From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 9 10:00:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00722 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:00:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00712 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:00:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19707; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:57:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:57:25 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Phillip Salzman cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Open Systems Networking , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X desktop contest? + Desktop Env In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > > Not quite fair--to conclude there's no interest--because the contest > > was suspended at least 10 days before the deadline, so people who > > might have participated didn't. > > > > Annelise > > > Close, except we suspended the contest the first time the day > after the deadline. At this point we recieved three entries, one of which > was invalid. It was decided to restart the contest along with the release > of 3.0-RELEASE. This would serve as a special kick-off party for it if > you say... the day of the release, it was cancelled. Not really. At the time you suspended it, the deadline had already been extended. The original deadline was therefore not in effect. At least, this is what I recall. > > It could be said we should of let it last longer, to see if we > got a final product that was worthy. I admit that. Nope, you should have kept the original deadline, given away the prizes you promised, and moved on. > > In the ashes of the contest, we still need a better default > configuration for X. We are still limited with twm. I propose we start It is astonishing to me that FreeBSD continues to ship with a two default shells that are not good for interactive use and an out-of-date window manager, and remains relatively difficult to get up and running in critical areas, specifically graphics, printing, sound, and communica- tions. Annelise > a ``BSD X Development Enviornment'' which will include cheezy frontends to > your favorite networking tools, etc. The suggestion you told me of using > TK may actually be one of our biggest choices, but I feel obligated to > keep it away from that because of the many differences between versions. > This could break anything we create after a newer version is released. > > Would any of you be interested in starting something like this? > We would need a couple of developers with some experience in programming > for X11. I would like to keep it C, but TK will probally be fine.. > > -- > Phillip Salzman > "Some die old, others never grow up..." > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message