From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Mon Jan 22 15:53:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D85DEC7BA6; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2415A82165; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w0MFr7Sx051799 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:53:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua w0MFr7Sx051799 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w0MFr704051798; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:53:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:53:07 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Kyle Evans Cc: src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r328240 - in head: etc/mtree lib lib/libc/regex lib/libc/tests/regex lib/libregex lib/libregex/tests share/mk Message-ID: <20180122155307.GG55707@kib.kiev.ua> References: <201801220244.w0M2if3I083081@repo.freebsd.org> <20180122102639.GD55707@kib.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:53:20 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 08:05:30AM -0600, Kyle Evans wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:26 AM, Konstantin Belousov > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 02:44:41AM +0000, Kyle Evans wrote: > >> Author: kevans > >> Date: Mon Jan 22 02:44:41 2018 > >> New Revision: 328240 > >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/328240 > >> > >> Log: > >> Add libregex, connect it to the build > >> > >> libregex is a regex(3) implementation intended to feature GNU extensions and > >> any other non-POSIX compliant extensions that are deemed worthy. > >> > >> These extensions are separated out into a separate library for the sake of > >> not cluttering up libc further with them as well as not deteriorating the > >> speed (or lack thereof) of the libc implementation. > >> > >> libregex is implemented as a build of the libc implementation with LIBREGEX > >> defined to distinguish this from a libc build. The reasons for > >> implementation like this are two-fold: > >> > >> 1.) Maintenance- This reduces the overhead induced by adding yet another > >> regex implementation to base. > >> > >> 2.) Ease of use- Flipping on GNU extensions will be as simple as linking > >> against libregex, and POSIX-compliant compilations can be guaranteed with a > >> REG_POSIX cflag that should be ignored by libc/regex and disables extensions > >> in libregex. It is also easier to keep REG_POSIX sane and POSIX pure when > >> implemented in this fashion. > > You are doing very fragile and unmaintainable trick on all consumers > > there. Your libregex.so exports the same symbols under the same version > > as the libc does. In other words, we now provide two binary-incompatible > > callable symbols, and selection of the symbol by the consumer depends on > > the DT_NEEDED order and interposing. For instance, if some program loads > > a module linked to your libregex, the program behaviour suddenly changes. > > > > Since the library provides incompatible implementation, it must use > > different versions for the symbols, at least to save others time to > > debug the mess. > > What's the best way that you see, going forward? > > I'm inclined to throw a Symbol.map into libregex using FBSD_1.1... > these interfaces are otherwise stable stable within the two respective > libraries, so I don't see that causing too much pain in the future > because symbol version changes should be rare. I do not think this is wise to create contention on the standard FreeBSD' version namespace. > > On the other hand, I could see wanting to use something more like > FBSD_LIBREGEX_1.0 so that if the situation does come up one doesn't > need to double-check that they're not colliding with the other > implementation. I like this more. We still have to carry that symbols with the current behaviour forever, but at least they would no longer conflict with the libc' symbols for dynamic linking.