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Date:      Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:23:43 +0000
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
To:        Kevin Day <kevin@your.org>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, luciano@vespaperitivo.it
Subject:   Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers
Message-ID:  <20181004162343.GF74146@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>
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On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:21:03AM -0500, Kevin Day wrote:
>=20
>=20
> > On Oct 4, 2018, at 7:58 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:53 AM Luciano Mannucci <luciano@vespaperitivo.=
it>
> > wrote:
> >=20
> >>> While I have no objection for general direction, I have doubts about
> >> removal
> >>> of ste(4) and especially rl(4). These are cheap 100Mbit VERY popular =
NICs
> >>> sold in enourmous values in certain markets by vendors like D-Link and
> >>> TP-Link using various trade names.
> >>=20
> >=20
> > Enough people are using rl that it's off the list by my count.
>=20
> If you need any extra data, rl is the only one that I'd be sad to lose as=
 well. We have a lot of embedded devices that are still shipping today with=
 rl chips. I could chip in a little to sponsor someone to modernize the dri=
ver if needed.

It's definitly on the STAY list at this point.  If you could help get it
update that would be great, especially if it's still shipping (a very
useful datapoint).

-- Brooks

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