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Date:      Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:11:13 +0100
From:      "Pietro Cerutti" <gahr@gahr.ch>
To:        Alexandr Kovalenko <alexandr.kovalenko@gmail.com>
Cc:        cvs-ports@freebsd.org, miwi@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/net-im/openfire Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/net-im/openfire/files patch-build-build.xml
Message-ID:  <20110111111112.GG21802@gahrfit.gahr.ch>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik4a_BH1DZt0cEh0nB1yg5RtM=XqwXkFeR8Xoo2@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2011-Jan-11, 12:01, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Pietro Cerutti <gahr@gahr.ch> wrote:
> > On 2011-Jan-10, 20:33, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote:
> >> Beta?
> >>
> >> May I ask, why this went into net-im/openfire port, but not to new
> >> port net-im/openfire-devel ?
> >
> > Ok, I guess I owe an explanation here, since quite a few people have
> > raised concerns about me committing a beta version to openfire/.
> >
> > I am personally against -devel ports. These tends to get marked as
> > IGNORE or anyway no longer be valid after the -devel branch has turned
> > to stable. I prefer to keep the latest available version in myport/,
> > upon user request, keep previous (stable and maintained) versions in
> > myport10, myport11, etc... See for example java/netbeans, java/netbeans=
5,
> > java/netbeans55, java/netbeans61. This brings two advantages:
> >
> > - the cost of maintaining a previous version in myport10/ is ~=3D 0
> > - the myport/ directory always contains the latest available version
> >
> > It is a porter's discretion to ponder wheter a particular release
> > version is stable enough to get into the main myport/ directory.
> >
> > In this particular case, openfire-3.7.0.beta seemed to my workable enou=
gh.
>=20
> Can you understand, that many of people use ports in production
> systems (surprise!) and expect NO beta versions in non -devel ports,
> no sudden breakage of their systems without any notice in UPDATING and
> so on, whatever you personally think about that. Ports system is not
> your personal sandbox/private branch of ports. It is what people use
> on their production systems.
>=20
> If you want to commit beta, you have 2 choices:
>=20
> 1. Wait until non-beta to commit.
> 2. Commit beta to -devel port after repocopy.

OK, first off let me tell you that I don't like at all the tone of your
email.

That being said, I agree that my view of -devel ports might be a bit
personal and might not be shared by the majority of users. For this
reason, I'll do as you suggest:

- backport 3.6.0 into net-im/openfire
- create a net-im/openfire-devel for 3.7.0.beta

I hope this solves all your problems.

Best Regards,

--=20
Pietro Cerutti
The FreeBSD Project
gahr@FreeBSD.org

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