From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 12 13:08:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D3B16A402; Fri, 12 May 2006 13:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: from smtp.unsam.edu.ar (smtp.unsam.edu.ar [170.210.48.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F6643D4C; Fri, 12 May 2006 13:08:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: from omega.iib.unsam.edu.ar (omega.iib.unsam.edu.ar [192.168.10.14]) by smtp.unsam.edu.ar (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k4CD8hKq083411; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:08:43 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: from omega.iib.unsam.edu.ar (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by omega.iib.unsam.edu.ar (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4CD8EHu029548; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:08:14 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: (from fernan@localhost) by omega.iib.unsam.edu.ar (8.13.6/8.13.3/Submit) id k4CD8E83029547; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:08:14 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) X-Authentication-Warning: omega.iib.unsam.edu.ar: fernan set sender to fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar using -f Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:08:14 -0300 From: Fernan Aguero To: Niek Dekker Message-ID: <20060512130814.GD7267@iib.unsam.edu.ar> References: <20060512004214.GA17347@gothmog.pc> <44647F1C.8000200@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44647F1C.8000200@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: freebsd.org doesn't display well in Firefox 1.5.0.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:08:28 -0000 +----[ Niek Dekker (12.May.2006 09:32): | | Hi Giorgos, | | Of course. It is here: http://www.nlnet.org/freebsd.org.jpg | | Regards | Niek | | Giorgos Keramidas schreef: | | >On 2006-05-12 01:08, Niek Dekker wrote: | > | > | >>The new freebsd website displays faulty in Firefox current (1.5.0.3). Niek, It looks quite right on my firefox-1.5.0.3 http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan/freebsd/freebsd.org.jpg http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan/freebsd/firefox.about.jpg However, your screenshot does not look faulty to me ... it only has the navigation bar wrapped on a second line ... which suggests to me that the problem is that you're using a larger font size. Indeed if I increase the text size twice, I get this http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan/freebsd/freebsd.org.large.jpg My default font and size is 'Bitstream Vera Sans, 16' Actually, I would expect this to happen in any decent CSS-capable browser, not just firefox, and not particularly 1.5.03 Making a web page that can be stretched or reduced to different fonts and sizes is something that they tell you it's plain easy to do using CSS. But in reality, any web page with a complex layout (different containers for navbars, search boxes, news items, et cetera) will not be immune to window resizing and/or text enlarging, as there is a complex interaction between window size, text size, text container size going on underneath. The alternative would be to go back to plain HTML pages and only use CSS stylesheets to markup style (colors, font families, etc.) but not layout, or to use complex and convoluted CSS hacks (that sometimes need companion javascript) to serve the right page for your combination of OS/browser/monitor size/text size. The debian web pages are an example of a simple design that pretty much accomodate any change in window size (try narrowing the width of your firefox window) and text size: Debian home page with large text: http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan/freebsd/debian.org.large.jpg Debian home page with large text in a narrow browser window: http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan/freebsd/debian.org.large.narrow.jpg | >>Really a shame for an open source advocacy organisation! I wouldn't say that. | >>See screenshot. | +----] Fernan