Rob Secombe wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We just had one of our servers spontaneously reboot. This machine is >> running FreeBSD 2.1.7 RELEASE and has been running flawlessly for 2 years, >> up until now. The last entry in the syslog prior to reboot was: >> >> /kernel biodone: buffer already done >> >> Could one of you kernel gurus please tell me what this means and is there >> something I can do to prevent it happening again. >> >> Thanks >> >> Rob Secombe >> Teksupport Pty. Ltd. >> Melbourne Australia >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 27 19:52:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A046B15945 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:52:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA16757; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:22:16 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA09096; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:22:15 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:22:15 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Rob Secombe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: biodone: buffer already done Message-ID: <19990528122215.Q5509@freebie.lemis.com> References: <006401bea856$008f55c0$03451acb@teksupport.net.au> <3.0.5.32.19990528111057.00b26bc0@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990528111057.00b26bc0@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au>; from Rob Secombe on Fri, May 28, 1999 at 11:10:57AM +1000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 28 May 1999 at 11:10:57 +1000, Rob Secombe wrote: > At 16:52 27-05-99 -0700, you wrote: >> On Fri, 28 May 1999, Rob Secombe wrote: >>> We just had one of our servers spontaneously reboot. This machine is >>> running FreeBSD 2.1.7 RELEASE and has been running flawlessly for 2 years, >>> up until now. The last entry in the syslog prior to reboot was: >>> >>> /kernel biodone: buffer already done >>> >>> Could one of you kernel gurus please tell me what this means and is there >>> something I can do to prevent it happening again. >> >> I am not a kernel guru but I had exactly the same problem!! >> It happened to me when my SCSI controller card was about to hickup and >> during automatic backup session (high data transfers) my disk would >> freeze-up (red LED on all the time) and I would see the error message: >> >> /kernel biodone: buffer already done >> >> but my machine did not auto reboot. >> The problem is mostlikely in your SCSI host adopter (if you are using one >> and you get a SCSI timeout error message as well) >> Or your disk has some bad sectors and is about to give up >> Consider yourself lucky and do a backup!! >> I had to replace my SCSI controller and the disk as well which was >> degraded by the controller problem. > > Yeah, it would have been backing up SCSI --> SCSI DAT Tape at the time that > it fell over. No sign of media errors in the logs though. Sorry, I just saw this. The message is indicative of a logic problem in the SCSI code which handles exception conditions, and it's probably not the real problem, just a symptom of the problem. Were you able to get a dump? If so, that should help you further. Of course, 2.1.7 isn't exactly the newest version of the system any more, and there's a very good chance that the same behaviour won't occur on 3.2-RELEASE, since the SCSI code has been completely rewritten. I'd be interested to hear of your configuration. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 28 2:55: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from carme.eclipse.net.uk (carme.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F4114C41 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by carme.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.x) with ESMTP id KAA27926; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:55:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <374E613D.9456AD7A@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:26:21 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brent Rector Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Lookup How to get list... References: <374DCC33.794BDF32@tccsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does anyone know how to pull a list of all domain names that are > recorded with Network Solutions for a particular nameserver. They have an online form that allows you to request that info, they will email it to you and can send regular reports. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 28 3:23:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (unknown [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBC114CC9 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 03:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@invicta.net) Received: from mail (mail.mad-cow.org.uk [195.74.110.26]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA18003 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:23:43 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" To: Subject: RE: DNS Lookup How to get list... Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:23:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bea8f4$1fe76ea0$1a6e4ac3@mail.mad-cow.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <374E613D.9456AD7A@eclipse.net.uk> Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anybody ever had one of these "regular reports". I ask for them every time I ask for a list of domains but I have never received a list without asking for it first. Martyn ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: +44 (0)1233 334000 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001   ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Stuart Henderson Sent: 28 May 1999 10:26 To: Brent Rector Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Lookup How to get list... > Does anyone know how to pull a list of all domain names that are > recorded with Network Solutions for a particular nameserver. They have an online form that allows you to request that info, they will email it to you and can send regular reports. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 28 5: 5:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDAA14D65 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 05:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27733; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:05:35 -0400 Message-ID: <19990528080535.A24389@intrepid.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:05:35 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Brent Rector , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Lookup How to get list... References: <374DCC33.794BDF32@tccsweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <374DCC33.794BDF32@tccsweb.com>; from Brent Rector on Thu, May 27, 1999 at 04:50:27PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 04:50:27PM -0600, Brent Rector wrote: > Does anyone know how to pull a list of all domain names that are > recorded with Network Solutions for a particular nameserver. > > I was just wondering who has parked their domain names using my > nameservers without my knowing about it? Yes and no. If you find out your DNS server's NIC handle with whois, i.e., whois and then query the whois server: whois server you will get a list. I say "no" becuase the service is broken and will only return 50 domains.... --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 28 6:46: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.visi.com (baal.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63041531F for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@rhavenn.net) Received: from Merlin.visi.com (170-112.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.170.112]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id IAA23534 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:46:03 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:46:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990528084751.0079ad50@mail.trlinks.com> X-Sender: rhavenn@mail.trlinks.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:47:51 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Henrik Hudson Subject: RE: DNS Lookup How to get list... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Has anybody ever had one of these "regular reports". I ask for them every >time I ask for a list of domains but I have never received a list without >asking for it first. I used to get them regulary about a year ago, but now even though I request monthly updates I still have to request them everytime :( Sometime before this last Christmas, that feature seemed to stop working. Henrik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 28 6:59:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from accn2.accn.org (accn2.accn.org [207.73.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957A414BE9 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:59:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryanm@accn.org) Received: from accn.org (rocky.accn.org [207.73.64.8]) by accn2.accn.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06028 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374EA0A5.E583AA5@accn.org> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:56:53 -0400 From: ryanm Reply-To: ryanm@accn.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Cucipop + 3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone gotten cucipop to compile under FreeBSD?? I have installed the Berkely db version 2.7.3 and when i go to build the executables I get the following: cc -O -DUSE_DB -c cucipop.c -o cucipop.o cucipop.c: In function `main': cucipop.c:721: warning: passing arg 4 of `setsockopt' from incompatible pointer type cc -O -DUSE_DB -c authenticate.c -o authenticate.o In file included from authenticate.c:58: sdb.h:4: db2/db.h: No such file or directory make: *** [authenticate.o] Error 1 Now the default install of Berkely went into /usr/local/BerkelyDB so I added a -I/usr/local/BerkeleyDB/include to the gcc line but it still is having issues compiling. If anyone has a guide for a FreeBSD or Solaris install I would appreciate it. Thanks a bundle, Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 28 9:31:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from almazs.pacex.net (almazs.pacex.net [204.1.219.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF221551E for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielb@almazs.pacex.net) Received: from localhost (danielb@localhost) by almazs.pacex.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA20481; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:31:01 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel B To: Rob Secombe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: biodone: buffer already done In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990528111057.00b26bc0@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok! so you know where to look for trouble from here. If no media errors then get a spare SCSI controller and do your backups and see if you see the problem again. Dan On Fri, 28 May 1999, Rob Secombe wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Yeah, it would have been backing up SCSI --> SCSI DAT Tape at the time that > it fell over. No sign of media errors in the logs though. > > Cheers > > Rob. > > At 16:52 27-05-99 -0700, you wrote: > >I am not a kernel guru but I had exactly the same problem!! > >It happened to me when my SCSI controller card was about to hickup and > >during automatic backup session (high data transfers) my disk would > >freeze-up (red LED on all the time) and I would see the error message: > > > >/kernel biodone: buffer already done > > > >but my machine did not auto reboot. > >The problem is mostlikely in your SCSI host adopter (if you are using one > >and you get a SCSI timeout error message as well) > >Or your disk has some bad sectors and is about to give up > >Consider yourself lucky and do a backup!! > >I had to replace my SCSI controller and the disk as well which was > >degraded by the controller problem. > > > > > >Dan > > > >On Fri, 28 May 1999, Rob Secombe wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> We just had one of our servers spontaneously reboot. This machine is > >> running FreeBSD 2.1.7 RELEASE and has been running flawlessly for 2 years, > >> up until now. The last entry in the syslog prior to reboot was: > >> > >> /kernel biodone: buffer already done > >> > >> Could one of you kernel gurus please tell me what this means and is there > >> something I can do to prevent it happening again. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Rob Secombe > >> Teksupport Pty. Ltd. > >> Melbourne Australia > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 28 11:36:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244CD14DC5 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cambria@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (STD1.2/BZS-8-1.0) id OAA22407; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA09056; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:36:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:36:23 -0400 From: cambria@world.std.com (Michael C Cambria) Message-Id: <199905281836.AA09056@world.std.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: pppd, pp= and userid Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, First, thanks to all for your prior help in my effort to get pppd to run using pp=/usr/sbin/pppd. When I upgraded from 2.2.6-Release to 3.1-Release, pppd magically started on the first try. I thought 2.2.6 getty supported this, but in my case it didn't. I have a follow-up question on this setup. Right now, dial in users have regular accounts. Do I have to do this? In other words, does a dialin pppd user have to send login and password, then "ppp", or can they simply start sending ppp (e.g. PAP/CHAP when auth is specified) and have FreeBSD only use pap|chap-secrets to authenticate the remote end? Thanks, MikeC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 30 17:26: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from twin-city.net (unknown [208.8.246.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C5714CB1 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@twin-city.net) X-Transmitted-to: hub.freebsd.org [204.216.27.18] ;Sun, 30 May 1999 17:41:05 -0700 Received: from ras (ras.twin-city.net [208.8.246.195]) by twin-city.net (Viking/1.04-290) with SMTP for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:40:44 -0700 Message-ID: <005301beaafc$b6198980$c3f608d0@ras.twin-city.net> Subject: Cyclades Ze help... PLEASE! Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:29:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 To: From: "Mark Koskenmaki" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running 3.1-R and have compiled the latest drivers from cyclades into my kernel. After much messing around, I can get my card to work and the modems respond, but the performance is HORRIBLE. Ping times from a dialed in machine to my network are very slow - 250 to 300+ ms. They should be 110 to 140, depending on modem connect speed. If anyone out there is using a cyclades Ze card with any measure of success with freebsd 3.1, I REALLY need to find out what you did that i'm not doing... Twin City Internet, Milton Freewater's only hometown ISP sales@twin-city.net or mark@twin-city.net to subscribe to customer listserve send an email to: majordomo@twin-city.net with the subject "help" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 1 8:12:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A0215711; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:12:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA21687; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:12:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Steve Ames Cc: ayan@kiwi.datasys.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UID Limits References: <199905270318.WAA92247@ns1.cioe.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 01 Jun 1999 17:12:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: Steve Ames's message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 22:18:48 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [gack, let's get the Cc: right this time around] Steve Ames writes: > The question is "What is the maximum UID?". Its either a 2 or 4 > byte unsigned integer. The filesystem seems to accept 4, pwd_mkdb > complains about larger than 2 but lets you do it... pwd_mkdb warns about UIDs greater than USHRT_MAX because some old (third-party) software stores UIDs in unsigned short ints instead of uid_t and therefore does not grok large UIDs. The warning is harmless (unless you run some of that old software) and should most certainly not be changed or removed. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 1 8:14:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FD415745; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:14:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id KAA11100; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199906011514.KAA11100@ns1.cioe.com> To: des@flood.ping.uio.no, steve@cioe.com Subject: Re: UID Limits Cc: ayan@kiwi.datasys.net, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the answers on this. This certainly makes my life simpler. That 65K limit was about to become real annoying :) -Steve > From des@flood.ping.uio.no Tue Jun 1 10:12:21 1999 > To: Steve Ames > Cc: ayan@kiwi.datasys.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, > freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: UID Limits > From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav > Date: 01 Jun 1999 17:12:18 +0200 > > [gack, let's get the Cc: right this time around] > > Steve Ames writes: > > The question is "What is the maximum UID?". Its either a 2 or 4 > > byte unsigned integer. The filesystem seems to accept 4, pwd_mkdb > > complains about larger than 2 but lets you do it... > > pwd_mkdb warns about UIDs greater than USHRT_MAX because some old > (third-party) software stores UIDs in unsigned short ints instead of > uid_t and therefore does not grok large UIDs. The warning is harmless > (unless you run some of that old software) and should most certainly > not be changed or removed. > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 1 12:42:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tccsweb.com (h139-142-234-33.cg.FiberONE.NET [139.142.234.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0B415787 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Received: from brent.tccsweb.com (brent.tccsweb.com [139.142.234.31]) by mail.tccsweb.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01903 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:39:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Message-ID: <3754374C.167EB0E7@tccsweb.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 13:41:00 -0600 From: Brent Rector Organization: TCCSweb.com + SOHOSTed.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: How to reinitate exports? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey Everyone! I hope this finds everyone having a great day? Just a simple question, how do I reinitialize NFS to export new settings without downing the server completely.. Just do a -HUP on the NFS? Thanks in advance for any assistance! Brent Rector -- ========================================================================= TCCSweb.com SOHOSTed.com - Purveyors of fine domain hosting services! Brent L. Rector Phone: +1-403-270-3361 Fax: +1-403-283-0688 ICQ: 1430007 http://www.tccsweb.com email: brentr@tccsweb.com ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 1 12:47: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enterprise.ciai.net (mail.ciai.net [209.4.153.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424E41501C for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from slipmat@ciai.net) Received: from ciai.net (houze.slipmat.net [209.4.153.84]) by enterprise.ciai.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21860; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:57:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37543A8F.C5330695@ciai.net> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:54:55 -0500 From: Brian Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brent Rector Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to reinitate exports? References: <3754374C.167EB0E7@tccsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If your refering to changes ou made in /etc/exports you need to 'killall -HUP mountd' and they should take =] laterz Brian Brent Rector wrote: > > Hey Everyone! > > I hope this finds everyone having a great day? > > Just a simple question, how do I reinitialize NFS to export new settings > without downing the server completely.. Just do a -HUP on the NFS? > > Thanks in advance for any assistance! > > Brent Rector > -- > ========================================================================= > TCCSweb.com SOHOSTed.com - Purveyors of fine domain hosting services! > Brent L. Rector Phone: +1-403-270-3361 Fax: +1-403-283-0688 > ICQ: 1430007 http://www.tccsweb.com email: brentr@tccsweb.com > ========================================================================= > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 1 12:48:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cod.progroup.com (cod.progroup.com [207.44.190.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD75E15801 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Received: from progroup.com (guppy.progroup.com [207.44.190.237]) by cod.progroup.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA22644; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Message-ID: <375438F3.BB15B35C@progroup.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:48:03 -0700 From: Craig Shaver Organization: Productivity Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brent Rector Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to reinitate exports? References: <3754374C.167EB0E7@tccsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brent Rector wrote: > > Hey Everyone! > > I hope this finds everyone having a great day? > > Just a simple question, how do I reinitialize NFS to export new settings > without downing the server completely.. Just do a -HUP on the NFS? > man mountd -- Craig Shaver (craig@progroup.com) (650)390-0654 Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 1 12:52:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from netmug.org (netmug.org [204.188.144.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6C5150CE for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perl@netmug.org) Received: (from perl@localhost) by netmug.org (8.8.8/NetMUG_1.0.0) id MAA05850; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:51:47 -0700 From: Michael Haro To: Brent Rector Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to reinitate exports? Message-ID: <19990601125147.C5435@netmug.netmug.org> References: <3754374C.167EB0E7@tccsweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3754374C.167EB0E7@tccsweb.com>; from Brent Rector on Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 01:41:00PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 01:41:00PM -0600, Brent Rector wrote: > Hey Everyone! > > I hope this finds everyone having a great day? > > Just a simple question, how do I reinitialize NFS to export new settings > without downing the server completely.. Just do a -HUP on the NFS? killall -1 mountd should work, but make sure to check /var/log/messages after in case mountd doesn't like something. Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 0:29:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (www3.bulinfo.net [195.10.36.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AB8715137 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 53101 invoked from network); 2 Jun 1999 07:29:02 -0000 Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (212.72.195.7) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 07:29:02 -0000 Message-ID: <3754DD3D.B6B9ECEF@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:29:02 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev Organization: Bulinfo Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: syslogd question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everybody, We have Freebsd box with modems connected to it. Unfortunately in some situations all pppd processes are killed with HUP signal. See below: Message from syslogd@harley at Tue Jun 1 19:34:35 1999 ... harley Jun 1 19:34:35pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP) Does anybody have experience with such or similar situation. Any suggestions and advice will be welcome. Thanks in advance Krassimir Slavchev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 1: 4:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ACC.sumy.net (ACC.sim.net.ua [62.244.20.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D7715028 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:03:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pasha@sim.net.ua) Received: from sim.net.ua (GW.sumy.net [62.244.20.220]) by ACC.sumy.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05037; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:02:58 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3754E532.9DF37AD0@sim.net.ua> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:02:58 +0300 From: Pavel Narozhniy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: uk, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krassimir Slavchev Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syslogd question References: <3754DD3D.B6B9ECEF@bulinfo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > > Hi everybody, > We have Freebsd box with modems connected to it. > Unfortunately in some situations all pppd processes are killed with HUP > signal. > See below: > > Message from syslogd@harley at Tue Jun 1 19:34:35 1999 ... > harley Jun 1 19:34:35pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP) > > Does anybody have experience with such or similar situation. > Any suggestions and advice will be welcome. I can't see any strange things here. User on serial line hangs up the phone and pppd get SIGHUP signal. May be this is wrong? > Thanks in advance > > Krassimir Slavchev -- Pavel Narozhniy nic-hdl: PN395-RIPE http://www.sumy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 1:16:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satin.sensation.net.au (ethernet2-satin.Melbourne.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B78514E46 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial0-velvet.Brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by satin.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA08494 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:16:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03089 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:16:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:16:14 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syslogd question In-Reply-To: <3754E532.9DF37AD0@sim.net.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Pavel Narozhniy wrote: > Krassimir Slavchev wrote: ~ > > Message from syslogd@harley at Tue Jun 1 19:34:35 1999 ... > > harley Jun 1 19:34:35pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP) > > > > Does anybody have experience with such or similar situation. > > Any suggestions and advice will be welcome. > > I can't see any strange things here. User on serial line hangs up the > phone and pppd get SIGHUP signal. > May be this is wrong? The problem is that it's not normal: the message is sent to every term. It's also in a somewhat corrupted form with missing spaces and no pid. I have exactly the same problem occasionally. Here's one instance, I've included output from other processes which are relevant. Note the other pppd processes complaining about having an ASCII error message blasted into their PPP session... Jan 16 19:07:57 denim gated[290]: KRT SENT type DELETE(2)flags HOST(4) error 3: No such process Jan 16 19:07:57 denim gated[290]: KRT SENT dest 203.55.253.131 Jan 16 19:07:57 denim gated[290]: KRT SEND DELETE 203.55.253.131 mask 255.255.255.255 router 203.20.114.6 flags <>0: No such process Jan 16 19:07:57 denim Jan 16 19:07:57pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP) Jan 16 19:07:57 denim pppd[6079]: Modem hangup, connected for 42 minutes Jan 16 19:07:57 denim pppd[6079]: Connection terminated, connected for 42 minutes Jan 16 19:07:57 denim pppd[6079]: Couldn't restore device fd flags: Inappropriate ioctl for device Jan 16 19:07:57 denim pppd[6079]: ioctl(TIOCSETD): Inappropriate ioctl for device Jan 16 19:07:58 denim pppd[1215]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd Jan 16 19:07:58 denim pppd[6079]: tcsetattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device Jan 16 19:07:58 denim pppd[14450]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd Jan 16 19:08:02 denim pppd[3041]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd Jan 16 19:08:02 denim pppd[11786]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd Jan 16 19:08:02 denim pppd[15643]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd Jan 16 19:08:02 denim pppd[14199]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd Jan 16 19:08:02 denim pppd[8600]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 2:10:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EA315137 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 02:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akm@mail.theinternet.com.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28505; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:12:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <199906020912.TAA28505@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: syslogd question In-Reply-To: <3754DD3D.B6B9ECEF@bulinfo.net> from Krassimir Slavchev at "Jun 2, 1999 10:29: 2 am" To: krassi@bulinfo.net (Krassimir Slavchev) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:12:53 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +----[ Krassimir Slavchev ]--------------------------------------------- | Hi everybody, | We have Freebsd box with modems connected to it. | Unfortunately in some situations all pppd processes are killed with HUP | signal. | See below: | | Message from syslogd@harley at Tue Jun 1 19:34:35 1999 ... | harley Jun 1 19:34:35pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP) | | Does anybody have experience with such or similar situation. | Any suggestions and advice will be welcome. | I used to get this quite often with 2.2.6, since upgrading to 3.x-stable I don't recall seeing it at all since January. That all might be coincidence, or maybe the customer that was causing it has since left us. I don't recall seeing it with 2.2.2 either. This is with modems connected to cyclades ISA cyclom-Y in all cases. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | Milton ACN: 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 |72 Col .Sig PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au|Specialist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 3:32:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satin.sensation.net.au (ethernet2-satin.Melbourne.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528D015880 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 03:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial0-velvet.Brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by satin.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA19560 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:32:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03579 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:32:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:32:00 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: monitoring at the packet level Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I am currently working on a monitoring system which does more than simple byte counting, it instead monitors connections. Output can be sorted by most popular source host, most popular destination host, most popular source port, most popular destination port. As it's just a test of concept right now, it's basically tcpdump piped to a program that converts the ASCII output into binary form for its own internal use. (As a bonus this makes it a little portable, assuming the target platform has a similar tcpdump) The problem with tcpdump (and I presume BPF in general) is that it applies only to specific interfaces - if I have 15 ppp* interfaces this means I'll need to have 15 BPFs open! I'm concerned about the load on the machine and the general "non scaleability" of this method. Obviously a better way would be to snoop on packets as they pass through the lowest level kernel processing. Perhaps an ipfw tee socket might help here? I have zero programming experience with tee sockets and very little with sockets in general - as C is not my normal language of choice I tend to program from first principles without getting too caught up in system specific calls. :) Anyway, I'm posting here in the hope that someone has done something like this before. TIA... Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 5:26:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B932014BDD for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:26:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA26763 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:26:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:26:23 -0500 (CDT) From: jahanur To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: How to limit bulk mails. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Folks, I am trying to find out if there is any way I can limit my user to not to send e-mail more than 100 e-mail in one instance. For example: a user will not be able to send an e-mail to more than 100 e-mail users; cc,forwards,to altogather not more than 100 e-mail address. Please Help. Jahanur To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 5:45:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from carme.eclipse.net.uk (carme.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E82D14C58 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by carme.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA86246; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:44:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37552761.6A300729@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:45:21 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jahanur Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jahanur wrote: > > Hi Folks, > I am trying to find out if there is any way I can limit my user to not to > send e-mail more than 100 e-mail in one instance. If you use sendmail, you can do this in sendmail.cf: # maximum number of recipients per SMTP envelope O MaxRecipientsPerMessage=100 HTH Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 7: 6:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from carme.eclipse.net.uk (carme.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF5414D04 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by carme.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA97596; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:06:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37553A66.2D1F0502@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:06:30 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: monitoring at the packet level References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am currently working on a monitoring system which does more > than simple byte counting, it instead monitors connections. Output > can be sorted by most popular source host, most popular destination > host, most popular source port, most popular destination port. If you're on a shared ethernet (non-switched) then the easiest way at the moment is probably to use a separate machine to do the monitoring, running in promiscuous mode to watch all the traffic? There was a network analyser program distributed as a dd image based on FreeBSD mentioned in a FreeBSD list or newsgroup a year or two ago, I can't find a copy at the moment, maybe someone else remembers it? (btw I think the way to be most easily portable to other OS is to use libpcap - man pcap should be at least a bit informative :) man ipfw on 3.2-release has this to say about tee sockets: "This feature is not yet implemeted." You might be able to use a normal (non-tee) divert socket and a modified copy of natd to do what you are thinking of...presumably without translation rules, just extract whatever information you need from the packet and forward it onwards. HTH Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 8:27:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dexter.lcsd2.org (unknown [209.181.17.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FEB14F7E for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:27:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tstevenson@lcsd2.org) Received: from lcsd2.org ([137.90.159.22]) by dexter.lcsd2.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA08638 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:27:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tstevenson@lcsd2.org) Message-ID: <37554D86.394D5B4A@lcsd2.org> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 09:28:10 -0600 From: Travis Stevenson Organization: Lincoln County School District #2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Broken Pipes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know what this error means. I can't seem to figure it out. This happens every so often. Jun 2 09:20:04 dexter sendmail[8603]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg (mail.uinta6.k12.wy.us): error on output channel sending "220 dexter.lcsd2.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.2/8.9.2; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:20:04 -0600 (MDT)": Broken pipe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 8:42:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jane.lfn.org (unknown [209.16.92.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EA761525F for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from caj@lfn.org) Received: (qmail 15375 invoked by uid 100); 2 Jun 1999 15:42:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:42:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Craig Johnston To: Travis Stevenson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Broken Pipes In-Reply-To: <37554D86.394D5B4A@lcsd2.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Travis Stevenson wrote: > Does anyone know what this error means. I can't seem to figure it out. > This happens every so often. > > > Jun 2 09:20:04 dexter sendmail[8603]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg > (mail.uinta6.k12.wy.us): error on output channel sending "220 > dexter.lcsd2.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.2/8.9.2; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:20:04 > -0600 (MDT)": Broken pipe > The other side went away while you were talking to it. Nothing to worry about. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 13:14:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADD414BED for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA27620; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:14:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:14:02 -0500 (CDT) From: jahanur To: Stuart Henderson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. In-Reply-To: <37552761.6A300729@eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes there anyway we can limit a perticular user instead of limiting everybody. Please help. Jahanur On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: > jahanur wrote: > > > > Hi Folks, > > I am trying to find out if there is any way I can limit my user to not to > > send e-mail more than 100 e-mail in one instance. > > If you use sendmail, you can do this in sendmail.cf: > > # maximum number of recipients per SMTP envelope > O MaxRecipientsPerMessage=100 > > HTH > Stuart > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 13:25:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bluerose.windmoon.nu (c66498-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.123.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6B414E0B for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:25:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fengyue@bluerose.windmoon.nu) Received: from localhost (fengyue@localhost) by bluerose.windmoon.nu (Windmoon-Patched/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18004 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:31:50 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-9550?B?o8C359TCv82jwA==?= To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: What is likely to be wrong? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, I've a AMD K2-400MHZ w/64MB RAM two IDE HD. Last night I did a 3.2 FTP install, it all went fine. Then, I configure and rebuild the kernel, and reboot the box with the new kernel, it hanged after printing "Init network setup: hostname" while the kernel.GENERIC just boots fine. So, I cvsup'ed enitre source to 3.2-stable, and did a make depend in single user mode, after a long while, the mkdep process core dumped (signal 11). It sounds like a bad memory chip to me, so I replaced the 64MB with a 32MB ram from another box and did a make clean;make depend again, again, the mkdep core dumped with signal 6. I then put back the 64MB memory and wrote a little program to test the memory; while (1){ if (p = malloc (1000000)) { memset (p,0,1000000); memcpy (p,buf,1000000); memcpy (buf,p,1000000); } usleep (500); } Have that run for a long while until it uses up the entire swap space. In this case, I assume the memory is actually OK. So, my question is what else could be wrong? The entire motherboard or maybe even the CPU? Any hints where to look for the problem? Thanks in adv!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 13:41:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8A7151AA for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:41:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA67731; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:40:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: =?ISO-9550?B?o8C359TCv82jwA==?= Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What is likely to be wrong? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, [ISO-9550] £À·çÔ¿ͣÀ wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I've a AMD K2-400MHZ w/64MB RAM two IDE HD. Last night I did a 3.2 > FTP install, it all went fine. Then, I configure and rebuild the kernel, > and reboot the box with the new kernel, it hanged after printing > > "Init network setup: hostname" > > while the kernel.GENERIC just boots fine. So, I cvsup'ed enitre source > to 3.2-stable, and did a make depend in single user mode, after a long > while, the mkdep process core dumped (signal 11). It sounds like a bad > memory chip to me, so I replaced the 64MB with a 32MB ram from another > box and did a make clean;make depend again, again, the mkdep core dumped > with signal 6. I then put back the 64MB memory and wrote a little program > to test the memory; > > while (1){ > if (p = malloc (1000000)) > { > memset (p,0,1000000); > memcpy (p,buf,1000000); > memcpy (buf,p,1000000); > } > usleep (500); > } > > Have that run for a long while until it uses up the entire swap space. > In this case, I assume the memory is actually OK. So, my question is > what else could be wrong? The entire motherboard or maybe even > the CPU? Any hints where to look for the problem? Thanks in adv!! First, your memory test is worthless on too many grounds to go into; it's not only basically worthless, the test isn't even being performed on the memory you think it is. Second, just how long did you wait on booting, before deciding it was hung? It sure sounds like it was trying to do a network lookup, and hung up for maybe 5 minutes while it was waiting network timeout, for a namerserver it was probably incorrectly set for. Be a little more patient, it'll probably work. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 14: 7:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6F914F60 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA91987; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:07:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:07:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: jahanur Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, jahanur wrote: > Yes there anyway we can limit a perticular user instead of limiting > everybody. > Please help. > Jahanur Give one warning, then terminate the account. (Or better, terminate the user :-) > > > I am trying to find out if there is any way I can limit my user to not to > > > send e-mail more than 100 e-mail in one instance. > > > > If you use sendmail, you can do this in sendmail.cf: > > > > # maximum number of recipients per SMTP envelope > > O MaxRecipientsPerMessage=100 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 14:14:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jane.lfn.org (jam.rfno.com [209.16.92.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33C0C15434 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from caj@lfn.org) Received: (qmail 20478 invoked by uid 100); 2 Jun 1999 21:14:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:14:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Craig Johnston To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: redunancy without RAID Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org An ISP I work for is about to move from Solaris to FreeBSD. I wanted to provide some redundancy for the filesystems, but we're working on a limited budget and probably can't go for hardware RAID. I was envisioning using ccd to stripe and mirror (we'd like a speedup as well as redundancy) all the non-root filesystems and having 2 identical root filesystems on 2 different disks, with the one in use being dd'ed or dumped to the other one nightly. The duplicate would be left unmounted when not in use. Is vinum to the point where I should use it instead? I've yet to actually use ccd, any caveats? Would it be possible to handle things in such a way that if a non-root disk dies, the system continues to run, or at least reboots unattended and comes up working? What about a root disk? If some amount of coding would be required, I'm up to it, but I'm not intimately familiar with FreeBSD's innards. Is there a cheap RAID solution that works well? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 14:15:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com (c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com [24.5.122.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136AD15909 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:15:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbackman@c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com) Received: from localhost (tbackman@localhost) by c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA15904; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbackman@c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:19:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Backman To: Leif Neland Cc: jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bravo! At the last ISP I worked for we had a $500 charge for SPAMMING built into the subscriber license agreement. If any of our customers SPAMMED we closed down the acct. and charged them $500. Didn't have too many spammers join up after that... On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Leif Neland wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, jahanur wrote: > > > Yes there anyway we can limit a perticular user instead of limiting > > everybody. > > Please help. > > Jahanur > > Give one warning, then terminate the account. (Or better, terminate the > user :-) > > > > > I am trying to find out if there is any way I can limit my user to not to > > > > send e-mail more than 100 e-mail in one instance. > > > > > > If you use sendmail, you can do this in sendmail.cf: > > > > > > # maximum number of recipients per SMTP envelope > > > O MaxRecipientsPerMessage=100 > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ========================================================================= Todd Backman "there are two major products that came out of berkley: Geek and FreeBSD user lsd and unix. Seattle, WA we don't believe this to be "Chaos is a good teacher..." a coincidence." j.s.anderson ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 16:48: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from well.apcs.com.au (well.apcs.com.au [203.41.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48701516F for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith@well.apcs.com.au) Received: (from keith@localhost) by well.apcs.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA05036; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:42:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from keith) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 09:42:19 +1000 (EST) From: Keith Anderson To: Craig Johnston Subject: RE: redunancy without RAID Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Craig, One word on this as I was doing backups the same way. During a backup I had the UPS shutdown without warning. I lost the main file system and the backup underway. Its a good idea to rotate backups. Keith On 02-Jun-99 Craig Johnston wrote: > > An ISP I work for is about to move from Solaris to FreeBSD. > > I wanted to provide some redundancy for the filesystems, but we're > working on a limited budget and probably can't go for hardware RAID. > > I was envisioning using ccd to stripe and mirror (we'd like a speedup as > well as redundancy) all the non-root filesystems and having 2 identical > root filesystems on 2 different disks, with the one in use being dd'ed > or dumped to the other one nightly. The duplicate would be left > unmounted when not in use. > > Is vinum to the point where I should use it instead? I've yet to > actually use ccd, any caveats? Would it be possible to handle things > in such a way that if a non-root disk dies, the system continues to > run, or at least reboots unattended and comes up working? What > about a root disk? If some amount of coding would be required, > I'm up to it, but I'm not intimately familiar with FreeBSD's > innards. > > Is there a cheap RAID solution that works well? > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message "The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed FreeBSD." ** The thing I like most about Windows 98 is... ** You can download FreeBSD with it! ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Keith Anderson Australia Power Control Systems Pty. Limited. Date: 03-Jun-99 Time: 09:38:26 Satelite Service 64K to 2Meg This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- What's the similarity between an air conditioner and a computer? They both stop working when you open windows. ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 16:49:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bluerose.windmoon.nu (c66498-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.123.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CC214E0D for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fengyue@bluerose.windmoon.nu) Received: from localhost (fengyue@localhost) by bluerose.windmoon.nu (Windmoon-Patched/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18339; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-9550?B?o8C359TCv82jwA==?= To: Chuck Robey Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What is likely to be wrong? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > Second, just how long did you wait on booting, before deciding it was > hung? It sure sounds like it was trying to do a network lookup, and > hung up for maybe 5 minutes while it was waiting network timeout, for a > namerserver it was probably incorrectly set for. Be a little more > patient, it'll probably work. > I waited for at least 45minutes. If it's trying to do a network lookup, the same should happen to the GENERIC kernel, but it didn't. There is not much difference between the new the kernel and the GENERIC one except the ktrace is commented out. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 17:41: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mensa.national.com.au (mensa.national.com.au [203.57.240.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961FA1500C for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nconedd@mensa.national.com.au) Received: (from nconedd@localhost) by mensa.national.com.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id KAA00543; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:40:14 +1000 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <199906030040.KAA00543@mensa.national.com.au> Subject: Re: monitoring at the packet level To: rowan@sensation.net.au (Rowan Crowe) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:40:14 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Rowan Crowe" at Jun 2, 99 08:32:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0a3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | | Hi all, | | I am currently working on a monitoring system which does more than simple | byte counting, it instead monitors connections. Output can be sorted by | most popular source host, most popular destination host, most popular | source port, most popular destination port. | | As it's just a test of concept right now, it's basically tcpdump piped to | a program that converts the ASCII output into binary form for its own | internal use. (As a bonus this makes it a little portable, assuming the | target platform has a similar tcpdump) perhaps you'd be better off modifying 'ntop' which already does the src/dest address stuff you're talking about (and can split out by transport - i.e. TCP, UDP and ICMP). Cheers, Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 19: 1: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ronald.trace.net.tw (ronald.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0376714BEF for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:00:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) Received: from trace.net.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronald.trace.net.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04189; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:01:50 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) Message-ID: <3755E20D.4AC0D238@trace.net.tw> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:01:49 +0800 From: "Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç)" Organization: Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Backman Cc: Leif Neland , jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Todd Backman wrote: > > Bravo! At the last ISP I worked for we had a $500 charge for SPAMMING > built into the subscriber license agreement. If any of our customers > SPAMMED we closed down the acct. and charged them $500. Didn't have > too many spammers join up after that... > I guess, you live in a country, where the law support you to do that ;-) -- bye Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¢½¯Ç) http://www.trace.net.tw (phone number = e-mail) e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 21:27:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3A914DB3 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA81067; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:27:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:27:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29?= Cc: Todd Backman , jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. In-Reply-To: <3755E20D.4AC0D238@trace.net.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) wrote: > Todd Backman wrote: > > > > Bravo! At the last ISP I worked for we had a $500 charge for SPAMMING > > built into the subscriber license agreement. If any of our customers > > SPAMMED we closed down the acct. and charged them $500. Didn't have > > too many spammers join up after that... > > > > > I guess, you live in a country, where the law support you to do that ;-) > > Can't you put any (almost) clause into the subscriber licence agreement? If the customer has signed the adreement, which states he can only send 5 email pr day, or else... Then I don't see how the law could prevent the ISP from terminating the account if the customer sends 6 emails pr day. I can see the law can prevent you from terminating the user himself :-) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 23:27:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from noop.colo.erols.net (noop.colo.erols.net [207.96.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFE414E7A for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@noop.colo.erols.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=noop.colo.erols.net) by noop.colo.erols.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10pQxG-0008TB-00; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 02:26:18 -0400 To: Leif Neland Cc: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29?= , Todd Backman , jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jun 1999 06:27:10 +0200." Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:26:11 -0400 Message-ID: <32560.928391171@noop.colo.erols.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif Neland wrote in message ID : > Can't you put any (almost) clause into the subscriber licence agreement? You apparently have to be careful with this sort of thing. ISPs cannot impose punitive damages, as they are not a court of law. If you charge them a dollar fee for spamming from your dialops, you have to be willing to prove (in a court of law) that the `fine' is infact a justifiable recovery of costs (*NOT* including damages) from the users actions (i.e. hiring abuse staff, paper trail, etc). I'm not a lawyer, so I could be wrong, but thats what our local abuse types say... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 23:30:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from noop.colo.erols.net (noop.colo.erols.net [207.96.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28A1150BD for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@noop.colo.erols.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=noop.colo.erols.net) by noop.colo.erols.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10pR1G-0008U5-00; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 02:30:26 -0400 To: Leif Neland , =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29?= , Todd Backman , jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:26:11 EDT." <32560.928391171@noop.colo.erols.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:30:26 -0400 Message-ID: <32616.928391426@noop.colo.erols.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Guess I should have made it clear that this applies to the United States. "Gary Palmer" wrote in message ID <32560.928391171@noop.colo.erols.net>: > You apparently have to be careful with this sort of thing. ISPs cannot > impose punitive damages, as they are not a court of law. If you charge > them a dollar fee for spamming from your dialops, you have to be > willing to prove (in a court of law) that the `fine' is infact a > justifiable recovery of costs (*NOT* including damages) from the users > actions (i.e. hiring abuse staff, paper trail, etc). > I'm not a lawyer, so I could be wrong, but thats what our local abuse > types say... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 23:41:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1135614E7A for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:41:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (conway11.tcworks.net [216.61.218.31]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA53550 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 01:44:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <37562454.718D3319@tcworks.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 01:44:36 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redunancy without RAID References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Johnston wrote: > I wanted to provide some redundancy for the filesystems, but we're > working on a limited budget and probably can't go for hardware RAID. > > Is vinum to the point where I should use it instead? I've yet to > actually use ccd, any caveats? Would it be possible to handle things > in such a way that if a non-root disk dies, the system continues to > run, or at least reboots unattended and comes up working? Craig, We have been running VINUM here at our ISP for quite some time now. It works great... we have our /usr and /var partitions setup on 2 different mirrored volumes. The overhead is low and access times are great. With VINUM, if one of the mirrored disks go out, the volume should not crash . As far as ccd goes, I have never used it, but I believe both ccd and VINUM will not mirror a boot partition (I know VINUM won't yet). The VINUM was difficult to install, only because I was trying to use the port that comes with FBSD 3.1. If you go this route, I suggest downloading the lastest version and you shouldn't have problems. Hope this helps... Chris Cook Network Administrator The Computer Works - http://www.tcworks.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 4 7: 8:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4C8151DA for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA09829 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA17427 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:04:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199906041404.KAA17427@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Routers and such In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990603232221.04383030@granite.sentex.ca> from Mike Tancsa at "Jun 3, 1999 11:34:47 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:03:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Tancsa recently said: > At 11:02 PM 6/3/99 , Bruce Campbell wrote: > > >On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > >mike> >Rest assured that FreeBSD will handle your needs for some > >mike> >time to come. > >mike> > >mike> I think the major place where FreeBSD falls down in terms > >mike> of routing is software. Although gateD does the job, you > >mike> dont nearly have the same features as you would with a > >mike> higher end Cisco. > >If you want an expensive reliable black box with a few blinking > >lights, buy a Cisco. If you want a Cisco-like features on an > >intel platform, choose mrt or zebra, both in the ports collection > >I believe. Gated ain't the only PC-routing game in town. > >(Not that I've got any but passing knowledge with either, and my > >cisco experience consists of replacing at short notice the core > >Bay router of my previous employment) > >If you're serious about shifting data, get a serious router. > >Anything with moving parts is not 'serious' enough. > Depends how much you want to move, and how much you want to spend, > and what sort of knowledge base you have to draw on. $2K for a > pair of PEECEE routers, v.s. $20K, and then service contracts, > IOS revs is a lot of money to spend if you dont need to. I have > been to customer sites where they have 4700s with IP+ to move > data across a fractional T1. That was serious... Serious waste of > money. Well I have a few Cicso's - only 1 had a service contract on it - to get the new ROMS upgrade - an older 2501. The other 2501/7/11's are not under contract, and were purchased used. Our 7513 was also purchased used with a HSSI care, 8 serial ports, 8 ethernet ports, dual power supplies, for $32K - 1.5 years old, new in the box, surplus. It has no contract. (severe overkill but a contract required a DS3 link, and as it was more expandable, and not that much more money, that's why it was done). Used market Cicso's are decent bargains - check the industrial type mags for those who sell them. Depending on levels you may not need the latest IOS. -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 4 7:33:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF4114BD8 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:33:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) id PAA31887 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:33:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:33:16 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Swish++ Message-ID: <19990604153316.D38876@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, Has anyone used the Swish++ search mechanism (http://www.best.com/~pjl/software/swish/)? I've compiled it up, but the 'search' program core dumps whenever I try to do a search, although it does a proper dump of the index words when evoked properly. I've tried g++28 and eg++, but not had any joy. Any testomonials would be greatly recieved. Thanks, Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 4 10: 9:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C19153FE for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA28696 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA20180 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:56:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199906041656.MAA20180@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Routers and such In-Reply-To: <199906041632.MAA05475@etinc.com> from Dennis at "Jun 4, 1999 11:28:54 am" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:56:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis recently said: > At 10:03 AM 6/4/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Mike Tancsa recently said: > > > >> At 11:02 PM 6/3/99 , Bruce Campbell wrote: > >> > >> >On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >> >mike> >Rest assured that FreeBSD will handle your needs for some > >> >mike> >time to come. > >> >mike> > >> >mike> I think the major place where FreeBSD falls down in terms > >> >mike> of routing is software. Although gateD does the job, you > >> >mike> dont nearly have the same features as you would with a > >> >mike> higher end Cisco. > >> >If you want an expensive reliable black box with a few blinking > >> >lights, buy a Cisco. ... > >> >If you're serious about shifting data, get a serious router. > >> >Anything with moving parts is not 'serious' enough. > >> Depends how much you want to move, and how much you want to spend, > >> and what sort of knowledge base you have to draw on. $2K for a > >> pair of PEECEE routers, v.s. $20K, and then service contracts, .... > >Well I have a few Cicso's - only 1 had a service contract on it - > >to get the new ROMS upgrade - an older 2501. The other 2501/7/11's > >are not under contract, and were purchased used. ... > >Used market Cicso's are decent bargains - check the industrial type > >mags for those who sell them. Depending on levels you may not need > >the latest IOS. > Perhaps, but that box is about $7K on a PII-400, and the vast > majority of people dont need the "extra features". Cisco also has > "features" like disfunctional mtus, blubbering PPP protocols and > they pig out woefully when you run bandwidth management. Far from > perfect, and bgp4 on gated runs just fine. No perhaps - they really are great bargains. I was commenting on the expensive hardware needed - and used is reasonable. If you don't need the horsepower or expandability of the big iron, it's foolish to buy it. The bigger things are expandable, and at least count I had about 8 outbound T1s. In July we are probably going to be setting up a 850 node network for a client for ONE WEEK. I can envision using at least 6 of the ethernet ports to do that and keep things isolated to some degree. Used equipment is good. More power than you need is not good. The problem with a statement like "the vast majority" is who makes up this 'vast majority'. 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