Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:00:17 +0200 From: "Reko Turja" <reko.turja@liukuma.net> To: <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux Message-ID: <CCD9FE91966E4B779886CB8053C809FA@Rivendell> In-Reply-To: <m2eh1spns4.wl%randy@psg.com> References: <m2iorb1ms8.wl%randy@psg.com><532EDDD0.80700@ohlste.in> <m2eh1spns4.wl%randy@psg.com>
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-----Original Message----- From: Randy Bush > in the hope that ports will be made usable before so many people give up > that critical mass is lost. a real tragedy if the great freebsd core > dies because of ports lack of usability. Interestingly, I've found the ports nowadays to be almost exact opposite of unusable, but then I don't use FreeBSD as a desktop, the boxes are in firewall, server etc. uses. Ports coupled with pkgng and portupgrade work just a treat on freshly built 10.0 system, nowadays one can run portupdate -rf <portname> and get the end result that's expected instead of building tons of stuff that isn't in any need of update. Of course, there are warts, snags and bumps now and then, but based on what I've seen, I like where the project is heading. Unless in the future the only way to build ports is using Poudriere + Sun/Oracle "How to get the suck... errr, customer invest into tons of our very costly special memory" filesystem. So so far I can say, keep up the good work, just keep in mind that even the small time users might want to keep ports buildable "by hand", instead of using one size fits all packages due lack of resources to run ZFS. Needless to say, nearly every port I use/run are heavily tweaked and meshed together. -Reko
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