From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 21 17:52:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E91106564A for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27CE8FC0A for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1577884wxd.7 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OCxdHYg9WJkhlbeq9JIL0j41UVL4olDQP6SUl6v/vA8=; b=MkqBZSYONILhU5bcSk5wv6YW6+zgUwqeApUHD+2zy2uwyka0XAJtIK3wydBY1QrbXaui5R/qdxm4jws/W9jj3+Ggr7MgWAjS6+1/5gtuKOEWR8QL2KVoNEnw2rM8RrlKDPcsaBw9xFgxDfNGFQ7YWCabU5psOREGDgTuZdXoMuc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZfWoqtwkEDE9cFxj1VffOZx5OslZnISwC9IGC2w2uBuNKfnrpyPg1mY3ajL0GgfDfQT0Ec6G9jF1T58yLQPCXT3QcnOfFZVGHRks+HWTxNmDIHZdEmGsfzj4Iy/huJf/f9bb87G9C9hxs5KSMqhurckqPPMWX2iPKShCHl8U/6Y= Received: by 10.140.139.3 with SMTP id m3mr3456587rvd.244.1208800364903; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.194.4 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8efc42630804211052u47d1c483m992536451406b003@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:52:44 -0400 From: "Simon Chang" To: "Peter Brezny" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <000001c8a3cd$af7961d0$0b01a8c0@k62500> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000001c8a3cd$af7961d0$0b01a8c0@k62500> Cc: Subject: Re: When's FreeBSD going to catch up in the world of virtualization. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:52:47 -0000 > Now however, I'm forced to use linux as the host OS for Vmware as there > currently seems to be no current support for FreeBSD as the Host OS for > popular VM applications. I hear your pain. However, VMware is a commercial company one of whose responsibilities is their bottom line. I have heard it said many, many times on this and other FreeBSD discussions that, if commercial companies hear from the end-users and system administrators, they would pay more attention to the group in question. Sadly, to date I have not seen any organized efforts to bring to VMware's attention the mob of BSD users that are out there, despite all the boastful talks. You also see that there are no (host) support for Open and Net (BSD). OSS virtualization efforts are another story, as there is no "bottom line" as such. But you still need the manpower and manhours to do complicated stuff like virtualization. SC