From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 3 16:06:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170E99C7 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from genie@geniechka.ru) Received: from s1.loshmanov.ru (s1.loshmanov.ru [188.40.115.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9481672 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geniepc2011 (0894461339.static.corbina.ru [95.31.5.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by s1.loshmanov.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CAA30DF2F07 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:06:49 +0400 (MSK) Message-ID: <3576980122BB4807B7ACD5BC4A8790F8@geniepc2011> From: "Eugene" To: References: <201307031317.r63DHQqR034336@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <1372865169.34030.YahooMailNeo@web165004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1372865169.34030.YahooMailNeo@web165004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: X client without X server Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:06:44 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 16:06:53 -0000 Hello, It is usually not about disk space (though that is also not exactly free and unlimited either), but about compilation/update delays, ease of management, additional security risks, additional ways to fail for the system as a whole, etc. Not to mention simple elegance. Best wishes Eugene -----Original Message----- From: Bill Tillman Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:26 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X client without X server Just my 2¢ worth on this. Sure, one always wants to keep overhead low. But the days of limited RAM, small hard drives, etc...are long since behind us. I remember in 1994 when and IT consultant came in and built a Novell server for us with a whopping 1 GB hard drive. And back then how we thought with a 1 GB hard drive we'd never run out of space. Well these days one could easily run out of space with such a small hard drive. But with today's systems having 2 or 3 TB drives and GB's of RAM, something as trivial as X-Server should not be a problem. If you don't need it, don't run it. But to worry about the space it takes up is kind of a moot point these days. And like some of the other replies mentioned, xterm may not require it, but one of xterm's dependencies may. I run Asterisk routinely on my systems and I'm always amazed at how installing one port requires no less than 38 other ports to be installed as well.