From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 29 16:14:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DFD1A95 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6D2124 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.1] (S01060001abad1dea.hm.shawcable.net [50.70.146.73]) (Authenticated sender: allan.jude@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EAC43613EE for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5336F155.5090901@allanjude.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:14:13 -0400 From: Allan Jude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A proposal References: <53365D6F.5020804@allanjude.com> <20140329055249.GA69809@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20140329092923.GS37436@e-new.0x20.net> <20140329131110.GA71345@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="03d4au3XfrDTntQk2TgFu6FLTWMX5CXJh" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:14:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --03d4au3XfrDTntQk2TgFu6FLTWMX5CXJh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-03-29 09:21, Joe Nosay wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Steve Kargl < > sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: >=20 >> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:29:23AM +0100, Lars Engels wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:52:49PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: >>>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:46:15AM -0400, Joe Nosay wrote: >>>>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Allan Jude = >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2014-03-29 01:22, Joe Nosay wrote: >>>>>>> I have noticed that options VPS, VIMAGE, and MROUTING are not >> standard >>>>>> for >>>>>>> the kernel with a base install. Is there any way that these can b= e >> made a >>>>>>> part of the normal kernel so that jail(s) would get the full bene= fit >>>>>>> without a kernel recompile? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> VIMAGE has some problems with PF. Martin Matu ska said at AsiaBSDC= on >>>>>> that he had a patch that solves the issue. >>>>> >>>>> Really, you say? That's good news. >>>>> So, will those options soon be standard for a first time install? >>>> >>>> Certainly, hope not. I don't use any of options. >>> >>> So you use all the other devices and options of the GENERIC kernel? >> >> Of course, not. Not sure how you inferred such a thing. >> >> IMHO, GENERIC should contain only those devices and options >> that are required to get FreeBSD booted on new hardware. >> VIMAGE and MROUTING aren't needed, and can be configured by >> the user after installation. As for VPS, AFAICT, there isn't >> an option/device named VPS; at least 'find /sys/ -type f | xargs >> grep VPS' wasn't too enlightening. >> >> >> -- >> Steve >> >=20 >=20 > http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/announcements/ >=20 >=20 > Booyah. It exists. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 VPS only exists in a project branch, and is not nearly in a state to be included in GENERIC And I don't see a compelling reason to have MROUTING in GENERIC either. --=20 Allan Jude --03d4au3XfrDTntQk2TgFu6FLTWMX5CXJh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTNvFaAAoJEJrBFpNRJZKfkHYP/R432DL1xBDPme7QamLtjD7T gNCKZpo1vQhWKW5GPPNpmSnnv2YkwK5FNzEYYQDS1Wb+mbUwiCNDo61Kqo0F2rtG His/yhgV5dJZJNAzMqUJEENva2E2ecrJN5PZ5Pro/0ScPPtCdWBCxssd5QWFcmt5 kldpr3z98yBUZOaWk6pKgnc+7nU54Q1jxEbwOMuhsU/UdeR1dVmDo87MFDL+YmBO 1SmxbeOczlCN6II4nlbumv/xQC0dEUOK6I32+8UigUP+au/s1m7Lc4xlrmnRamIP DKHsRz0fSvDSq3xkP6/CrgHhakMbiSKeBoQHAfGCefJYJFGrPI7HrgUceZMNSTsQ a0J7SQ/n7rzHo74We0dkjt4f7hvIwGDJqVSU+SSW4PzZZ5QPwcnh7IFs/XF6PnJl n8Xu87uqFPSLlLlqlpnRyQUrElHQneLNydX7AevucUV/tFC0qVCCw9VtN7rsNSSz OCIM9eEbs4Y+MDAbh2rtjsM4d0I5vd8mposS2E6001HoB3HOerdTQqzKtjLZr01e z/qKyZN85lf22TwGdT6ZHPKQOY82yPbLevw4QyqLcNkssI2boQ/s7zeX6N9+wM05 o+wdop2DFmkG2/T+mjSP5IULdIa5Q+gaFdyuRudFCEIrTHvVajcSY0MSvWQdAIJj vDih9NCwR36ZpJ7XS0I4 =Uab0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --03d4au3XfrDTntQk2TgFu6FLTWMX5CXJh--