From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 29 07:03:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1178E345 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9545211F7 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.118] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1VmI78-0002hH-5n for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:03:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:03:46 +0100 From: Markus Hoenicka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: math "formulae" using libreoffice In-Reply-To: <20131129054342.d1e814d8.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20131120000851.GA8007@ethic.thought.org> <20131120014303.7eb2bd44.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131120014134.GA9893@ethic.thought.org> <20131121001853.GA18522@ethic.thought.org> <20131121211010.fd168924.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131121234959.GB28395@ethic.thought.org> <20131122011153.fc81837d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131122005933.GA3297@ethic.thought.org> <20131122022650.2636ef22.freebsd@edvax.de> <52973695.4070208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20131129054342.d1e814d8.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <2154b7b42fce5a342aeeee5a1e6f59cf@mhoenicka.de> X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:03:56 -0000 Am 2013-11-29 05:43, schrieb Polytropon: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:27:01 +1000, Da Rock wrote: >> On 11/22/13 11:26, Polytropon wrote: >> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >> >> I'l ck it out, thankee. I have been wondering about the diff >> >> between openX and libreX {X == "office"} but guessed that >> >> "open" was what the BSD's chose ... >> > No, they are two different products, maintained independently. >> > If I remember correctly, it started with StarOffice as the first >> > major office suite becoming a free product (I've been using >> > version 3.x and 4.0 of this), it was then "incorporated" by >> > Sun which later became OpenOffice. When Oracle bought and >> > (mostly) destroyed Sun, OpenOffice was one of the victims; >> > they added proprietary code and finally abandoned it. That >> > was the time when LibreOffice was forked. Today, LibreOffice >> > is _the_ office suite per se. >> Not to start a war, but it went StarOffice as a free product (up to >> about 5 or 6, I think), then Sun made it a paid product and forked >> OpenOffice as an open source alternative (good ole Sun); then Oracle >> got >> involved and Libreoffice was forked with some of the original devs >> walking with it and overhauling it in the process, and finally with >> OpenOffice finally abandoned to the wolves by Oracle at a later date >> and >> rescued by the Apache incubator project not so many years ago now. > > That won't start a war, at least not from my side. :-) > > I wasn't aware that Sun didn't continue the "tradition of free" > from the start. It's always nice to learn something about history. > So todays we're left with the decision "Apache OpenOffice vs. > TDF LibreOffice" (just mentioning the "big players", there's > still AbiWord, Gnumeric et al. as separate components)... I'm afraid this is still not quite correct. To the best of my knowledge, StarDivision (from Hamburg, Germany) sold StarOffice as a commercial software until they were purchased by Sun. However, at this point the software had been free for personal use for about a year or so. It was not open source though. After purchasing StarOffice, Sun made it free for commercial use as well and eventually released the sources as well. This recollection matches what I read here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarDivision regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38