From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 2 12:58:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA18801 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iafnl.es.iaf.nl (uucp@iafnl.es.iaf.nl [195.108.17.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA18787 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA17622 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:58:01 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA00977; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:54:02 +0100 (MET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199710021854.TAA00977@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: thickwisre<->thinwire To: totii@est.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DEor=F0ur?= Ivarsson) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:54:02 +0100 (MET) Cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3433C896.41C67EA6@est.is> from "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DEor=F0ur?= Ivarsson" at Oct 2, 97 04:19:40 pm X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DEor=F0ur?= Ivarsson wrote... > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > As Chuck Robey wrote... > > > I'm doing a bit of computer re-arrangement (keeps my life interesting) and > > > I find I have to connect another computer to my existing home ethernet. > > > Trouble is, the ethernet is thinwire, and the new computer (a DECStation > > > 5000/120, which will be running NetBSD) is thickwire. I'm going to be > > > connecting it to my two existing FreeBSD boxes. > > > > It probably has an AUI 15 pin D connector. Just find a thinwire tranceiver, > > they are quite abundant. Or if you have an AUI-10base5 tranceiver, rewire > > it to use a BNC connector. The electronics are the same for 10base2 and > > 10base5 (at least they are not distinguishable in normal use) > > > The specs changes only little and does not care for short cables. > The main difference is the velocity factor of Thick Wire is lot higer > than > Thin Wire cable. The electronic is the same. Not completely. The collision detect uses a diode connection to the central conductor on the thinwire tranceiver, and is directly connected for thickwire (or the other way around, I forgot that detail). This is at least the difference in the NS8392 based implementation I used when I built a couple of tranceivers myself (years ago, when they were rare and $ were few ;-) Wilko _ ____________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl http://www.tcja.nl/~wilko |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands - Do, or do not. There is no 'try' ----------------------------------------------------------------------Yoda