From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 15 19:17:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA032CE0A20 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from mail.abinet.ru (mail.abinet.ru [136.243.72.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F2D1723 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from [10.0.0.1] (unknown [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.abinet.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 323903CC89 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:17:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=abinet.ru; s=dkim; t=1487186272; bh=OLSt5S4SbdgoPnq94YRTSNy9H0L4b5Xi9f0NTyelVdA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=Gw3KaatSYFHwok0vypciyoOl+hyEW99yD0PuYoWlKfME9+3TqrGOXhwB3QRFsOWRT s2wGepSr4JvoeR2rFO70UKR/KQRn3iFtfz1z7XjrxOoLnPmayEzmguBlrhuCmzktph irFlfFHdkylDfMmD3d9vJ2SHff+/5b3Nd+LK9RLU= Message-ID: <58A4A95F.20303@abinet.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:17:51 +0300 From: abi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.9) Gecko/20161026 FossaMail/25.2.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino? References: <33.4E.19143.3DE14A85@dnvrco-omsmta03> <3F2A28D7-A3A4-4549-B125-805EC9923F3B@adamw.org> <58A4A227.6080000@abinet.ru> <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> In-Reply-To: <113653FF-1F93-448E-99C6-9943BBD9DAAE@adamw.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:17:53 -0000 On 15.02.2017 21:58, Adam Weinberger wrote: >> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 11:47, abi wrote: >> >> >> >> On 15.02.2017 18:00, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller wrote: >>>> >>>> Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by surprise. >>>> >>>> Now my question is what is the status of synth? >>>> >>>> Should I switch from portmaster to synth? >>>> >>>> If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from portmaster to synth, then I have to switch back, and this would be a monster mess of extra work. >>>> >>>> Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand and don't want to go too far off course updating my ports. >>> >>> I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it already causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works now, it is unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves. >> >> This is FUD. Yes, portmaster can be less maintained, but it works without observable issues, at least I don't see any problems with it on my systems. synth and poudriere lacks the ability to set and maintain port options recursively, eliminating any practical (from user perspective, not developer) use of such software stand alone. > > Sure it does. > > poudriere options -j jailname editors/vim > > Sets options recursively. > > Not seeing any problems with it right now isn't the point of my message. The point is that portmaster WILL break when new features (currently in progress) are added to the ports build system, and being unmaintained, there's no guarantees that it will ever unbreak. > Poudriere can't be considered as an option for everyone due to it's connection to jails, synth can't set options recursively, however it's extremely simple to use. According to current port tree, portmaster has maintainer and it's simple enough to be fixed by virtually everyone. Can you provide link to new features? Never saw that port tree has some drastically changes.