Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 07:25:47 +0000 From: Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> To: Xin Li <delphij@delphij.net> Cc: Warner Losh <wlosh@bsdimp.com>, Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>, d@delphij.net, Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com>, Bruce Simpson <bms@fastmail.net>, Oliver Pinter <oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org>, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav <des@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Security Team <secteam@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r303716 - head/crypto/openssh Message-ID: <20160808072547.GA19715@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <226b9a3c-8ca8-af31-7665-86d51365fc81@delphij.net> References: <201608031608.u73G8Mjq055909@repo.freebsd.org> <d419bddd-fe56-bc11-8965-142ca0b94ebc@fastmail.net> <9a01870a-d99d-13a2-54bd-01d32616263c@fastmail.net> <CAPQ4fftQ30_aqU8V_ea-WEKBdMZs5H9Rwxnfa0crid_df049nQ@mail.gmail.com> <b99c06ac-82d6-ccda-419c-2ece5be4636f@fastmail.net> <30e655d1-1df7-5e2a-fccb-269e3cea4684@freebsd.org> <20160807204039.GB79784@server.rulingia.com> <ab58ed22-7dd1-7b8d-fcc5-71def5936901@freebsd.org> <8371434C-86F6-4DCB-82D4-F236BBC2F9A2@bsdimp.com> <226b9a3c-8ca8-af31-7665-86d51365fc81@delphij.net>
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--jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 03:48:44PM -0700, Xin Li wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 8/7/16 14:20, Warner Losh wrote: > >=20 > >> On Aug 7, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> > >>> OTOH, FreeBSD has a documented deprecation process that says things w= ill > >>> continue working for a major release after being formally deprecated. > >> > >> FreeBSD 11 is not released yet (betas are not counted), stable-10 too, > >> so it is right time to deprecate for them. > >=20 > > Nice try, but feature freeze was months ago. Have you got buy in from t= he > > security officer and the release engineer? >=20 > Well, despite the fact that I have to admit that I get locked out from > my own storage box too, however (even without wearing any hat) I am for > the change and would blame myself for being lazy in adopting the change > when the upstream have announced it earlier about a year ago. While the timing sucks, I don't see any way around this change given our experience with the HPN patches and that upstream plans to kill this feature, we must not ship 11 with support enabled. There's just no practical way to keep adding back a feature for 4-5 years. -- Brooks --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXqDP7AAoJEKzQXbSebgfAGvsH/0LBO+VI9zzcdokhypu3CT9A 1TXQ2yATfgp4/JluAlpePm23EwtJIIoDUWUN1nCH6UemAR9nqgtiPgA36Y+FRBRI sBid+Hn7xxKBIUf/D/7PTLeC+X35ZS7wxoy+Vs9NXid/OAR82AlnlMrPmWIYhwAO x3nSloxwwk3aOQTkoxB+CxWaZqQpvMr166yJBKKcx46Nu5nhxK12iKQRUBhqjP4N XB2yBNa+qnrjdDJoCcx562nQyv5AyDhJeWgrZnouD7rU5gAKMWcQ3U0Ke8KEm8Uz LAq5EUlSz6bcnEEUE9l02eaOabFq4CmSCl35V5Db6CT01XMPg4JkHuri0NjKT7k= =n60g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP--
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