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Date:      Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        nclayton@lehman.com
Cc:        scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Tapes written on 2.2.8 not readable on 3.2 (was Re: PR docs/6681)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9906031722200.77206-100000@semuta.feral.com>
In-Reply-To: <19990601095207.S22307@lehman.com>

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I've editted the PR to note this is a tape driver problem (if any).
I'll need more info from Julian, but I'll contact him directly.


On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 nclayton@lehman.com wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I'm not on the SCSI list myself, I'm forwarding this on behalf of Julian
> Stacey.
> 
> I've been closing doc PRs, including docs/6681, and contacted Julian to see
> if his PR was still relevant.
> 
> In what follows, "> >" is my message to Julian, ">" is his reply.  If any
> of you SCSI gurus has the time could you take a look at this?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> N
> 
> On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 12:10:22AM +0200, Julian Stacey wrote:
> > > It's this (from the PR);
> > > 
> > >         I suggest you append some of this info:
> > > 
> > >           (ncr0:5:0): "DEC TLZ06     (C)DEC 0389" type 1 removable SCSI 2
> > >           st0(ncr0:5:0): Sequential-Access
> > >           st0(ncr0:5:0): 5.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 8)
> > >           density code 0x0,  drive empty
> > > 
> > >           DAT drive, does 2 Gig with 90M tape, or more with compression on.
> > >           SIngle slot height.
> >
> > Works on 2.2.8 
> > 
> > >           (ncr0:6:0): "TANDBERG  TDC 3800 =04Y" type 1 removable SCSI 2
> > >           st1(ncr0:6:0): Sequential-Access
> > >           st1(ncr0:6:0): asynchronous.
> > >           density code 0x0,  drive empty
> > > 
> > >           A 525 M QIC  drive,
> > >           reads 45 & 60M & 150M & 525M,
> > >           writes 150 & 525,
> > >           does variable block sizing by default
> > >                   (mt blocksize 512 to suppress that).
> > >           Single slot height.
> >
> > Works on 2.2.8
> > 3.2-RELEASE Seems to move the drive, but couldn't read tapes written 
> > on 2.2.8
> > 
> > >           (aha0:3:0): "  " type 1 removable SCSI 1
> > >           st0(aha0:3:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x5,  drive empty
> > > 
> > >           A Cipher QIC-24 SCSI, does 60 Meg
> > >           Has a twist lever like a 5" floppy, & a pull out drawer.
> > >           Double height ie 2 slots.
> >
> > Works on 2.2.8 
> > 
> > > I know that the switch to CAM broke some stuff, but I'm not sure how
> > > extensive the breakage is -- if these aren't affected, and work with 
> > > -stable/-current then I'll update the Handbook.
> > 
> > I have 2 TANDBERG TDC 3800 drives, one on 
> >
> > 	3.2-RELEASE
> > 	sa0: <TANDBERG TDC 3800 =04Y> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
> > 	sa0: 4.032MB/s transfers (4.032MHz, offset 7)
> >
> > one on
> >
> > 	2.2.8-RELEASE
> > 	(ncr0:6:0): "TANDBERG  TDC 3800 =04Y" type 1 removable SCSI 2
> > 	st1(ncr0:6:0): Sequential-Access 
> > 	st1(ncr0:6:0): asynchronous.
> > 	density code 0x0,  drive empty
> > 
> > Seems to me on brief experiment,
> >  3.2 can write data that 2.2.8 can read,
> > but 2.2.8 tapes are not readable on 3.2 system
> > (a disaster for anyone relying on backup tapes (not me thankfully)).
> > 
> > Anyway, that was just a quick check,
> > maybe it's to do with the blocksize 512 stuff,
> > but looks like this is a problem.
> > 
> > As I have 2 drives, 1 on 2.2.8 & 1 on 3.2, I may be uniquely useful
> > for test purposes for scsi team, feel free to pass my name along.
> > I am not worried about installing current on the 3.2 Tandberg box,
> > except that can't spare too much time for it.
> > I am not prepared to destabilise my other main 2.2.8 Tandberg box though :-)
> > 
> > In light of this nasty suprise I have cancelled plan to upgrade my 2.2.8
> > main  system (that has the DEC TLZ06 DAT) until this problem is solved.
> > Once it's solved for Tandberg, I can try.
> > 
> > The system with the Cipher QIC-24 will be upgraded to 3.2 in about 2 weeks.
> > & I can let you know about that.
> > 
> > What was intended as a docu. upgrade has become a warning of peril :-)
> > Thanks, I'm glad to know, let me know if I can help,
> > feel free to cut/paste forward to scsi@ (not on that list myself).
> 
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