From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jun 4 3:51:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jhs.muc.de (jhs.muc.de [193.149.49.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E2837B403 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 03:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhs@jhs.muc.de) Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f53MtaZ43691; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:55:36 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200106032255.f53MtaZ43691@jhs.muc.de> To: Noses Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Purchasing a new laptop...advice? In-Reply-To: Message from Noses of "Fri, 01 Jun 2001 22:38:35 +0200." <200106012038.f51KcZe97702@proxon.bnc.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 00:55:36 +0200 From: "Julian Stacey Jhs@jhs.muc.de" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org noses@noses.com wrote to my: > > There are 2 German layouts > > One. Wrong ! Two at least since I've been working in Germany in various companies since 1985. Are you _In_ Germany to be authoratitive ? Your .com address might be anywhere, possibly USA ? > Anything else is non-standard. One might claim some are standards, & some are merely usages, but that would be unconvincing, merely degenerating to "What's a `Standard' ?" - X terminals at DASA(EADS) in Ottobrunn, Bavaria, Germany have 2 German & 2 Swiss German keyboards. - The trilingual patent examiners at the European Patent Office, Munich, say they use Swiss German keyboard 'cos it includes all the characters they need, (official languages: English German & French). I'm not sure how many non Swiss-German but still German layouts Austrian & German & Swiss friends there could name, but I think more than 1. - I can't clearly rememeber what forms of German layouts Siemens used while I was building a trilingual USA/German/Cyrillic kbd & font interface back in 1992, but I think their keyboards varied too. - I append 4.1.1-RELEASE/usr/share/syscons/keymaps ; md5 *german* MD5 (german.cp850.kbd) = 828aab44f66193a74804d5a544d8fad0 MD5 (german.iso.kbd) = 75fdc5acb2ec1f23f30eb63a3e387e26 MD5 (swissgerman.cp850.kbd) = 7326888204968e60ca97c6416d738d34 MD5 (swissgerman.iso.acc.kbd) = 271f51dbee352511290bbd4103e4e749 MD5 (swissgerman.iso.kbd) = 6dbf00a423df479db7f5cc6d255edfd3 I've been in Germany 16 years, but I'm British, & avoid German keyboards where possible. If you'r German, Austrian or Swiss, & have worked on a wide variety of different German hardware, you might know more, but - It would help if you write from a .de address, quoting your international phone number starting +49, +41, or +43, & providing grammatical corrections to this sentence: "Es gibt mindestens Zwei verschiedener Deutsche Tastatur Belegungen, soweit ich verstehe." - To ask Germans how many German keyboard layouts standards _they_ think there are, subscribe to German FreeBSD mail lists via majordomo@de.freebsd.org. Julian - Julian Stacey Unix Consultant - Munich Germany http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ Ihr Rauchen => mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Kau/Schnupftabak probieren ! Like Linux ? Then also look at FreeBSD with its 5000+ packages ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message