Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 11:22:52 -0800 From: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Yoshihiro Ota <ota@j.email.ne.jp>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD X11 mailing list <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>, greg@unrelenting.technology Subject: Re: DRM removal soon Message-ID: <C5684C63-6C86-46B6-8820-AA20F7273B94@cschubert.com> In-Reply-To: <20190228191511.GA18089@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <CANCZdfptG6hwdDc=RFMUA%2BfA7eMijPycY24dcqPLi7aP-whR-A@mail.gmail.com> <20190223003126.4aec5a01b77ec9bf9ea0992a@j.email.ne.jp> <1550926557.1795.0@unrelenting.technology> <20190223234351.0addf9de71953eb31136322b@j.email.ne.jp> <CANCZdfr0kkFGxDxETwjj2tKb=vZCSHrQPRCobYr0bz7EcN16dw@mail.gmail.com> <20190228004220.fb3ed982fa8a34252ec19bb5@j.email.ne.jp> <603D07F7-CA80-40C6-8D55-3DC6EABE667E@cschubert.com> <20190228191511.GA18089@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On February 28, 2019 11:15:11 AM PST, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask=2Eapl=2Ewa= shington=2Eedu> wrote: >On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:49:51AM -0800, Cy Schubert wrote: >> On February 27, 2019 9:42:20 PM PST, Yoshihiro Ota ><ota@j=2Eemail=2Ene=2Ejp> wrote: >> >On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:24:15 -0700 >> >Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp=2Ecom> wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 3:31 AM Yoshihiro Ota <ota@j=2Eemail=2Ene=2Ejp= > >> >wrote: >> >>=20 >> >> I also found that running kldstat was the easiest way to find >which >> >of >> >> > driver to use instead of dmesg=2E >> >> > >> >>=20 >> >> Is this a suggestion for changing the drm-kmod package output? Or >> >just a >> >> helpful hint for others? >> >>=20 >> >> Tanks again=2E >> >>=20 >> >> Warner >> > >> >This is a helpful hint for others and a suggestion to update >documents=2E >> > >> >I had read >> >>https://www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/releases/12=2E0R/relnotes=2Ehtml#hardware-gr= aphics >> >and https://wiki=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/Graphics before I started=2E I had 4= old >> >laptops and 1 vmawre and I didn't remember which machine uses which >CPU >> >:) >> >If the doc can mention to check kldstat output and go to >corresponding >> >section, that will make steps easier=2E >> > >> >I converted to the port based driver for 4 psychical machines and 1 >> >vmware machine (although vmware do not use neither of driver=2E) All >of >> >them run 12=2E0-RELEASE=2E All of them start X and work fine=2E I wi= ll >> >likely get to 13-CURRENT a lot later as I ran 13-CURRENT without X >and >> >in vmware most of times=2E >> > >> > >> The ports work as advertised=2E IMO graphics/drm-legacy should be >> depreciated sooner than later=2E I would expect the graphics team >> could better spend their time and energy on drm-current, which >> btw works perfectly on my old laptop converted to i386 testbed, >> than maintaining old bitrot=2E When can we expect drm-legacy to >> finally be removed from ports? >>=20 > >drm-legacy-kmd has already been *depreciated*? > >Perhaps, you meant deprecated=2E :) > >Hopefully, never=2E drm-current-kmod locks up my laptop=2E >drm-legacy-kmod works=2E Yes=2E drm-legacy-kmod should be removed from ports sooner than later=2E d= rm-current-kind works perfectly on older gear like my 13 year old Pentium-M= , which was repurposed as an i386 test platform years ago=2E The reason to remove old software from base is evident=2E The same reason = holds for ports as well=2E The ports team are also a limited resource=2E=20 --=20 Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use=2E Cheers, Cy Schubert <Cy=2ESchubert@cschubert=2Ecom> FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD=2Eorg> Web: http://www=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few=2E
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