From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 00:50:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B3D16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993D343D41 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E685F0.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.133.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B0B2FA3C; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:50:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EB0BF4.7070707@incubus.de> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:51:00 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41EA0B3F.3030209@incubus.de> <41EAA854.1040500@mac.com> <41EAFA51.8090207@incubus.de> <41EB0879.1090402@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <41EB0879.1090402@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:50:57 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > If you choose not to see any distinction between software which is > freely available and comes with source code, and between other forms of > software which neither comes with source nor is free, fine. No. "Open" has for a long time referred to "industry standard", before it was used for free software. But java is neither. mkb.