From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 06:51:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F14316A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:51:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80C343D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so1038924wri for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kXTChTNpIPPb/t8dI5h2PZohME8ABouyuKQN1OBkTW9i6DCs8nH7YHL3goI+Z7iD5eZUbQPblN4RGAI2Z1XRiID+nL07Wua03FBn+f5VNDL+j1zp+Kje6c7LivsLrvwN0KYfjPV1fqvBdSQmtmkZV7UvusASCyRsQThS0Xt4JpE= Received: by 10.65.253.11 with SMTP id f11mr2270443qbs; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.213.4 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e0601152251l2d689092rf4b45c095ae2802e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:51:28 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <43CB01F4.80202@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43C93519.1040309@gmx.net> <43CB01F4.80202@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Frank Staals Subject: Re: Mail filtering at server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:51:29 -0000 Hi I'd agree with the learning curve for SA. it's not huge, but there is one. as for time spend on admin, for me a few minutes per day making sure there's no new handy handy rules to add by lurking on the sa-users list. I use RulesDuJour to get most of my non-included rules to update automatically, and I use MailScanner to glue the MTA, SA and virus scanners together. Very little work. But yes for a single user T'birds default spam trap may work quite well and do the job quickly. -- Martin On 1/16/06, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Frank Staals wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the > > system as mailserver, so I set up sendmail using > > this guide: > > > > http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html > > > > as imap server I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: > > > > 1) I would like to get all mail from questions@freebsd.org > > in a seperate directory. Currently I do this by filtering my > > mail in the mailclient ( Thunderbird ). The directory it uses > > for this is currently ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep > > that, how can I do this ? Can I add this to /etc/mail/access ? > > what would then be the syntax ? > > > > 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: > > currently I set up thunderbird to do this: the mail > > marked as spam/junk dissapears into the junk folder: > > ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? > > can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install > > an other program from the portstree > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > First question: what's wrong with the way TBird does it? > (Sorry, that's the "consultant" in me coming out....) It does > seem like you want whatever you use to do it in the same > way that it's currently being done, so why change? > > In particular, your (2) above is an area of little consensus; > about the only thing most people agree on is that spammers > should have *some* body part removed, but we can't even > agree which one, much less exactly how to handle their > um, "product". > > Some argue that spam should not be processed by your > MTA at all; this has resulted in "blacklisting" and "greylisting". > Others figure that an automatic "trashing" of the spam after > receipt is OK. First, decide which you are/want to be. > > Sendmail has, IIRC, a built in way to check RealTime blackhole > DNS lists. Any farther than that, you get into Milter (Mail > fILTER) or SpamAssassin (as mentioned previously) or Amavis > +SpamAssassin, or ..., or ... (there are several ways to skin > the cat). > > Quite possibly, the best question for you ATM is: are you > protecting just yourself from spam, or are others going to > be affected by what you do to your SendMail? > > Then, do some research and reading on the problem. > > I've tried SendMail+Amavis+SpamAssassin with some success. > One big issue for me: time to administer the server, in particular > the "learning curve" phase. > > I've also done some other tricks, like listing IP blocks against > sendmail in /etc/hosts.allow; but this has gotten me into trouble > as, occasionally, international correspondents (like here on the > lists) ended up "blocked" by my MTA. > > So, good luck! and, "to each his own". > > Kevin Kinsey > > -- > Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another. > -- H. L. Mencken > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >