From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 4 8: 2:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63A837B401; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8251B43E3B; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lomifeh@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (bgp586692bgs.jdover01.nj.comcast.net [68.39.202.147]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.4 (built Aug 5 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H52003W47767Q@mtaout06.icomcast.net>; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:01:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:02:01 -0500 From: Larry Sica Subject: Re: Why Use a Daemon as a Symbol since it alienates many? In-reply-to: <3DC62FAF.9053A5F8@ene.asda.gr> To: Lefteris Tsintjelis Cc: Paul Everlund , JT32255@aol.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.546) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 03:28 AM, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: > Grow ups or not and as ridiculous as it may sound and probably is, > these are both good points and they both could have effect on FreeBSD's > popularity, the satan looking symbol and the hostility towards > Berkeley. > As for the symbol, well, I would expect it to look something more world > wide acceptable, neutral, and cute, like Penguin is and not as a > "demon". We all know the difference between "daemons" and "demons", > however, there are plenty of people that don't and as far as popularity > goes compared to Linux, well, popular doesn't necessarily mean a > "kitchen sink" linux OS, IF HANDLED RIGHT of course, and I am sure that > there isn't anyone here that wouldn't like FreeBSD being popular. After > all, I think it deserves a lot more than Linux does and the way these > third party linux companies such as RedHat and SuSE are handling it. > I'd love to know who exactly it alienates besides some hicks that wouldn't use it anyway? > I am moving this to -chat. It doesn't belong here. > > Regards, > Lefteris > > Paul Everlund wrote: >> >> JT32255@aol.com wrote: >>> The traditional devil horns derive from goats, which if you have >>> ever been >>> around goats, seen how they can climb, eat all vegetation in sight, >>> climb >>> trees, get on roofs, etc., how kids gambol, is understandable. But >>> it >>> alienates so many. Heh the imagery is far older than that, goes back to mesopotamia, there was a night demon that many think the modern imagery for the devil descended from. Also it wasnt just the goat, but couldbe any animal, often a goat, or a bull, or a dog or some other animal. >>> But as it alienates so many Christians, Jews and Muslims >>> as a little Satan symbol, really limits the widespread use, public >>> and tax >>> paid support and availability of BSD. A better symbol might be the >>> statue of >>> liberty, or the creator of the first Library, Aristotle. The >>> Penguin symbol >>> is LINUX' best advantage over BSD, not to mention all the public >>> hostility >>> towards Berkley. >> All the public hostility towards Berkley? Where exactly? And imho the linux is annoying but it never stopped me from trying Linux. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message