From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 13:38:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C0116A41F for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:38:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from smtp4.suscom.net (smtp4.suscom.net [64.78.119.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15B743D5A for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7975415005F for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27358-01-12 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from seibercom.net (ip148.217.susc.suscom.net [216.45.217.148]) by smtp4.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EBE5315005E for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (//gerard [192.168.0.2]) by seibercom.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBQDbuN5093657 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:37:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:37:59 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: gerard@seibercom.net Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <200512260528.14110.kstewart@owt.com> References: <20051225221653.GA28062@lothlorien.nagual.st> <200512260528.14110.kstewart@owt.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20051226083404.8C5A.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.24.01 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: Re: BSD Question's. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:38:05 -0000 On Monday, December 26, 2005 8:28:13 AM Kent Stewart Subject: Re: BSD Question's. Wrote these words of wisdom: > On Sunday 25 December 2005 02:16 pm, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: > > > There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with > > > Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with firefox but that > > > doesn't always work even with firefox on XP. > > > > NO site should be designed to work with IExplorer. I know it's done, > > but it should not! Why do we have W3C? If we could all just do things > > "by the book" the internet would be a much nicer place to visit. > > > > People who design for IExplorer are bad! They have microsoft in mind > > and _not_ the visitors. I hate it when choice gets violated! It > > should be called a crime against freedom. > > I have seen some that don't work properly except with IE but the only > sites I have encountered that demand IE are online banking. They seem > to only understand how to let you login securely using IE. > > There are some sites such as Tyco that only work with Mozilla style > browsers. It depends on the push techology built into Mozilla style > browsers. You can see what the Navy Observatory time is but the > automated gif only works with the mozilla products. See > http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/what1.html > > Each browser has some technology that they depend on and you have to use > that browser before you can use their services. The 80/20 rule probably > applies because the banks can program for IE and get 85% of the people > without trippling their web development costs. > > Kent > > > > > imho: sites designed for 'iexplorer only' should be banned ;-) > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA ***** REPLY SEPARATOR ***** On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied: I belong to a HS Officials Association. The entire BOCES site, where I can confirm assignments, etc., is written in VB. I can only use IE to access that site. I have spoken to the director of BOCES operations, and they informed me that there was no way they were going to change the site. It cost them many $thousands$ of dollars to have set up. I do have to admit that it works flawlessly though. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net