From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 9 17:50:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02759 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02747 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:50:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA28054; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:49:11 -0800 (PST) To: Greg Lehey cc: Kevin Van Maren , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Swat teams (was: problem reports) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:50:25 +1030." <19981210115025.E12688@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 17:49:10 -0800 Message-ID: <28050.913254550@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 1. I would doubtless have answered many PRs instead of doing the work > I should be, *if* I knew how to do it. Where's the FM? I thought that was your job, Mr Author. :) Certainly nobody else around here seems to be writting FMs and it's probably silly to even hope that they will. I'd sooner wait for Godot than for the various folks here to write lots of docs. > 2. Asking people to join -committers may be the wrong way round. > Find somebody who wants do join, and say ``OK, first your > apprenticeship: 1000 bug reports well answered'' :-) This usually works, but sometimes you have to get more insistent, especially when the person in question is accumulating a backlog of open PRs. > 3. Somebody (probably you) needs to keep an eye on the bugs and see > that the important ones are recognized as important, and that they > get fixed. At the moment, any fool can put in a ``system down, I try, but there are a lot of freakin' PRs here and I'm not enough of a kernel hacker to commit the scarier looking ones myself. Also, every time I do, Bruce yells at me about a misplaced tab or some sort of similar criminal negligence. :-) > installing Linux emulation. Others may think little of that the > fact that NFS is so unreliable that you can't do a ``make world'' > on an NFS mounted file system. Clearly there needs to be a It's not that unreliable. I do this all the time. But yes, NFS needs lots of other things fixed. > 4. One way to at least raise the awareness of the problem is to have > a bugfixers mailing list, one of whose members is cvs-all. Sure, That's sort of what committers is already supposed to do. > necessary documentation, but somewhere the Core Team needs to be > involved. Doing what? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message