From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 18:58:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E761FCE046F for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from anoxia.adamw.org (anoxia.adamw.org [104.225.8.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "anoxia.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BD87C0D for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by anoxia.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id bf4169b8 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:58:50 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:58:48 -0700 Cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> To: abi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:58:53 -0000 > On 15 Feb, 2017, at 11:47, abi wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 15.02.2017 18:00, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. >>>=20 >>> Now my question is what is the status of synth? >>>=20 >>> Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >>>=20 >>> If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to = synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of = extra work. >>>=20 >>> Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and = don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. >>=20 >> I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it = already causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works now, it = is unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves. >=20 > This is FUD. Yes, portmaster can be less maintained, but it works = without observable issues, at least I don't see any problems with it on = my systems. synth and poudriere lacks the ability to set and maintain = port options recursively, eliminating any practical (from user = perspective, not developer) use of such software stand alone. Sure it does. poudriere options -j jailname editors/vim Sets options recursively. Not seeing any problems with it right now isn't the point of my message. = The point is that portmaster WILL break when new features (currently in = progress) are added to the ports build system, and being unmaintained, = there's no guarantees that it will ever unbreak. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org