Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:29:03 +0200 From: "Ronald Klop" <ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org> To: "Hutterer Robert" <robert.hutterer@univie.ac.at>, "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DELL SC430 & ahd0: <Adaptec 39320A Ultra320 SCSI adapter> Message-ID: <op.svp8upd68527sy@outgoing.local> In-Reply-To: <012f01c5a443$15a97b80$0901a8c0@virtual> References: <00e901c5a1cd$94e1c9c0$0901a8c0@virtual> <1F21DAB5B24D156A1C27045D@aslan.scsiguy.com> <012f01c5a443$15a97b80$0901a8c0@virtual>
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I had (about) the same problem at a linux server at my work last weekend. But is was not repeatable for me. Maybe it contains some info which helps you. Log: http://ronald.klop.ws/~ronald/linux.scsi.txt Ronald. On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:20:41 +0200, Hutterer Robert <robert.hutterer@univie.ac.at> wrote: > Thank you very much for the reaction (about a dozen user reported > similar problems the last month -but there seems no answer/solution) > >>> From what I can tell from the full card dump state, the 39320 attempted >> to send 77 transactions to your drive during a single connection. This >> connection hung, and the timeout occurred. Since the drive controlls >> the connection, it can cut the initiator off at any time if too many >> commands are sent. > That seems plausilbe also for a non-expert > >> So, this looks like a drive firmware bug. You >> should contact Dell to find out if newer firmware is available for your >> drive > Contacted Dell but they have no idea to fix this - freebsd is not > supported by dell -directed me to adaptec. > So I used the latest bios for the 39320 adapter from adaptec. > ===================================================================== > = Adaptec Ultra320 Family SCSI Controller = > = PnP/BBS BIOS Version 4.30.0, P/N 2038403-00 Rev. AA = > ===================================================================== > Soon after a reboot I got similar but slightly different messages (see > below - hope you understand it). I will see if I will get it more > frequently > >> drive. In the mean time, you can try lowering the tag depth allowed >> for your device. If the failure occurs sometime after rc processing, >> you can make a call early in the transition to multi-user like so: >> >> camcontrol tags da0 -N 64 # or some lower number > > Unfortunately I am not that expert to understand what to do with this > "call": to put it on the command line? To ma a startup command ? > >> If that won't work for you, you can enter a quirk into sys/cam/cam_xpt.c >> or just modify the last quirk entry (the default) to have a lower tag >> depth (it is currently 255). > > Also this hint I do not understand (I found (/usr/src/sys/cam/cam_xpr.c > file) maybe you can give me an idea or direct me to some instruction > pages > how to enter a quirl or modify the last quirk entry > > >> If you do get new firmware for your drive and that resolves this issue, >> please follow up to the list (and cc me if you don't mind) so that >> others that encounter the same issue can benefit from your experience. > I am not optimistic for that. Dell used the bios from adaptec. > Adaptec said this is the first time they heard from that and it seems > that no other os is affected. > > If nothing helps I will seriously think about changing to a SATA disk. > (But it is strange I have 39320 on a dell SC1420 and there is no problem) > > Thanks Robert > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > MESSAGES BEGIN > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ahd0: Recovery Initiated - Card was not paused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > ahd0: Dumping Card State at program address 0x38 Mode 0x22 > INTSTAT[0x0] SELOID[0x0] SELID[0x0] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] > INTCTL[0x80]:(SWTMINTMASK) SEQINTSTAT[0x0] SAVED_MODE[0x11] > DFFSTAT[0x33]:(CURRFIFO_NONE|FIFO0FREE|FIFO1FREE) > SCSISIGI[0x27]:(P_DATAOUT_DT|ACKI|REQI|BSYI) SCSIPHASE[0x0] > SCSIBUS[0xc7] LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) > SCSISEQ0[0x40]:(ENSELO) SCSISEQ1[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) > SEQCTL0[0x0] SEQINTCTL[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS2[0x0] > QFREEZE_COUNT[0x2] KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x2] MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] > MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] SSTAT0[0x10]:(SELINGO) SSTAT1[0x8]:(BUSFREE) > SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] > SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) > LQISTAT0[0x0] LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x80]:(PACKETIZED) > LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] LQOSTAT2[0xc0] > > SCB Count = 256 CMDS_PENDING = 82 LASTSCB 0x17 CURRSCB 0x1d NEXTSCB > 0xff40 > qinstart = 3008 qinfifonext = 3008 > QINFIFO: > WAITING_TID_QUEUES: > 0 ( 0x4a 0xa 0x75 0x6 0x76 0x49 0x9 0x3 0x69 0x24 0x6a 0x5f 0x40 > 0x51 0x52 0x53 0x54 0x55 0x56 0x78 0x79 0x71 0x2 0x45 0x46 0x35 0x0 0xc > 0x14 0x5b 0x5c 0x20 0x21 0x27 0x34 0x3c 0x2e 0x22 0x23 0x68 0x3b 0x59 > 0x5a 0x50 0x43 0x41 0xf 0x6b 0x6c 0x6d 0x1c 0x18 0x44 0x42 0x7a 0x62 > 0x63 0x8 0x1e 0x67 0x60 0x61 0x28 0x6f 0x47 0x48 0x36 0x37 0x13 0x10 > 0x11 0x2a 0x2f 0x66 0x5e 0x5 0x17 0x1d 0x5d 0x4d 0x4e 0x4f ) > Pending list: > 79 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 78 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 77 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 93 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 29 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 23 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 5 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 94 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 102 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 47 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 42 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 17 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 16 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 19 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 55 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 54 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 72 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 71 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 111 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 40 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 97 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 96 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 103 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 30 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 8 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 99 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 98 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 122 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 66 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 68 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 24 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 28 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 109 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 108 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 107 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 15 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 65 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 67 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 80 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 90 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 89 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 59 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 104 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 35 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 34 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 46 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 60 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 52 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 39 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 33 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 32 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 92 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 91 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 20 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 12 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 0 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 53 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 70 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 69 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 2 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 113 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 121 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 120 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 86 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 85 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 84 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 83 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 82 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 81 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 64 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 95 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 106 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 36 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 105 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 3 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 9 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 73 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 118 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 6 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 117 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 10 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > 74 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] > Total 82 > Kernel Free SCB list: 49 13 119 11 21 38 87 88 43 50 51 112 101 25 37 22 > 27 7 4 110 1 31 125 126 127 14 18 48 61 62 63 56 57 58 44 45 115 116 123 > 124 41 26 75 76 100 114 143 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 > 219 220 221 222 223 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 > 205 206 207 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 > 191 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 144 > 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 128 129 130 > 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 241 242 243 244 245 246 > 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 > 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 > Sequencer Complete DMA-inprog list: > Sequencer Complete list: > Sequencer DMA-Up and Complete list: > Sequencer On QFreeze and Complete list: > > > ahd0: FIFO0 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8276, SCB 0x4a > SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) > SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x4]:(DIRECTION) > DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) > SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] > SOFFCNT[0x0] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 > HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) > > ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == 0x826d, SCB 0x6a > SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) > SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) > SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] > SOFFCNT[0x0] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 > HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) > LQIN: 0x8 0x0 0x0 0x4a 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 > 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 > ahd0: LQISTATE = 0x1, LQOSTATE = 0x1a, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 > ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x1f MAXCMDCNT = 0x4d > ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 SAVED_LUN = 0x0 > > SIMODE0[0xc]:(ENOVERRUN|ENIOERR) > CCSCBCTL[0x4]:(CCSCBDIR) > ahd0: REG0 == 0x4f, SINDEX = 0x102, DINDEX = 0x102 > ahd0: SCBPTR == 0x4e, SCB_NEXT == 0x4f, SCB_NEXT2 == 0xff5d > CDB 2a 0 d 1c 20 84 > STACK: 0x24 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): SCB 29 - timed out > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): No other SCB worth waiting for... > ahd0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 82 SCBs aborted > Copied 18 bytes of sense data offset 12: 0x70 0x0 0x6 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 > 0xa 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x29 0x2 0x2 0x0 0x0 0x0 > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 1 dd fb e4 0 0 20 0 > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): Scsi bus reset occurred field replaceable unit: 2 > (da0:ahd0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > MESSAGES END > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com> > To: "Hutterer Robert" <robert.hutterer@univie.ac.at>; > <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:44 AM > Subject: Re: DELL SC430 & ahd0: <Adaptec 39320A Ultra320 SCSI adapter> > > >>> My dell Sc430 Server with Freebsd 5.4 gives soon after a reboot and >>> minimal >>> harddisk actions (erase a file or directory) strange messages >>> concerning >>> Adaptec SCSI adapter: >> >>> From what I can tell from the full card dump state, the 39320 attempted >> to send 77 transactions to your drive during a single connection. This >> connection hung, and the timeout occurred. Since the drive controlls >> the connection, it can cut the initiator off at any time if too many >> commands are sent. So, this looks like a drive firmware bug. You >> should contact Dell to find out if newer firmware is available for your >> drive. In the mean time, you can try lowering the tag depth allowed >> for your device. If the failure occurs sometime after rc processing, >> you can make a call early in the transition to multi-user like so: >> >> camcontrol tags da0 -N 64 # or some lower number >> >> If that won't work for you, you can enter a quirk into sys/cam/cam_xpt.c >> or just modify the last quirk entry (the default) to have a lower tag >> depth (it is currently 255). >> >> If you do get new firmware for your drive and that resolves this issue, >> please follow up to the list (and cc me if you don't mind) so that >> others that encounter the same issue can benefit from your experience. >> >> -- >> Justin >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Ronald Klop Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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