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Date:      Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:55:39 +0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
To:        mjacob@feral.com
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, dg@root.com, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: User block device access (was: cvs commit: src/sys/miscfs/specfs spec_vnops.c src/sys/sys vnode.h src/sys/kern vfs_subr.c) 
Message-ID:  <19990920005539.1AABE1CA7@overcee.netplex.com.au>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:47:31 MST." <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909191332050.42316-100000@semuta.feral.com> 

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Matthew Jacob wrote:
> 
> 
> > In message <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909191318570.42254-100000@semuta.feral.com>, Mat
    thew
> >  Jacob writes:
> > 
> > >> Anyway, David (and Kirk through him) has already said their piece, and
> > >> still nobody has named an actual application which depends on bdevs 
> > >> soo...
> > >
> > >Isn't that reasoning in reverse? Wouldn't be fairer to state "the problems
> > >that we have in the rest of the system are so large because we allow block
> > >device access to user programs that we must kill off such access?".
> > 
> > In an ideal world yes.  I think the fully expanded version sounds like
> > this: 
> > 
> >    "
> > 	Since having two kinds of access to the device confuses people
> > 	used to Linux
> 
> So to market differentiate FreeBSD from Linux (which is block device only,
> finally thinking about adding raw) we go for raw-only? :-)

.. and Linux has an implementation of both now.

Cheers,
-Peter



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