From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 16:15:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F9BADCD75 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B951B6D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8257CADCD74; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F9EADCD73 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625501B68 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 87A8DCB8CAB; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:15:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:15:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <57130.128.135.52.6.1458836142.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:15:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Olivier Nicole" Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, ws@au.dyndns.ws, kraduk@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 -0000 On Wed, March 23, 2016 11:40 pm, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Valeri, > >> Partly to toss some more fuel into the fire ;-) and partly to discourage >> too harsh judgement of "some anti-vurus software not catching some >> viruses" (or should I say virii as a plural of Latin word virus?) > > I feel like bit of trolling :) > >> First of all, the whole anti-virus approach is fundamentally flawed. In >> fact, you can not enumerate bad (what anti-virus is trying to do). You >> only can enumerate good and prohibit everything else. So, don't be too >> harsh on those [anti-viruses] that miss some of evil things sometimes: >> remember, they are trying to do the task that is fundamentally flawed. > > And in the best of the wolrd, no one would be temptent to send viruses > (I doubt anyone uses virii, or else, they also call the veeroos, not > vayras). > > In the real world, you need to let the information flaw, so you have to > take some risk. While a deny default is the best policy, it is not > always possible to enforce. > >> Second, the very existence of Windows viruses is based on architecture >> flaws of MS Windows system IMHO. > > I understand that there is a good share of viruses for Android nowdays, > does that mean Android is build on to of Windows :) Are there many Android viruses? Then they (Android) probably do the same stupid thing (feeling safe because of having you - user - sitting with your stuff in jail), and are trying to execute whatever they see executable around... Did I guess it correctly? Valeri > >> Of course, most of us have to use and >> maintain that system in a course of fulfilling our job duties; that can >> not prevent us from having some attitude. Based on which I would >> discourage running for your Unix/Linux mail server virus scanning >> software >> on Windows machine. > > And that is why I am looking for an Av that run on freeBSD :) > > Best regards, > > Olivier > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++