From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 26 17:30:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41F737B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net [24.50.78.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9EA43E31 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwvw@adelphia.net) Received: from mswolf ([68.70.220.91]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GZVTEJ03.416; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:30:19 -0400 Message-ID: <00d301c23504$9bbe0c60$0a01a8c0@mswolf> From: "Michael Wells" To: "Peter Leftwich" , "FreeBSD LIST" References: <20020726195011.N18019-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Subject: Re: Peter heads back to M$FT WinBloze Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:29:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter, I can surely understand your frustrations. I have has some real X86 issues lately and have had to spend literally hours fixing my own mistakes trying to upgrade my source. I am getting hooked on this OS for one reason. I like the "just because I can part of it". I like the fact that I have control over things. I am also excited about the chance to start porting some software to FreeBSD. I guess I am an activist at heart. It's hard for me to sit idly by and watch others have all the fun. That being said, I think it would be a long time before I could be totally M$ free as much as I want to. This list has been extremely helpful in getting me through several issues. One idea I have been thinking about is creating local support groups. I notice you are in La Jolla and I am in Carlsbad. A local call or a stop off at the starbucks to exchange some ideas would be an easy task. I can imagine several local support groups making up regional groups. I am involved with HAM radio and these guys know the meaning of community and it's not just on the radio. I might be dreaming but the same could be reality for the BSD community. What ever you choose the best of luck to you! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Leftwich" To: "FreeBSD LIST" Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:06 PM Subject: Peter heads back to M$FT WinBloze > Dear List, I've been reading some compelling posts lately about people > giving up on FreeBSD, and may soon -- sadly -- join their ranks! > > (There was the guy who posted about FreeBSD being great for servers > (surely) but falling short in the desktop/workstation/laptop AND > ease-of-use category. Now there's the thread about Dan wanting his xp > back. I can relate!) > > I gave up on Win98 SR1 (1 38gb partition on a 40gb HD) back in Feb 2002 > when I installed a Firewire card and Windows got super flakey on me. > Didn't like me for that move. I'd often abuse IE (browser) for hours until > it brought the stupid 16bit DOS-based OS down with it. Well, after > deciding "that's it" and some PartitionMagic four-ways, I blew the dust off > my FreeBSD 4.3 CDROMs and installed them by the seat of my pants, but could > never get XFree86 3.3.6 working - blank screen! > > Well at some point recently I ran `boot0cfg /dev/ad0s2` which wiped my MBR > completely (I just wanted to boot straight into FreeBSD but still keep the > DOS slice around as mountable). So now I'm on an old 8.4gb HD that I > booted to absolutely $FREE$ :) floppies and put 4.6 onto, however, XFree86 > 4.2.0 now suddenly works as does KDE and a very "krashy" Konqueror browser (sigh). > > Realizing that plugins are impossible (Flash), and the hassle of getting > sound players working and my Canon scanner and webcam and PDF readers and > *.DOC readers, I think I may be out of the FreeBSD workstation game. > > Finally going from UNIX user (since 1992) to sysadmin was a terrific > learning experience, but a "learning XP" seems more attractive for now > especially as XP is built on (sort of) NT and is 32bit and uses protected > memory ... until FreeBSD is 34,523,455% more of an OUT-OF-THE-BOX-GUI OS. :( > > Comments? Admonitions? Saving graces? > > -- > Peter Leftwich > President & Founder > Video2Video Services > Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA > +1-413-403-9555 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message