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Date:      Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:07:49 -0500
From:      Yoshihiro Ota <ota@j.email.ne.jp>
To:        remko@elvandar.org
Cc:        ota@j.email.ne.jp, stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugbusters@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: PR backlog
Message-ID:  <20071228020749.b5fc0ab2.ota@j.email.ne.jp>
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:43:08 +0100 (CET)
"Remko Lodder" <remko@elvandar.org> wrote:

> 
> Hello Warner et all,
> 
> On Wed, December 26, 2007 7:42 pm, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> > Mark and Henrik make a number of good points here.  Rather than reply
> > to the details, I'm going to make a couple of quick observations.
> >
> > As a project we're not leveraging the community sufficiently when it
> > comes to contributions.  The current system of patch review and
> > submission is very hap-hazard.  If you happen to get the attention of
> > the right person at the right time, then it goes in.  If not, patches
> > can languish a long time in the PR system.
> 
> Indeed, I am one of the persons trying to find these relatively easy
> things which I can do along side my other projects and things, but I dont
> see them all (eventhough I try to keep track of them as much as possible);
> but what will happen is that I learn more and more about the system and at
> some point in time I will "stop" working on these easy PR's and seeking
> more difficult ones to fix, at that point someone else has to step up to
> fill in the gap that gets created; this might be a problematic part :-)
> 
> Though for everyone having simple fixes, please send them to me so that I
> can evaluate them and (together with Warner in this case (As my mentor)) I
> will try to get them in as correctly and quickly as possible :-) (keeping
> up with the high standards of FreeBSD ofcourse).

I also opened the PR database a couple weeks ago looking for a solution
to bugs I encountered.  It's been quite long, some years, since I opened
the PR page last time.  It was surprising and also disappointing on
the number of PRs left open for long time.

How do I help that cleaning job?  I am also interested fixing and
concerned about this fact.

Thanks,
Hiro



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