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Date:      Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:24:56 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Michael Tuexen <tuexen@freebsd.org>, "koobs@freebsd.org" <koobs@freebsd.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: error: yacc.h: No such file or directory
Message-ID:  <7FBAA185-655B-41D4-A92D-2E7FAE2A63CE@cschubert.com>
In-Reply-To: <9a0398e387b34b0f12a9c107a440477153ba147d.camel@freebsd.org>
References:  <201906191630.x5JGUJ3H018954@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <9a0398e387b34b0f12a9c107a440477153ba147d.camel@freebsd.org>

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On June 19, 2019 9:53:12 AM PDT, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd=2Eorg> wrote:
>On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 09:30 -0700, Rodney W=2E Grimes wrote:
>> > In message <
>> > fffbe5d47e3515c960429ab416bf2ba234f9671d=2Ecamel@freebsd=2Eorg>
>> > , Ian Le
>> > pore writes:
>> > > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 07:01 -0700, Enji Cooper wrote:
>> > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:59, Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail=2Ecom
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:53, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd=2Eorg>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > =2E=2E=2E
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > > Last Saturday, Bryan (cc'd) made a series of commits
>> > > > > > (r349061-69)=20
>> > > > > > that
>> > > > > > were all somehow related to dependency processing in the
>> > > > > > build=2E  I
>> > > > > > don't know the details, just remember seeing some commits
>> > > > > > about
>> > > > > > that=2E
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > I remember that as well=2E This might have changed the
>> > > > > dependency
>> > > > > order subtly, introducing a race=2E
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > The headers might not be built in all cases in time now=2E
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > -Enji
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > PS This is one of the reasons why I wasn???t quick to
>> > > > > discount Peter
>> > > > > Jeremy???s reported build issue=2E
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Correction: I meant Julian Stacey=2E
>> > >=20
>> > > Julian Stacey has 3 problems:
>> > >=20
>> > >  1=2E Missing opt_cam=2Eh
>> > >  2=2E Missing yacc=2Eh
>> > >  3=2E A years-long inability to report a problem without hurling
>> > > personal
>> > > insults at the project and everyone associated with it=2E
>> > >=20
>> > > Because of #3, I don't much care about 1 and 2=2E
>> >=20
>> > Bingo! My point exactly!
>>=20
>> You can't understand the frustration of 25 years of
>> having system build breakage on a pretty regular basis
>> as a trigger point for anger?
>>=20
>
>I understand how inappropriate it is for a project member to condone or
>excuse the verbal abuse of other project members=2E
>
>Somone with anger management problems likely shouldn't be running
>current, where a certain amount of short-term breakage is normal and
>expected=2E
>
>-- Ian

I do not think what you said was abusive=2E As a matter of fact you said w=
hat I had said in a previous email, just more directly than I chose to say =
it=2E

Having to deal with a difficult person or two in real life personally, som=
etimes the only answer is "do it yourself=2E"

A little respect goes a long way=2E


--=20
Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use=2E
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy=2ESchubert@cschubert=2Ecom>
FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD=2Eorg> Web: http://www=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg

	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few=2E



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