From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jun 30 1:34: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63DD37B410 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 01:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a155.otenet.gr [212.205.215.155]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5U8XqF20778; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:33:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5U86Op26938; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:06:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:06:23 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Pedro F Giffuni Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft giving back to FreeBSD !! Message-ID: <20010630110623.A26839@hades.hell.gr> References: <3B3A2E2F.A74DDCC8@pitt.edu> <3B3A2ECF.6FECA0E3@Silver-Lynx.com> <20010630061123.E20203@hades.hell.gr> <3B3D8FC5.C5366C3B@pitt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B3D8FC5.C5366C3B@pitt.edu>; from pfg1+@pitt.edu on Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 01:37:25AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 01:37:25AM -0700, Pedro F Giffuni wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> Corel Draw is a nice program to have. [snip] >> I even bought a copy of the program when I was running Linux on my >> home PC. > > Even when I am aware that our linux emulator is excellent, I made up my > personal excuse and I never buy commercial software for linux: A native > port is always better... Well, I was more of a Linux user a the time. The port was native to the OS I was running at home :) >> Then support was dropped. And it seemed to bring back all those dim >> memories of hating commercial vendors, just because of the ease which >> they can 'abandon' their users with. > > Support? curious... MS office has always had bugs and I've never known > anyone that calls MS asking for support (I bet it does happen though). > Where I worked in a previous life we also paid this high support fees to > IBM. When we stopped paying no one noticed the difference. Well, english is not my native language, and it shows :/ By 'support' I meant active development, and technical support. Your experiences with IBM are exactly what I was accustomed to, a few years back; before I discovered Linux, GNU and open source. Then, one day I scratched it all, and thought 'hey, I will try FreeBSD, just for a change'. And that's pretty much it... I never looked back. Documentation, support, and seeing a lively, active group of people behind this, were among the most promiment reasons for this. I always seem to feel warm and fuzzy inside, when I see a bug report closed for FreeBSD. Sometimes it might seem a bit long when this happens, after the bug report is filed. Then, one morning you wake up and receive all those email messages from freebsd-bugs that shows a developer spent the morning, afternoon, or night (whichever was best at the time), and there is this lot of new messages indicating that a dozen or so of bugs is dead: analyzed, fixed, committed, thank you! This feeling, is somewhat rare (if in fact it exists at all), with most commercial products I've worked so far. Perhaps, this is one of those bad luck things. Then again, perhaps not :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message