Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:06:55 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org> To: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov <cvs-src@yandex.ru> Cc: Nicola Vitale <nivit@freebsd.org>, cvs-ports@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/py-pychess Makefile Message-ID: <20111213010655.GA3611@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4EE60DD8.1070402@yandex.ru> References: <201112111707.pBBH7GHd079459@repoman.freebsd.org> <20111212005714.GA98735@FreeBSD.org> <CAEQKd7UPVHX9DjA2fgz8Qp4qxHT4%2BOXo4e=DEa_FcvJjd_1JXA@mail.gmail.com> <4EE60DD8.1070402@yandex.ru>
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:21:12PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: > Nicola Vitale wrote on 12.12.2011 17:51: > >> [2011/12/12 Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>] > >> [...] perhaps you could consider moving this to a better > >> named "games/pychess". Note that py- prefix should not be used for > >> normal applications. > > > > AFAIK, py- prefix should be used for all port that install files under > > PYTHON_SITELIBDIR, i.e., that use PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX in their > > package name. I've always wondered how this discussion spawns again and again. :-) To put it shortly, what's more important is that such ports install files under "bin/" -- which is the first thing our users care about, not whether it uses any resources or libraries for its operation (those that go under PYTHON_SITELIBDIR). Actually, we have two issues here (quoting my earlier email to cs@): 1) what should be name of the port directory? My answer is "pychess". As a user, I don't really care which language was used to write software. I want a chess client, and google tells me there is one named "pychess". So I will naturally try to look for it spelled like that. 2) what should be PKGNAME? Less obvious, but then I'll ask myself, why do I need to embed the Python version in the package name? Given sufficient reasons I might agree, but so far as I see it, it is a self-contained port with bunch of its local Python stuff under PYTHON_SITELIBDIR, and tainting both port directory and package name does not bring any noticeable good. > > audio/py-sonata or www/google-appengine -> www/py-google-appengine, > > even if they were Python applications. > > Otherwise, we should rename hundreds of ports, not only that one. Ideally, yes, however, the cost of such rename is a bit too high. Instead we should refine our documentation in this area and try to be more careful in the future. > Hmm, i though that PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX is added only if the port in > question - it's a library. For that reason i omitted py-prefix for > deskutils/gtg, multimedia/gtk-recordmydesktop, www/zope213 etc. All of > them install their files into %%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%. Yes, exactly. Prefixes are for libraries, extensions, bindings, plugins, etc. -- "batteries", not for "normal" applications and utilities. ./danfe
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