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Date:      Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:56:06 +0100
From:      Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Vote: making wayland=on default
Message-ID:  <47CA1ED8-A95E-4BD8-99EE-639AE466B9CB@grem.de>
In-Reply-To: <20171220123250.hzbxaz6qbfb2wzrh@ivaldir.net>
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> On 20. Dec 2017, at 13:32, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>=20
>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 09:20:20AM +0000, Johannes Lundberg wrote:
>> Hi
>>=20
>> I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state
>> having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the
>> end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland
>> enabled.
>>=20
>> libwayland-egl.so from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers
>> from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg
>> packages. (might be something more that I missed)
>>=20
>> Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with
>> flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices
>> like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no
>> escaping that.
>>=20
>> Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but
>> access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it.
>>=20
>> If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are
>> already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window
>> server.
>>=20
>> What do you think?
>>=20
>=20
> I agree on that, we should activate wayland everywhere by defualt, as it d=
oes
> not prevent at all from having a fully fonctionnal regular X working as we=
ll.
>=20
> All wayland option should be on, and this as nothing to do with flavors :)=

>=20
> Please do it :)
>=20
> Best regards,
> Bapt

I add my "vote" from the X11 list: Yes please, I had exactly that problem ye=
sterday.

Best,
Michael=




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