From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 18:10:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA3416A420; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9FA43D48; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:10:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from p54A3D18F.dip.t-dialin.net [84.163.209.143] (helo=donor.laier.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKxQS-1E9o56148z-0004Si; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:10:04 +0200 From: Max Laier To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:09:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <001301c5acb2$36d8c820$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> <20050829175029.GC18276@odin.ac.hmc.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050829175029.GC18276@odin.ac.hmc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2886264.EKM6Mzy3H5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200508292010.02732.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:61c499deaeeba3ba5be80f48ecc83056 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Bart Van Kerckhove , thompsa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Feature requests / inquiries. X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:10:09 -0000 --nextPart2886264.EKM6Mzy3H5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 29 August 2005 19:50, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 05:56:25PM +0200, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: > > Dear Sirs / Fellow Freebsd Freaks, > > > > I've been using FreeBSD for a while now as a routing/firewalling > > platform, but recent developments in our network infrastructure confront > > me with some lack of features in the IPstack. > > In a nutshell, i'm looking for support for (in order of importance to m= e) > > : (r)STP, ECMP, and LACP. > > > > For STP, i have found a patch that contained a port from netbsd code of > > if_bridge ; but i'm way too insecure about running this on a production > > system. > > For ECMP, the only thing i found out was that there used to be a patchs= et > > that did something like it, but went defunct after 4.8. > > LACP: no idea at all, sorry :) > > > > As these are features we'll be using some time soon now, i can say we > > _need_ them. I have even seriously considered moving to NetBSD; the lack > > of NIC polling support for the intel chipsets i'm using is holding me > > back at the moment. > > I do not want to move over to linux, for various reasons. > > So I figured perhaps some of the freebsd community is also interested in > > these features, and I might as well sponsor (part of?) its development. > > Are there any persons interested in developing these features, or do th= ey > > already exist and am I just plain ignorant (forgive me if that is the > > case). Please note that i'm not interested in the netgraph approach, as > > that's (imho) just a hack around it, and it's not functioning with for > > example gnu/zebra et all. > > > > I am looking for short- and long-term solutions, anything that's > > developed trough sponsoring i'd be happy to contribute to the main tree. > > As this would be the first time we actually ask for a specific feature = in > > any OSS software, I could be way off the scale with the figures i had in > > mind. This would be about 200 to 400 euro per feature, the more importa= nt > > ones like STP and ECMP are totally open to discussion. > > > > Any takers? Any enlightenment? Thanks for helping out in advance ;) > > if_bridge has been imported into FreeBSD 6.0 and I believe will be > merged to 5.x before 5.5. A candidate MFC patchset is at:=20 http://people.freebsd.org/~thompsa/if_bridge-5stable.diff and is believed t= o=20 be production quality (judging from the reports for RELENG_6 so far). Ther= e=20 might be minor problems and/or yet undiscovered problems, but only testing= =20 gets it there. Andrew is certainly thankful for any feedback! > I can't speak for ECMP. > > LACP is supported by ng_fec. The fact that you don't like it is a > seperate issue. FWIW, ng_fec only uses netgraph for configuration. > It's not really a netgraph node. I'd personally like to see OpenBSD's > if_trunk imported and LACP added, but I certainly don't have time. It's certainly a good idea to look at if_trunk. I don't have hardware to=20 build a testbed, but I belive there are people out there who do and also ha= ve=20 the skills to make it happen. The main problem is: Whoever does this must= =20 have (physical) access to a reasonable testbed and free time while there=20 (i.e. agreement with employer etc) =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart2886264.EKM6Mzy3H5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDE096XyyEoT62BG0RAgv8AJ4tDYC03S7+81PgNVwdX3sLIYpSbwCcCY+X +Vp4qPfdZCumMDFJ+mdmDnY= =XBn3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2886264.EKM6Mzy3H5--