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Date:      Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:42:02 -0700
From:      Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC <chad@shire.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not...
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On Feb 11, 2005, at 7:34 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:

> Kevin Kinsey writes:
>
>> IIRC, this was the sort of thing that caused a few people to
>> killfile your address a couple years back.
>
> The sort of teenage-boy attitude that causes some people to killfile
> others is one of the worst handicaps of the FreeBSD project.  It is bad
> enough that I hesitate to clearly recommend FreeBSD for any type of
> serious use, simply because my reputation might suffer when anyone 
> using
> the OS tries to actually talk to other users or persons involved with
> the project.

Give me a break. (See below)

>
> A case in point is the ridiculous argument and name-calling I see here
> over Beastie. The kiddies are more worried about the fate of a cartoon
> character than about the operating system it represents. When so many
> people behave so petulantly over such trivial matters, it creates an
> overall perception of immaturity that scares off serious potential 
> users
> of the OS. One has the impression of trying to calm a classroom full of
> first graders rather than discussing issues intelligently in a
> conference room with professional peers.  I can say with absolute
> confidence that corporate decision makers who encounter this type of
> behavior will permanently write off FreeBSD within minutes of seeing 
> it;
> and I can't say that I blame them, as no CEO or CIO can afford to bet
> millions of dollars on the capricious behavior of a bunch of 
> junior-high
> kids.

This is also ridiculous.  No CEO or CIO is going to  give a RAT's ASS 
about what is said in a mailing list about a particular product.  If 
so, WIndows would have been dead years ago. (read some of the drivel 
posted in Windows mail lists).  (On a related note:  Balmer's big mouth 
hasn't killed Windows yet either).  These mailing lists are not 
official mouthpieces of the FreeBSD project.

If the FreeBSD projects website, official announcements, etc were like 
this, you'd have a case.  But we are talking about a cross section of 
user's in unofficial channels.  That does not mean a thing to these 
people.

Chad



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