From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 19:54:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504001065681 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from megatron.madpilot.net (megatron.madpilot.net [88.149.173.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CE28FC30 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by megatron.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C08A130C73; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:54:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at madpilot.net Received: from megatron.madpilot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (megatron.madpilot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qLHCKm2FrFzG; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:54:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from anakin.madpilot.net (anakin.madpilot.net [172.24.42.10]) by megatron.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:54:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BEEB55.4050406@madpilot.net> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:53:57 +0200 From: Guido Falsi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Allen References: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net> In-Reply-To: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:54:09 -0000 Dan Allen wrote: > BACKGROUND: > > A few years ago one could get a FreeBSD CD and install X and get a > decent basic system from one CD. > > One can still do this with Ubuntu today as well. > > Why can't we have a small window manager like icewm along with Firefox > 3.0+ be among the packages on the first FreeBSD CD so a basic working > system with a web browser can be a default install? Is it that X.org is > now too big? > > SUMMARY: > > I would like to see FreeBSD 7.1 add to its disc1: > > 1) X.org > 2) icewm > 3) firefox-3.0 > 4) support for Intel 4965 wireless drivers > 5) support for Marvell 88E8040 ethernet driver > If you just want na instant workstation, why you just don't try Freesbie or something like that? If I install FreeBSD on a PC I expect this installation to live there for some years. I can spend some hours/days installing and configuring what I really need. At least this is the way I see it. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. -- Guido Falsi