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From: Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org>
To: Christopher Tipper <chris.tipper@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: www/firefox
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Christopher Tipper <chris.tipper@gmail.com> writes:

> 1. Firefox relases 78.0 is not sheduled until 30-Jun
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Calendar
>     Why have there been two patches of this unreleased version in the last
> two days, particularly as pkg.freebsd.org cannot provide the releases fast
> enough?

For background see
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214070
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gecko/2015-September/005697.html

I've learnt to cope with the burnout by limiting my time in gecko@.
A lot of users want an up-to-date browser (unlike www/chromium ;),
so the process is optimized towards that goal. For example, getting users
interested to test updates before landing (e.g., during Beta phase) is
near impossible. By pushing RCs to /latest early /quarterly users get
more stable updates.

Do you have a better strategy herding the cats? There's no fish here to
make someone do the boring work.