From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 29 07:27:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA00FC40 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95601130E for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41CEB27341 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:27:53 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <529841F9.5090904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:27:53 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130530 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: math "formulae" using libreoffice References: <20131120000851.GA8007@ethic.thought.org> <20131120014303.7eb2bd44.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131120014134.GA9893@ethic.thought.org> <20131121001853.GA18522@ethic.thought.org> <20131121211010.fd168924.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131121234959.GB28395@ethic.thought.org> <20131122011153.fc81837d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131122005933.GA3297@ethic.thought.org> <20131122022650.2636ef22.freebsd@edvax.de> <52973695.4070208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20131129054342.d1e814d8.freebsd@edvax.de> <2154b7b42fce5a342aeeee5a1e6f59cf@mhoenicka.de> In-Reply-To: <2154b7b42fce5a342aeeee5a1e6f59cf@mhoenicka.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:27:56 -0000 On 11/29/13 17:03, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Am 2013-11-29 05:43, schrieb Polytropon: >> On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:27:01 +1000, Da Rock wrote: >>> On 11/22/13 11:26, Polytropon wrote: >>> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >>> >> I'l ck it out, thankee. I have been wondering about the diff >>> >> between openX and libreX {X == "office"} but guessed that >>> >> "open" was what the BSD's chose ... >>> > No, they are two different products, maintained independently. >>> > If I remember correctly, it started with StarOffice as the first >>> > major office suite becoming a free product (I've been using >>> > version 3.x and 4.0 of this), it was then "incorporated" by >>> > Sun which later became OpenOffice. When Oracle bought and >>> > (mostly) destroyed Sun, OpenOffice was one of the victims; >>> > they added proprietary code and finally abandoned it. That >>> > was the time when LibreOffice was forked. Today, LibreOffice >>> > is _the_ office suite per se. >>> Not to start a war, but it went StarOffice as a free product (up to >>> about 5 or 6, I think), then Sun made it a paid product and forked >>> OpenOffice as an open source alternative (good ole Sun); then Oracle >>> got >>> involved and Libreoffice was forked with some of the original devs >>> walking with it and overhauling it in the process, and finally with >>> OpenOffice finally abandoned to the wolves by Oracle at a later date >>> and >>> rescued by the Apache incubator project not so many years ago now. >> >> That won't start a war, at least not from my side. :-) >> >> I wasn't aware that Sun didn't continue the "tradition of free" >> from the start. It's always nice to learn something about history. >> So todays we're left with the decision "Apache OpenOffice vs. >> TDF LibreOffice" (just mentioning the "big players", there's >> still AbiWord, Gnumeric et al. as separate components)... > > I'm afraid this is still not quite correct. To the best of my > knowledge, StarDivision (from Hamburg, Germany) sold StarOffice as a > commercial software until they were purchased by Sun. However, at this > point the software had been free for personal use for about a year or > so. It was not open source though. After purchasing StarOffice, Sun > made it free for commercial use as well and eventually released the > sources as well. This recollection matches what I read here: > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarDivision The plot thickens... :)